People who do this should be ordered to pay back every penny. Plus the cost of the investigation. If any work has to be done to the property. Cost to remove any illegal tenants. No more how long it would take. Also the debt can't be wiped out by bankruptcy or anything else. Prison doesn't really work. But hitting people in there pocket book might. Housing councils also need to investigate the people getting these homes. Check they don't own other properties. See if they own a business. Check bank accounts. Get prof of income.
These council clowns need to be fired and billed for all this waste. How do you not do simple checks on someone when thye apply for a council house? Incredible levels of incompetence.
Unfortunately councils don't have regular access to most of the records they use for these investigations. Getting them is a long process. The British public has been very hostile to centralised record keeping every time it's been proposed.
No wonder these grifters and scammers have totally taken over in the UK. The council is asleep at the wheel and the grifter leeches are one step ahead.
What you hope might happen would probably double the cost, more checks, more people, more salaries. They do checks but obviously they are not on your doorstep for a month just in case you lied.
"We've been one step ahead of her..." says the man that took over 2 years to figure out he was being bent over and forced to take it along with his system 😂😂😂 Never a shortage of irony in these.
Uh yeah...everyone can agree that tenancy fraud is serious and widespread. Everyone except the Courts, apparently. Extensive, calculated fraud gets a fine. And given that it was a council employee *should* have been an aggravating circumstance calling for even a higher level of punishment.
Yes, it does not seem that the perpetrators get much of a punishment. I doubt that Angela Brown served more than a few months in prison and I am sure that she did not pay back much, if any, of the money.
The small fine basically made the fraud profitable for them even though they got caught. Absolutely disgraceful. The fine should amount to all profits made (or cost saved) and then some at the very least. Both should be barred from social housing for life also.
Unbelievable that the council did not check this woman out before the give her a property. If the could find out 2 years later, they should have found out BEFORE she moved into social housing. It takes a long time to get them out better to do a complete check before they move in. Sounds simple and I don't understand how people get away with so much fraud.
Why do these councils not check the applications? It seems there must be many many more frauds if they simply take the applications at face value and only verify income, property owned. I don't get it.
The lady with children who took over her Fathers property and was paying rent will now like be in temporary accommodation costing vast amounts of money waiting for priority housing! Result not 🤔
how come all of these are discoreved after years and years, and most shocking after a tipoff call ? what are the council people actually doing there in their comfy chairs in the offices? other than waiting for the day to finish and get their payments in their accounts? i would love to see a series made with all these brainless workers and their massive innactivity errors and ignorance done.
We spend about 10 times as much investigating benefit fraud than we do tax fraud, even though tax fraud costs the country infinitely more. Swindle the country out of 40k benefits, you get 10 years. Swindle millions in tax and you get a slap on the wrist. Hmm, I wonder why?
Because the people who you say ‘swindle tax’ create thousands of jobs and billions in wealth, a positive sum game, as opposed to real thieves who steal benefits. At least the rich create wealth…, they actually contribute not just take take take, me me me.
@@HumansAreShitFactories You absolute plank. So you think that because someone is rich then the law shoulodm´t apply to them. And no, not all tax dodgers create jobs or wealth.
@@HumansAreShitFactories Possibly the stupidest answer I´ll read today. They are stealing vast sums from the country. STEALING. Your argument is that the rich should be allowed to steal, but fail to understand that they are not contributing because they aren´t paying tax, and many of them pay so little that their employees don´t have to pay tax either.
They’re all acting like the heroes who came to save taxpayers’s money and to give these houses to deserving people when it’s their own failings that have caused the problem in the first place… the real crackdown is on these councils failings. Wrong allocation of resources and costly investigations and costly legal actions that are completely pointless since there’s no punishment and no money compensated
I agree 👍 with you because it shows that they are not truly working there and that they are not capable of being in social worker. They are wasting the resources we need and are not heros they need to be held responsible.
Why the heck do they allow these properties to be sold instead of keeping them turning over as people die/move on etc. It's ridiculous. Not everyone need to own their homes.
Because they can then use that money to build 2 more homes at cost with government contractors. Everyone wins. That tenant has a home and won't need housing. 2 more applicants get a home. Honestly people are really stupid.
@@sunwukong5413if this were true there would be a budget and stock surplus. But it is not. In fact social care costs which includes housing is the sole cause of council insolvency across the U.K.
Idk how to feel about this one. It was his daughter, who they stated was a single mom of at least 2 kids. She is probably one of the ppl who DID need the help. And the neighbors are all emotional and giving statements like it was a house full of drug addicted squatters punching holes in walls and throwing broken couches in the backyard to bring rats and roaches. Yes it was against the rules, but everyone acted like a serial killer was living there. The neighbor is crying for godsakes. Nothing bad must ever happen in that village.
I was going to comment the same. Not only that, but they also said her father's dad had lived there, then her father, yet at the beginning of the program they mentioned that people who grew up there can't afford to buy a property there so there's need for council properties. So in essence, they had a family for at least 3 generations living there, the 3rd being a single mum who I'm guessing was bought up in that house, then they kick her out, to house someone who 'needs it and deserves it' whilst the single mum will probably go back into the system to find another house in the same area. The hugs and the tears at the end were pathetic. "Yay I'm crying tears of joy because we've made a single mother and children homeless, so we can find a single homeless mum and children a home, yay, go us!"
I had to spend a year living in a homeless hostel with 2 small children in 1 room before i got my council flat Still live here but I know quite a lot of people rent out their council place out and still claim housing benefit disgusting
You make it so easy for people to take advantage and create fraud and when caught you give them a slap on the wrist with these stupid little fines you don’t give them any real prison time which is what they need and they’re laughing at you all the way through the court system because they know nothing bad is really going to happen to them you’re a joke. You talk a good game but you lack any follow through in fact we’re all laughing at you.
