New Fallout TV Show Images Have Me...Worried 

I'm currently producing a series on the Full Story of Fallout 4. I'm about halfway through. You can watch it here: ru-vid.com/group/PLX3Sax_xs4WQLzrm-usenWm_qO02YubJ8&si=LdEI1LCE_ex070sW

I’d have given the ghouls colored contacts, make the masks slightly thicker to give a more rugged and rotten skin appearance, and I hope they do the pack a day smoker voices.

I would have loved an anthology series. The among the best parts of Fallout is uncovering all the stories of people before and after the war. Stand alone episodes exploring those types of stories would be awesome and give the creators vast latitude.

Yaaaaay can’t wait for them to reveal the “we didn’t consume any fallout media before making the show.” And “We wanted to reach broader audiences”

Genuinely worried if they didn’t do the bare minimum of research on the brotherhood for a major part of the plot 😭

Also, the ghouls don't look nearly as ghoulish as they're supposed to be.

The town looks almost like a combination between Megaton and Diamond City, I hope we get a proper good look at it when the show airs. I will remain cautiously optimistic.

Im so glad you were wrong. The series is the best video game adaptation ever so far

its possible that theyre saying that the brotherhoods job is to bring law and order to make it a somewhat reveal that theyre hoarding all the technology as a plot twist. like at first you think theyre ok and then you find out theyre not, the characters start hating maximus and eventually forgive him when he fights the brotherhood, cliche cliche cliche. but eitherway it has potential to be not bad

The fallout fanbase is famous for how graciously we deal with inaccuracies in the lore, this will go well

to be fair, when captain kells tells you about the history of the prydwyn he also mentions it isn't the only ship of it's kind but it was the biggest and most advanced

The problem with these shows is that the screenwriters they hire either have no idea what the source material is, or they were just casual players who didn't pay attention to the story.

Honestly, I'm not mad at the description of the Brotherhood as having a "mission to bring law and order to the Wasteland - and will do anything to further their goals". That is their mission, their public one. It's not like the Prydwen blasts "We're here to take your shit", they say "Do not interfere." and "Our intentions are peaceful". The mission that the highlighted part of the caption states is how the Brotherhood would define themselves. Their stated mission and their unstated goals are two different things. I feel like highlighting only the first part of that sentence kind of misconstrues any deeper meaning of the caption; a meaning they really tried to emphasize by putting a hyphen right there.

I’m surprised no one else has mentioned on any other video I’ve seen, but those BoS soldiers have a RED emblem. The only faction I know that has a red emblem is the Appalachian chapter that originated from a reinforcement detachment from lost hills. Now we don’t know which leader was chosen canonically or what their end goal was, but it’s still interesting.

After seeing the article and photos I'm not any more worried about the Fallout TV show than when I simply learned the fact that there would be a Fallout TV show. Take that how you will.

It came out and it’s actually really goood

welp. show was great.

as an LA native there MANY airplane graveyards in the deserts around LA county, there's totally a good chance of settlements being mostly structured from salvaged airplane parts. Love your points in this video, im always skeptical of the game adaptations hollywood makes

Being an aviation technician that lives in LA it’s possible for a town to be make out of plane scrap seeing as there’s a boneyard in Victorville California, and the most famous I think is the one in Mojave. I guess they would just need an explanation on how they transported it unless they just used scrap from LAX.

I think it can all be explained by the idea of it taking place in various locations across the country. Starts in California and moves around from there. Maybe they're trying to adequately cover places from each game instead of trying to focus on only one location. As long as there's enough detail and time spent in each, that sounds pretty cool to me.

I mean, to be fair, a lot of flights were going to be in the skies over the US when bombs fell. It's entirely plausible that scrap cities were built around other airline debris that fell in places like Philly. Megaton had the distinct feature of having an unexploded nuclear bomb at its center, and that really wasn't showcased here, so I'll cut them some slack on that front.

The town you think could be Megaton, I think its actually Junk Town. Junk Town is a town made of junk, scrap cars, and planes. Its located on the Westcoast and is a trading partner to Shadysands.

