New HD RECORD? 2023 Ford F-350 vs. 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500HD on the World's Toughest Towing Test!

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( www.allTFL.com ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our TFLstudios content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this massive Ike Gauntlet challenge, Andre and Mr. Truck pitch the 2023 Ford F-350 Limited dually Power Stroke diesel against the 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500 HD dually Duramax turbo diesel. Which one will come out on top?
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:24 Laying out this Ike Gauntlet challenge
2:26 2023 Ford F-350 Limited DRW: Downhill
5:24 More on the trailer
6:21 Ford F-350 Dowhill (continued)
8:04 Ford F-350 payload/towing info & downhill result!
9:45 Ford F-350 Uphill test and results
17:40 Measuring squat & hitching up the Chevy Silverado 3500HD
21:26 Chevy Silverado 3500HD DRW: Downhill
26:45 Chevy Silverado 3500HD payload/towing info
28:59 Chevy Silverado 3500HD: Uphill
37:34 The scores!
40:29 Verdict
#powerstroke #duramax #cummins

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@J.W.W. 11 месяцев назад

How can watching trucks crawling up a mountain be SO entertaining?? 😂. Great job guys!

@dennissmith7214 11 месяцев назад

😆……….it always is!! 😁👈🏽

@trevorharley4475 11 месяцев назад

Cause it's man stuff lol. I have a Nissan Frontier.... Not a lot of towing capability. But when I pull a trailer I feel awesome. It's work but damn is it fun man. It's guy stuff and I have no idea why!

@JanBartos24 11 месяцев назад

Weird, isn't it! 😅

@johnrose7212 11 месяцев назад

Maybe you should do these runs with different diesel Fuels. I want to see how renewable Diesel performs.

@trevorharley4475 11 месяцев назад

@@johnrose7212 you make a good point for many reasons. Sure a brand new truck did great on its first run. Duh! Do it 50 times. That's a true test of the truck. I know that's impossible for these guys and it's not a dis on the channel at all. However I'd assume nobody buys a 100,000 dollar truck too tow a heavy trailer once..

@CharlesAnsman 11 месяцев назад

Mr. Truck and Andre on Sat. morning, Doesn't get any better than that !

@nafsucof 11 месяцев назад

it’s these and carwow drag races…great sat morning “CARtoons”

@johnrose7212 11 месяцев назад

Maybe you should do these runs with different diesel Fuels. I want to see how renewable Diesel performs.

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@brianrose8085 2 месяца назад

Watching TFL on Saturday is a vital part of Saturday

@luke7750 11 месяцев назад

It’s crazy how impressive all these trucks are. It’s so close it really comes down to which truck you think looks better. As a superduty owner I wouldn’t be disappointed if I had either of these

@CoyoteFTW 10 месяцев назад

For towing often Ford would be the pick

@Piketom1 9 месяцев назад

It also means that you can largely shop based on which truck is the best deal at the time you are buying without looking too much deeper.

@mikewarren1401 9 месяцев назад

@@CoyoteFTWrams are used more in hot shot due to Cummins

@raifparker3990 9 месяцев назад

@@mikewarren1401I have been seeing a crazy amount of the 2023 F450s among hotshotters nowadays

@mikewarren1401 9 месяцев назад

@@raifparker3990 there is no replacing a inline 6 however

@bryane2857 11 месяцев назад

I live in Iowa.... These 2 guys could give a play by play of corn growing and I would probably watch it.

@jjmaldonado21 11 месяцев назад

Mr. Truck and Andre always a great duo! “You’ve complained a lot over the past 10 years” Andrea goes back “you have to” lol awesome videos, look forward to every Saturday morning.

@TheMeanmarine13 11 месяцев назад

i agree! And i just noticed a funny typo, you accidentally called Andre... Andrea. haha it happens

@cremazie 11 месяцев назад

They go together like Meat & Potatoes!

@benjaminbrown7127 11 месяцев назад

Mr. truck standing like an npc at the end lol

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@AgentSmith911 11 месяцев назад

I live in Western Norway and am surrounded by fjords, lakes, glaciers and other beautiful landscape, but I have to say that watching the footage from Colorado really blows me away, it's so beautiful! Sometimes I just pause the video in fullscreen 4K just to enjoy the view :-D

@failranch9542 11 месяцев назад

You misspelled Ford 😅

@trentopinto5 11 месяцев назад

@@failranch9542no fjords, the geographical term. Pronounced like "fyord"

@failranch9542 11 месяцев назад

@@trentopinto5 it was a joke dude. That’s what the emoji means.

@trentopinto5 11 месяцев назад

@failranch9542 that's not how you use that emoji but okay😂

@johnhoover7869 5 месяцев назад

Norway very beautiful. How much wildlife do you see in Norway? If you ever visit Colorado take the train across the Rocky Mountains.

@Speed_and_Power 11 месяцев назад

I don’t understand how the Chevy has 225 pound feet less than the Ford, and can basically keep up. Seems that either the Ford is overrated or the Chevy is underrated.

