New Aqueous Zinc Battery Breakthrough - Real Deal or Hype?

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This is the decade of the battery, it's why there's so much researching going into all sorts of different kinds. One key metric has always been charge speed. To enable electric city buses and big tractors, we need batteries that can charge as fast as possible, and well there's a new kid on the block. The Aqueous Zinc Vanadium Battery, and its actually closer to production than you might think! It has some key benefits, and some drawbacks, so let's figure it out together!
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0:00 - Introduction
1:40 - How it works
3:30 - Practicality
5:00 - The Breakthrough!
7:30 - Characteristics
11:20 - Supply Chains
12:27 - Drawbacks
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@TwoBitDaVinci 4 месяца назад

Check out the Amazing Larq Swig Top Bottle & Filter Straw Today!! bylarq.com/twobit3

@psylinx 4 месяца назад

What do you think of ampx? I myself put in 3000 and I'm hoping give me a return on my investment. In fact, I think I'm the guy who turned you on to them. George Davis

@donbrutcher4501 4 месяца назад

Will it keep beer from going flat?

@Jcewazhere 4 месяца назад

It'd be neat if they could recycle all the pennies and use the zinc in them to make the new batteries; and stop making new pennies.

@captvaghunter 4 месяца назад

I call bullshit until I can put one in my sailboat

@TPTHM 4 месяца назад

Your sponsor is more than likely lying about being able to filter out pfas! But if they're not, I know several government bodies that would love to talk to them. I think they would be the first in the entire world. I think you should do a video about pfas. Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA), Perfluorooctyl Sulfonate (PFOS) and Other Perfluorinated Chemicals

@troysright 4 месяца назад

I'll believe it when it's in a actual device.

@Garuthius 4 месяца назад

Even if they get around the dendrite formation issues, I don't think you will ever be seeing these types of batteries in any kind of devices or mobile applications, Because of the weight and size issue they are optimally suited for large scale Grid-Level storage or for Home Power / Powerwall applications.

@wallyxu9467 4 месяца назад

Actually weight means very little when the battery is small enough. Zinc is perfect for things like rechargeable AA, AAA, C or D cell batteries

@lbeezy3059 4 месяца назад

Frfr Every other month they got a new miracle battery smh

@PhantomPanic 4 месяца назад

So sick of all the hyping up of things like concept cars and magical batteries. And it's people like this guy that keeps the hype going.

@Israel_Two_Bit 4 месяца назад

@@wallyxu9467 in the case of standard-sized cells like AA, AAA, C or D batteries, weight isn't so much the issue as is energy density (as in "volumetric" energy density, not specific energy). Since you're limited to a specific size and shape, you can only fit in so much energy. Commercial alkaline batteries have energy densities of 120-270 Wh L−1. At 400-500 Wh/kg the aqueous Zn/NZVO battery has an energy density roughly in the same ballpark. So, in theory, you could make AA and AAA batteries of the same size and capacity as an alkaline Duracell, only rechargeable.

@Ryan-ff2db 4 месяца назад

I think Zinc batteries are the future... as are Lithium, Sodium, Vanadium, high pressure Hydrogen, flow batteries etc... Each chemistry has it's own characteristics and it's own uses.

@dianapennepacker6854 4 месяца назад

At first I thought it would be like a capacitor with density. It isn't. Could've been good for buses. Charging at stops as it goes. Yet charging fast kills the battery. Salients battery makes no sense. It is only 30% cheaper at 1/4th the density. So wouldn't just buying less lithium ion be cheaper? Makes no sense why people would go for the salient...

@teardowndan5364 4 месяца назад

For affordable, sustainable large-scale storage, anything that requires rare elements is a non-starter IMO. Hydrogen may sound nice in theory but causes far too many problems in practice. I doubt it'll see much use besides energy-dumping for excess renewables. The smarter way to handle energy-dumping would be grid-aware EV charging infrastructure, then you can have hundreds of GWh worth of self-depleting storage to dump excess into if enough people sign up for and plug into grid-dependent charging speeds and billing rates.

@Ryan-ff2db 4 месяца назад

@@teardowndan5364 Grid-aware charging is easier said than done, and certainly not without it's drawbacks. That being said it will likely be part of an overall scheme which will include many storage solutions, some of which will not be batteries. There's been some interesting developments in Hydrogen storage that requires zero rare earths and no platinum and is already in use at a mid-size scale. We will see whether it can scale at cost but in theory it could. Than again, this is true with many battery chemistries that in theory should scale but often don't for one reason or another.

