New Glenn: Building the Road to Space 

I'm a critic of BO but you are correct it is nice to see some more progress on New Glenn. Hopefully we can see the race, Elon to mars & Jeff to a Von Braun Station.

@@_mysilentblue2227 looks like they spent more time designing and building the building then the rocket lol

@@PimpTwzt Well I hope they get something testing soon to distract the FAA, EPA, and the Greeny Weenies, maybe divide their time between SpaceX and BlueOrigin.

They are slowly creeping toward space. Sure to get there after the moon base is built.

@@PimpTwzt you know that building and rocket design is done by different people?

I'm honestly surprised they didn't block words like "lawsuit" and "SpaceX"

You and I are not their target audience. Its all the people who want this to play out in Congress. Blue Origen is nothing more than a hi-tek tax farmer.

Jeff who?

reading this after postin my own comment :-)

Lol!

Agree. There is no need to be polarized. Three orbital launchers are better than two (SPX and Rocket Lab). I would just like some more 'real' content instead of this PR fluff (but then, I'm a penniless nerd and won't ever be a customer).

@@iamjadedhobo agreed! This is a bit fluffy, but its a step in the right direction. The more we can get them focused on making a quality orbital launcher and less on suing and messing with the GAO the better off everyone will be

Current public opinion has zero impact on Blue Origin's long-term plans

@@dsdy1205 Maybe, but look at it as a non-linear system with feedback: it can respond in wholly unpredictable ways. A strong negative public image might reduce the engineering pool from which BO can select talent. Without striving to be, BO can end up as a company where only lawyers want to work

@@iamjadedhobo You might be right there

So true lol.

You will be even more surprised when you learn about project Jarvis.

@@johntheux9238 Oh may be, but for the moment BO are good to talk about project without doing it lmao

Many companies go straight to flying without a prototype. Firefly did this with its Alpha rocket recently while Astra did the same. New Glenn is being built up as a full rocket top to bottom with the ability to carry payload, which the Starship prototypes cannot.

@@Nowhereman10 Yes i got this, but for the moment the New Glenn dosent fly, like the Starship, so the New Glenn is not the most capable rocket with a potential 45T of payload. The Starship is, but its hard to admit :)

I was just about to comment this. She is def reading from a screen.

Falcon Heavy expendable is not a fair comparison if you're talking about reusable rockets then it's how it stacks up against a Falcon9.

Expendable Falcon Heavy is not reusable, it is... *drum roll* Expendable! At the moment, all active rockets can put more into space than New Glenn or Starship (they are both far from being finished)

FH does not have nearly the payload volume

Also SLS and long march 5 and 9 can put more payload to orbit

NG will have a larger payload capability than Falcon Heavy. Do your research

@@OSUHARDING1ATECHNICEXPERIENCE How about Starship?

@@OSUHARDING1ATECHNICEXPERIENCE Falcon Heavy isn't the largest rocket that SpaceX is building. Do your research

@@OSUHARDING1ATECHNICEXPERIENCE you cannot compare a operational vehicle to a vehicle which is in its initial development stage. Then have you heard of Starship.

@@OSUHARDING1ATECHNICEXPERIENCE Falcon Heavy (expendable) has nearly double the payload to GTO. Is that enough research for you?

In America

Their PR isn't the problem. They just don't have much to promote.

I mean, it's a private company. They don't have to give us anything. Doesn't mean I will get excited over this, but they don't owe the public anything.

@@hafor2846 "They don't have to give us anything." And they pretty much haven't.

The best PR? You mean the cheapest, right? Just build a rocket on the beach next to a highway where every youtuber can point a camera at whatever you're doing (making sure there are huge labels on every part you manufacture) and once in a while walk around the yard with a fanboy (hi Tim :-) Just like Tesla, zero PR budget :-)

@@paulsto6516 Which means we got what we deserved

How?