@brucecollins8865 11 месяцев назад

Manufacturers are claiming peak torque numbers that are only available on an engine dyno. GM peak torque is at 1800 rpm, but the transmission tuning will never let it operate there, it’ll force a shift. The numbers are a silly game, what matters is how it puts it to the ground.

@madweazl 11 месяцев назад

@@brucecollins8865 You can actually lock the Ford in to a specific gear.

@vg3430 11 месяцев назад

They never stated rear gear ratio on each truck……???

@jeffs2809 11 месяцев назад

What the other people said, just because they advertise a “peak” number doesn’t mean it’s actually useful in most situations. It be much more meaningful if they’d post an average torque number or even an actual dyno chart.

@TermiteBenny 11 месяцев назад

The Chevy also did the climb with lower fluid temperatures. I’ll take 17 extra seconds to climb this hill if the components stay cooler.

@kareenbrown9404 11 месяцев назад

At $100,000 the Ford dash shook so bad thought it was gonna fall into Mr. Truck lap. I also notice no wheel well liners Ford at $100,000 and limited trim this truck should have everything plus a sink and fridge

@BC08 11 месяцев назад

That’s the camera mount vibrating causing lens distortion. Dummy

@Kevin.W. 10 месяцев назад

Whiner

@benjaminwayneb Месяц назад

The dash wasn't shaking, it's the stick-on camera mount sitting on a padded door panel.

@B-rad303 11 месяцев назад

It's probably hard for people to Comprehend that don't live in Denver that haven't towed heavy up Eisenhower how insane that pull is I do it twice a week in my semi. Hauling 78 GVVW and it's a monster

@dundonrl 11 месяцев назад

Even not towing heavy, it sucks the power out of an engine. I was driving in 2003 my 02 Honda S2000 up the west slopes (heading east) and was wondering WHY my car wouldn't accelerate any more till I saw the sign showing the elevation that I was at!

@gerritfridericksohn4627 11 месяцев назад

I took my 1969 VW Bus up the Ike. Didn't make it.

@keithhall4009 11 месяцев назад

@@gerritfridericksohn4627 my father had a 1972 one, it regularly blew up engines when my family tried to go over various mountain passes. Our family friends that also had that vehicle had similar problems. 😂

@ectolle54 11 месяцев назад

I’ve driven both directions all the way through Colorado many times and you’re right it kicks the ass of a semi. 80k with 550hp and it’s 35-40mph with the fan on and I’ve had to pull over to cool down close to the top because my oil temp was over 250

@MDKN22 11 месяцев назад

I was up there two weeks ago and drove up and down the pass and it was making it a serious challenge for the 2022 4Runner rental I had!!!

@badgerpa9 11 месяцев назад

It is always enjoyable to watch Mr. Truck and Andre on the IKE. Thank you gentlemen and the camera crew for another fun video. Love the Banks adapter for the truck. Hope you stay safe and healthy and really nice to see Mr. Truck looking healthy and young.

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@andyharman3022 11 месяцев назад

Interesting that the Ford has 30 hp and 230 lb*ft more, yet the Chevy was only 13 seconds slower up the Ike, and got better fuel mileage.

@jeraldhogan 11 месяцев назад

11 seconds...the ford time was 10:06

@CajunWolffe 11 месяцев назад

The Ford was heavier because of a different trim level. It takes x amount of energy to move x mass x distance in x amount of time. In the end game, they are so close it doesn't matter, and it's about what you like more than anything else.

@damontroch4765 11 месяцев назад

@CajunWolffe thats the dumbest excuse I've ever heard. That trim level didn't add anything substantial but a bunch of electronics. And not 230 lb ft of torque worth.😂

@geezusmeatball1328 11 месяцев назад

Heavier of what 100lbs ?

@kennetho5393 11 месяцев назад

That 0.1 mpg really isn't better. It's almost the same.

@ModernCountryLiving 10 месяцев назад

Extremely capable trucks. Just took a trip out west and enjoyed a ride up and down I70 through the tunnel. I own an F350 but you cannot deny how competitive all these trucks are.

@jessaphillips2846 11 месяцев назад

The irony of Andre driving a Chevrolet and saying that the Ford was “Like a Rock”

@Gmac705 11 месяцев назад

I am shocked at the uphill performance of the Chevy. On paper, the Ford should win by a mile. This is why factory numbers don't mean anything.

@richfarfugnuven6308 11 месяцев назад

I bought a 2022 Duramax brand new. I wanted the F350, but was told 10 months wait. I was shocked by how well the Duramax does pulling my 42 for 5th wheel through these same roads. The 10 speed Allison (in name only) does...

@mattg8116 11 месяцев назад

It did well, but those numbers definitely showed. I expect the Ram to be considerably further behind

@time_on_target 11 месяцев назад

I’d like to see what these trucks weigh. With the ford being a fully optioned truck and with 12 extra gallons of fuel I wonder if the ford is heavier?

