Cool video, it actually helped me on questions on how engine EV and petrol would sound when you push it. So thanks for this little test, which actually was very useful.
In pure petrol mode it is still using electric power unless the battery is totally empty. You can also see on the power gauge at the right showing at least 140KW while the petrol engine only has 150HP/110KW
I gave the acceleration some research as I was a little bit disappointed after my test drive. It seems the "problem" with the roundabout 9 seconds can be found in de power-curve or management of the electric engine. You cannot find thing around the internet about this "problem" - but if you compare the VW Passat and the Kuga PHEV electric acceleration 0-50 you get a value about 3.3 seconds for the VW and around 5 seconds for the Ford. When flooring the pedal from zero The Ford builds up the electric power much slower than de VW (and also Skoda and Seat). The VW wants to spin the front tires, the Ford does not.
and that is no doubt just in the programming of the computer - once the tuning guys get their hands on it, they will no doubt be able to tweak performance.
Im driving a kuga and noticed the same thing. From like 30kph this things really pulls, but from 0 it doesnt want to spin up its wheels, so it applies quite little power...
in most true hybrids the smaller battery ( a GOOD thing) only helps at very low speed and for cruising at stable speeds like on the highway as soon as an effort is required to ascend or accelerate strongly it takes a backseat and it's again a good thing, the only type of cars that have a future are this true hybrids aka HEV where the battery is used to reduce fuel consumption without making the vehicle a disposable e-waste gadgets and btw PHEV = EV they have 90% of the EV downsides and do not recharge while you drive ! HEV doe not PHEV
Good review once again, and the acceleration is not too shabbby! Slightly better than the Puma, which I thought would be quicker. It definitely showed electricity being used in 'EV later', but it showed some text seeming to suggest it would preserve 60% of the electricity for later, so maybe it just uses the excess energy until it reaches 60% then goes on to petrol only?
As far as I'm concerned and as it was explained to me - EV Later should mean that the car stores all it has got in order to use it when you need it/want it. For example when you're planning a trip to a distant city with a no-emissions zone and you want to enter that zone, you switch the EV Later to get the chance to store all that electricity till that time. I believe that 60% of charge might not be often enough for many people. This is theory though.
@@VToldsMotoShow Sure. Thanks for the reply. It was definitely using the battery in 'EV Later', so maybe it is just that when you put your foot right down hard (like in the maximum acceleration test) it uses the battery almost like an emergency acceleration mode just in case you really need it to get out of trouble; that would make sense. Thanks for doing the tests. It convinced me that it isn't too slow for an every day car. I am very close to ordering now - I am just waiting for the dealer to give me the best price! There are some good discounts at the moment in the UK, including Ford paying the first three monthly payments.
I´m looking for a new car, and next week i´ll be testdriving a Phev Kuga. In some information guides i read its an e-Cvt, some others say its a 8-step automatic. When looking this video i can conclude its more like an CVT. In older cars i dont liked the CVT gearbox cause is sund more like an sewing machine, i'll hope this is far better now. 90% of the time i dont accelerate this hard you shown us here.
the reviewers who say 8 speed auto either have some sort of "test" car, or they simply didn't check, dont understand and got it wrong - it has an e-cvt which is not the same as the terribly well know failures with belts used in Nissans - Ford should have used a different terminology perhaps, as the e- cvt does not use belts. It does accelerate quite well on the open road for passing.
In the acceleration on EV mode it is showing over 120 in the power gauge on the right. How is that possible when the car is supossed to have around 90kW (130hp). It looks it is showing HP/CV instead of kW. By the way, can this gauge be configured to show the power on HP/CV? Thanks for the video.
I'm not sure it the electric engine is rated at 130 hp, I've seen 110 hp somewhere. Indeed that's mora than over 120 kW that has been displayed. How that is calculated, I truly have no idea. That's one of the things that I couldn't get too. I also haven't tried to switch to horsepower instead of kilowatts but I'm pretty sure that if there's such an option, you can take a moment and check it in the ower's manual - Ford provides manuals to all their models online on main national websites. These are very good questions though!
Hi thx for the video. Would you still get the PHEV version or the petrol? The phev performance is disappointing compared to other PHEVs like rav4 305hp and mazda cx60 350hp, no AWD and eCVT ! Too much drawbacks.
