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New EFE Rail Beattie Well Tank | Unboxing & Review | (Plastic Tat) 

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My review of the new EFE Rail Beattie Well Tank from Bachmann... and I was not impressed!
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0:00 Introduction
2:42 Unboxing
6:11 History
7:21 Detail/Moaning
13:29 Beattie Well Tank
16:38 Performance
25:58 Ratings
30:11 Conclusion

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@methylatedspirit6810
@methylatedspirit6810 3 года назад
“He he hello. Do you like my new silky voice? It is trying to hide the fact that I AM ACTUALLY QUITE TRIGGERED!” that was really funny
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha! xD
@cogidubnus1953
@cogidubnus1953 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains Yeah...we noticed, (says he through gritted teeth).
@ALLCAPS2317
@ALLCAPS2317 3 года назад
Sam has achieved *illusion 100*
@Mewtwo557
@Mewtwo557 3 года назад
Sam: *begins to stop sounding calm* Literally everyone: Oh dear! What will he say?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yep, you know what's coming! ;D
@skuula
@skuula 3 года назад
World's hottest model train: build a loop line tunneling through a pizza oven, and let this one run on it.
@traintimeboy
@traintimeboy 3 года назад
Mmmmm pizza
@joshuaparson6233
@joshuaparson6233 3 года назад
That sounds quite good to watch.
@joshuaparson6233
@joshuaparson6233 3 года назад
That sounds quite good to watch.
@traintimeboy
@traintimeboy 3 года назад
Pineapple on mine pls and ham 2
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha, the word pizza caught my eye too... but yes, I like the idea.... very much so! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Tuggster
@Tuggster 3 года назад
This is one of my favourite engines in real life, THEY LOOK ADORABLE!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Jake - they really do! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@theeveningstar9235
@theeveningstar9235 3 года назад
Definitely! I love Beattie well tanks
@DiegoLiger
@DiegoLiger 3 года назад
You can tell they were built for suburban passenger service, with those big five foot wheels they just want to gallop along. Really comfortable to drive. They've got a sizeable firebox for such a small machine.
@guitar4ever-478
@guitar4ever-478 3 года назад
The effort you go through to reply to almost every comment really shows how much you care for your fanbase. Not to mention how much time and money it takes to do these reviews. I may be a simple American, but I enjoy learning about British engines here. Thanks for the amazing videos. Merry Christmas.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Bless you, it's a pleasure - I really enjoy reading and replying to comments! Merry Christmas - Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 3 года назад
Notice that the leading wheels stopped turning sometimes
@JamDread99
@JamDread99 3 года назад
At 18:13
@Decrepit_Productions
@Decrepit_Productions 3 года назад
Yeah, I noticed it too.
@dinowhizz444
@dinowhizz444 3 года назад
Nice to know I wasnt the only one who noticed it
@sirrliv
@sirrliv 3 года назад
Same here. It's those pilot wheels that have no bearings. Bet you anything some part of the axle is meeting a resistance point against that spring.
@dinowhizz444
@dinowhizz444 3 года назад
@@sirrliv it probably is and it's most likely what was causing the whole engine to judder a bit.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 года назад
Was considering getting one of these when they were first announced until I saw the price... very glad I didn't get one now! Looks like I dodged a plastic bullet! Crazy when you think that earlier this year Bachmann released the J72, a brand new tooling but a lower RRP and includes firebox glow, speaker, better detail, etc. Presumably they just pick the prices out of a hat now? 🤦🏻‍♂️
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yeah, a plastic bullet is right! The j72 was miles ahead of this! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Год назад
@That Model Railway Guy lol 😂, I agree that Bachmann’s pricing is crazy, but speaking in 2023 they are usually not as bad as Hornby’s. Regarding this coming out the same year as the J72, this was actually a DJM model before Bachmann bought the tooling and now sell them under their EFE Rail Range.
@DeepdigProductions
@DeepdigProductions Год назад
I've recently gotten this locomotive from Hattons and have personally loved it! Mine looks to be of a much higher quality... maybe some sort of retool. I personally can excuse the lack of power to it being an extremely old locomotive, but a bit more strength would be nice. Runs beautifully and can pull a realistic sized train well.
@jenaplinsky3977
@jenaplinsky3977 3 года назад
Gorgeous model Sam; I am an Italian railway modeler, but thanks to your reviews I have also learned to appreciate English models very much, which are very rare to find here. Greetings from Italy !!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Great to hear that Jena, thanks for sharing! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PrimevalParadise
@PrimevalParadise 3 года назад
Modellers: "Can we please have a good Beattie Well Tank?" Any manufacturer making a Beattie Well Tank: "No, I don't think you will"
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yep - a total slap in the face! :(
@the_autism_express
@the_autism_express 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains and I thought Mattel was lazy with Thomas models, but this EFE beatie well tank shows TRUE laziness!