The best case scenario at this point is we get a decent story in a separate canon. Unless they just decided to hide the NCR from all marketing, not having any presence from them in the literal city they were founded in can only mean the writers want to tackle the "aesthetics" of fallout and not the lore.

Not gonna lie, saw that guy in Power Armor wielding that FO4 abomination of an assault rifle and all I could think was "Oh you poor bastard... you're playing vanilla." Someone get this guy a replacer mod stat!

If canonical end to F4 is the Brotherhood one, Prydwen still exists. It is thus possible that east coast Brotherhood either send Prydwen - now renamed for this mission to aid the west coast Brotherhood and that base is their new forward position in the NCR. Or maybe they built a copy from whatever they salvaged in the Commonwealth but that first option would make more sense. So renewed hostilities between NCR and the Brotherhood might go on in the background of main story.

I can only hope that the BoS character in the article is uniquely, naively optimistic. That he's a strong believer in the BoS being a force for good, even as behind his back a paladin is ripping an old lady's toaster out of her arms.

That fallout four assault rifle is giant af😂😂😂

lol this aged like milk…the shows great!

This aged horribly

When it comes to the Brotherhood, I think it could also be read as that’s what the new squire THINKS they’re doing and all about. It notably says “his belief” in the mission, so it could be his plot line where he slowly starts to discover they aren’t what he thought they were.

I think the whole "Brotherhood bringing law and order" blurb might just just be a slip-up for lack of a better term. They just told somebody who doesn't know the games well to write a few paragraphs, and so the gathered what they could mostly from context and a few wiki pages, and so he just assumed the roll that the faction might be playing. I also think that it could makes sense for the prydwen to be back on the other coast if the Brotherhood had managed to recruit enough new knights local from Boston, that they could just leave a chapter of the faction there to hold and monitor the area, while the Elder and his core crew on the ship returned to California. Maybe the name's been changed because they had to replace pieces of the ship on it's return journey, and so the whole "Is it still the same ship if everything's been replaced." thing came up, so it's a way of making it a "different ship" While still acknowledging that that's what the went to Boston in in the first place.

this aged like milk

I hope Caesar's Legion makes an appearance

Something to keep in mind is that Bethesda probably didn't write the article in Vanity Fair nor the synopsis you found on Amazon Prime Video. Also in some of the leaked photos (I know, they may not make the final cut) there is an NCR flag in the background. I hope you are right. This TV show needs to be lore friendly. My only hope is that because Todd Howard has been involved in the production of the show that it will be cannon.

The problem is that the directors are inheriting an amazingly rich and thought out story and thats going to be hard as shit. Sadly because its so hard they seem to be grabbing the iconic parts of the games to try to make more people watch it. It is definitely going to be hard to create a unique experience that can seperate itself from the original games while staying inside the confines of a previously madr world. I hope it becomes really good but adapting a story to a new format will always be hard.

No one checks the information. All companies see is a cash grab of an interesting product.

Lmao the show has gone on to be one of the best show adaptions to a game. And sales and interest for the game rose 7000 percent

Worth mentioning that "scrap city" looks a whole lot more like Morgantown Airport. Specifically where you run collision course than it does Megaton. Also the power armor logo is 76 colors.

It could be that in those 9 years Maxon returned with the air ship having taken some damage en-route. After a major refit the re-christened the ship with the new name. Maybe. All taken together does start to scream about a lack of attention to the details of what is already cannon.

Nothing to worry about, the show is fire

You sure did screw up on this one.

you said it man... it's cautious optimism for me too. i really want this to be good! one of my main complaints about what i saw from the previews so far is the ghoul... he looks like they took him out of the microwave too early. like come on rip his ear off or give him yellow sclera or something, he looks way too clean. this ghoul is undercooked!!!!

I'm at hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. i'm not sure how many more times i can get my heart broken by studios who don't hire real fans to help on the show

The Rey and Finn vibe I'm picking up from the Lucy and Maximus characters has me worried too. I sincerely hope I'm wrong

Show is fantastic!

i would love to see a series just based in the vaults. it would be amazing to see a horror/fallout style series all of the experiments and messed up incidents form each vault.

