New Big Picture - OUTLAW TANGENT 

"And everyone else is free to tell to to fuck off about it" That's what they fear, Bob. That is what they fear.

Honestly: “let go, own up and move on” feels like a great mindset to have a lot of the time.

That closing point is so cathartic to hear as it’s one that I think so many people have forgotten or failed to learn, probably since forever but especially in the last decade. Yes, you’re free to be an arsehole. And everyone else is free to regard and treat you as such. If that upsets you, you’re not angry you’re being censored, you’re angry you’re unpopular, which is no one’s problem but your own.

"Anime jailbait." Bob tells it like it is.

Coworker of mine hated The Acolyte and was only talking about talking points from Star Wars theory. The show was heavily influenced by Darth Bane novels and he had no idea. When I told him this he then changed the argument to "do something original." Nothing in Star Wars is original. It literally cannot be

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from responsibility.

4:05 As a longtime fan of the film Annie (one of the final films of legendary director John Huston), I heartily approve of that "fuck you" to the creator.

Part of this reminds me of when Yahtzee Croshaw worked for the Escapist. He started doing the top 5 blandest because of how much video games had become emotionally numbing. So the movies are now noticeably following that trajectory.

Certain people: “Some evil conspiracy is making media bad!” Me: “Yeah; capitalism and investors who won’t take chances.” Them: “No, some other evil conspiracy!”

"Its fun to have fun but you have to know how"

You know, posting the old videos of The Big Picture, you really get a timeline of the evolution of these movements. And like, the general shift from giving them the benefit of the doubt to just being tired of their gaslighting.

For some reason, people developed this personal ideology that it is morally objectionable to find fault within things they like, so when they find something they don't like, they have to justify this dislike with an outside force. This is some paranoid world view. It is not a personal fault to dislike something from some bigger things you like.

Sweet Baby is a small company which holds MegaCorp status to these guys. It's funny.

I think part of Stephen King’s frustration with “The Shining” (1980) is that, even though Kubrick came up with all the iconic visuals and setpieces of that movie, all of the actual thematic meat about toxic family dynamics and legacies of the past haunting the present and alcoholism and depression and toxic masculinity destroying people…came from his own prose and yet people act like Kubrick “elevated” the material anyway.

No kidding, Star Wars Outlaws isn't mediocre because of wokeness. It's mediocre because it's another Ubisoft sandbox, the unseasoned mashed potatoes of gaming. It's such an Ubisoft sandbox Yahtzee had to go "You. Know. HOW IT PLAYS" when having to get around to describing gameplay. And yeah, overall, people are just cowards who don't want to admit they carry retrograde opinions. It's so dumb and boring.

All those people trying to claim that Aloy is ugly when she looks exactly the fucking same as her character model Hannah Hoekstra, is completely batshit insane.

God, if bob could just polish his aesthetics and upgrade his presentation a bit he could be more algorithm ready, cause man he is one of the few cultural critics whose takes are the right mix of blunt and nuanced that more people should hear.

Yeah I'm actually seeing that very "ugly women is a conspiracy" thing in the discussion forums on steam for Starfield like RIGHT NOW. it's hilariously pathetic.

Okay, Mr Chipman...that summed up about every thought I've got about these losers (who are definitely in our Gen X age bracket) who can't stop whining. For refusing to own their shit, they come off as cowards. Gods help them when corporations finally figure out Gen Z enough to never bother with the incels again.

On the bright side, we can now dismiss all the negative criticism of the things we like as part of a Russian op.

honestly "woke" has become such a nebulous thing on the right side of politics to me it sounds like " anything left leaning bad" and I feel like it says more about the creator than the work they're trying to critique. like they aren't mad because its "woke" they're mad cause they're self aware enough to see that it has more left leaning ideas in it, and they're getting all pissy about it.