So no other company should innovate because SpaceX has done it already

​@@constellation-sj8xn Of course they have to because someone changed the game. But they're not the ones who originally changed it

@@constellation-sj8xn You missed the entire point. The video plays like they are leading the world in this. Falcon Heavy in expendable configuration puts more payload to GTO than New Glenn can. Starship is fully reusable and puts WAY more than New Glenn can even dream of. NG is only partially reusable. Cost to launch NG is going to be absurd next to a Starship. Just like FH vs D4H. Raptor engines have flown. As far as we know not a single BE-4 has made it past testing. Despite being a year behind schedule now and holding up Vulcan. Bezos loves to talk about how NS was the first reused rocket and compare it to SpaceX. Which is an idiotic comparison as SpaceX is launching orbital class boosters, not the little hopper NS is. Don't get me wrong here... I hope Blue succeeds. Competition is great. Having more than one idea is good for everyone. But Blue is doing literally everything they can to NOT succeed and to be perceived as a bunch of dicks at the same time. This video tries to show off New Glenn as a production item. It isn't. That factory shot... those are pathfinders, not flight hardware. They are so far behind, yet they produce things like this to try and look like they're competing on the bleeding edge. NG competes with Falcon Heavy, not with Starship. And Starship will fly well before Glenn does. Hell, even SLS is going to beat Glenn to orbit.

Not sure there’s a significant market for this rocket, unless it’s really cheap. There’s not much call for massive payloads unless it’s a constellation or military. f9 is big for most of its payloads, neutron sized well but either will handle most of the market and the regular ride shares. Military contracts are sewn up. Europe will use ariane 6 or Soyuz for political reasons. NG will need a constellation contract or a price that’s as cheap as Falcon 9 or neutron to be competitive.

Well said

Management teams for these millionaires really are weak. I can see company like Rocket Lab quickly gaining ground, they are so focused.

Falcon 9 was in development for 8 years and it's a much smaller rocket that was not reusable from the start and used rather simple Kero-Lox engines. It was an enhanced copy of existing technology bascially. You still don't develop rockets in a year or two. Blue Origin could've probably started with a much simpler rocket design and work their way up from there but why? They don't really need that as they are fully funded. Blue Origin will like SpaceX mostly launch their own payloads so there is not really much they lose. People also put way too much emphasis on the first orbital launch. It's always the first that matters. In reality what matter more are the 100. and the 1000. orbital launches. By postponing the first launch by a couple months or years to make changes, they could save decades down the line when it comes to the 1000th launch. That's how they (should) think. If you just save 10% time/cost per launch vehicle that 10% stacks up exponentially into the future.

@@KsNewSpace Hah, copy/pasted from the lengthy excuse sheet from Blue? Face it, your employer is slow, unfocused, too risk averse to truly innovate, and runs a toxic work environment, as is recently exposed. When you attempt to compare The Phallus to Falcon 9, don't forget, Bozos had a working rocket when SpaceX did, as evidenced by their solid land landing (suborbital) before Falcon (orbital) had successfully landed at sea. Nice try with the FUD

@@alstud1 I live in Germany dude and that's my own opinion.

@@alstud1 Bro really??? 🤣 since when was a toxic work environment exposed? My dad absolutely loves BO, and people in his crew quit SpaceX to work at BO because of how stressed and overworked they were. Idk if all of the employees, but I know a whole bunch got a 40k bonus just because of the new glenn launch.

@@britonk what new Glenn launch?

Well said.

Ya if they are able launch that rocket by 2055

Except SpaceX already does it cheaper than anyone else. I seriously doubt BO will cause SpaceX to drop prices to be more competitive. It's SpaceX that will force BOs prices honestly.

I agree 100%

I couldn't agree more. I root for all the space companies.

As an American I’m cringing at the classic example of revisionist history…

@@c4sualcycl0ps48 It happens all the time, as a kid I had a book about space & it made out like Explorer 1 was the first artificial satellite, completely ignoring Sputnik 1. Bear in mind, I’m British & said book was written & published in the UK 🤨

Russian tank turrents are launched, not much else.

Maybe a new team.. the idea of hiring will shattner and dictate this amazing reaction did work out really well too

crying in laughter

@@lazararck7627 true😂😂

or orbit :-) let's not forget about orbit!

@@unpaintedleadsyndrome Ofcourse, how could I forget ;)

Oh..yeah? Calling my lawyers for more lawsuits and we will see

From toy to vibrator

I hereby revoke your SpaceX fanboy "status" you heretic! :-)

@@unpaintedleadsyndrome I am also an SpaceX and Elon Musk fan boy, yet I still would like to see BO do something meaningful; other than full time litigation for losing.