I'm hoping they described the brotherhood in that way to not give away too much to people who maybe have never played the games, but want to or end up, watching the series. It would likely be a twist to someone who doesn't know that the brotherhood is bad in those ways, finding out that they are bad at the same time the vault dwellers do. But idk.

For thoughts on what their plans might include: don't forget, Lonesome Road does include an option to nuke the NCR, possibly alongside Caesar's Legion, so it's possible they'll be canonizing that both got nuked, possibly with some sort of main FNV ending that boosted the Brotherhood somehow (since afaik there wasn't really a "let the Brotherhood take over" I'm guessing Independent would be better for them than House?). Also, given how there is a glimpse of a horse rider witnessing the bombs drop, I'm betting that's the ghoul they're frontlining. In any case, I'm skeptical but not sure what to think so far.

The majority of these comments aged like mayo on a hot sunny day. 😂

I’m gonna give this show an official: “We’ll see” We will see if it’s terrible.

Turns out it was a masterpiece

It looks like it will be exactly as I thought it would be, an original post-apocalyptic story with a fallout skin

Literally heard every single one of my fears in this video. I'm praying real hard that the show turns out great and that right now we're just being show the most familiar stuff to attract people who mainly played Fallout 4 and aren't into the lore.

Get the New Vegas team on this series, they've got enough months to turn it into an awesome show.

Power Armor looking like god damn cardboard, flopping.

I have a feeling this is going to be another failure. However, not for reasons of either malice nor incompetence. This one fails on the alter of economics, I think. The production company had no idea just how much they'd bitten off when they decided to chew on this particular IP. So, to help combat that I think what's going to happen is a combining of the Brotherhood with NCR into an amalgamation faction that resembles neither in the end. This will, I feel, divide the fandom into factions of their own. Rarely a good thing for a franchise. I hope I'm wrong. I don't hold out a lot of hope, considering the recent track record of the entertainment industry, but, as they say, hope springs eternal.

Todd Howard has already stated that the story in the T.V. show will be canonical.

hey that's an issue, the Pridwin being up and running means they are striking off endings to fallout 4, if they aren't careful they may accidentally create a true ending to fallout 4, means the institute didn't win and the railroad didn't win

Finnaly one of these is wrong. This show makes me all happy inside

THANK YOU! Thank you for bringing up the cars.They have gone to extreme lengths to get the visuals so accurate, yet the cars have been a glaring over site. Here is hoping they will be a CGI add in during post production.

I can see either a star or writer of this show saying something like "we aren't trying to remake the game in a TV show. We are trying to imagine a new fallout." Like i really think someone is going to say this at some point

The show is good.

It's funny to hear now a PR manager of Bethesda criticize Amazon's error. Seems like your direct channel works too though.

2:15 - Us nerds like to forget that not everyone is like us. Promotional material like this is written for the widest audience possible, including people who have no clue about Fallout. So this doesn't mean they don't understand the lore, it means they break it down for people who have no idea what "technology cult" is supposed to mean. Also, even though it's not explicitly their goal, the Brotherhood absolutely views itself as the sheriff of the wasteland.

Fun fact the lost hills on the west coast is actually a real place located in roughly the same area in the game… however nothing is out there accept a bunch of oil wells

Lol goofy

I hear what you're saying about the Brotherhood, but it's possible that after hoarding technology for so long they might eventually make a move over NCR and CL's progress as a faction. Maybe even for fear of a new Chinese invasion. It will be disappointing if they overlook everything and change their direction without a good story to back it up.

I strongly suspect it will get ruined by ESG and people who simply aren't fans of the franchise and thusly don't care enough about the lore and the Canon to do the due diligence and get it right 😢 . And I really love the fallout games to be honest they are one of my favorite franchises and I really hate to see be handled by people who expect to treat it like some unknown or some Network specific original series that has no pre-existing Canon or lore. But still 🤞🏻

I’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts on this. In all seriousness, they really should hire you to make sure they’re doing it justice. Great video as always!