@ricnyc2759 4 месяца назад

If Zinc was the future the Chinese would be already doing something with them. "Developers in Japan, China and Europe are working to solve some of the problems with zinc batteries, which are prone to rapid loss of function after repeated charging cycles." (Nikkei Asia, November 26, 2023).

@teardowndan5364 4 месяца назад

@@Ryan-ff2db Grid-aware charging would be quite simple to implement in areas where utility companies already have mesh-networked meter read-outs: simply use the same mesh network to publish how much spare capacity is available in a given area and let EVSE/cars with the necessary $5 modem act accordingly. The expensive part is doing it later: doing it now would add ~$5 to new EVSEs, doing it later will mean replacing heaps $300-2000 EVSEs.

@theirisheditor 4 месяца назад

The low 1.3V nominal voltage is a good drop-in replacement for Ni-MH and disposable AA and AAA batteries, especially with the voltage being closer to 1.5V than Ni-MH. This means they could be mass produced for existing AA / AAA powered consumer electronics, unlike other new battery chemistries that use very different voltage ranges to existing disposable and rechargeable batteries.

@daveh6356 4 месяца назад

And that kind of application/potential market would be an awesome, immediate commercial driver for more zinc innovation. That's huge, well-spotted.

@christopherleubner6633 2 месяца назад

Yup that would be a good use case, especially for current hungy gadgets.

@ariisaac5111 4 месяца назад

Hey two bit, I absolutely love your balanced engineering analysis of potentially viable battery solutions to displace lithium ion. Please keep it up, as this is one big reason I left to follow you, your your detailed coverage of energy issues and solutions.

@evanriddle1614 4 месяца назад

Zinc will always be in the game and I would guess it will run in the top 5 chemistries but not likely #1. Thanks. Very informative and well presented as always.

@xnavyro 4 месяца назад

Dude, I love your videos, being an engineer, I’m hooked on energy storage! Keep up the great work, Bravo 👏🏻

@Failure_Is_An_Option 4 месяца назад

You call me dude you wouldn't be an employee of mine for long. Especially clowns that use emojis.

@kevinroberts781 4 месяца назад

Thanks for keeping it real. Right now nothing can touch lithium iron phosphate. I honestly don't see zink or sodium getting close anytime soon.

@functionalvanconversion4284 4 месяца назад

These batteries are gamechanger, let's do it:) Sweet bottle, finally worth upgrading my 20 year stainless steel waterbottle.

@LordSaliss 4 месяца назад

Dentrite forming has been the major hurdle of solid state lithium batteries as well. They have learned a lot more about those and are finally moving past that issue, so hopefully most of that knowledge can be transfered to the dendrite growth in these Zinc batteries as well.

@paraax 4 месяца назад

True, but I find it dishonest to say the number of cycles is huge when dendrite formation is one of the huge limitations in lithium batteries. How can you just ignore that in the cycle life?

@christopherleubner6633 2 месяца назад

Simply giving it a strong current pulses as part of the charging circuit will fix the dendritic issue, they used this technique for old school NiCd batteries to stop dendritic growth of cadmium.

@daily_dose_of_flying 4 месяца назад

that's the kind of battery I need. I'm tired all the time

@Xero1of1 4 месяца назад

16:58 Super caps. Balance those with resistance so that you can charge the super caps at whatever rate you want, but the super caps will only discharge at the rate you need.

@PS-Straya_M8 4 месяца назад

BBC had a podcast series several years back called Elements. One episode was about the Vanadium battery, can't believe that this is not in widespread use by businesses as it provides almost limitless energy

@narvuntien 4 месяца назад

Hey Ricky great video I am still not convinced that anything other lithium will be used constantly for mobile applications but stationary storage is wide open. NMC is probably dead in the long term but I am still a LFP stan. I feel like this might be one of the best for home storage, while sodium batteries might be best for the grid storage with its very abundant materials. Then we have the even bigger flow batteries.

@jaimeortega4940 4 месяца назад

Agreed good idea to be experimenting with different battery chemistries, materials and techniques such as dealing with the dendrite issues.