Nothing would make me happier to see BO do everything they loudly boast about in their press releases. Alas the only movement from them is snide Twitter posts mocking their competitors and law suits. It's proving VERY hard to like them.

@@mlc4495 Remember Elon's July 1st orbital launch date?

Congratulations!

Don't support this company

You better hope they won't work you to death cause knowing how Jeff is,That's why I heard that blue origin employees quite and they went to SpaceX instead cause they don't work you to death and they are way ahead of its technology than blue origin technology which SpaceX dragon orbited around earth for 3 days that blue origin can't even do yet,I rather you go to SpaceX cause people their are more happy their than blue origin, cause what ever Jeff wants build they have to build it unlike Elon Must he is different cause he wants all different design spacecraft and which can hold up to 100+200 like starship which people can have room to go into,and they will go to Mars while Jeff let's his customers have a joy ride and go back to earth.🤷‍♂️

congrats, good luck on your job!

I hope you like it here, try not to drown in the dumb comments on vids like these 😒

They do quite a lot actually. But it's mostly empty.

@@N0Xa880iUL Primarily on legal papers.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BwSts2s4ba4.html

It does seem to be picking up lately.

This is the second major update about New Glenn this year and the fourth in the last three years.

More mockups?

Don't get excided it's just a prototype.

@@amirm3621 Oh man, now people can't be excited about something? Please haters stop.

Starship is like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight

@@NassimSYD American moment?

@@virusstudio7115 Always has been

@@NassimSYD **gun shot**

Not entirely true because Starship is a launch vehicle made to operate within an atmosphere and with heavy paylad up top. If you build a vehicle that is only made to do things in space there are many superior designs. Mass and delta-v are everything and Starship is terrible in that regard. It compensates its poor efficency with sheer size. So Blue Origin can build a much smaller and lighter vehicle that is much more efficient that can practically do the same. The criticm about Starship being an upper stage attached to a payload fairing is not entirely false. You just don't need all that structural integrity and mass in space. It's an incredible waste of energy / resources. The best solution in my opinion would be if SpaceX would design some kind of ulta light third stage for Starship that would detach from it in LEO. Starship itself would remain a fully reusable super heavy lift vehicle to LEO. What SpaceX did was essentially to help fund Starship using NASA funds by developing a rather impractical and expendable lunar variant. But I get it, it's free money, so I understand why they are doing it. If they get away with it good for them. I'm not against Starship. I'm just against the curret Lunar Starship.

How about some engines?

@@paulsto6516 Yeah, fr. That should be top priority because not only do they need them for New Glenn, but they've got a customer (ULA) with major contracts on the line for the U.S. military and such! #WenEngines

Even in this RU-vid promotional Blue Origin can't help but lie. They say that New Glenn will be capable of delivering more payload than anybody

@@adamanderson3042 Yeah they're acting like Starship doesn't exist... although it exists for them in court. 💀

@@donaldmunro4186 It becomes even more ridiculous when you learn that not only does Starship put more into orbit than New Glenn, but so does Falcon Heavy in expendable mode. So when they say they're developing a rocke that can put more into orbit than any other rocket, what they really mean is they're developing a rocket that might launch in 2023/4 that will put less into orbit than a rocket that had its first test flight in 2018.

then you gotta wait for a long time

At the rate they are moving, your great-great-grandkids may be able to see the 1st attempt.

im definitely sure that i will live to see starship land on mars but im not so sure about New Glenn

In 3069

@Amina & Hiba Shownope

That's what happens when they don't have a product

@@sebastian.stamour *Boom* ...

@@sebastian.stamour Q4 2022 New Glenn maiden launch, fingers crossed🤞

@@gyasisiaw3584 ye sure💀

@@sebastian.stamour But you see they're building it.

too many spaceX fan boy's to handle in the comments

@@mathewferstl7042 I've been following both companies since their founding. Literally. And the SpaceX fans aren't wrong really. BO makes huge claims without any actual evidence of ability to back them. They bid on contracts they have no capability of fulfilling and then get mad and sue when they lose. They make claims that ignore other companies abilities. I say they I mean leadership/marketing. The engineers at Blue Origin are fantastic top notch people doing incredible work. I hope to see BE-4 fly soon. I hop to see Glenn fly and whatever else they're cooking up. But there is a serious ego problem at the top of Blue. And while I'll also be the first to say Musk has an ego as well... you don't see him doing PR stunts without actual substance and ability to back up his claims. Not to mention the fact that SpaceX launched 75% of the global orbital payload in 2020. I love putting Shatner in space. That's awesome. But it's a completely different ball park than the one others are playing in. I really really hope to see Blue show up at the big game instead of the minor leagues. So far, evidence isn't in their favor though. I hope to be proven wrong soon.