The funny thing is that two of the few documented cases where the hijacking happened are due to anime director Yoshiyuki Tomino, with the first Gundam and Ideon he allegedly lied to the sponsors who wanted a classic robot superhero for little kids to sell toys and he did indeed sell them as such, instead he made war dramas with giant robots that half the times ended in tragedy and were considered kind of offputting at the time by the supposed target audience, with the first Gundam in particular tanking hard in terms of audience. He hijacked his projects with his ideology and we still thank him for it and for some reason people say it's an inherently bad thing.

to add to this you dont need to like every product of an IP either.

6:46 I concur with your conclusions on Batman V Superman, Mr Chipman. There was enough blame to go around for everybody on that one. With that said, I have never stopped finding it unbelievably disgusting that Snyder pushed the "unjustly suppressed auteur" Randian BS afterwards to get the cult to push for "the Snyder Uncut" of Justice League (which made pinning the sole blame on him for his DCEU failures that much easier).

I thought we liked "Sigourney Weaver in the first two Alein movies" AND "Scifi tomboy chick"s, what do these nerds even want anymore? I feel like nerds are the most pandered to we have ever been in my life, and there are people complaining about it? These people clearly did not grow up not being able to talk about Anime in public.

Schlocktober! Just seeing that word made me giggle. I can't wait. I watch the compilations while I work.

That anime jail bait line reminded me of the time someone put Honoka for DOA into a program that determines your age from your face and it said she was twelve years old.

YT tried to send me one of those videos. The thumbnail added like 100lbs of fat on the Outlaws protagonist and blamed everything on "woke". Worst thing is that the guy was Hispanic and his fan base would turn on him in an instant. A loud group of people are upset they're not getting the special treatment they feel entitled to and they're blaming everyone else for their awful behavior.

.....I actually like how Kay looks 🤷‍♂

It's never just one guy. It's always a whole team of idiots.

"eating pets" What the fuck? Nevermind, I don't even want to know.

"Ben Shapiro dry dream" lmfao

To quote Abe Simpson, "I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary." I think the ones that drank the Flavor-aid, took this a little too much to heart. Oh-No.

6:03 - 6:46 I think the myth about "WB was against Snyder's vision from the start" might have gotten mixed up or conflated with the behind-the-scenes of Fant4stic, like Fox realised that Josh Trank had turned in an unwatchable movie that was not helped by his erratic behaviour on set, and so desperately tried to polish a turd. Like, Fox only rushed Fant4stic into production at the last minute because they had to put out a Fantastic Four movie to keep the rights, and Trank's original vision deviated so much from the source material that it might not have met the legal requirements Fox had to follow.

I remember renting Blueberry and thinking "hmm, Vincent Cassel in western, this might be good." I was a bit...surprised by the trippy turn, good fun though.

I think what distinguishies the AVGN from ragebaitung Grifters is that the show aknowledges that the AVGN is a childish asshole. Like, yeah, Rolfe does make a case when the game actually does something bad, but when it comes to personal taste or even the reason why the AVGN plays through a game that just aggrivates him the answer is pretty openly "Well, the Nerd is a moron!"

I mean all of their other more ridiculous ideas aside, how could any sane human not think Alien/s Ripley is extremely hot? What is wrong with these people?!

If you've already seen the This Movie Exists episode, this feels like MovieBob's version of a Choose Your Own Adventure story. They both begin literally exactly the same, but go one direction, and you're in another dissection of popular culture, and go in the other, and you learn about a French Western called 'Blueberry' where being a French Western called 'Blueberry' is not even the weird part.

This may genuinely be your best video ever. Thank you for posting it!

They buy into it because it is somebody telling them what they want to hear. They don’t want to hear someone else’s opinion, they want to hear their opinion come out of someone else’s mouth. It’s why I think the thing that frustrates me more is every. Single. Time. It is “Star Wars is over!” or “The MCU is dead!” And it’s just not and even if an MCU movie is just fine that’s fine with me my self worth isn’t tied to the success of Star Wars or Marvel like it is with them. It’s like they want me to witness their sadness and that’s what they get off on.