@skyrangerbob 4 месяца назад

Another advantage of aqueous and air batteries is that the molecular motion of the medium tends to erode dendrites before they become dangerous. An example is tin solder in air versus vacuum. In vacuum tin forms dendrites, but not in air. The high electric field around dendrites causes breakdown that results in the fire.

@lnwolf41 4 месяца назад

I like the tag line, one of the most accurate ones you have used. You provided a lot of good information, without padding it with how does a battery work? My biggest issues with these "break throughs" is no one states how soon mass production will begin, because that is the bottom line. Also more concerned about mass storage over an EV. Overall I enjoyed your video

@Israel_Two_Bit 4 месяца назад

You're right. But with lab results, you usually can't know when something will be production-ready

@perchebevicocazero 4 месяца назад

EOS energy starts mass producing q2 2024

@gleambrite2679 4 месяца назад

Agree. Good point. That's the biggest issue we have, particularly in the U.S. Everything has to go through red tape and mass production to make a profit otherwise, have few investors and technology changes rapidly. After a factory and production is created new and improved possibilities come along but the factory can't change on a dime and investors want paid back with interest. So we are stuck in the past.

@far1ander 4 месяца назад

Forget charging for a moment and consider this: what kind of power source would be able to provide such a huge surge of power???

@DFPercush 2 месяца назад

If we're talking about a cell phone, you plug it into the 120 or 240 wall outlet in your house and it's basically a hair dryer for 30 seconds, in terms of power. The problem is the 450 A of low voltage current that would require.

@stevebrugman3145 4 месяца назад

Excellent presentation lots of new information really a good video

@waynethurecht9441 4 месяца назад

Sounds like another potential power solution. Variety is good as it will ensure competition and this will help to bring the most appropriate technology to each application.

@tacosdecamaron 4 месяца назад

Ricky, thanks for the video. Being a techy myself I enjoy the depth. Would you follow up on other technologies like the v2 of catls sodium ion?

@americanfreedom1777 4 месяца назад

Testing LIPO4 , working great !

@kgamaseg 4 месяца назад

It’s a very interesting video. From what I’ve seen and read, I believe aluminum Graphene or Graphene aluminum batteries are gonna be one of the major players in battery technology.

@warthog733 4 месяца назад

Just wow....this looks like a strong candidate from several angles.

@hightidesed 4 месяца назад

My favorite for grid energy storage is the CO2 energy dome battery, it is fantastic in terms of levelized cost.

@jormungandrtheworldserpent8382 4 месяца назад

i think the most important thing with these new battery types is just to get them to market after all the more something is used the more incentive there is to optimize and innovate

@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735 4 месяца назад

I'll believe it when I see it in action in cars and devices.

@mmmmmmgreg1545 4 месяца назад

EOSE Energy was mentioned briefly but they are worth looking at more. The DOE granted them conditional approval of a 398M loan in August. They are shipping prodcut not with a semi autonomous line and are installing a fully autonomous line in Q1 and Q2 with 3 more lines planned.

@580guru 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the new update on these zinc based batteries but considering their energy density I'm still betting on ESS's iron flow battery for scalable energy storage.

@kenleach1198 4 месяца назад

It going to help batteries progress. Thanks

@wrathdelivery 4 месяца назад

Whichever is best in each use case, the future is clearly bright!

@mintakan003 4 месяца назад

Stationary storage is a good way to try out different chemistries. Though I think the next alternative to lithium, might be sodium ion (e.g. from CATL and BYD). The giga factory manufacturing processes are already quite similar. Sodium ion will probably compete against LFP. Zinc can be the third in line. Though I suspect it will require different manufacturing processes, a slower to ramp up. And for all its weird quirks in charge rate, think of it like computer memory. You have different types, with different characteristics (e.g. DRAM, SRAM, SSD, HD, ...). You can pair Zinc batteries with Lithium stack, to help it bridge some gaps, while bringing in its own advantages.

@kisarunihofmannndosi5327 4 месяца назад

I love your videos! Can you make something like an "Ultimate battery video" for 2023 or 2024, where you compare all the batteries types and f.e. give your estimation which one is most promising? 🔋🔋

@danielbrowniel 4 месяца назад

ideal for remote busy charging stations. If they are going to be large anyway, why not make an anode on a conveyor, make a small portion of the anode periodically go through a refurbishment as zinc has a low melting point. Kind of like an EZ bake oven?