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 года назад
@@the_autism_express its Bachmanns laziness I think all they contributed to these recycled Dave Jones and the Kernow Models locomotives are the corless motor and DCC chip.
@jamestalbot4900
@jamestalbot4900 3 года назад
@@bentullett6068 I think the original DJ version had the coreless motor in any case, I can’t see what Bachmann have contributed except the finish.
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 года назад
@@jamestalbot4900 they have contributed the Bachmann pricing I guess.
@LeStrangeW
@LeStrangeW 3 года назад
Sad that a lot of people are probably going to have negative associations with a lot of perfectly good locos thanks to pants-quality models like this one.😞
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 года назад
Matt Slade reviewed the new EFE range recycled ex Dave Jones J94 Austerity in his channel and even though it was nice to look at I hinted he wasn't overly excited about it.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Bennett, yes it is sad! I can't see the J94 being worth the asking price either!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@thepikminbeater5142
@thepikminbeater5142 3 года назад
hey sam's trains, great video. i've been watching your videos for only 1 year but i've managed to watch every single video you've made!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much John - wow every single one?! That must have been torture! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MegaTrainlover
@MegaTrainlover 3 года назад
Such a shame that Bachmann/EFE Rail have represented such a beautiful little loco in such a poor way. I'm seriously flabbergasted as to how they justified £140 for something that looks more akin to a toy. Was actually thinking of buying one but after this review I now have second thoughts. Really good review though as always! Keep it up!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I agree with you - such a pity! They must be mad mustn't they?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@terryhadler4565
@terryhadler4565 3 года назад
Really appreciate your comments and reviews. 60 odd years ago, I took up railway modelling which has given me endless pleasure over the years. What disappoints me is the continual level of indifferent quality of rolling stock. Surely it is not much to expect faultless running after all manufacturers have had enough time to fine tune mechanisms and to still encounter goods wagons and coaches of different manufacture failing to couple because of differing heightis is inexcusable. It seems that not all manufacturers of British outline models adopt the recommended standards for the hobby which defeats the whole object of the exercise. I can't help thinking that the NMRA has a more stringent approach and the main manufacturers make some of the sweetest running loco I know. Nevertheless, keep up the good work Sam. Best wishes
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
That's lovely to hear Terry, thanks so much! I do agree with you - it's baffling that so many shortcomings should still be around today, given what models cost! It does annoy me too when models don't comply with reasonable standards - I come across this once in a while too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Alpha-oo8
@Alpha-oo8 3 года назад
I’ve been busy doing a project on my computer, and I’ve had your videos on in the background, because you’re quiet enough that I can hear what I’m working on, but interesting enough to be engaged. It’s nice. So thank you.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - glad I'm relaxing to you, haha! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@GeoffArnold1
@GeoffArnold1 3 года назад
Your final score is remarkably generous.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Geoff, yes maybe so - but 5.63 is a very poor score from me - that puts it at 57/62 on the rankings! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@xaviers2ndaccount354
@xaviers2ndaccount354 4 месяца назад
Surprised it wasn't in the "top 5 worst model trains" video.
@iliketrainsilikeplanes6047
@iliketrainsilikeplanes6047 3 года назад
Great video! 11:23 that splasher is actually part of the real loco
@harryrobinson2901
@harryrobinson2901 3 года назад
The splashers on the actual loco are only at the edges of the footplate. Here they cross the footplate entirely, and the real things aren’t like that.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Harry, you're absolutely right - seen some video footage that proves this! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@loganwirth4146
@loganwirth4146 3 года назад
Because it would cost actual money to mold accurate splashers that represent the real thing they decided to just take the plastic covers off the "in cab wheels " of a battery powered locomotive from a Christmas train set makes perfect sense big jk lol
@DJMixFlow93
@DJMixFlow93 3 года назад
Sam, thank you! You have saved me a lot of money. After watching the whole review I decided to remove this loco from my wishlist. I don't appreciate a locomotive that moonwalks around the layout lol.
@jameshardy4354
@jameshardy4354 3 года назад
This locomotive struggles to move its self let a lone pull a train 🤣🤣🤣
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
No problem Kevin, really glad this helped you out mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MrDavil43
@MrDavil43 3 года назад
@@jameshardy4354 Sorry, but my one works fine.
@weeblewobble1776
@weeblewobble1776 3 года назад
I returned to your channel after recently getting back into trains and I just feel happy
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
That's lovely to hear - thanks so much!! :D
@therwsmodeller6498
@therwsmodeller6498 3 года назад
Yeey sam back with great review
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Jayden! :D
@leroyholm9075
@leroyholm9075 3 года назад
Hi Sam What an iconic design. My architect friend is always banging on about 'design on the human scale' This loco is definately person friendly. How good was Victorian design; ascetic, public friendly, practical, artisticaly pleasing and built to last!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I agree Leroy, it's a fantastic demonstration of all of this - one good thing about this model! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 3 года назад
16:52 is the cab leaning backwards or is it just me?