This is why I've started responding to trolls and complainers by asking them straight up "so, which movies/tv shows/etc do you enjoy?" Unsurprisingly, they never have an answer to the question.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY HOW DARE YOU

Thank you Bob. This NEEDED to be said

I've seen this sentiment echoed in other videos that aren't explicitly about this subject, you can, in fact, simply not like a thing and not have it be indicative of a bigger wider problem.

So executives working in a liberal arts industry hire people with liberals arts credentials who happen to then begin to work and express their liberal ideas into film/game/comics, etc. It really it's that simple.

I'm mad at you for bringing Star Wars Theory to my attention. That guy is just a human blight.

My pet theory is that the haters spinning conspiracy theories to support their opinion basically feel left out of all the progressive movements in recent years. The queer rights movement, for example, is built on recognizing our wildly homophobic culture and trying to push back - and it worked. So now the haters want a socio-political movement of their own, no matter how specious. Also, as an aside, arguably Frank Miller's "The Spirit" would fit in the first half of the show, since it came off more like a mean-spirited parody of the original work rather than any attempt at a faithful adaptation. Or just a pure ego show for Miller. And as I understand, he had very little oversight, since the studio basically thought that Frank Miller + Sin City visuals had to be a winner.

What happened to not watching something you don't like? Is it not a thing anymore? The WOKE BAD grifters don't know about this fabulous concept?

so glad you finally put in words what i've already been thinking for some time

Sexy video game characters and recognizable IP mascots are the superficial draw. Gameplay and story are for retention. You buy Tomb Raider because Lara Croft is a large-breasted woman in sexy Die Hard cosplay with a British accent. You keep playing after you've seen that character model do everything the game allows because she’s a self-reliant, physically and emotionally strong historian who can push multiple tons of rock with her bare hands and go toe to toe with rabid wild animals and giant alien robots.

One of your best, Bob.

Anger merchants 😂😂😂

Well we mostly get lukewarm stuff with the occasional gem like Oppenheimer or Inside Out 2 and the occasional turd like Borderlands.

"It's okay to not like things. It's okay, but don't be a dick about it."

What's even worse is that these people act like they're "deeply intelligent free thinkers" and yet are constantly checking on what others in their echo chamber are thinking just to make sure they're marching in lock-step solidarity. Take Jeremy from Geeks and Grifters, for example. He actually initially loved The Last Jedi and posted a positive review of it (which he has since deleted, but you can find reuploads if you know where to look) but as soon as it became profitable to hate on The Last Jedi, he deleted those vids and pretended he was always on the Last Jedi hate bandwagon so he could get the clicks that the rest of the bandwagon did.

Bob, as usual, with the 100% accurate take. Appreciate you, man

14:00 I won't lie, I forgot about that. Got a good laugh out of me.

To Annie and Starship Trooper's you might add Altman's The Long Goodbye, where the famously gun averse Philip Marlowe shoots someone.

I'm pretty sure Conservatives hated the Beaver because Osha asked what the Beaver's pronouns were.

I never understood the whole bitch about how characters look. I am a late stage Gen-X and I grew up on Atari 2600 and original NES graphic, that make Mine Craft look High Def. Hell, I remember when GTA Vice City was deemed cutting edge graphics. I say all that, not because I think we had it better, but to try explain my POV when I ask, why does anyone even care? If you have the time, money and ability to play video games, you are already so much luckier than millions of other people in the world, that it just makes the people complaining about it look like pieces of shit.

How come no one ever says, "The writing is bad."? It's too woke, or it's pushing some agenda, or these strong female characters are so bad, not, "the writing is bad."

Thank you Bob.

Thanks, Bob! This was great

I think this goes for political causes too, especially ones guised in progressive activism: the second it causes someone else harm, it's no longer acceptable. But you're allowed to feel it deep down, as awful a person you might be.

God bless you Bob, your ability to eloquently summarise this shit in ways i lack the ability to do on my own is brilliant.

