New Amazon Echo 4th gen is a Trojan Horse Smart Home Hub

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The new Amazon Echo 4th gen is louder, rounder, and has a built-in Zigbee hub. In this video, I tested the speaker and connected several devices to it. I’ll go over some important things you need to know before replacing your hub with this.
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0:29 Design
1:16 Speakers
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4:07 Is it a true Zigbee hub?
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@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

If Alexa routines were more advanced, could you use this as your main hub?

@tjark_am_start 3 года назад

I dont think so. Im unsure if i should buy smartthings

@TAKV_gaming 3 года назад

Not everything works with Alexa. I personally think unless you can attach something like Home Assistant to it I don’t think Alexa will ever be a hub.

@KTibow 3 года назад

I'd use Home Assistant as my automation platform, but Alexa as the hub.

@andrewcbartlett 3 года назад

Not really because the status of devices is real time in smartthings, the alexa app is rather poor.

@mayanktiku9900 3 года назад

@@KTibow how do you do that. That's the only thing holding me back from buying it

@andyjame9687 11 месяцев назад

like the features, setup was difficult for some of my devices (August Door lock, ru-vid.comUgkxhB5YOMNj04GuoAosExygP4cH-dKeb4aB Bose speaker)... but all switches and outlets (5), thermostat, tankless water heater. Unfortunately all I can do is turn on/off Bose. It doesn't support volume or changing channels, but I believe that is due to the particular speaker I have.... Worth getting if you already have other devices to use it with... I don't sit around and ask Alexa questions much so that doesn't really matter to me....

@WB3CAI День назад

Just got Smartbot temperature sensors and considering Sonoff Zigbee sensors. Amazon Prime Day should result in a ton of new Zigbee enabled Echo devices. I think I have over 50 items sending RF around the house.

@texasatrox 3 года назад

"Ohhh the Zigbee!"

@SnowyPe 3 года назад

Always good quality information..Thanks

@AutomateYourLife 3 года назад

Great review sir! Like the talks on the ZigBee and Sidewalk protocols.

@granther8693 3 года назад

This guy is literally so cool, he just does smart home stuff and that’s all, keep up the good work, I like that your not trying to be anything else like other you tubers

@MrNutzzzzzz 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing. Great video.

@johnmiller5630 3 года назад

Another great informative video. 👏🏻

@Nasty00B 3 года назад

What I like about the old Amazon Echo puck is the possibility to place a funko pop on top :)

@devinhedge 3 года назад

This.

@GadgetGekko 3 года назад

Lots of good info here! The sound of the Echo sounded quite a bit better.

@alichehab5804 2 года назад

nice

@mrtony1985 2 года назад

You're my new favorite sub. Thanks for all your videos and the wonderful / hilarious content.

@androidfarmer8863 3 года назад

Sidewalk: it’s opt-in?

@MSFTSTRIO 3 года назад

I gave away my Echo plus and got a HomePod, using shortcuts also lets me not need ifttt for complex routines.

@Doggieman1111 3 года назад

5:54 "It's supposed to be really secure." Famous last words.

@VincentZebraitis Год назад

Just bought one, Black Friday, for $45, to function as my ZigBee hub to manage motorized shades from Smartwings. This saved me thousands compared to the same vial Lutron Serina. The price was definitely right!

@oliversmith7354 3 года назад

The 4th gen echo devices look really cool as well. Mediatek has done a good job powering them

@FaisalAlGhamdi 3 года назад

Hey Reed, Can you please make a video talking about best ways to automate a bedroom with the google assistant or the apple homekit. this would be REALLY helpful.

@ein57ein 3 года назад

The hub aspect was the bit that ALMOST made me jump for it. I've paid the "early-adopter-tax" before and now I'm a touch more cautious. I'm sure they'll sort compatibility and automations out. My 2d gen dots are begging to be upgraded (as soon as I find a way to re-purpose them too). I'm really excited for it, and with Zigbee the possibility of fast, local control exists. I saw another video where it was hard to watch the delay and it reminded me of the Wyze Band and that was really disappointing BUT, it is an early unit and will hopefully get better.