@j.d.4697 4 месяца назад

The best thing about battery research is the near infinite opportunities for profit it offers, but performance-based industry profits, not hype-based consumer profits.

@dwimarpinnock9799 4 месяца назад

Those straight cut gears sounds 🤌

@sombritos 4 месяца назад

Very interesting… i am very skeptical but am excited to hear news like this.

@inigoantony9029 3 месяца назад

Zinc batteries could be the gold standard when it comes to stationary storage. Its volumetric density if harnessed properly could provide safe and low cost grid storage capabilities and power houses sustainably. Its a underrated battery chemistry.

@flavio-p 4 месяца назад

I’m cool with stationary use in conjunction with solar to take strain off the grid.

@aldenconsolver3428 4 месяца назад

It sounds like an interesting chemistry, maybe one that might become widespread. Its use in automobiles looks pretty shaky - But it might work fine in OTR trucks and even ships where a ton more or less really does not matter.

@christopherleubner6633 2 месяца назад

The foot in the door use case would be AAA AA C and D cell replacement. 1.3 ro 1.5v per cell is similar to the Zn MnO2 alkaline battery chemisty. ❤

@patrickmckowen2999 4 месяца назад

Good luck 👍

@Qwertyuiop4409 4 месяца назад

It used to be 1 battery breakthrough every couple years and I had time to fact check the technology behind for feasibility. Now it happens 4 times a year and I have no time to turn into full time scientist. I will embrace one once I can buy it.

@heart4Pahoa 4 месяца назад

Very insightful information. Appreciate the thorough pro/con and unknowns. Definitely watching this tech and the engineering hurdles.

@daveh6356 4 месяца назад

That 'dancing'/propagation sounds like the kind of breakthrough which could also be applied elsewhere. To visualise, I'd have gone with Newton's cradle but I guess the 'dancing' was already in the headline. Looking forward to affordable home battery storage.

@wombatillo 4 месяца назад

It will be complicated for mobile devices that you practically will need at least two cells in series and with two cells in series 3.3V electronics will still need boost converters. A three cell battery gets even more complicated but might be closer to realism for the voltage. Having one battery that will dip as low as 1.0V when at 0% is a problem because most electronics have a really hard time operating at those voltages. A boost converter might need 1.5V to even run its own logic and switching system.

@eddieeddie7715 4 месяца назад

I'M STILL WAITING FOR GRAPHENE BATTERY SINCE 2004!!!KEEP DREAMING BIG!😂😂😂

@peterxyz3541 4 месяца назад

PROGRESS over PERFECTION ❤️. I’ll just be happy for a cheap home storage

@justincase5272 4 месяца назад

Optimal charge rates: Charge it in stages, like a switching power supply, but with much lower frequency, using a much smaller, intermittent and replaceable short-lasting bank of Zn-ion batteries to handle the faster charges: 1) charge the intermediate bank at medium-rate 2) charge the main bank at optimal rate using the intermediate bank 3) repeat until the main bank is fully charged.

@Provocateur3 4 месяца назад

Do Zn batteries compare with Pb (auto) batteries in terms of CCA's? The C-rate seems to imply lots of CCA's. How long will a Zn battery hold its charge? How does the battery reaction degrade at low temperatures?

@alexlabs4858 4 месяца назад

Pretty much every other day we hear about a new battery. When it can actually prove to be mass produced I’ll start getting interested.

@mmmmmmgreg1545 4 месяца назад

Do a quick search on EOS briefly mentioned around 17M. They are building and delivering them at scale.

@MikkoRantalainen 4 месяца назад

Definitely interesting news! However, I fail to understand how the cells could at the same time last 200K cycles with 500 C and have potential dentrite formation? Typically dentrite formation destroys the cell in 50-200 cycles which would be a bit shy of 200K cycles, right?

@steamroller1474 4 месяца назад

Interesting all around. Any alternative to strip mining is good. Let's see where these technologies end up in 5 years. I for one look forward to seeing this leap in battery technologies.

@tomhoulihan1 4 месяца назад

I think this battery technology sounds great, it has some great advantges. Is there a concern with the aqueous electrolyte freezing if its temperature drops too low?