@stufindlow6664
@stufindlow6664 3 года назад
Looks like the running plate is bent
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yes others said that too - I admit I didn't notice, but I'll check! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@adrianmorrow9882
@adrianmorrow9882 3 года назад
It looks like it leans backwards to me...
@Poliss95
@Poliss95 3 года назад
Are you leaning backwards too? :-)
@spookyf1
@spookyf1 3 года назад
@@stufindlow6664 S shaped!
@100allnaturalrock4
@100allnaturalrock4 3 года назад
Never seen an engine this beautiful! great review!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Matthew - yes the livery is stunning! :D
@jonathanb2622
@jonathanb2622 3 года назад
Fantastic review as always Sam. Genuinely gutted to see what is such a lovely loco' not given the manufacturing effort it deserves, certainly at this price point anyway. From a distance I think this is one of the most charismatic engines I've ever seen you review and if it had as much diecast, fine detailing and performance as a Hornby Peckett I would certainly have bought one; it was great you ran a Peckett alongside it as they are a great yardstick of what can be achieved with a small loco' for around, but often much less than, £100. With over 90k subscribers I'm sure manufacturers must be taking note of your videos too so thanks again for your balanced/thorough reviews.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much Jon - I was really gutted too - awful really! I hope they are - I thought we'd seen the end of tat like this! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ironcityrailfan8467
@ironcityrailfan8467 3 года назад
I’d love to get one of those but they’re too bloody expensive here in the US of A
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Don't get me wrong, they're too bl***y expensive here in the UK too! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin 3 года назад
Even for a railways continental european addict like me, accustomed to "Deutschland über alles" prices, it is too expensive for the total lack of quality of the engine. Event at GBP 18, I won't buy one.
@vicfreak2529
@vicfreak2529 3 года назад
If bachmanns price's get any higher you'll be able to buy the real thing and ship it to the US 🇺🇸 😄
@ironcityrailfan8467
@ironcityrailfan8467 3 года назад
@Adi Odjidja true
@garrymartin6474
@garrymartin6474 3 года назад
Was the running plate curved too ? It looked like it at times. Thank you Sam for putting us in the picture.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah others have said that - I think you're right! No problem my friend! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Vyn_Solina_0213
@Vyn_Solina_0213 3 года назад
Almost to 100k subs keep up the great work!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much Vyn! :D
@dbrhall
@dbrhall 3 года назад
Dear @sam, as always, thank you for helping the hobby. On another note, I completely and utterly agree with your comments. We (as modelers) cannot keep buying trains (since it's our hobby) and keep jumping from one brand to the next trying to find a decent locomotive (or rolling stock to that matter). It's hard enough to fund the purchase and harder still to find split chassis (to name a few of the failures...) in 2020. I have not had in my collection a split chassis since my Bachmann Consolidation gave up on me, which my father bought when I was a baby back in the 80's. I do not think that the EFE initiative might be bad by itself, but if the do not consider improving the quality they will lose clients 1 by 1. Keep well! D.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much David for the kind words - I agree - times are hard, and when we spend £120 on a model, it needs to be decent... no excuses! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@vicfreak2529
@vicfreak2529 3 года назад
Thanks Sam, you've just saved me from wasting alot of cash on something that isn't worth the postage, well done again Bachmann I'm just glad I'm not a shareholder in their company, send it back Sam, I bet after seeing your review quite a few orders will be cancelled, however I would buy one for £60 as I would have to cut alot of detail off ,ie the Drummond safety valves and dome that look like 2 cigarettes pushed into a boob, and the smoke box door dart is just laughable, thanks for a good laugh Sam 😆
@marks.6480
@marks.6480 3 года назад
Bachmann is wholly owned and operated by Kader, a Chinese company that's the biggest railway model manufacturer in the world.
@vicfreak2529
@vicfreak2529 3 года назад
@@marks.6480 it doesn't matter how big the company is, if they produce a product that no one will buy they won't make any profit , if they don't make profits, they will sell or liquidate that part of the company, its sad really, I have a number of bachmann locos and they are brilliant especially the lms 10000, but the last couple of years they've lost their way, I think they have too many money men on board in the UK and not people who know the hobby inside out , look at hornby they nearly went under, that beattie well tank is shocking compare that to the dapol 43xx which is £15 more and tell me its worth £118 its a £75 loco and thats being kind ,
@marks.6480
@marks.6480 3 года назад
@@vicfreak2529 you missed my point. Bachmann is no longer Bachmann, it's just a label. Kader produces many brands.