@MakeMoneyGuide 3 года назад

Awesome stuff! New subscriber here!

@025Bar 3 года назад

Echo sounds bigger and with way more bass than the new dot. But it's really bad at picking up my voice. Even when I'm being loud. My gen 3 dots pick me up way better from further away.

@BeardedTechGuy 3 года назад

Not sure why, but this thing just gives off Death Star vibes lol

@jonbarwick5946 3 года назад

Disney take notes! I smell a special edition

@BeardedTechGuy 3 года назад

@@jonbarwick5946 hahaha!

@TechWithBrett 3 года назад

It's great to hear your thoughts about the Zigbee hub. I had similar connection issues which is odd since I hadn't seen those before with the 2nd Gen Echo Show. Your end clips are the best!

@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

Yeah it’s a weird bug that could get fixed with an update. Thanks Brett!

@jaymarcum5764 3 года назад

Probably time for a Christmas light video 😉

@greengoblindave 8 месяцев назад

Hi. So I have connected a few wall light switches easy with the Alexa with the built in hub. And they all work fine. But how would I then install them on to a separate app ?? For example to create scenes with sensors. Or can it all be done through the Alexa app ?? Thanks 👍

@vinhennessy3885 3 года назад

Reed, as a Hub, I’m curious if it can strengthen my connection between Wyze sensor and a Wyze bridge that works sometimes. If it can, I’ll be all over it.

@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 3 года назад

lmfao I swear I asked me echo dot what the temperature is today at the exact same time you did and it freaked me out and had me wondering why my echo was responding through the dot and through the TV. It took me a second to realize you had asked it the same question because I wasnt paying much attention to the video at the time.

@IcidLink 3 года назад

I still have the echo Dot 2gen and listening Music with him it’s connected via Bluetooth with my Hi-Fi

@veritas932 3 года назад

that will provide even better sound than the Echo 4th gen

@jaycampbell2706 3 года назад

I wonder if a connection can be made between the spherical shape and the Amazon Spheres in Seattle or if it was purely a functional move to get better sound.

@PrydeWater901 3 года назад

I find it odd that Amazon made this Echo a concealed Zigbee hub and didn’t also include ZWave as that is the system that Ring, an Amazon entity, uses.

@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

It is odd isn’t it. Possibly cost around licensing. I don’t know all the details about the Z-Wave Alliance and how it all works for businesses.

@curtisbme 3 года назад

About control. With Zwave, it is tightly controlled and they have to buy the radios from Zwave. Amazon doesn't have any direct control over it. Zigbee isn't controlled in the same way, just a standard, and they can make their own hardware and do more proprietary things with them. Lack of control here is why there is often more capability issues with zigbee. Ring had already developed their alarm Zwave before Amazon bought them. Interestingly, the alarm base station is said to have a zigbee radio but apparently isn't turned on.

@rafaelabadia2583 2 года назад

I ordered it. I need suggestions

@ypark2877 Год назад

Yolink also goes a long range. And they already work without going into a sidewalk platform. Able to use echo to make yolink announcements also. The yolink speaker hub also announces.

@r2driveclubinc957 3 года назад

So how do we use the smart hub with other things? im trying to connect my gosund switches to free up router bandwith but cant seem to figure out how

@loudlouder7729 6 месяцев назад

Any idea how to query the zigbee channel used by the Echo 4 zigbee hub? Is this chosen dynamically by the Echo or is it fixed and the same with every Echo 4?

@vinhennessy3885 3 года назад

Can it work with with Wyze? I’m ready to buy and send out Christmas gifts

@josephewing3738 2 года назад

I hate Alexa. But I need zigbee and love the blink cams. Ugh.