@Israel_Two_Bit 4 месяца назад

That's a very good question. Of course, that would be a risk with any electrolyte other than solid electrolytes, but more concerning for aqueous electrolytes since it's melting point would be closer to 0°C. That could destroy the cell if the design doesn't leave wiggle room for the stack to swell when the water freezes. Very good eye!

@raphaelroles6037 4 месяца назад

What is the operating temperature with the liquid technology, as most know lithium has a low temperature problem, and some liquids expand when they freeze so is it a similar problem.

@jastoddart 4 месяца назад

like anything the future will be a mix of tech. But lowering the demand on one should help keep the cost down on all.

@jet_mouse9507 4 месяца назад

Hey, I just wanted to say, I don't appreciate how at 10:40 you plotted mAh/g vs. Wh/Kg. The plot shows that the new Zinc-ion batteries run at a lower voltage than standard lithium-ion batteries though, the voltage of the battery has nothing to do with capacity, and if it's too low, you can just put them in series. I just finished watching the video though, and you actually brought up voltage, so that's good. Then would be a better time for that graph. And, thanks for including the whole drawbacks section!

@collincluff7955 4 месяца назад

Watching your magnetic drive system program brings up one question, where do you propose to get the electricity to run the system?

@artistanthony1007 4 месяца назад

I am prefering Graphene-Zinc Ion for a BEV or Graphene-Zinc.Ion Supercap for a HEV, I'm still planning to make a Battery from that chemistry.

@marcodebruin5370 4 месяца назад

I'm excited about different chemistries that get optimal characteristics for various use cases: In bulk transport (trucks and planes) the density by weight is crucial (the battery itself needs to moved, while battery-volume and cargo-space can find an optimum for short-haul and long-haul capacity requirements) In personal transport (cars and bikes) the charge-time is crucial for longer trips, with density by weight becomes less crucial (still important as it sill needs to be moved as well) when more charge-stations are built to remove range-anxiety. In grid-storage fast charge & discharge are crucial to respond to supply and demand profiles, as well as resource-availability due to the high demand and cost-sensitivity. Energy-density plays no role In home-storage the resource-availability (and cost) is important to drive higher adoption to off-load the grid (many charge-cycles will also help to keep maintenance-cost down over the life of a home. But charge/discharge speeds are not all that important Lastly in small devices: high energy by both volume and weight, fast re-charge and low cost are all important, also battery-recycling ability (reclaiming the battery after the device is discarded due to being out of fashion long before the battery is end-of-life) For each of the above different chemistries will ultimately be used that can be optimised accordingly...

@eunu6928 3 месяца назад

@twobitdavinci can you do a video about size standardization of cell size benefits/con ? Thankyou

@tubasteinar 4 месяца назад

Another question to usability, what about extreme limate contitions - especially for outdoor use in arctic climates, since water has the bad habit to turn into ice...?

@HammerOn-bu7gx 4 месяца назад

All of the above quite honestly. Where chemistry, economics, safety, and SWaP-C (Size, Weight, Power, and Cooling) are in play, all these factors will dictate which to use.

@skidaddledude1997 4 месяца назад

With the water in the battery what happens at low temperature. Does the battery freeze up? Right now we are experiencing temperatures of minus 36C.

@socratesDude 4 месяца назад

Is it better to have one battery that does it all or batteries that are specifically designed to each application?

@josefszentjobi1115 4 месяца назад

There was talk about the Chinese using a diamond layer component in the formulation of future Batteries. Maybe that's worth looking into ??

@ksnax 4 месяца назад

The discharge rate of these cells however is likely 'ball lightning'. Fast blowing fuses may be miniature suns. :P

@volentimeh 4 месяца назад

Big caps are scary enough let alone a battery with an even higher potential discharge rate..

@capsfederation3154 4 месяца назад

the best way to rollout battery adoption is to market the zinc as eco friendly as it is easily recyclable and functions (as an ecosystem) much better where demand and capacities to recycle are best

@gabrielback5615 4 месяца назад

This morning was ~45 degrees C. Its pretty important that it works in the cold. Any info there?