I know this was posted a month ago but that is one plane just one and you forced it in your head that is was megaton not just a town that has a plane nose also the east coast brotherhood probably had their scribes archive their designs for the Pridwen then when they linked up and reconnected with the west coast they gave them the designs the brotherhood on the west coast most likely controls Maxson in the NCR and made it a place that is a large reinforced area with lots of technology they started to work with the ncr after the second battle of hoover dam because the courier probably canonically helped the ncr and all factions that can help and with their combined strength sent Caesars dogs packing and probably choose the diplomatic approach when dealing with the Legate after which hoover dams technologies where understood and the plans and stuff was given to the brotherhood they also got technologies from the strip, divide and other such stuff, they where also given direct access to the technologies the ncr had found at navarro use new materials they now had given they became very powerful but in return for the stuff they got they became apart of the ncr, they are required to do good for their fellow citizen and human alike so they have to help, they share their technologies to others and allow people to be apart of the brotherhood they serve the brotherhood as their spot in the army like marines in us army but they also serve the ncr as a soldier brotherhood have missions that are their own thing because in the ncr that is their job to explore new places that have been scouted by rangers they find useful gear and tech and erect outposts of key importance where it will then come under control and be used by their direct superior and them the ncr and this all happens before the Pridwen enters the commonwealth meaning nothing in fallout 4 has happened yet.

The ghoul should have a raspy voice too

The stress rambling from ox 😂 I do the same every time I try to explain the lore to my friends

What I wish producers did more often is hire dedicated fans who have made themselves into scholars on the games/books they are trying to adapt into movies and shows. Just from this video alone I've learned more about the Brotherhood of Steel across the Fallout franchise than I had known before. Well done, Oxhorn.

Although it is very possible that this show will totally mess up every bit of lore, because nowadays scrrenwrighters usually don't care a bit about the source material, I find some of these "worries" pulled a little bit from the hair. Just because we see a couple of plane pieces used to build a town wall it doesn't mean the town is Megaton or something similar. Using car wreckages or metal scraps from airfields to build town walls is pretty common in the wasteland if the community is big enough to do it. Regarding the BoS, in the East you are right, they returned (once again 🙄) to their "good ol' habits". But in the West, "canonically", the NCR won against them in California. The only way they could have survived was if McNamara in Nevada changed their habits and accepted to cooperate with the NCR to patrol the Mojave, which is an ending you can get in New Vegas. Maybe in the show it is this faction of the BoS we see, even though I agree that not seeing any trace of the NCR in the trailer is strange.

and the show turned out to be peak, you all got silenced

I love your takes on this, and some of it sounded VERY stretched for making it work. But overall, I agree with the "wanting to see new things" idea. I want the show to be great, but from what we've seen, I'm preparing myself for the worst. I hope it's good, though.

I wouldn't worry too much about the description of the BOS its probably an obfuscation meaning they act like they want to help people, for example their announcement to the region when they showed up in FO4, and then it will be a twist to viewers not hyper fans when it is revealed they aren't "good guys" in the show. It seems like these captions are written as the way the MC/Vault dweller perceives them in the beginning, not how they actually are. The NCR is probably still in power and will be mentioned as you know the governing body, but the government don't mean much out in the untamed areas. They can claim all of California BUT did they tame all of it enough to enforce their power on everyone at all times?

i would actually argue that defecting from their original mission is more 'brotherhood' than their actual mission, lyons, veronica, and rahmani come to mind

Nothing to worry about. The show released with good reviews

I have mixed hopes about this series. Todd Howard says it's canonical but that is doubtful.

I think they are very worried about a backlash if they tell the same story with all the same details but get it wrong by the fans of the game. The tv and movie side seem to always do a “based on”, or adapted line somewhere to say they had the “essence” of it but didn’t want to “retell that same story but to create our own”. It also allows them to expand it and create more story lines, like side quests that are now more center stage. Many books than have been made into tv and movie versions are a little off, or abridged versions of the print. I do hope they don’t screw it up.

2:05 Wouldn’t it be rather the NCR that that tries to bring law and order to the wasteland?