@alldoers6195 3 года назад

Hi I follow every video of yours Love from India It will mean the world to me if u answer this I have an iPhone XS Max but it’s not always at home can I write nfc tags from it and then use them with my iPhone 8 which I always have with me Pls ans

@a.w.b.9971 3 года назад

So if i was to get Sengled bulbs, do you recommend I just use the zigbee hub in the Echo? Or get the sengled smart hub?

@williampennjr.4448 3 года назад

can you do a video on how to return a home assistant?. Is there anything to delete? Will everything I programmed on the app still work on a replacement device?

@cupcake_gaming8067 3 года назад

Amazing video your such a great RU-vidR keep up the Spectacular work!

@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

Thanks Ben I appreciate it!

@sapier 3 года назад

Should I be concerned about buying Zigbee devices right now with Amazon and others working on CHIP to replace it?

@carloslewis5723 3 года назад

You should do a video on air purifiers

@MarcusChristopher 3 года назад

Nice! I started a channel focused on building voice technology into your business!

@Loveally1000 2 года назад

I just want something to run my lights and a few plugs... would this work

@macinman 3 года назад

Hey, would you consider this a worth while upgrade to someone (such as me) who already has an Echo Plus 2nd Generation, and an Echo studio? I know I could upgrade the Echo plus to this and keep the temperature sensor, and hub, in one unit, but would it be worth it? and would I gain anything. Thanks

@1tzL1vvy 3 года назад

will the "side-walk" feature be availbale on echo-dot?

@userinfo2869 3 года назад

Can you please tell me can this echo device run a 3rd party tuya compatible app for me and eg all my wifi smart bulbs connect directly to that and not crowd up my wifi network etc and also operate if the internet connect was down? i want a hub that can keep my home network more isolate from my smart bulbs etc thanks in advance and love the videos !!!! :)

@codadz9437 3 года назад

I need something like zigbee wach to use it as schedule source for automation offline ..... 😕is it Amazon echo have this option or any solution please ???? Thank's for every thinks

@toni-ss3gc 3 года назад

Can you use homepod as hub with out with out internet (locali)

@ComicPreviews 3 года назад

Do you have any news on google discontinuing the nest secure?

@sunnylad878 3 года назад

Hey Reed, random question but would you recommend the Samsung connect home pro?

@helloim3j 3 года назад

Is the Zigbee hub really a plus when the Connected Home Over IP standard is still at least several months away from being published, never mind that hardware containing the standard is even further out?

@LaloLPGMER 3 года назад

Question, the led circle on mine got lower how can I change it back to the original strong glow?

@marcomoraschi3537 Год назад

Does anyone knows if there is a wireless button (bettery powered not inwall) that's working with echo gen4?

@opiatesmile 3 года назад

So I am reading that this could let you use your Hue bulbs without your Hue hub. Do you know if this is true and, if so, how many bulbs/lights could it support? I am up to 2 Hue hubs right now and would love to get one of these Echoes if I can phase out 2 other hubs.

@DrummerJimforLife 2 года назад

Hey I have a question, I have Alexa dart and I just want to know with this fourth generation echo does it have a belt and recorder camera? And also how is the quality using this when if you do record? Because when I had my eye vision I was always using video editor to sync the music into my timeline which I can’t do that anymore so I’m just wondering does this have like a belt in the camera so we can actually record for you I lost my eyesight back in 2018 and has the mic and how many miles does it have i’m using my voice over from my iPhone and it messes up sometimes so if my words don’t make sense it’s my voiceover. Thanks

@frankyu553 3 года назад

"Even work with your neighbour's sidewalk bridges to make a massive mesh system." I'm calling it. Amazon Sidewalk is the start of Skynet haha

@Funloverjef 3 года назад

yep...Amazon, giving hackers within an estimated half-mile radius to your network.