@dsthorp 4 месяца назад

Amazing

@kencrum2524 4 месяца назад

I like the idea of these batteries. Though, I think for home use I like the idea of the zinc flow batteries or the idea of stored hydrogen in low pressure media like that one company is doing with plastic ape and lasers

@robertdavidson3090 4 месяца назад

Lower voltage usually means a heavier gauge cable to transmit the power. As you said there are always tradeoffs and it could be a while before we see these batteries come up to scale. Plus the extra weight is not great for a car as that would cut range negating the other advantages.

@BillMitchell-lm8dg 4 месяца назад

Putting cells in series raises the voltage of the battery, so the output current can stay the same, and thus the same power transmitted.

@MikkoRantalainen 4 месяца назад

@@BillMitchell-lm8dg I agree, you just need at least double amount of cells in a battery pack. However, that means that even smartphone class devices would need BMS and cell balancing implementation which would increase costs for the end user device. If the final battery pack can take even 500C charge and dischager speeds, that would be insanely great tech nonetheless. With 500C charging power, you could basically regen brake EVs in all situations.

@stevemorris6855 4 месяца назад

I remember people carrying batteries about that looked like that in the 1950s. I never knew where they were taking them. 😊🇬🇧

@wussrestbrook1200 3 месяца назад

Steve were you alive during ww2??

@stevemorris6855 3 месяца назад

@@wussrestbrook1200 no. 1950. Why do you ask

@wussrestbrook1200 3 месяца назад

@@stevemorris6855 you had consciousness in the 50s so i thought you might have been alive then😆 as a teen you guys are like living artifacts so very cool🙏🏻

@Fitsanmast 4 месяца назад

It will be interesting to see the future, If Dendrites are created by electric paths then there has to be a way to destroy them. Once we figure that out we will be able to reverse that process and give those batteries a longer life span.

@CorwinPatrick 4 месяца назад

The answer is always "All of them". Just like we use Steel, Aluminum, and Magnesium for car wheels for different uses and economics... We will use Lithium, Sodium, Zinc, and other Chemistries for different Use Cases and Economics.

@markwiegard8384 4 месяца назад

Will the freeze or will the zinc sodium solution lower its freezing point? Dendrite’s, what is the chemical make up and what could use that metal crystal? More times than not, a by product of a process has just as much value.

@Taahmim 4 месяца назад

Its might be the future for solar and wind Energy storage

@keithplymale2374 4 месяца назад

I keep seeing video's like this on RU-vid. I'll believe this like all the rest when I can buy it on the shelf for no more than batteries cost today.

@goiterlanternbase 4 месяца назад

When the goal is to raise the cyclability from 300 to 900, it is a hard price fight. A cheap and easy recyclable battery could make battery swap feasible, but only if both factors are right.

@christopherleubner6633 2 месяца назад

Zinc is extremely prone to dendrite formation, however using an intermittent high current pulse as part of the charge cycle can fix this problem. The other issue is that the voltage will be about 1.2 to 1.4V meaning more cells would be needed for higher voltage. Also vanadium is a very toxic metal.

@Gazpolling 4 месяца назад

When something is too good to be true, it often is

@philipdove1705 4 месяца назад

Would these work better in extreme cold and hot environments ?

@angeloortelli583 4 месяца назад

Another promising battery technology to watch out for is aluminum ion batteries. They're being developed by the Graphene Manufacturing Group in research partnership with the University of Australia. Aluminum ion batteries have several advantages over lithium ion and materials will be easier to source.

@dpjazzy15 4 месяца назад

Sodium might be the way to go for mobile stuff. Split salt. You get sodium for batteries and chlorine for other industrial applications.

@jasonbadman8518 4 месяца назад

When? I want.

@DeggaTheDev 4 месяца назад

Good video. Unfortunately, I have to file this away as vapour-ware until it comes out. It fits right up there with the Hyperloop or solar roadways. Fingers crossed though.

@artistanthony1007 4 месяца назад

Zinc Ion and Zinc Air Batteries are a thing smh.

@DeggaTheDev 4 месяца назад

@@artistanthony1007 I'm aware of that, kiddo. Just like fusion exist. smh. However, the glaring issues with zinc ion batteries' reliability, lifespan, and performance as suggested in this video seem unrealistic given what I've read. As I stated in my comment, I hope the issues were solved, but I've also heard several statements just like this over the years with no real outcome. I'll believe that they're viable when I see it. AGAIN, fingers crossed.