@arbiter1 11 месяцев назад

if you look at last 10+ years you would notice that same trend. Chevy is lowest on hp/torque numbers but matches the other 2 even when down a bit on power.

@208SledHead 11 месяцев назад

I swear you fan boys can find an excuse for anything

@stevenwright6573 11 месяцев назад

I love that you guys are doing this in what I'm assuming is June. Summer heat is a thing, testing these trucks on the Ike in June is perfect. Let's us know if these trucks can pull max load up the Ike in high temps. Thank you guys for all your work. Much appreciated.

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching

@ArmyProperty 8 месяцев назад

@@MrTruckTVdo you notice a loss of boost or power at high altitudes & temps because the intercoolers are less efficient under those conditions? Thanks

@MrTruckTV 8 месяцев назад

Very little with a turbo diesel@@ArmyProperty

@ArmyProperty 8 месяцев назад

@@MrTruckTV thanks!

@eltonkingsley5617 11 месяцев назад

Andre, Mr Truck. Really enjoyed this heavyweight episode, well done! Look forward to seeing how the Ram compares.

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@pauldiesel4582 11 месяцев назад

I would expect it to be a record with all that power!

@TheMeanmarine13 11 месяцев назад

weirdly enough, ive enjoyed this video more than the last few sports car drag races on other channels. I must secretly enjoy slow moving trucks towing heavy loads 🤔 haha. Good job fellas.

@robertperciballi3357 11 месяцев назад

Me too

@030glennful 11 месяцев назад

I always waiting for this videos of TFL! Great and interesting videos all times ! Keep on doing 👌👌

@TFLtruck 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching.

@zacharyschopper4344 11 месяцев назад

Thank you guys for making wonderful videos to watch my kid's and wife enjoy. Keep up the great work

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching

@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35 11 месяцев назад

I would chose the chevy! They went into the engine and reworked it for better efficiency/ performance, and the cooling! Not to mention quiet cab

@toddbob55 11 месяцев назад

Good luck....... GM is building garbage for vehicles you would be stuck with the biggest lemon money could buy

@chuckken3438 11 месяцев назад

@@toddbob55 Ford is Garbage!...I will take the Chevy hands down...

@timtorkelson7201 7 месяцев назад

My good friend " thought he was gonna try a Ford 1 ton recently, papers written up etc!,went for 1 final test drive before buying,said he couldn't do it,Chevy felt as good and it was the ride comfort that he couldn't give up, traded his 23 in for a new 24.😊

@timtorkelson7201 7 месяцев назад

And by the way hos last 2 Chevrolets have been flawless! My friends GMC the same thing!! Awesome trucks period.

@Stevemax07 11 месяцев назад

Love these videos on Saturday morning! Does Mr. Truck ever get to drive?

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, what's up with that

@failranch9542 11 месяцев назад

For a long time he was the only one who legally could.

@mikeferguson6906 11 месяцев назад

I love you guys reviews, I really enjoy watching your reviews and the info you put out.

@scoutplatoon8410 11 месяцев назад

You guys are on fire. Great video

@TFLtruck 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the kind comment!

@FreeTimeFeats 11 месяцев назад

I will be finding my future wife by describing her the way Mr truck describes the Chevy fender 😂

@reggiekenner1527 11 месяцев назад

It's pretty but these are work trucks and those fenders are likely to be pretty damaged. At the cost of body work, bolting on a new fender sounds like function over form.

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Yes, great American thighs, I think there is a song about that

@TDub_ADV 11 месяцев назад

Banks did a pretty good dyno video on the new Duramax explaining how the new engine is making more effective and usable torque not just chasing a peak number. Its worth a watch for sure.

@declanstoyyard585 11 месяцев назад

That always seems to be the duramaxs MO, I just wish they had wider seats for my fat butt and a E-coated frame and I’d be there tomorrow

@Magucci13 11 месяцев назад

Those Ford and Dodge guys are so rara about their "high output" trims, but Chevy doesn't need a high output🤷‍♂️

@CoyoteFTW 11 месяцев назад

@@Magucci13 idk if you watched the same video but the Chevy lost like it always has it’s never beaten Ford up this climb. I agree tho Ford didn’t whoop chevy butt too bad cqorth celebrating I guess ???

@bertpulaski2492 11 месяцев назад

@@declanstoyyard585 see I’m the opposite about the Fords. The seats just feel odd to me but I’ve also got a back injury that enhances the uncomfortable seat for me.

@Magucci13 11 месяцев назад

@@CoyoteFTW yep, because that's totally worth the 35k more... For my money, the more efficient, colder truck is the one best made for the job. If you're so worried about times. Throw a tuner on both trucks and the Ford will fall on it's face. The brake thing though, I have no idea. I'd just throw it in manual and leave it in the gear I need

@kc2giw 11 месяцев назад

Finally someone just came out and said it about the bumper step. One of the best simple innovations in modern trucks…..9 years ago.

@kokocostanza2036 11 месяцев назад

More than that- the Avalanche had it 20 years ago.