@vincentgranville964 3 года назад

I'm having real trouble with my Philips Hue bulbs. It just won't discover them at all despite making them discoverable, turning bulb off for 10 seconds and back on. Moving echo 4 closer to the bulb etc. Echo dot 4 is fine detecting them on Bluetooth. Crazy.

@gdiehl8801 2 года назад

Are you aware of any water leak sensors that work with the Echo hub? The link below doesn't list one.

@mjq1602 3 года назад

Just bought the echo 4th Gen. It came with a hue bulb so I thought I'd buy a sonoff sensor and connect it so the light would go on and off by itself. However, I am completely at a loss as to how to do this. I downloaded the eWelink app but it doesn't recognise any devices. Am I supposed to add the echo as a device then the motion sensor. If so how? If anyone can help us be very grateful.

@aliusblacksmith 2 года назад

Hello, i have question.. Imrotant for me.. Can i use echo 4 hub for philips hue like philips hue bridge ? i own two philips hue bulbs and Philips tv abilight, so a need connect my bulbs to TV and expans ambilight,,so can i use echo insted hue bridge to make this work? thx very much

@neekster28 3 года назад

Everyone is trying to get in on that $100 price point. Echo, HomePod Mini, Nest Audio

@sparklander 3 года назад

I am attempting to connect this Echo 4 (hub) to my Schlage electronic door lock. Alexa says it is connected, but always tells me there is a problem with the lock. The lock works fine with my ring alarm app. I am assuming the problem is really Alexa. Hard to find much info on the web concerning this.

@murilinz3997 3 года назад

The best

@donttrustgoogle5963 3 года назад

I have two of these and they have been a pain. Drops off my network, are slow, and the Zigbee hub won’t hold the two lights that came with them. I’ve spent hours with Tech Support and they still screw up.

@richburmond6761 2 года назад

Do the ikea buttons work now?

@sadnessinside123 3 года назад

Always enjoy your videos. Thurough a informative. Thank you.

@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

I’m glad you like them! I appreciate the support!

@nishankumar2244 3 года назад

This is lit 🔥 I pre-ordered one.

@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 3 года назад

I preordered a pair of them... My biggest complaint is the fact that you cant pair two echos together and then pair those echos to a computer or non firetv in stereo mode. I still got a pair of them for my firestick since I can just watch my movies from there via plex. Then when I need to I can just connect one speaker to my laptop which it sucks that I cant use both but it is what it is.

@beckym8245 2 года назад

Any improvements in Amazon Routines since you released this video?

@ggjflyguy 2 года назад

im looking at this to replace my Wink hub, its on its second time down for over 2 weeks now and the people at wink have no idea when it will be back up. so do you think this would be a good replacement?

@emmalawson1504 2 года назад

It’s now mid January 2022 … the last week I have tried to add several zigbee items to my echo 4th gen which I also bought in the last week. NONE of them connected. I tried to connect each item over 40 times! Extremely frustrating and time consuming for absolutely nothing. I deliberately chose the echo because of the internal zigbee. Seriously thinking of returning the echo 4th gen and just sticking to sengled light bulbs, my plug sockets and my 3rd gen dot. I wanted to do a fair bit more, but can’t see it without spending an absolute fortune, which Alexa echo 4th gen makes out is possible.

@bre4472 2 года назад

Can Tuya zigbee devices be connected to the zigbee hub within the echo dot? Or would I have to get the Tuya hub?

@UkBigSteveo 3 года назад

but ill never use the Zigbee hud why i got the new small one

@gdcamargo 3 года назад

There are some people, specially in Brazil, complaining about the mics of the Echo. They are saying it is terrible, worst then echo dot 3. Is it good to you? Is it like Echo 3rd? Thanks in advance!

@jephindavis7216 3 года назад

Cons of Alexa : 1. Custom actions will only run last 2. Cannot check if a device is on and base actions on that

@williambaldwin9346 3 года назад

Okay, so to be clear, this is replacing the tall Echo pro?