It's really sad when the faux performative outrage over 'woke agenda' ends up being the loudest in the room. I would love it if the topic of discussion for any ubisoft game is instead how they're still making games and have any credibility left after all those abuses came to light

I did not click on this thinking I'd get a Vonnegut reference, but (knowing MovieBob, it tracks) I'm here for it

😢 most of this internet drama swill is just ridiculous at this point like people please get a life already there's no such thing as WoKe whamen etc seriously if something sucks or doesn't look like fun just don't watch play listen etc! What a concept! 😮

3:08 Given that I found the original Mike Mignola comics way more boring, badly written and just snoozefests, especially compared to the first two movies, he should be thankful Del Toro is the reason why ANYBODY outside comic circles even KNOWS Hellboy.

14:14 Yeah, I'm with you, Bob. Sure, I got my copies of those games when I did - i.e. as a horny teen - and it took me years before I started truly enjoying the volleyball game it is built around, but I did start enjoying it, I find it to be one of the best volleyball games to play, and yes, I still have and still enjoy my horny teenage imagination that was around those games. I just no longer let my horny teenage imagination run my life, and I'm glad that I broke its hold over my life back in my... mid-20s (for the record, I'm in my mid-30s and only slightly younger than you, Bob). And I'm glad that you introduced me to the DOA movie. It is one of my favorite bad movies, and even though it is bad, I still enjoy watching it.

Listening to this felt very cathartic

Speaking of movies hijacked by the director, what about Freddie Got Fingered? Supposedly the studio was keeping close tabs on Tom Green, but Tom was stringing them along saying “trust me this is what kids find funny” and released an intentional bomb with the joke being he got it made. Some of the executive notes are even incorporated into the movie’s plot word for word. Might make an interesting This Movie Exists even if it isn’t true.

6:27 Suddenly screaming in my house "THEN WHY DID WE STILL GET STUCK WITH EZRA MILLER IN THE FLASH!?"

I've been saying something similar to this since way back in the days of Gamergate. If you say "I don't like this because it doesn't suit my taste." that is a bulletproof argument I can't and won't try to fight you on. enjoy what you like and don't enjoy what you don't. simple as that. but they always have to justify their dislike with some kind of super offensive logic and like, guys, you're not helping yourselves, stop talking two sentences sooner and you'd be fine. It's so ok to say "meh, wasn't my thing." and then shut up. but when you say "it wasn't my thing because i'm not attracted to women who look like MEN!" and then point to a conventionally attractive woman but is just a touch outside of that window to give her some personality. then your argument is stupid and you by extension are stupid for making it. I have plenty of complaints about the acolyte and i'm sure as shit not going to play the next beige bland open world snoozefast made by ubisoft while they employ sexual predators but like none of my problems with either of those things is "woman bad."

Harrison Bergeron is not a reference I hear every day. That warms my heart!

I’ll give you another example. I read this is an EGM article decades ago but apparently the husband and wife duo who directed the original Super Mario wanted to hijack the film and turn it into Blade Runner with dinosaurs. The article didn’t directly draw that line (I imagine flat out writing it might have resulted in litigation) but the directors had spent years shopping a project around Hollywood that took place in a scifi world where dinosaurs evolved into people. When they were signed on to the Mario movie, they agreed on the terms that they would be able to change the genre (fantasy to science fiction) and be able to rewrite the script as needed. They then shifted pre-production to create a bunch of dinosaur creatures that did not remotely resemble Mario characters including a few that would have guaranteed the movie an R rating if they had reached the screen. It’s likely they would have made their Dinosaur Runner movie if the producers hadn’t visited the set on the first day of shooting and asked why there were dinosaur strippers in a children’s movie. From there the movie descended into chaos and the script had to be rewritten as they shot (probably because it had nothing to do with the Mario brothers). When the shooting ended, the producers took the movie away from the directors to edit it so they couldn’t possibly make last minute alterations. The directors were blacklisted immediately afterwards as I’m sure it got out that they nearly stole a movie to make their own.

I'm not always into your episodes that are more culture-war-focussed. But you were cookin' in this one.

People believe what they want to believe

Someone animated that DOA Beach Volleyball bounce.... Like in a cube farm.

8:00 *checks Bob's videos* The video is still there!