Not sure "ev later" uses only petrol engine...look at power display...combustion engine is only 112kw...but it seams to be bigger. Try to use mode where you can see both engine working together. Cos...acceleration time is the same for every mode tested exept 'ev now".
I've got to tell you that now I'm not sure either because how could the time be the same? However, in theory it cannot - I mean - it's not allowed to use electric power in EV later and EV charge modes. Technically it could not use it then. I remember I was also checking whether it was consuming the range left on EV and it was not, so in fact it seems like it wasn't using electricity. This is really interesting and I'm going to check with an engineer at an earliest opportunity.
@@VToldsMotoShow waiting for it...hoping my kuga phev will arrive soon too😜 Maybe the answer is that battery used in Ev mode is only 10.3 kwh instead of 14.4kwh that is real total capacity. I suppose that powertrain can use those 4 kwh ...but i'm not sure.
@@fofo1999tcs sounds plausible, at least in Finland they market the upcoming Toyota RAV4 PHEV as having the same performance when the battery is depleted. That must mean not utilizing the full capacity in EV mode, and maintaining a "base level" for temporary use in an MHEV fashion. As Ford supposedly shares the engine and hybrid technology with Toyota, I guess they take a similar approach with the Kuga. I feel it's a bit of a pity they didn't manage more outright performance with the Kuga, BMWs with the same system output do 0-100 km/h in sub-7 seconds. I guess having all the power go through the CVT is holding the car back, but hopefully it at least means better fuel economy with the battery depleted. Also, a shame about Ford saving on the interior, even compared to the Focus which it's clearly based on. Not even the Vignale version gets proper door trim, I feel it's a bit of a missed opportunity. Still, I'm looking forward to getting my Kuga Vignale PHEV (company car), although that will only be in September or so. Thanks a lot to @V-Told for the videos, I like your approach, quite informative in a different way compared to most reviewers.
@@andreasperret i am on the edge to take this KUGA PHEV in top trim with all possible option or a middle range MERCEDES GLB with a 150CH diesel...lol they have the same accélération...which is funny when we see 150 vs 225 HP. But more importantly there is a 400€ difference per month (200€ finance difference and 200€ added tax for diesel vs hybrid on my personal company)...though I still consider the GLB because the interior trim is from an other world compared to this kuga which really feels like 2017 and has 0 wow factor for a 40k€ car !
Really useful thanks. I do like it but the 9.2 sec time puts me off, I'm used to a faster car and I'm worried it would annoy me! Is the overtaking ability a bit better?
I was once used to quicker cars too, until I got a company Mondeo that does 0-100 km/h in 12 seconds. After almost crashing myself multiple times while trying to overtake, I simply had to change the way I think about driving a car. I will never say that I got used to that as it's a shame for a normal car to give such performance but the conclusion is that after that thing, switching for a couple of days to this Kuga made it feel like a performance vehicle and suddenly driving a car was fun again. If you'd like to find a way, get yourself a 1,5 diesel Mondeo with 120 HP and then jump into Kuga - you'll love its performance. 9-10 seconds to do 0-100 km/h is not insanely quick but it's manageable. As for acceleration during driving, I'd say it's actually pretty good as it reacts quickly due to an electric motor. So this gives it additional benefits in terms of overtaking ability.
@@VToldsMotoShow hi thanks for the response, really interesting. I guess the only way to find out is to live with the car for a few days and try it in different scenarios. I have a test drive booked when lockdown ends...whenever that is! Cheers
It's actually impressive that it can go 206 kmph compared to other Hybrids. Toyota has a max on 180 kmph. But 0-100 kmph are disappointing when it's a 225 hp car.
@@jasperordrup 0-100 is definitely disappointing for 225 hp, but it seems to pull quite nicely up to 200 km/h. What seems odd, is that the 0-100 time is the same in hybrid and petrol only modes. 🧐 Maybe there is a limiter for total drivetrain torque?