@surajgharpankar1042 3 года назад

Does echo dot 4th gen has also builtin Zigbee Hub ?

@BookTube0ne 3 года назад

I got my 4th gen Dot today, but noticed when adding it to announce in a routine that it was grayed out , any way I can fix this? It announces when I select all devices but not individually help

@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

I noticed that too on mine. Must be some issue with the new devices since I checked that my settings were right. At least I think they are. It’s annoying either way but I’m sure it will be fixed soon.

@berylwhite2983 3 года назад

I haven't bought anytime yet ... I don't know what's wrong with me I buy Amazon by the truckload every year you have calculator. I just don't know I don't know if it's a shape or if I'm getting old or what or if is the shape of the world right now. Still great review catch you later

@nickvas19 Год назад

I asked many times in many forums ...but still I didn't take answer. I have echo dot 4gth gen. Do I need Zigbee hub? if yes then must be the same company with my device?! I have tradfi getaway and tradfi on off button.....I can't figure it out with Alexa. do you ?! Alexa can't find any ikea item

@dmitrijza1124 3 года назад

Can I connect it with aqara zigbee door sensor ?

@davidwp5761 3 года назад

When I connected echo to my smart tv firestick, it switched the sound output to the echo from tv. Not wanted.

@jonathansantana5 3 года назад

Please do a review for the net eero 6. They say it include a hub as well. Do you think is worth to upgrade mi wife signal and have a Hub all in one. Hello from Dominican Republic

@jonathansantana5 3 года назад

I forget to tell you that I love your video. You help me a lot. Because in spanish there is not a lot of information. You Rock and I love your jokes.

@SmartHomeSolver 3 года назад

I appreciate it Jonathan! I can look at doing a review of the eero 6, thanks for the suggestion!

@ronm6585 3 года назад

Thank you Reed.

@jonwaters5278 3 года назад

Will it work with my old hub

@jacobbarnhart3992 3 года назад

Hey, man. Wondering if you could help me solve my problem since youseem to be a genius in all this. Lol. I'm building an office outside of my house and with the weather as cold as it is, I want my office heated up by the time I head out there each morning. I'm planning to get a ductless mini-split to heat it, but don't see any way to start it from my house. Any suggestions?

@h27764 3 года назад

Still will chose HomePod over echo dot

@ChambS7Nmedia 3 года назад

I wonder being as these have a Bluetooth low energy hub inside will they be able to control a switchbot bot ?

@ahmadalhaleeb5492 3 года назад

Nice جميل

@MSFTSTRIO 3 года назад

Why’d they put a zigbee hub of they’re switching to CHIP?

@vinhennessy3885 3 года назад

If Amazon added as Zigbee, ZWave and WiFi protocols in their devices and integrate with Samsung, that would be a game changer. Presently, I’m a Google fan, but they are getting too invasive.

@glowingeddy 3 года назад

So basicly a homey with a decent speaker?

@Bremend 2 года назад

You should compare again now, Amazon collects more data than Google these days

@unboxings5218 3 года назад

Are the sound quality the same?? It’s just louder and more bass?

@BruhMan_5 3 года назад

The lack of Z-Wave is annoying because now I have to have a whole separate hub just for those devices.

@membear 3 года назад

You should have let us know who many watts each speaker has.

@kevinmitchell4960 2 года назад

Is the speaker much better then the cheaper version of the 4th gen?

@MihirMandavia 3 года назад

This guy can literally do anything...

@b16crxt 2 года назад

So, only the larger, regular echo has the zigbee hub? That kinda sucks. Was really hoping the clock version of the dot had it too.

@diy_cat9817 2 года назад

I had no idea that Echo and Echo Dot were two different things 😤 Well, I did but I thought the Dot was the short, cylindrical device. I've been over here ripping my hair out trying to get a stupid DOOR SENSOR to hook up to my "4th Gen Echo" BECAUSE APPARENTLY ITS NOT AN ECHO AFTER ALL 😤