@@mycroft16 I like some of the stuff SpaceX are, mainly their falcon 9 (starship is stupid but im not getting into that), it's really just their fans that are annoying. They're quite an irritating bunch

They're getting them. The flight engines are being built or finished up at Kent and they may be those engines seen in the BE-4 video from the NS-18 webcast undergoing an acceptance test firing. They kind of dropped a hint with "and then we send them on to their next destination."

@@Nowhereman10 They are four years late.

@@paulsto6516 And NASA is probably going to be 4 years late for the moon missions. What of it?

Ditto. I understand why people dislike BO, I dislike them for the same reasons, but Ultimately I want them to succeed. They’re really the only company other than SpaceX that seems to be seriously developing reusable launch vehicles and I’m sure most of the people at BO are great people, they’re just working under shitty management.

@@madjedi2235 Competition is also good for innovation. I wish they were further, as I think the O'Neill space habitats Bezos likes are cooler than Mars

Musk, his wife and son lives in a pre-fab tiny home in Boca Chica, lol. He's serious about the Starship.

@@Thunderbyrd. Elon Musk doesn´t have a wife (anymore) and he and his girlfriend just broke up. He is more serious about Starship than his relationships.

@@antyspi4466 Yes... yes he does. Walt once famously said that he has never loved a woman as much as he loved Mickey Mouse. For Elon... it's SpaceX. That's his lady. The man is all in in a way that's hard to explain to people on this. Watch his tour with Everyday Astronaut of the Starbase facilities and imagine Bezos doing that and being able to talk about physics and math and engineering the way Musk does. They are very different. I admire the engineers and workers at Blue. They are doing amazing stuff. Leadership at Blue needs to just get out of the way.

Tory would like that.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zgPIYT-w4zU.html&ab_channel=BlueOrigin

@@adamanderson3042 thank you for the link I don't know how I missed that one.

More like people who are concerned about Blue's recent actions

@@alvianchoiriapriliansyah9882 As well as their lack of actions in other ways.

In their lawyers dream, they do.

They did get CLPS award(cargo)

Wait! BO has any contract? Even with Amazon's Kuyper?

@@_mikolaj_ Can't imagine they would with how little capicity Blue Moon and the National Team Lander have.

@@bigsquatch little capacity? What? Your lunar rover is made of lead? If your rover weighs more than 4.5t something clearly is wrong(in case we use Blue Moon). Usual space station module weighs around 10 tons, we don't have data on ILV's descent element capacity, but i doubt ascent element is some ultra light module. Like, being able to delover several tons of cargo to the surface is already big thing. Have you ever seen what 4 tons of hardware looks like? Something like that is very useful for early lunar exploration. It's more efficient to use fishing boat for fishing, rather than a titanic, even if said big boat wouldn't be much more expensive.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say this isn't flight hardware, nor will it be. This looks like production pathfinder hardware. It also looks like it has had some set dressing specifically for the video. BO is facing a pretty serious PR crisis at the moment. They can't land contracts because they have 0 orbital flight record, yet they are trying to sue to force the contracts. Sure they can fly people VTOL to the Karman line but that's kiddie stuff compared to orbit. Over years we have seen half of a fairing and this. The engines haven't even flown and apparently there are significant delays/issues in testing them to the point it is delaying Vulcan now.

Exactly. It's a pity that so many people dislike BO because of Jeff Bezos activity. There so many engineers working hard to make this possible.

Just noticed that all the replies (except mine) were posted exactly the same time. Good work, Blue Organ employees! Hope you got a $100 bonus!

@@Tilofus We dislike Blue Organ because Jeff Beesoz is ugly and looks like an evil villain in a 007 flick...

Even Falcon Heavy deliver more payload then this thing !

progress? oh, an updated render?

Wanna bet?

@@Antares2 I wanna bet: by the time BO's crew cabin will be certified for LEO, Starship's prototype already will be on the way to Mars.