@@calculus77 could be. I do not know if there is a Torque limit on the Ford Powersplit e-CVT Drivetrain but ford only claims the NM of the Petrol Engine for 200NM and about 175NM for the Electric Engine. There is no number on the combined system torque which would undermine your point :) Edit: i found an Site were the Torque Curve is monitored: www.automobile-catalog.com/curve/2021/2962565/ford_kuga_vignale_2_5_plug-in_hybrid_4x2.html seems like it is limited to 300NM
Co sie dzieje z Volvo? masz jakies newsy jak teraz jeździ? sentymentalnie włączyłem V8 na customie aż się serce raduje to był naprawdę prze kozacki wózek.. szkoda ze sprzedales :/
Nie wiem jakie są jego obecne losy, ale śni mi się ten samochód po nocach do dziś. Strasznie mi go szkoda, ale przynajmniej na co dzień obecny właściciel może się z niego cieszyć. Miałem wyrzuty sumienia, że Volvo tak stoi i stoi w garażu. Kupiłem sobie za to głośniki Yamahy do domu - też tak z sentymentu do produktów Yamahy (silnik V8 w Volvo).
Maybe i ma wrong but It seems that in normal and in sport has similar acceleration. Do you agree? And also beetween only fuel and both toghether...how Is It possibile
I think that it may be true if you floor the car. Then not that many will present any difference between the modes. Usually a sport mode makes the car react differently to throttle. Simply the same amount of travel of the pedal results in a more significant input of the car.
No, I sold the Volvo in September 2018. Years passed, times have changed and I had to get rid of it, which I do regret. Unfortunately I didn't really have much choice. I now meet it only in my beautiful dreams - better than nothing.
Hi, thanks for a kind comment. As for motorcycle content, I'm planning on starting a new series of videos here. I'm in the middle of an another large project and once I'm done with it, I'll get back to motorcycles. I don't think that there will be moto vlogs in the understanding of riding and recording that though. Motorcycles have become very hard to get and the industry doesn't understand the power of online presence so yes, you may test ride motorcycles, but if you pay the dealer. Nonsense...
@@VToldsMotoShow Talking about motorcycles; is your Vstrom still alive and kicking? Your videos made my buy one 4 years ago and i'm still in love with it.
Define a quick hybrid! But yeah, it's not a high performance car. No one said it would be. It's all about savings and protecting environment, isn't it?
@@VToldsMotoShow erm there are a few fast hybrids out there (BMW 330e, Audi A3 tfsi e 245, VW Golf e to name a few). No idea why this ford is so slow. Cheers for the video though
Co najwyżej archiwalne, bo autem cieszy się już inny właściciel. Komentarz zobaczyłem wczoraj i aż mi się to piękne auto dziś w nocy przyśniło... Dziękuję!
@@VToldsMotoShow Ale szkoda :( Na jednym z filmów powiedziałeś, że zostawisz go sobie jako klasyka, a tu sprzedałeś :o Szkoda, bo dźwięk tej V8 to był miód dla uszu :)
I have no problems to get up to 85-90km in the City in summer when its warm and I drive it efficiently. When you drive it like shown here, of course it will be less😉
And it's a much heavier car than the Golf. That's how it is. Some manufacturers tune the engines that they're quicker than others of the same parameters. It's also about torque, weight, gearbox (lots of influence here!) and about power losses through drivetrain etc.
V-Told VW passat hyprid is the same weight and has a 1.4l motor. Only difference, the motor is a turbo. It makes 0-100 in 7,4s. Ford done something wrong with this Kuga hybrid. System power or not, you do not sell a car with 225ps and is so slow then. You are better off with the diesel then with 190ps and with 8,6s.
@@VToldsMotoShow yes okay, but that obnoxious high reving sound is really annoying even in this 3 minute clip... can't imagine it in real life.. how was that?? could you travel at like 150km/h long distance without getting crazy with that sound?
Now that's a good question. At constant speed, the RPM goes down since the transmission adjusts. It only sounds that crazy when you push it and it goes to higher RPM. I don't remember that preciesly now but 150 km/h is not a very high speed for this car, so it should be manageable for it to stay quiet. No worries I'd say. As for the rest - I do agree that it sounds in an annoying way. There's a solution to that though: an Explorer PHEV with 10 speed gearbox and a V6 under the hood.
@@lifestyle4dividends776 i drove one - yes the e-cvt does drone but only accelerating HARD - once at cruising speed its very quiet and a nice car to drive - its very quiet around town too ...
I am wondering whether it's losing much because of being front wheel drive instead of AWD. It sometimes spins its wheels. Perhaps this influences the time in some way.
Haha - jest na to lekarstwo... Tryb w pełni elektryczny i dźwięk "science fiction" - pięknie go słychać w drugim filmie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r5VDSzSerHo.html Ciekawi mnie jak by V8 brzmiało z CVT.