@naknaksdadn572 10 месяцев назад

i have the 2021 Ford F350 dually and i love it! Yes, i watched your previous comparison videos which assisted in me making my decision.

@JanBartos24 11 месяцев назад

Noone mentioned that Chevy accelerated 0-60mph much faster than Ford?

@whistlinduramax7723 11 месяцев назад

Yup, less power less torque and still SMOKED THE POWER JOKE.

@emmanuelcharles38 11 месяцев назад

yeah, ford need to work a little more harder to beat the chevy.

@robertperciballi3357 11 месяцев назад

I agree seemed effortless to me ... plus less $ & great features. I'm wondering what the High Country trim offers 💪🏽

@KyleRichmond7 11 месяцев назад

There was massive head wind when the Ford went up hill :)

@backwoodhomi3 11 месяцев назад

and still finished 14 secs behind, not too impressive

@kenyongillespie8652 11 месяцев назад

Two Great trucks! The price for both are ridiculous.Thanks for the video!

@DonnieDarko727 11 месяцев назад

200k in a couple of years 😂

@JesseLJohnson 11 месяцев назад

The Chevy was pretty decent I think. Hell a half ton Denali Ultimate cost that much. Think its pretty reasonable being able to get a 1 ton dually that isn't optioned as much as the Ultimate but its close enough for the same price but at a 1 ton instead of a half ton

@limogesman 10 месяцев назад

Thank you guys 👍. I love tech and Ford seems to be innovators in that dept. You should of showcased the onboard scale...

@TheRamGuy 11 месяцев назад

Nothing better on a Sat morning than Andre, Mr. Truck and the Ike. I think a great show idea would be an HD dually vs a Medium Duty truck

@pryme2013 11 месяцев назад

I can think of a few things that are better. Clams, pink snapper and beaver to name a few.

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@flaman78 11 месяцев назад

Being in the market for a dually for towing, this was extremely helpful. The gauge cluster on the Ford and how it maintained speed down the hill was awesome. But are those same features available on a XL or XLT model? I’ll have to look into that. Cause i really don’t need a limited truck just to tow. Thank you once again guys. Looking forward to how the Ram does.

@LucasLeCompteMusic 11 месяцев назад

As someone who is a massive Cummins fan boy, if you get a Ram, by a 13-18. The newer trucks all have issues. I think the 20/21s were pretty good but avoid 22/23. The lifters and cams all get chewed it which is such a damn shame. Banks actually did a great break down on the new Duramaxs on how they improved a lot on the newer ones.

@leofhr2966 11 месяцев назад

Avoid newer vehicles if possible, especially Rams, they are asking for way too much in cost for the same truck design they had years ago, barely any changes made or at best a mild refresh yet are asking for prices like it was a new model Chevy. Seriously GM has actually made proper changes, still they are way too expensive but it's not like it the exact same.

@brada1997 11 месяцев назад

@@LucasLeCompteMusicI had a buddy that ran oil crews. He had 6 Rams (roughly 2018ish) crack the heads between cylinders 5-6 and were slowly spewing coolant out the exhaust, not that they could tell for a whole, though. One truck did this 3 times. He runs Fords now.

@millertime8835 11 месяцев назад

It broke down on the way there😅

@billywright4517 9 месяцев назад

@@LucasLeCompteMusic i just sold a 2017 and it had issues with ABS control module. 2017-18,s are having bad issues and Ram doesnt have a fix for this. I am buying the 2024 chevy 3500 LTZ tomorrow!

@kevinshepard1748 11 месяцев назад

I'd wonder if there would be a difference with regular cruise mode VS. adaptive cruise mode. The adaptive cruise is extremely brake happy in my 2024 GMC 3500

@takisd338 9 месяцев назад

Love your videos. Very informational!

@marcd7123 10 месяцев назад

Great video guys!! Beautiful trucks

@bozartg 11 месяцев назад

At 2.5Mpg pulling that heavy load, a 48 gal tank is a must.

@alexanderkennedy2969 9 месяцев назад

yeah so that means like 100 miles on a tank lol

@toofastnobrakes 11 месяцев назад

Great work guys! Damn good watch! I’m a little disappointed you guys didn’t grab the F450 “pickup not cab&chassis” for this run. Figured you’d go with the top dog. Still impressive though 👍 That and can’t wait to see the current HO Cummins. You guys haven’t tested it since its power bump to 420hp and 1075ft lbs

@cargotoolshop5319 11 месяцев назад

Cummins isn't known to be the fastest but it is known to have the best longevity

@moseshughes2670 9 месяцев назад

The F450 wouldn't improve on what you see here much, maybe a little faster uphill because of the shorter gears

@dougcjohn 7 месяцев назад

Great video guys, enjoy the cab chatter & truck info. The DuraMax was more impressive than expected, haven't looked at powermax for awhile, it's made great improvement. Several comments that include Big Trucks/Tractor while comparing to F350 Dually... a Pickup. At 500hp & 1200 Torque, that's outstanding for a Pickup stock powertrain. Rams were super but last 4 yrs haven't kept up... The 6.7 HO Power Stroke is currently the leader "Pickup" in power specs & tow specs, out torquing the Ram I6 Cummins is impressive. DuraMax is lowest of 3 in power specs, it may leapfrog and surprise us in a few years.