@vicfreak2529
@vicfreak2529 3 года назад
@@marks.6480 yes I know its been part of kader since the 1980s,
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
No problem Vic - and I'm glad I don't own shares too, lol! You're right too - the company can be as huge as they like - if they don't produce good stuff, they don't get a good review. Simple! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Nobel200
@Nobel200 3 года назад
From watching this it looks like the running plate is sagging at the rear. The cab and bunker appear not to be perpendicular to the rail. It may be picture distortion from the close ups from the camera. if you have a small set square this will verify this or at least put a straight metal ruler alongside the running plate. My Triang Polly from the 1960s has a separately fitted brass whistle!
@dangerdave0000000001
@dangerdave0000000001 3 года назад
I thought that too that the rear sags down abit and the cab looks off too
@treinenliefde
@treinenliefde 3 года назад
Yeh the running board is definitely sagging.
@jamestalbot4900
@jamestalbot4900 3 года назад
It’s not a distortion, they all lean slightly. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yes I've had a few comments about that - not something I noticed, but I will investigate. It's such cheap thin plastic that I wouldn't be surprised at all! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 3 года назад
Finally! Sam with a beattie
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yes! :D
@the4tierbridge
@the4tierbridge 3 года назад
Hey Sam, do you know where I could get some Tri-and or Dublo parts, like Buffers, Handrails, Coupling, etc?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Hmm, Ebay is probably your best bet! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@class158productions5
@class158productions5 3 года назад
But then remember, the actual model, is about 9 years old. It was built to be about £70 when first released with kernow, it’s these silly efe prices causing older locos to suddenly be put up against brand new models.
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 года назад
Its Bachmann pricing as they own the EFE branding. The EFE range is supposed to be a rival to the model stores like Hattons and Hornby with the Railroad range but I don't think Bachmann get that they should charge less for old models.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah I heard it's as old as that... it's existence in 2020 for that price is all the more baffling as a result! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@scot913
@scot913 3 года назад
This reminds me of one of my big concerns about the new locomotion precedent. It has a coreless motor
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yes indeed - not a fan of coreless motors! Combined with the traction tyres, their propensity to overheat could be a problem! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davidstrains4910
@davidstrains4910 3 года назад
Great review Sam it looks very nice
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks David! :D
@PsiPancake
@PsiPancake 3 года назад
The livery of the loco is just breath taking! Lovely review and fantastic loco!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Agreed, they did a great job on the livery! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@kariikonen8695
@kariikonen8695 3 года назад
*Hears Sam moaning* "SAM THIS IS A CHRISTIAN SERVER!"
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha say what?!? ;D
@plaguedoctormuffin
@plaguedoctormuffin 3 года назад
Onii-chan Sam what are you doing
@plaguedoctormuffin
@plaguedoctormuffin 3 года назад
@Samuel Olesek 😳
@someaustralianguy4807
@someaustralianguy4807 3 года назад
You brung pain to me
@trr94001
@trr94001 3 года назад
It was definitely spinning its wheels with no coaches. Clearly in need of every bit of lead that can be crammed inside.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah you're right - crazy isn't it?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@someaustralianguy4807
@someaustralianguy4807 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains Found a 25 something think gram lead lump you can have it could fashion a new boiler out of it.
@CplBurdenR
@CplBurdenR 10 месяцев назад
Could weight be put in the well tanks? or replace them with some weights from say a Lima diesel? Or is it a sunken cost fallacy at that point with the coreless motor and the badly painted details etc?
@andcrafter4790
@andcrafter4790 2 года назад
Is there an easy way to determine how heavy a loco should be? I have seen a few charts that suggest certain weights per length of different cars and coaches, but none for locos.
@MrSparkies
@MrSparkies 3 года назад
Can't you send this back? Not fit for purpose? Also, Bachmann customer service / PR department for comment?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I could, but I decided to keep it - I'd rather use it for videos! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@joshryan5890
@joshryan5890 3 года назад
That triang valve gear burn had me hurting from laughter so much, spot on video sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha thanks mate - I was pleased with that one! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Год назад
Your videos are so entertaining, lol!
@andrewknights1304
@andrewknights1304 3 года назад
I must admit, it is the first loco I have seen that slip light engine. Come to think of it, the model brings a whole new meaning to that phrase. Thanks Sam.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha I know - I've never seen it before - it shouldn't be possible! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davldcooksey4137
@davldcooksey4137 3 года назад
Don't cry Sam, you have warned all your subscribers to keep well away, well at that price anyway or maybe any price, has ever great review of a not so great loco, 👍👍👍👍👍.
@davldcooksey4137
@davldcooksey4137 3 года назад
Hello Sam, have you ever done a review on a Bachmann class 57xx ? .