The only fallout in this series will be the audience reaction

The thing that bothers me most is that they clearly only have one power armor costume. You can see the identical battle damage on the chest plates of all them since they were just copied from different shots.

If you go take a look at the vanity fair article you will find a quote by Johnathan Nolan that describes the brotherhood as “ a mutated version of patriotism religion loyalty and fraternity.” He also mentions that the brotherhoods interest is in obtaining and hoarding technology. I would trust the directors understanding of the plot and factions over whoever wrote this article.

Didn't aged well to all your nay-sayers eh?

i think the series wont be part of the main fallout lore, they will create their own lore in a kind of parallel universe picking the best parts of the fallout universe and make their own and unique story. and i think thats not that bad of an idea. the negative side is we wont get any new lore from it, the positive side is we can see an alternate history fallout story with all our favorite places and factions.

They should of just hired Oxhorn he would of gotten the lore right 😂❤️

I was REALLY hoping to see the NCR or atleast something other than "Brotherhood is 1st priority" content. I agree with your concerns.

Hey! This just came up on my feed. I first came across your channel for a video explaining how settlement attacks work. And then I remember binging all of your Fallout lore videos. I don't remember how many subs you had back then, but it's awesome to see you're at 1.5MM and doing well!

Gods damn it!! When I heard the name "Maximus," I thought he was going to have been a survivor of Caesar's Legion!! I guess they thought a Brotherhood Scribe would be just as exciting a role...

Well, i remember a time where there was rumors going around on these streams where it was theorized that Oxhorn was a consultant for this series...

It could be that the article just simplified or misunderstood things. The pictures look cool I am curious for a first real trailer hopefully coming soon.

Considering in some images we can see red uniforms on some of the brotherhood, my guess is the outcasts will in the show in some capacity, and that may be why the brotherhood description is off. They may not want to tip their hand to who exactly we are seeing in the trailer.

They will then introduce the Enclave as a tribe that still doesn't know how to make a fire and is very kind towards outsiders XD.

Did you love how we made Masterchief into "John" in the Halo TV Show and had him lose his virginity to a Covenant spy? Then you'll LOVE what we've done to the Fallout universe!

I share your concerns about BoS, especially with a clue I just found in New Vegas. OSI Director Thomas Hildern (Camp McCarran) tells the Courier he is working on a solution to prevent food shortages and mass starvation “in another decade or so.” Could very well be a hint about the state of things in the NCR in 2296, if they failed. The East and West Coast BoS may reunite to finish the war while NCR is in its weakened state.

I had (and have) my doubts about this series, they could have picked ANY location other than those which already appear in the various games, Florida comes to mind, keeps it relatively isolated without having to borrow factions, vehicles and, as you point out, WTF locations like Megaton. This was a major misstep, as bad as if they had included Diamond City as a town in California. As with all TV series, they chose to ignore canon and went with brevity, A) Because it's cheaper and a little easier to write and B) Because they feel the average audience would get too confused having to keep track of too many factions, stories, etc. I predict the rabid fans will watch this series, until the bile rises in their throats so high they switch off in confusion and disgust. It's "Kolchak- The Night Stalker" all over again- MUCH too hard to keep that suspension of disbelief hoisted aloft, so they just try to throw everything which gets an "Ooh Ahh" reaction and see what sticks. However, I WILL give it a chance,just in case I'm wrong, but it comes down to "movies and series made form games are made by those who never saw the game(s), never played the game(s) and whose only real interest is in pandering to the built in fan base.

One correction to note, Prydwen is not the only frying airship that BoS has. Kells from Fo4 also mentions that there were some failed attempts by West coast chapter to build a flying airship but they were supposedly destroyed. What I think is that, they might have scavenged what they from those failed model to build this one. Also I think, between the events from FNV and F4, West Coast chapter of BoS might have been exiled by NCR and they might have shifted to some prewar military base outside of California. That's where they might have build this ship and made a return in this TV show.

The show might take a turn like other video game adaptions where they don't really follow the story part of the lore but takes pre-existing things like factions, creatures locations and turns it into its own thing rather than strictly following the lore