@bertpulaski2492 11 месяцев назад

These are the kinds of tests many viewers enjoy. It’s a legit real world test of a vehicle and capabilities. As much as I enjoy them though, I can’t bring myself to buy a $100k for personal use. Now if I was hot shot or construction crew, that’s a different story.

@coryernewein 11 месяцев назад

500hp and 1000+ft/lbs isn't as good as semi's 10yrs ago my friend, it stacks right up with lots of modern offerings from Paccar and DD. Very impressive ratings, will love to see the longevity of this powertrain🤔

@cargotoolshop5319 11 месяцев назад

I'm my experience you don't get both, longevity or power, or fuel mileage everything has a compromise, I have had many engines in semi trucks, but I m back to a 12.7 60 series Detroit, not for the power but the fuel economy

@coryernewein 11 месяцев назад

I couldn't agree more!

@youtubecantsaveallthesnowf8601 11 месяцев назад

I hate paccar's...

@coryernewein 11 месяцев назад

I miss my old C15😪

@erikswensen425 11 месяцев назад

Give me an ol buzzin dozen and let it sing lol

@khakiswag 11 месяцев назад

You can’t go wrong with either of these trucks, they’re both incredible and probably more capable than most of their owners (cough, no CDL,cough). I think the the Chevy has a larger diameter fan based on the height of that front end compared to the Ford, which actually looks small next to the Chevy. This allows it to run quieter since it doesn’t have to spin as fast for the same CFMs as the Ford. This also means, since it’s clutched, it doesn’t pull as much power from the engine to spin. But I’m probably the only one who likes the sound of a truck fan roaring. To me it sounds like POWWHA!!!

@metalted6128 10 месяцев назад

Fan sound , feels like power?? Really??? Nice try Chevy guy!! Typical!! Give me more power, not more fan sound. Fords power stroke for the win!!!

@2015_Rubicnn 10 месяцев назад

@metalted6128 Who gaf what you like. Dude gave his opinion on what he likes, and you gotta try to clown him with your opinion? Stfu...

@CoyoteFTW 10 месяцев назад

Ya keep the loud fan I’ll take the truck with solid front and 1,200trq

@codEagleYt 11 месяцев назад

Been waiting on this for a long time.

@henryford2736 11 месяцев назад

I used to use manual shifting going down hill then Ford did recall and recalibrated the F-150 Powerstroke based on these videos. Now i use cruise control like Andre going down hill towing my camper. This method works on the Fords....

@dieseldrax 11 месяцев назад

18:29 Those are jounce bumpers and not traditional bump stops. Meaning you still have more travel after the jounce bumper comes in contact with the axle. Those are similar to things like Timbren SES or SuperSprings.

@68061678 11 месяцев назад

They should know that as many cars as they review, definitely drop the ball some times.

@drylandman 11 месяцев назад

I know you're testing the cruise control ,but don't most people use manual mode going up and down grades or is that just me? I like to have it locked into gear and not shifting.

@kylebutler7142 11 месяцев назад

I haven't watched the video yet but I wanna give it a thumbs up already! This is like the Rumble in the Jungle ! The Thrilla from Manila ! LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE

@gregshimanek3165 11 месяцев назад

Good job. Good info

@joewalz2682 10 месяцев назад

Andre change the cruise control from adaptive cruise to regular cruise. Regular cruise will use the retarder in the transmission and not the brakes as much. It should tell you on the dash how to switch to the different cruise controls

@user-hh7no3pf2w 11 месяцев назад

I'd have to say I was impressed with the Chevy.

@ebnhahn1993 11 месяцев назад

Impressed with What!!?? Speed going up to 40 and down to 30 with cruise set at 35!!??. I dont know what you were looking at!!??

@geezusmeatball1328 11 месяцев назад

We got a Ford fan here that is a little bit mad😅 all he said is that he was suprise thats all

@user-hh7no3pf2w 11 месяцев назад

@@geezusmeatball1328 I must have hurt a Ford fanboys feelings with that comment. 🤣

@jamess3532 11 месяцев назад

I like both trucks but the only thing impressive about the chevy was that it didn't lose by more than it did. I think Chevy is very conservative with their HP/TQ numbers because that H.O. Powerstroke should have beat the Duramax by a lot more based on the advertised numbers. I wish they tested using a Lariat instead of the limited.

@uncletsonestopshop7143 11 месяцев назад

I love the video. Wonder if the banks tuner was upping the tune on the chevy or just giving you data?

@ryanmartin2980 11 месяцев назад

Awesome as usual guys!