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha thanks David, yes that's the only good thing about it!! No I don't think I have! :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 3 года назад
"Plastic tat" I laughed hard
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha! I'd laugh too if I wasn't furious! ;D
@PayasYouListen
@PayasYouListen 3 года назад
Sam turning into the Ashens of model railways.
@PebProductions46
@PebProductions46 3 года назад
As someone who is new to the hobby, I had this relatively close to the top of my wish list since I figured it would be neat to have such a pretty, new model. After your review, it is clear to me that I should spend my money on something else. Thanks, Sam! I would have fell for their trap if it wasn't for you.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Peb - yeah I wouldn't recommend this, nice as it looks! You can spend £118 elsewhere and get a MUCH better quality model! Welcome to the hobby - don't be disheartened by stuff like this! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lewiscartwright3609
@lewiscartwright3609 3 года назад
Hi Sam if you don't mind me asking but does any of your rolling stock make a squeaking sound because I have a Triang hornby full brake coach which seems to make a very annoying and very obvious squeaking noise i gave the wheels and axles a clean but it still squeaks and I only had it about almost a month and this is the only one that seems to make a squeaking
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah sometimes they do - a tiny drop of oil on the bearings should fix the problem! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lewiscartwright3609
@lewiscartwright3609 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains Thanks for the advice and I love the videos also I was planning on getting a Beatie well tank but after watching the video that you did on the beatie well tank i think i will that it a miss if Bachmann would have used More die cast on the model Then i would have thought about maybe getting one
@TrainmanDan
@TrainmanDan 3 года назад
A project loco. As has been said, looking for any space to add lead shot and you have to love the wave in the frame. This would be another reason to stick with old-school Hornby Dub-lo!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Dan, there may be some room for extra weight, but certainly not much! Good old Dublo! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@turokforever007
@turokforever007 3 года назад
I don't know why but ivor the engine popped into my head during the intro.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yeah, others said that too! xD
@fawzig1648
@fawzig1648 3 года назад
Woah this loco is really cool the detail and color are so good! I am loving those wheels too!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Glad you liked it mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@p674mle2
@p674mle2 3 года назад
Great Vid Sam i was looking forward to this review since u mentioned it in ur stream yesterday shame its so poor in some aspects cause the real train is beautiful especially in that livery
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - yeah it's no good is it? At least now we all know! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@josecordoba5621
@josecordoba5621 3 года назад
Thanks Sam, I was considering to buy it as it's such a beautiful looking loco . But I even picked up on a few problems that you didn't mention, although reading through the comments many others did as well. Even if it reaches an incredible low price, its a no from me. Great review, thanks for the heads up on this lump of shite.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Jose - you're right - others have spotted things that even I didn't see, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@foraminuteforaminute4056
@foraminuteforaminute4056 3 года назад
9:14 The highest quality aspect of the buffer beam seems to be the dead spider. This is the United Airlines of model trains, I must say.
@Surfliner450
@Surfliner450 3 года назад
United Airlines isn’t actually that bad
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yeah - what's with that?!?
@lucaknight_
@lucaknight_ 3 года назад
Ok new question would it be plausible to run a dcc loco on dc and would there be any negative effects or such
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yes you can run DCC locos on DC, provided the feature is enabled on the decoder! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@thefountainpendesk
@thefountainpendesk 3 года назад
Congratulations on 90k Subs, 10k left to the big 100k
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - I know - that's a scary number of people! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Rowan66109
@Rowan66109 3 года назад
When will you add the Xmas intro?🎅
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
December ;)
@Rowan66109
@Rowan66109 3 года назад
That's next week :-)
@kingarthur4532
@kingarthur4532 2 года назад
I'm surprised by this review, Sam. I have two of these locos, pre-oredered from the original batch, and they are both excellent performers. They run smoothly and faultlessly despite their tiny wheelbase on my electrofrog points and they respond perfectly to my ProCab controller. I have also seen several running perfectly at exhibitions (Remeber when we had those?). Unless Kernow or Bachmann have changed the specs from the original, I suspect you have a duff one that should have gone straight back where it came from. You still have time - see below. My models cost £99.99 new, which was fairly expensive even then but the Beatties were Kernow's first venture and they would not have expected massive sales. In line with general Chinese loco inflation, the current price is probably what one would expect although I'm sure that whatever deal Kernow have struck with Bachmann, the latter will have asked for a healthy premium for their services. I think this might have been the smallest model of a prototype steam engine that had been attempted at the time of it's release so some mistakes were probably inevitable. It is particularly lightweight, I suspect, because space that could have been used for extra weight was kept available for speakers. Surely a stay alive capacitor would help here, although th engine was roundly praised in all the hobby mags, especially for it's pickups. Mine will pull