Josh, besides the fact that Darton delivered a superb product, you have really hit your stride on the bow reviews. This is arguably the best bow review on RU-vid. It really looks like you've worked things out and your confidence in your presentation shows. Well done brother 👏👏👏
New bow season is here! One of the best times of the year. Darton came out swinging! Great looking bow. No E clips, new tuning features. Good stuff for sure.
A lot of people forget that Darton’s technology is in almost everybody everywhere. They were definitely some innovators back in the day. They hold patents on all kinds of stuff.
Thank you for the video, i was leaning towards a new Lift. Darton wasn't even a manufacturer i was considering, but now.... it definitely is, and i need to find a shop that carries them.
That’s a great bow packed with features. I like that Darton is honest I wish I had a dealer close by. I absolutely love how you do everything possible to deal with the hater’s.
Loving the look of this bow and so good to see someone posting realistic speeds. Love the tune ability of this bow but MFJJ for your question about what else for tuneability i belive Wheeling, timing, draw length, and letoff should be counted for tunabilaty
Great review, about the only commentary I thought was lacking was how well balanced the bow felt. If the bow is 5 lbs, but all you need is the stubby stabilizer to compensate for a typical bowsight because the bow is bottom-heavy, that alleviates some of the weight concern for me because one does not need to add a lot of additional stabilizer weight. I also like the rigor of the new rating system--extremely challenging for a bow to exceed 75 on a 100 point scale. And also degrees of magnitude more discriminating than anything Lancaster has ever produced. With Lancaster, it's as if they are afraid to say ANYTHING negative. Every change by every manufacturer is GREAT, so it's hard to discern which bows really stand out from watching a Lancaster review. But that tuning system that Darton came out with this year truly looks special.
I wonder how long it will be till Darton is mysteriously selling gazillions of replacement parts of those string tuner adjusters, all you need is a set of those, and a custom length cable set……would work best for the duel payout binary like Darton uses, or a Mathews system, but could work for ALMOST any bow, could maybe even do it on a straight cable binary, you may just need a short cable with an extra big loop …..Hmmmm
@@benjamins7799 maybe make the connection point on the do-dad between the cable and the yoke adjustable left/right. This will distribute the pressure on the yoke sides asymmetrically yielding the same effect as lengthening/shortening a side of the yoke.... ....I think.
@@benjamins7799 you don’t need to cam lean adjust that’s the point on the bolt for the limbs it’s how limbs are designed so it’s the correct way to adjust “ cam lean”
@@FURFEELINGS_3 Yep, and it’s a great idea. I was referring to the possibility of adding cam lean adjustment to a Mathews or any other bow with this type of yoke system as a separate piece or kit that can be added on as @renurenovations||c7780 was describing.
Have you had a chance to mess with tuning the bow? Have heard some say the tuning of the bow is not as easy as it seems. Could the amount of tunability be an issue?
I really love all the content that you and Dan put out because it never seems like y'all have a bias on any product. On that note is there a way you can you do a video explaining how different heights of arrow vanes can affect the arrow flight especially with broadheads? I am completely lost on this thought process.
Great looking bow! Did you mention the price? Think that going to be a major factor for it . If it's to close of the major brands.. don't think.iy will sell off as well as it should...
All Darton needs now is to lengthen the limb pocket bolt to release pressure enough to just remove the string and cables. Been done before and would be nice to see again.
I’ve had my eyes on Darton since your “budget bow” video with the consequence and I’m leaning more and more towards giving them a shot. They think a little outside of the box and so far it sounds like they are very well liked and shoot great. I as an amateur bow hunter appreciate everything y’all do and look forward to more great quality reviews and videos brother. Now I need to get a mow hawk just sayin
Having watched another video with the owner on it I would buy it if I were in the market for a new bow. A stand up great guy with a great relationship with the lord. I like Mathews but my guess is this company is going over take some of the other brands.
I love nirvana to. Love da show. The fact that I don’t need a bow press. Imma get a darton just because of that. But I’m keeping my Hoyt and pse. And your definitely right about somebody try to make that adjustment system. You don’t need a bow press. F- - kin awesome
Definitely nirvana shirt, awesome bow,first time i seen the tuning feature on cables i thought that will help guys without a press i want one and ive got a press.
Props to Darton for shipping a bow that matched advertised specs on weight and speed without having to unbolt anything or cheat on to get the numbers. I’ll be looking for a Darton dealer near me to try one of these.
I've shot darton bows for 22 year there's been some really goods one and some have just garbage. One thing they all have had is speed but physical weight has gone up I think to help quiet them some. This down looks really good may have to up grade my spectra e
This looks like a great bow and I am thinking that longer ATA hunting bows are going to become more common this year and beyond. I bought an SX80 this year and absolutely love it, best bow I have personally shot. This looks like a very comparable bow with all specs that would also make it a perfect western hunting rig. Also great to see new tuning features that can compete with the Bowtech's.