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@jeffpierce3436 11 месяцев назад

Hey, who doesn’t love a sexy rear……… fender?! 😂 Great job, once again, to the two manliest of truck men 🤜🤛👏👍

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@blueovaltrucker 11 месяцев назад

I love my Fords...but whoa, what a price difference between these two trucks. I know the Ford had a few more bells and whistles but that's a lotta money, especially seeing how close they finished. The Chevrolets rear fenders and bigger wheels and tires looked a ton better as well. I gotta hand it to Chevy...for that kinda money I'd pick them over the Ford.

@71boss39 11 месяцев назад

There is one point us Northern people must remember. 10 years from now the GMs body will most likely be showing rust on the steel body components. That wont happen on an F series. A huge issue for the salt country folks which will affect value down the road big time. 😊

@cory9572 11 месяцев назад

Compare the same trim truck which would be Dually 3500 Denali Ultimate and price is very close.

@alfonsobernabe4291 10 месяцев назад

Same

@The-fs5wn 10 месяцев назад

To be fair, they had the wrong options for a towing test on this one. A Lariat F450 would have been a significantly better comparison to the Chevy. Two of the top-performing trucks with leather seats from each company, without a $15k price delta

@brianconner4854 5 месяцев назад

10 years my truck will have been traded 3 times so that is completely irrelevant to me. Why would you even own one of these trucks out of warrenty. And as good as the trade in is who cares about extended warrenty. Trade in, write the check for difference and keep driving brand new.

@35xcherry97 11 месяцев назад

These trucks are really incredible. I have a 22 Chevy 2500 LTZ and the 6.6 is a dream to drive. Yanked a 6k truck one time and the truck handles amazing

@powerstroke8994 11 месяцев назад

Can’t wait to see the single wheel shootout

@ohaggdah 11 месяцев назад

Excellent video guys!! Interesting results for sure.... what were the rear end ratios? I know Chevy only comes with the 3:42 option, but what about the Ford? Bet it was a lower gear, yet with much less torque, the Chevy got to 60 sooner and almost kept up for the whole run. That just shows that these trucks are all getting so powerful that a few hundred foot pounds won't really matter... it's more about mapping and how they're able to put it down. Also, gathering info from several sources, it seems the PowertStroke truly likes to run hot, which OK that's alright I guess (not that 230 coolant is comfortable), but a 30-40 degree difference in trans temp between the Chevy and Ford can't be helping in overall longevity. The other things several sources seem to state is that the Ford rear end can't quite handle the heavy load as well, and ends up on the bump stops. I will say though, it's disappointing to see that the Chevy didn't do better downhill, despite the fact that they've updated the turbo, valves, and exhaust brake to be stronger than previous year. Also Ford is killing it with the gauge game. They went from having the shittiest gauges just showing approximates on a "bar", to now by far having the best and most comprehensive gauges. Great job!

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks 3.55 for Ford 3.42 for Chevy

@mikesmith379 11 месяцев назад

Check out the Banks exhaust brake system--just by controlling the turbo vanes it's much more powerful than any factory option.

@joesainato8051 11 месяцев назад

Great video. I’d like to see it done with the gasser versions of these trucks

@TFLtruck 11 месяцев назад

We would love to do that if we can get the trucks.

@erikswensen425 11 месяцев назад

@@TFLtruckyou should do a 1 ton gas max ike for all 4 gas engine offerings (Ford 7.3/6.8, GM 6.6 and Ram 6.4). I'd say a 17k load up the ike with these engines would be the ultimate test, especially with GMs 10 speed for the 6.6 gas and the new 6.8 mini zilla. If you do that test can you do a shout out to me? Thank you for your very awesome and informative episodes!👍👍

@petesummers7047 10 месяцев назад

@@TFLtruck can you do an over lap on them to show where each truck is side by side?

@mrcowboypimp 11 месяцев назад

Since you ran these trucks under CMV regulations, and despite Ram not being present at this time, I’m surprised you didn’t call this video the “Hot-Shot” special! Liked what I did there?…one ton dullies pulling a heavy load 😅✌🏼

@paulnicholson8524 10 месяцев назад

Man that was cool thank you for that information.

@rippinrogers 11 месяцев назад

Max towing test with vans! Promaster, Transit HD and Chevy Express 6.6L gas!

@marcleibovic6879 11 месяцев назад

The Chevy passed the brake test; you did not end up on an emergency (stop) ramp 😊

@clevejason 11 месяцев назад

Love you guys - best reviewers by far

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@vancitycoaster 11 месяцев назад

You guys got lucky at the end with traffic, great runs

@billcoons2730 11 месяцев назад

Love the comparison. Have owned both powerstroke and now have a duramax. Reason I now have duramax, price. Not enough difference to spend more on one vs the other.

@Justaeuropeanman 11 месяцев назад

Actually it depends. For me that does hot shot trucking I’ll rather pay that extra money and have a better towing capacity to make more money on my runs. Pretty much thanks to the extra towing the truck pays itself. Gonna trade my 2021 GMC 3500 Dually for the 2023 F350 Dually pretty soon

@robertjohnson4784 11 месяцев назад

Awesome comparison guys, I would still take the Chevy over the ford just because of the price difference, there are already too high and almost 17000 more for the Ford and they're comparably equipped. I would go with the Chevy.