six or seven wagons and a brake or a Hornby Maunsell 2-set, which is all I want them to do. Remember how old the protoype was and what duties they undertook in real life, especially during their 60 years at Wadebridge, and they really are out of place doing anything more. Even in their previous life as London subarban power, they were only hauling rakes of lightweight wooden four wheelers (Imagine spending a 12-hour or more shift in that tiny cab.). There is room for a tiny bit of flattened lead under the cab roof - every little helps. Standards and expectations, of course, have been raised in the last 10 and more years but I agree that the loco is not as good as it might have been. However, there were a number of locos from the first decade of 2021 that were less than perfect, not the least of which were Hornby's dreadful T9 where the motors were glued in place and the Mazak parts cracked, rendering them useless. The 0 298 body could have been better, especially the rather gross safety valves and I don't think DJM quite got the shape of the Drummond dome right. However, modellers have always tried to improve on what they have and once the only option for many, many classes was to buy an expensive, limited release whitemetal kit and spend ages buying extras (Often this included wheels and chassis!!) and modifying or replacing less than perfect parts as you went along. Proportionately I suspect these whitemetal locos, especially big ones, cost much more in real terms than today's RTR offerings. Surely it's an easy enough job on the 0298to remove the plastic originals and replace them in brass. Re the continuation of the splasher curve across the inside of the cab, was this something to do with mechanism clearance issues, or perhaps production problems. Anyway, it can be disguised with a couple of crew members. Whilst it has it's imperfections, I'm not sure it's entirely fair to downgrade the whole product when your review model was obviously a faulty one. Personally I don't think modellers make enough use of the Sale of Goods Act or it's successor, the exact name of which escapes me. This states that any goods offered for sale, online or otherwise, should be of merchandiseable quality and fit for purpose and that it is the retailers responsibilty to ensure this is so. A model railway engine that does not run properly (and that includes Bachmann's speciality, wobbly wheels.), or fails after a few months with broken wires or faulty brushes, should be returned to the seller under these provisions. If the retailer refuses to co-operate, get Trading Standards involved. As a footnote I would also add that I have two of the DJM /Kernow mainland 02 0-4-4Ts and lessons were obviously learned. These are absolutely beautiful model engines in every respect.
@rynodynomyte2755
@rynodynomyte2755 3 года назад
Beautiful and cute model Sam! We’re lucky to have two preserved examples!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Ryno - we are indeed! :D
@Daniel-bj4kd
@Daniel-bj4kd 3 года назад
All style, no substance... looks great at first glance, but looks can be deceiving! Your videos are so helpful. Thanks again, Sam 🙌🏻👍🏻
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Danny, appreciate it mate!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@theeveningstar9235
@theeveningstar9235 3 года назад
Such a shame about this model. The real ones are so lovely. Honestly, it pains me to see such a gorgeous class of engine be so badly represented in model form.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah you're right - and this means other manufacturers won't touch it too :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MrDavil43
@MrDavil43 3 года назад
Got to say that I'm perfectly happy with mine....it doesn't exhibit the faults you found and it hauls 3 Maunsell coaches on the level without slipping. And that's a load that would max out the real ones.
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin 3 года назад
Only default this engine have not : square wheels. Everything else is a Chernobyl-like disaster, to remain polite. The GBP 18 Smokey Joe is better to this one in every point of view. Hornby manufactures Railroad locomotives that looks far more better than this one. Bachmann/EFE had put the bar of the standard for naff models ten notches higher, they only have Heljan as a competitor on the marketplace for this kind of pieces of kraft blatantly overpriced. If you PAY me GBP 118/132 €, I would accept to run one, I'm short of Southern small tender engines. And at last what is the motivation to put a spare part for a traditional chinese sailing boat like a coreless motor in this one ? On N scale models, you have a motor that heats less and have a better yield, you can easily imagine the up side of such a choice, like putting a more powerfull motor in a smaller space. But for OO ? And, especially if you kill it with a laughable drivetrain : split chassis, the return, hurrah... One explanation I can put forward to the attitude of Bachmann might be the policy they have to select their managers. I had seen a video on the differences between japanese and american automobile industry before coming here, and I have learn something interesting. CEO of Honda and Toyota, the main japanese car manufacturers, are always former engineers and they apply the concept of kaizen, which can be translated by "continuous improvement". Those people looks for the best quality at the best price for their products, and carefully looks at the customer's demand to do so. In the USA, CEO of Ford, Chrysler and GM are financial experts who are just looking for best profit possible and reducing cost anyhow. That is why american cars are now daft products. I think the CEO of Bachmann might be a financial expert, and not an engineer, that might explain why the prices skyrockets and the quality goes down.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha correct! I'm just gobsmacked by this quite honestly! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@russellbenton2987
@russellbenton2987 3 года назад
Thanks for explaining the Well tank thing, never realised that . EFE Rail ,reheated models from commissioners such as Kernow and Heljan at Bachmann prices . Trouble is people will buy them, thus making them think they can continue to increase prices. Coreless motors cheaper , simple as that , although no doubt people will say it’s to give you space to include sound .