Doesn't help that the RU-vid algorithm prioritizes catchy thumbnails including provocative statements, usually negative ones. Disaster! Worst Ever! A Crime Against XYZ! or any other sub-group's catchy word of the day - Woke! DEI! LOLFail! or many I don't even know. It's a mixed bag of good and bad doesn't get the clicks. And once they promise the apocalypse in the thumbnail, they have to deliver it, no matter how disingenuous that may be.

DOA Extreme Volleyball is the pinnacle of video gaming and I am will to die on that hill, er, island.

I was just saying the other day how people are so use to movies being just fine now, that “fine” has become the new “bad.” Truly bad movies are an event in there own right. I didn’t believe anything I heard about Madame Web until I saw it for myself, and I’m glad I did. Spent about 2 weeks breaking down every element of that movie and explaining why it was bad to anyone who’d listen. Some of the most fun I’ve ever had.

16:20 anyone else expecting a pic of Trump with yellow text: "We voted one of you in. It's okay!"

Just not people in the "evolutionary sense" has me dyin laughing already. Cheers fellows.

I’m still mad there’s no Hellboy 3. On the other hand the version of Hellboy 3 that exists in my head is probably better than anything they’d actually make at this point. There’s a universe somewhere where it exists but at least I get to enjoy Golden Army any chance I want.

Loved this, and it does go well with the Blueberry vid.

To be fair, while I vehemently disagree with all the reactionary culture war douchenozzles, I do get where their mindset comes from. They feel like their opinion can only matter if they can make it part of the consensus, and prove any naysayers wrong - they have so little faith in their own opinions, they need to make it the consensus. Messed up - but I do get it.

Sorry, but... what makes you think Mignola doesn't like the Del Toro Hellboys? Every time I've seen interviews with him, he always speaks glowingly of them, his involvement, and even his hopes to finish the trilogy. Everything I've seen points the blame for the reboots at the feet of the film producers - they have the rights, they want to hold onto them, but they didn't want you she'll out for the budget Del Toro requested back in the day, but it's too late to go back and make it now.

Didn't Wesley Snipe's villain say something similar in Demolition Man? I mean, he was coming at it from a different angle, but it just... lol. It reminded me of that and made me laugh - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wx-Jz_SKBY0.html

I barely saw anything about Star Wars Outlaws, but the one thing I noticed really rubbed me the wrong way: that damn bike. I mean, I know Ubisoft is mostly bankrupt on ideas but for fuck sake, they didn't even try, it's an actual contemporary, 20th-21th century non-descript motorcycle without wheels. Even the chopper-like bike from Shadow of the Empire was more akin to the Star Wars esthetic. And I seem to be the only one hung up on it, the frustration of being a designer >:(

nah we can have both we can have characters look like anime jailbait AND push progressive ideals/politics/social ideals and I won't give up on that dream

I look forward to seeing this get taken completely out of context

6:26 Thank you for, in addition to calling out the bs from the usual suspects, throwing some cold water on the version of auteur theory that seems to be taken as gospel around film discussion spaces online where the only worthwhile stuff can come from people with absolute control. Because that is impossible, just as a practical reality.

Nah the acolyte was trash. The writer really undercut established lore, created factions that dont exist in the established lore and worse is that it didnt pull it off. Now the lore is further fragmented for the fans whi care about it.

I’m listening to Yuval Noah Harari talk about their new book Nexus on the podcast The Gray Area, and the conversation veered into how power needs order and order is created best through a story and fiction is more interesting than fact. That’s why these people create these wild stories.

Classic Bob, mocking racists with a eugenics joke

It’s funny. This is a New Big Picture, references a movie review you could say is the sequel to Really that Good….and part of it could be said to be a GAME OVERTHINKER review! 😁👍

Oh man not Chris Gore too 😮 I used to really like him on G4 as a tween (And his book about best movies never made was really big to me at that age too). Bummer

I know exactly what your saying. I know this is made for 14 year old boys, but even 14 year old boys can sniff something out and it comes across as cynical.