@tres311 11 месяцев назад

Chevy all day! Chevy is better truck over 100k miles! Only ford truck I’d buy is one with coyote. Diesel powerstroke should never be only anyone’s list. Dmax and Cummins know how to design and build reliable diesel engines, ford makes junk. 17k more for something that’s gonna break? Ford needs to go beg to Caterpillar and ask them to design them a reliable light duty diesel engine. Even International trucks use a Cummins ISX15 now over their Navistar junk.

@-MOYST- 11 месяцев назад

@@tres311if you’ve ever owned a 7.3 you would be signing a different tune. Very few people will actually need as much power as equipped in these trucks. All that technology is great, until the repair bill shows up. 80k for a truck…what a joke.

@khakiswag 11 месяцев назад

@@tres311I know who Cummins is and what they do but who is Dmax, what do they make? Did you mean to say Isuzu?

@khakiswag 11 месяцев назад

They aren’t comparably equipped, the Ford is fully loaded the Chevy has another trim level above this one.

@user-qq9zx1zu9z 11 месяцев назад

Chevy High Country is a $100,000 truck. The limited is the most expensive Ford. I have a fleet of mixed brands for my construction business, 3 Ford's, 2 GMC's, 4 Chevy's because I can get them cheaper than the GMC and 3 Rams. The oldest trucks are 2019 F250 and 2 2021 Chevy 2500. All the others are 22s. Both Chevy's have had more problems than the 2019 Ford. The other two Chevy's are 22s and one has had some sensor s issues but the other same year is doing great. The other 2 Ford's, one of the Ford's, same problem as the Chevy, sensor issues and the other no problems. The GMC has their share of problems and the Rams are doing great except for and guess what it is...sensor issues and every time I turn around one throws a code so I have to take it in for an update. I've had previous Ford's with issues just like anything else. It's just the way it is.

@HN-gj2iq 6 месяцев назад

I keep coming back to your channel for videos on this challenge. Very entertaining. Btw one major flaw with the mpg challenge today, which is Toyota or Honda doesn’t take 85. It only Takes 87 and above.

@mohammedalsabti3289 11 месяцев назад

You guys did a great job on comparing those two monsters and that’s what consumers are looking for before buying. Really appreciated and keep it up

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@shitloveaduck 11 месяцев назад

The information is nice to have with the Ford, but Andrey is the last guy to have it. He is so distracted as a driver at any time and then he has a dash full of distractions. When the information wasn’t there it was way less distracting. Putting it in cruise may generate more brake applications. The F350 having 3 brake applications is still really good though. After watching Banks reveal the changes of the newly revised diesel in the DuraMax 6.6, I was sold on that engine! GM made the right changes and if you have a choice between a 2023 vs 2024 GM DuraMax for similar money, jump for the 2024!! Same with the gas GM HD trucks but because they now have the 10 speed transmission. Ford also has a monster of a PowerStroke. They manage the power off the line quite heavily, but once on the move, they definitely do the job. It’s a coin flip,,, get the brand you like!! 😊

@Baumann612 11 месяцев назад

Great! Would love to see how they compare to the 7.3 Powerstroke and 6.5 Detroit Diesel on the Ike!

@cargotoolshop5319 11 месяцев назад

Maybe one that's been tuned by BANKS

@alexmills1329 11 месяцев назад

Lol a 6.5 would barely pull itself up that mountain, never mind 20k of trailer lol

@cargotoolshop5319 11 месяцев назад

@@alexmills1329 when she blows up it would leave an oil trail for about twenty feet

@cargotoolshop5319 11 месяцев назад

If you could think outside the box for a minute, one thing that has worked great for years was to run a 366 Chevy big block in a Chevy two wheel drive truck pulling a 7000 pound car trailer, you could not ask for more

@arod6789 10 месяцев назад

They were both gutless.

@chrisroy8668 11 месяцев назад

Great videos as usual and I have 3 comments. 1) Please share rear end ratios between trucks being compared, it can make a fair bit of difference. I have a ‘19 and ‘23 Super duty crew cab dually truck (identical spec trucks except gearing) with the standard output and the ‘19 with 4.10 does better keeping the truck up to speed with less power and a six speed rather than a 10 speed with 3.55. 2) It might be worth retesting the two trucks or at least the Chev once you get an understanding of why it took so much help form service brakes. Might just be the way it’s setup, it doesn’t look like the truck rode the brakes so it can’t have affected the effectiveness of the exhaust brake that much!? 3) Squat is almost irrelevant at 1/2” difference. Looks like squat on the Ford may have been measured after the run when the suspension has been worked and the chev was right when the load was placed onto the GN ball before going to the test run?. That can make the difference. Just curious. Thanks again for producing these videos, exceptionally well done once again!,👌

@TFLtruck 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for the feedback. The ford had a 3.55 rear end and the Chevy had a 3.42

@johneton6143 10 месяцев назад

@@TFLtruckI have a 19 f250 and it’s deleted and I have it on cruise control towing 20k all the time !