@DavidConnerCodeaholic 4 месяца назад

it does survive 450⁰C in contact with O2 and SO2 to produce H2SO4... so that's good news. it has a lot of reaction pathways though. Also the "dancing pairs" implies that this is conditionally dependent on those two events happening simultaneously without accumulating unintended side effects. Regardless of whatever the dancing pairs are.... i just wouldn't rely on "paring" when heat is involved. also, the planar crystals are similar to some of the starting materials (?) for Metal Organic Frameworks. These link tungsten/molybdenum with ochem groups, but i believe need a crystal surface to dock to. The V2O5 crystals are closer to some newer chip fab materials. means you basically need Molecular Vapor Deposition. Translation: it don't scale too good ... if it did we'd already be using MOF to break down CO2 by post-processing filtered seawater ... while China does nothing but egg on the West's self-loathing. I haven't gotten to the zinc part yet. the good news is that these crystals and the MOF's have strong bonds.

@DavidConnerCodeaholic 4 месяца назад

Hmmmm i doubt it: "The 3D-NVO was prepared by a facile and scalable electrodeposition technique. The electrochemical deposition was carried out at room temperature..."

@DavidConnerCodeaholic 4 месяца назад

"facile" is a weasel word.... it's at least not impossible though, as far as i can tell (which isn't much)

@DavidConnerCodeaholic 4 месяца назад

maybe using ultrasound with some kind of flush could refresh used batteries after zinc buildup ... but it's unlikely since the space is so confined. nothing in the solution can really have chemical affinity for the zinc except the intended components.

@TheeTiten 4 месяца назад

If I’m understanding this right, it’s energy/power density probably stems from the fact that it’s more of a zinc hydrogen battery than just a zinc one.

@MauroTamm 4 месяца назад

It's 1.5V but at what max current? 1.5v is surprisingly also great for all the AA/AAA rechargeable batteries.

@davidhulk 4 месяца назад

if they could make a solid state zinc battery that may solve some of the problems though dendrites would still be possible

@patrickryckman3341 4 месяца назад

This man has a 5 oclock shadow at 5am... probably has to change blades twice per shave. Im not saying to insult, Im genuinely impressed. I bet if you ever run out of work you could sell your beard hair as sheeps wool.

@robertlittlehawk7713 4 месяца назад

Being a lowly e e t, it seems to me the problems are far out weighed by the advantages of this type of battery over the sodium and lithium ones; prompting the development of them.

@yagogabriell 4 месяца назад

The future is the brazilian battery with Niobio.

@stratman103 4 месяца назад

OMG. Another “battery tech about to take the world by storm” video. I’ll believe it when I see it in a retail product.

@Sq7Arno 4 месяца назад

This seems to be a particularly good battery tech for robots, if they can make them at scale with the stated specs. Take Boston Dynamics' Spot for instance. Its battery is 560Wh. The battery weight is 5kg, about a 6th of the robot's weight, and it takes up a fair amount of space. It can operate for 90 minutes on that. However, it takes 60 minutes to charge. It would be way better if it only needed battery capacity for 60minutes, i.e. a smaller and lighter battery, but with the ability to charge in 5 minutes. Same for robot vacuum cleaners and the like. It would just be way, way more time efficient.

@andrewbrown6578 4 месяца назад

This looks good, lets hope it is not vapourware, but from what i have read it really is going to do what it has announced it to be capable of. And as this is a 12 year design that has been improved on i don't see it being vapourware, we can only but hope they release the first ones to the public soon.

@jamesspry3294 4 месяца назад

How is this different from Zinc-Bromine flow batteries? They've been around for ages

@malbrownie 4 месяца назад

It seems to me there is new battery technology every week. When these new batteries hit the market, the Lithium Iron batteries, (which are still useful), should become very inexpensive.

@johnslugger 3 месяца назад

*Vanadium is cool since it can hold 5 electrons but its just a Vanadium FLOW battery that DOES NOT flow.*

@aldenconsolver3428 4 месяца назад

I recently did a back of the envelope calculation that you might want to follow up for your programs. It appears that the failure and fire rate of Li Ion batteries is grossly exaggerated on RU-vid and some news sources. Makes really attractive videos but the actual burn up percentage may not be much different that with gasoline vehicles which burn up fairly frequently in collisions. Hard to get the data but it would be worth it.