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Russell, yes it puzzled me for a long time too! Agreed, silly stuff isn't it? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SuperJacob2006
@SuperJacob2006 3 года назад
Great Video Sam And That Engine Looks Awesome And I'm Turning 15 When My Birthday Comes Up
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks a lot Jacob, hope you have an amazing birthday! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@tinkiwinks
@tinkiwinks 3 года назад
If this wasn’t so expensive, or if it was made properly: this would’ve actually been quite good.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I agree! For the right price, this could have been a nice beginner/budget model. But no, greed ruined it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@gkjsooley
@gkjsooley 3 года назад
You were too generous on quality, mechanism, and value.
@drpeterpunch765
@drpeterpunch765 3 года назад
I completely agree. I thought Sam was very generous in his ratings. Send it back Sam - why would you waste shelf space for this toy!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha maybe you're right Kenneth, though remember 5.63 is a very bad score from me - that puts it 57/62 on the rankings! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids Год назад
As a suggestion, what will a shaped piece of lead do mounted in the open section in front of the motor
@alicetrainz6853
@alicetrainz6853 3 года назад
Very beautiful engine always wanted to see one myself hope you have fun with it
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks mate, yeah it is fun to run! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Wingedarc
@Wingedarc 3 года назад
I really hope you are sending that model back, it is just not fit for purpose and is totally unacceptable! I honestly feel your rating was just way too high honestly but that is just me.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah, it's unacceptable, but I will be keeping it, as I always do! You may be right, but don't forget 5.63 is a very bad score from me - that puts it 57/62 on the rankings! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Wingedarc
@Wingedarc 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains I guess it will serve as a momento to how bad their locos can be and a good thing to look back in a years time and have a chuckle at, But still I can't help but feel bad for you with that insane price tag on it, What is worse is when you look at locos you have been reviewing currently they have been great and then this thing comes along and ruins everyones day, haha Have a good one though man and great work on another great video.
@Pirate-Scorcher-1998
@Pirate-Scorcher-1998 3 года назад
Brilliant review I’m looking forward to see the royal Scot review video soon
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks mate, hope you enjoy that one! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@traintimeboy
@traintimeboy 3 года назад
Awesome dude, can you do a double header video next? Love your vids!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks mate - that could be fun - good idea! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 3 года назад
Hi sam just watched this review again and not sure wether you noticed the front wheels were dragging along, also quick question does the 14.4 mm gauge apply to rolling stock aswell as I want to pick a gauge tester 🙂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah they did drag along - I've seen lots of videos of them doing that too - they're just not well balanced! Yeah, the gauging applies to rolling stock too! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@amiga1200T
@amiga1200T 3 года назад
My question is not related to this video, but your knowledge on model railways is greater than mine. I have bought the 14th edition of the Hornby track plans book and on page 50, layout 3/14 compact corner, what looks like to me a short circuit problem with the Y return loop going in and out of the station. Do you think this is the case?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Hmm, I don't have a copy so I'm not sure - is there no description with it, to explain how to get around the shorting issue? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@amiga1200T
@amiga1200T 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains No mention in the description about the potential for a short. going to contact Hornby. Thanks for your reply.
@TheMidlandTerrier
@TheMidlandTerrier 3 месяца назад
I bought one of these yesterday at Ally Pally and found it to be rather decent regardless of the weight, it had a good 4 laps running on the TMCs test track.
@benhanson3601
@benhanson3601 3 года назад
Look at the safety valves I’m sorry I didn’t realise I stumbled into Thomas the tank engine! Laughed there haha thanks for reviewing was debating on getting this, I certainly won’t be now!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha!! No problem Ben, definitely not worth your money at the moment! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ZeeTheNerdyVampire
@ZeeTheNerdyVampire 3 года назад
Something else I've noticed wrong with it too. Is it me, or does the running board have a slight bow downwards towards the rear of the loco? The cab doesn't look level back there
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yes! I think it does - so many others have mentioned that too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@acethejester
@acethejester 3 года назад
coaches, no. goods train, maybe cause the trucks are a tad lighter than coaches right?
@MorrisHillmanProductions
@MorrisHillmanProductions 11 месяцев назад
What I noticed when you performed the crawl test was the front bogie kept sticking. Perhaps this might have caused the aforementioned wheel slip?