Regarding decibal reading i the videos, i think a blanket on the other side on the door from the decibel reader would help. The soundwaves will the hit glass and make noice when you hit the target. Just an idea.
I shot Darton back around the time of the Allegiance from Bowtech. They were smoother, easy shooting bows then. Then... they kind of fell off for awhile imo. After seeing this, I think Darton has snuck in to the top dog category of bow manufacturers (which I'm happy about, they don't market like others and nor do they need to owning the patents they do) and I'm thinking this might be the bow of choice this off-season... We will see what PSE and Matthew's do. Bear made a banger in the Persist (it's heavy too) but this Darton has surpassed that. The only thing holding me back is the overall weight, I'm not sure I'm to thrilled to pack this bow around for 100kms + chasing elk.... great review.
I really like your content and reviews, but I see those more like a "First look", I think it would be good to have a "Review" with it fully built and tested on the course! It would add to the tuning, forgiving, balance part of thing
Darton coming out absolutely swinging for 2025. Hoyt, PSE, and Mathews better step it up. Bowtech, Elite, and now Darton have press less tuning available on their flagship models. That is HUGE.
Am I missing something? He keeps saying how heavy the bow is. The 33 lift is 4.25 lbs. Mfjj said there’s stuff that’s 3/4 lbs lighter on the market. Other than a carbon bow is there one at 35 ata?
Can you make a video on tap( titanium archery products), there’s upgrades for the pse Mach 30, hopefully you can review them to see if they’re worth it
TOOL!! Also Darron has been being innovative since the 80s. They designed and leased all the technologies for compound bows and invented to 1.5 binary cam system. They deserve more recognition
Being a guy that sucks with a compound. Meaning I shoot my longbow better at 30 and in. I really like this bow especially the tuning aspect to it. I looks grate good to see the numbers sum what match as advertised I think that is important with the archery industry. Now fro the most important question Nirvana never really got into tool. Grate video
Instead of talking during the sound measurement, you can hold up a whiteboard with the data on it so you have it for when you edit as well as we can see what it is without you having to talk
SPL (sound pressure level) doubles every 3dB. Although an increase of 3 dB represents a doubling of the sound pressure, an increase of about 10 dB is required before the sound subjectively appears to be twice as loud. The smallest change we can hear is about 3 dB. The subjective or perceived loudness of a sound is determined by several complex factors.
@@arlanflaming That applies to all animals with a cochlea in their inner ear (including deer). That means that sound is perceived in a logarithmic scale, albeit in different frequency ranges.
Just the "Loadout point" doesn't say much about the string angle at your face without also knowing the distance of that "line" it makes to the grip (or from the point to the axle, we can for the sake of simplicity probably ignore the travel fore and aft of the axle going from brace to full draw, from there on, you can add brace to the equation). Plus where the grip is in relation to the axles affects string angle at face. I'm sure a similar load out point will feel different from a Darton (for example) to specifically a Prime because of where exactly the grip is. Not sure how all other (non Prime) brands compare, but I think they're close.
Darton wasn't really the first to come out with an independent limb adjustment. The PSE Moneymaker had complete individual limb adjustments with a limb bolt for each limb. But PSE did not continue this practice after the Moneymaker. That's a good idea for the cam timing. Being able to twist and untwist cables without a press is a good idea. I'm looking forward to them getting away from the caged riser like most of the other brands have done. I don't care for the extra width.
Darton has come up with thousands of things years ago and has made money from other companies for years, are you sure it was a PSE patent. Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech Elite and PSE have used Darton patents over the years, Darton has made a ton of money that way.
The fascination with putting stuff on the bow that can move is beyond me…invest in a bow press if you’re serious about archery. Mathews tophats and Pse ez220 are EASILY the most rock solid systems out there that are simple to work with. Give me less moving parts any day.
Am I missing something? Bowtech has already created a bow to be completely tuned without a press, adjust timing without twisting cables , did the folds of honor thing. Elite tuning with moving the limb pockets… not taking anything away from Darton because the bow is sweet and not claiming they copied any tech but why is MFJJ acting like this is something completely different? I know it’s done differently but the end goals have already been done
I think the only thing i disagree with is the conment about the weight. There are bows that are 33 and 34 ATA, that are the same or heavier than the darton at 35 inches. Plus the darton riser is libger than the other companies. Alpha x 33 is 4.75 lb at 33 ATA PSE evolve 33 is 4.6 at ATA Bowtech core series are 4.5 and 4.6 at 33 ATA.