That council house in the village in Worcester is one of the most beautiful social houses I’ve ever seen! It’s makes you wonder why other councils make such ugly looking homes? Even now where I live, new social housing is being built- which is good given the great need for it - but I’ve never seen such unattractive looking houses. Thrown up quickly, causing those who’ve already moved in to some a never ending list of considerable issues, but also again ‘marking’ them as ‘council houses’. Even today, in early 2023, some people, particularly kids, who we all know can be cruel, pick on and mock people who live on and in council areas.
Historically council houses/estates had a bad reputation of looking like shit, but these days I’ve seen some beautiful council/social housing properties. There are new builds across me, some were brought, some were given out as social housing. You wouldn’t be able to tell that they were ‘council houses’ beautiful modern homes with nice driveway and front garden
This type of crime is being looked at completely wrong, it is what is stated A CRIME, all these non custodial sentences is sending out the WRONG MESSAGE, take them to court and give custodial sentences also take away other properties they own and give them to the councils to put onto their social housing. These lazy criminals are just looking for an easy way to earn money without working for it, I feel (like many others) that heavier custodial and finantual
Bearing in mind that single people are way down the list of those applicants with priority for social housing , I wonder how the thousands of foreigners, mostly young men, coming daily across from France will come on that list
People like that want to live in social housing so their rent is cheap and affordable, they have hardly any bills to pay with their income, then with all their money they make that the housing council doesnt know about they can drive nice expensive cars, buy all kinds of name brand clothes and jewelry, electronics etc..they wana live the best life possible with all the amazing material items but pay little as possible..SMH ..disgusting ..i would be embarrassed
MY sincere apologies, criminals should be really punished, charged for the damage have they done for society and prison sentence, sending off to Rwanda is going far, BUT..
But you gave the property to Angella Brown, so that SHE could start again, move up, etc. So how do you know the new people aren't doing the same thing?
The loss of council properties to fraudsters in the last 40 years is roughly 10% of the £110 billion the Tories gave to their cronies for PPE. It is 25% of the £37 billion spent on the first and useless track and trace app.
What i dont get is why councils dont do checks BEFORE handing out benefits and houses. If i apply for any help where I live my actual financial details will be assessed. Its not enough to say you earn something or say you dont own a home. It will be checked, and housing benefits will be checked every single month and what you get depends in that months income.
12 months that’s it? Well no wonder people cheat. Basically no punishment. It should be at least five years plus payback off all the money she’s taken. Unbelievable.
Yeah I agree, when I watch these things I can't get my head around the fact someone has the nerve to do that kind of thing, well I can cos some people just dont care but like it baffles me, me personally I think whatever you owe you should pay every penny back plus fees, but no one ever has to pay every penny back its only ever pennies they are made to pay back which drives me mad
I live in the US, however, if hubby wants a divorce, I will do whatever it takes to become an english resident, so that I can be entitled to free housing! These people make me sick! How dare they act like they are entitled to live in a great home, etc... grrr! just makes me so angry!
We have section 8 and HUD home's. When you get an approval for a HUD home you only have to do some community service and help with building or remodeling the home. Afterwards it's yours, you own it. We have a very abundant social welfare system here in the U.S., its harder to get away with these scams here as well.
In all cases, they should have to repay every penny, then pay back 100% more in community service work at the theoretical minimum wage. So you steal 10 grand, you pay it back then do 1000 hours of work on top. This means that the council would have progressively more resources as they found these people.
If the tenant is evicted there should be cause in contact or judgement that if the property is damaged the previous tenants can be charged. I know of some properties today that when the tenants move out of pass away, it will cost councils thousands to renovate to standard.
I am just blown away. The one i just watched had this lady who had a council house for 19 YEARS! Never once did anyone check on her or the house. Meanwhile, she wasnt even living there...but her cats were and the house was destroyed. It was filled with everything you would expect from a house full of cats. A 3 bedroom, with a garden. A family could have used that home. How they thought not following up at least yearly is beyond me. She did get sentenced to prison but i doubt she served her full sentence. Also, maybe verify all the info BEFORE handing over keys and giving them money?? So crazy it just might work.
I thought the council would do a land registry check of all the applicants. Surely they aren't going to charge themselves the 3 odd quid per applicant :s
How hard is it to check if somebody already owns a property. I hope the team who approved her home was punished as well. Property fraud should be immediate jailtime
I am confused, people in my street live in Council houses yet they have high end cars, Range Rovers, Porche etc, and have now got good jobs, Are they supposed to declare this now and find private property ? IMHO they should but what does the Council say
The councils should do more checks when they give keys willy nilly I’ve been homeless for 6months with my blind mother the council turned me down laughed in my face it weren’t till my mum was on her deathbed with lung collapse diabetic failure that they offered temporary accommodation for 1 day absolute scum i had to wait 3 years before i got sick to get a home that I have to work and pay for that i got help
The fact none seem to go to jail tells people, have a go, you will not end up prison so whats the worst that can happen? They take money from your free money in future..
I can not believe how many scum bags there are out there committing fraud to benefit their crooked lifestyles. And when caught how little of a punishment they get. These scumbags whether they are single or a couple need to have a heavy sentence including losing custody of their kids. And they should receive a 30 year prison sentence. You and I know damn well they will pull this same crap once they get out of prison.
I think you should go and seek help with your anger, 30 years in prison? Losing their kids? More than the vast majority of sex offender's and murderers? Bro get help...
@@Luton-Mick Sorry but I do not have a anger problem but I do have a problem with people that commit fraud. Plus I have a huge problem that are sex offender's and murderers. Those type of people need capital punishment.