@@MrVeryfrost My predictions: New Glenn will become an operational rocket in the next 3-5 years. It will serve in the launch market as a heavy launch vehicle. If the launch price will make it competitive, only time will show. Starship will be canceled, or at the very least drastically redesigned into a smaller rocket for LEO payloads. It will never fly manned, and it will never leave LEO. SpaceX will never send anything to Mars, unless they build an antenna for the next rover or something. I would bet actual money against you if I knew you, but on the internet, you are probably a russian troll, and I am probably a chinese bot. So, I think we'll just leave it at that. Edited for spelling

@@Antares2 Falcon Heavy has already gone beyond Mars orbit and is very capable to land payload on Mars since 2018. Meanwhile when is BO going to attempt to fly to Orbit. But I wish the engineers at BO well and hope to see New Glenn fly just I also hope to see SLS fly..

@@favesongslist you need a lander to land. Falcon Heavy sent a car into a useless solar orbit. It's a looooong way from doing that to landing anywhere. Especially the notoriously difficult Mars. I hope for success for everyone, but I can't help being realistic in my expectations.

BlueOrigin was f(o)unded 2 years before Spacex. So they aren't new, nor big given they haven't launched anything to reach orbit yet.

Rocketlabs is a bigger player... heck, up till now even the 1940s Wehrmacht outperformed BO, the V2 was able to get higher and was able to deliver useful cargo over 100s of km...

I know! Reusability is the future

@Amina & Hiba Show Please screw off with your unwanted, unsolicited spam.

New Glenn in 2022? Really??? They don't even have a functioning rocket engine capable of getting off the stand. Maybe 2025?

@@stevemak8620 let's hope for the best 👍💯

StarShip has already flown and reached orbit as far as it is known in the aerospace world, but they are still working to land it, as for Blue Origin, I have seen that Bezos is filling the gym.

its like that idiot kid(B.O.) in school that thinks they're cool and ignore everyone while the real cool kid is ignoring how cool they actually are(SpaceX)

Also interesting statement considering they have never been orbital 🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼

Many aren't sure if Blue will be the suited competition

Soon? How many Starships will ahve been launched before NG makes it to the pad?

This video is from the NS-18 webcast and it also included a video segment on BE-4 showing the engines being prepared in the test stand and then fired off. Also, in case you didn't know, the flight engines for Vulcan are being built up at Kent, or have been and they may have them on the stands down in Texas right now for acceptance testing.

Blue Origin has a 'rocket engine' plant here in Huntsville, Alabama. I wonder if that engine is being produced here?

@@Thunderbyrd. If you mean the first flight engines, those are being or have been built, at Blue's Kent, WA factory. There will be production BE-4s an BE-3Us built at Huntsville and when the Stennis test stand is ready to go, and Huntsville up to full production, they'll take over for the most part, shipping the engines straight to ULA or down to Florida for New Glenn.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zgPIYT-w4zU.html&ab_channel=BlueOrigin

Methodology still used because not many companies had move on

I want to see the Angry Astronaut do a tour.

And maybe give the ULA the engines you owe them.

I liked their infographics, they're funny. They can stop the lawsuits tho

@@lapistaoftheparadise4627 They are also slanderous and inaccurate

@@schmijo Ironically enought this video is also inaccurate because not only is Starship capable of more payload but so is the currently operational Falcon Heavy, so everything 0:35 is wrong.

Showing what? This is literally the same thing that was shown 8 months ago.

Always has been

That feeling is from your good instincts and awareness of facts.

Bezos is unfortunately the one getting scammed by the bad management at Blue Origin. Poor guy.

Damn people really don't know how tax works regarding jobs and businesses.

@@Sal3600 No one is talking about taxation. I'm talking about fat government launch contracts of the Boeing/ULA variety.

Mock-up not even a prototype

@@solnol6814 You're right, I mis-spoke

@@solnol6814 So, you ignored all the hardware being built in this video? Very dishonest of you.

@@Nowhereman10 They have been showing mockup hardware for years. Put something in orbit already.

@@paulsto6516 You're lying. The hardware has been under construction for over a year now and you're pretty dishonest for not admitting to it, even with this video showing it to you.

sarcasm?

@@unpaintedleadsyndrome Nope

@@unpaintedleadsyndrome Lol

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