@tarbogamer5867
@tarbogamer5867 3 года назад
I have the LNER A1 pacific 1470 "Great Northern" it's a beautiful locomotive from what I remember, I've not had by model trains running for years. You should do a video on it!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Oh wow, that sounds amazing! I'd love to! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@highbrookendmodelrailway
@highbrookendmodelrailway 3 года назад
To be honest, I have no words for this model. No, I'm not so impressed that I can't speak, I'm so disappointed! Also thanks for the mention in your stream the other day, very kind of you indeed.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha, I'm super unimpressed too! No problem - keep up the good work! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Sckuttle
@Sckuttle 5 месяцев назад
Question sam:do you now what liveries this model comes in?
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 3 года назад
I like the bit where you said it made it with two coaches while it was spinning the drive wheels and the front leading wheels stopped a few times. At least now you know why the box was plain.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yeah!! I guess you're right! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@eforster9480
@eforster9480 3 года назад
sam would you recommend this im thinking about getting it and is it good for the £118 would you recommend the version you reviewed or the other one. :)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
No overall I can't recommend this for £118 mate! Though I hope you enjoy it if you decide to get one! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@eforster9480
@eforster9480 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains thanks sam i probably wont get it but what would you reccomend instead
@callumb1049
@callumb1049 3 года назад
About 2 years ago at the nrm i was lucky enough to have a break van ride because one of the well tanks and even got the opportunity to cab it
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Ooh very nice!! Any huge splashers going right through the cab in real life then? :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@callumb1049
@callumb1049 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains hi sam yes the splasher is there in the cab that is accurate
@halfofacouch2397
@halfofacouch2397 3 года назад
When Sam said, “ I didn’t know that I had stumbled upon Thomas the Tank Engine”, regarding to the safety valves, I felt that
@halfofacouch2397
@halfofacouch2397 3 года назад
Lol but seriously, even with those safety valves, the locomotive looks really nice in my opinion. Just make it cheaper, Bachmann!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha!! They just looked like Thomas ones! xD
@plaguedoctormuffin
@plaguedoctormuffin 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains "xD"
@adammac.1342
@adammac.1342 3 года назад
Stupid question but are different liveries different prices, if they’re the same engine?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I think they're the same price, yeah! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@thiruraj3866
@thiruraj3866 3 года назад
It’s so detailed and good looking
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Sarcasm intended? ;D
@jimmythemineengine3585
@jimmythemineengine3585 3 года назад
nice work on the video sam :D
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Jimmy! :D
@gayburrito5353
@gayburrito5353 3 года назад
I really love it!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah, it looks epic doesn't it? Until you get close ;) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@nicholassammons3881
@nicholassammons3881 3 года назад
Is there a way to add weight to this model?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
You could, though there isn't a great deal of space inside! Merry Christmas - Sam :)
@TC_5670
@TC_5670 3 года назад
I'm with you Sam on the review, yet other reviewers seem to be happy with them. Easily pleased I guess? I believe this is the Kernow / DJM model from a few years back, hence the coreless motor. Thanks for the review.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks a lot Trevor - others may well be happy with them, that's completely allowed! I've always got to be honest though, I think that's why my videos are quite popular. Appreciate it mate! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@JustinFrazier_360
@JustinFrazier_360 3 года назад
Amazing video
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Justin! :D
@the4tierbridge
@the4tierbridge 3 года назад
Just wondering, will you return this one too?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
No - I don't return models - they suit my purposes regardless of how bad they are. If I returned one bad quality model, I'd have to do for every manufacturer otherwise it'd be unfair. I don't have time to do that :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Poliss95
@Poliss95 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains Don't have time to return all the bad models? That says a lot about the quality of British outline models.
@TheTurtleyOne
@TheTurtleyOne 3 года назад
Hey Sam! I think it would be cool if you made a video on some T Gauge models, the smallest commercially avalible model gauge. Really I just want to see you marvel at how tiny they are.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks! That would be awesome, I've often wondered about those! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ivanrussell4183
@ivanrussell4183 3 года назад
Is a square splasher version proposed ? or !
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yes, there is a square one too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@britanniaolivercromwell5006
@britanniaolivercromwell5006 3 года назад
What is the most surprising model you had and was it better than expected or worse
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Ooh that's tricky - probably that Mehano Cargo Train? :D Merry Christmas - Sam :)
@peterkneissl3358
@peterkneissl3358 3 года назад
How much lead could you fit in the boiler?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Not a great deal - maybe some! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@matthewpeter
@matthewpeter 3 года назад
Sam do you know what Bullfrog Snot is? Beattie would be a good test review case.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah I have heard of it, never tried it though! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 3 года назад
Is it as bad as the last one?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Basically, yes! Though the last one kept cutting out too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@therowdyruffboysdizzledude5260
@therowdyruffboysdizzledude5260 3 года назад
Where can I find these
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Check British retailers- many of them stock these! Thanks for watching, Sam :)