@woodywoodzell7746 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for putting the rubber to road, it really lets the cream rise to the top with true comparisons.

@skeetercaldwell4477 11 месяцев назад

I believe the LTZ breaking is more of a surge break application as you would do in a semi on a steep grade to prevent the breaks and rotors from overheating. I noticed it slowed to about 3 mph below 35 and ran out to about 3 mph over before initiating another break application. In the big rig I was taught to break to 5 under desired speed and run out 5 over before breaking and holding to the 5 under. Either way I’ve always been a Ford man but after 35 years I think I’m going give the Chevy a go. Great video!

@jstaffordii 10 месяцев назад

Its called snub braking in the trailer trucking world.

@OzarksWildman 11 месяцев назад

I dream about that trailer too Mr. Truck 👍

@MrTruckTV 11 месяцев назад

Yean, very nice

@kirbygoodwin5760 11 месяцев назад

Great video guys! Question, which rear end did the Ford have? They come standard with a 3.55, but a 4.10 is optional.

@TFLtruck 11 месяцев назад

This ford has a 3.55 rear axle ratio.

@brada1997 11 месяцев назад

Great guys! And Mr Truck will actually call and talk to you! I called him about a hitch i was looking at.

@duggydo 11 месяцев назад

I would really like to see you guys max out the Ford on the Ike. Maybe a run in the evening when traffic is less and it's cooler out.

@pryme2013 11 месяцев назад

They couldn’t even pull much over 40mph at the top with it pinned. What is your idea of maxed out? 😂

@duggydo 11 месяцев назад

@@pryme2013 That's why I am curious about it maxed out. Seems like they over rate these trucks.

@pryme2013 11 месяцев назад

@@duggydo it was maxed out on this test already. It couldn’t pull that grade the whole way even at 45mph let alone 60.

@duggydo 11 месяцев назад

@@pryme2013 I think it was under max on the Ford for what they rate it. Close to 10k pounds more is the max rating for that truck.

@Alex.AL_26 11 месяцев назад

This test should really have been done in a Base model XL because lets be honest most people towing that kind of weight are going to be in those base model trucks doing it for work. An upper trim level personal truck is hardly ever be towing anything that heavy.

@tyjones5019 11 месяцев назад

2 words breaks the tie. Massaging Seats! So awesome.

@johnsorensen6800 11 месяцев назад

Nice hats! No cattle. I did notice that both trucks had sun roofs, and there was still enough head room that you could wear those hats comfortably.

@trevorjurges3430 11 месяцев назад

I've noticed from owning a few GM trucks that they need brakes to cause the transmission to downshift, even in tow/haul

@johneton6143 10 месяцев назад

Ye my ford truck in tow haul brakes on its own then I use my foot when I really need to come to a stop !

@MZZHZZWZZ 11 месяцев назад

Chevy was quicker to 60, had better towing temperatures, less squat, better ride, slightly better fuel economy, more affordable, only 11 seconds difference at the top, and the fan isn't super annoying like the Ford. Throw in the price difference and I know which one I would choose.

@jgc113 11 месяцев назад

Why are u hurt? Because the Chevy lost 😂😂.

@Billybob50119 11 месяцев назад

GM is way better for far less money

@MZZHZZWZZ 11 месяцев назад

@@jgc113 Since it's all subjective I'm simply saying why I think the Chevy is the better value.

@derekheuring2984 9 месяцев назад

Did I miss something? I thought the Ford was quicker? Just so you know, I have no dog in this fight since I own a Ram.

@alexanderkennedy2969 9 месяцев назад

@@derekheuring2984he didnt say the chevy was quicker over all, just to 60. he said the difference is negligible and not worth the huge price difference

@59BigWalt 11 месяцев назад

I miss the the refill, especially when in the past those gauges were off most times.

@kevinnitti228 11 месяцев назад

I got a after market 60 gallon gas tank in my tremor and I love it!

@forceheating5472 11 месяцев назад

Both trucks are super capable. I'll stick with the GM.

@jimmyaber5920 11 месяцев назад

Squat no longer means squat. 60 inch springs give better ride but that costs in spring deflection. With the real usage of trucks, the unloaded ride quality is crucial. Ram offers air assist on their duallies (and srw too). I am surprised GM and Ford haven't offered air assist yet. It is a HUGELY popular accessory they could make profit on for lower than add on price.

@scottjeans6184 9 месяцев назад

As a commercial tire installer for over 15 years Ivan tell you those caps (flow through) are useless, and a large contributor to "run flats". ✌️Be safe...love the channel!

@torysukut9692 11 месяцев назад

Future prediction is they will rate the dodge at 4.5 stars. Because TFL cant get off the Ford wagon.

@winkdinkerson7190 11 месяцев назад

Very true!

@kkamp0528 11 месяцев назад

Someone sounds butt hurt 😂

@208SledHead 11 месяцев назад

Tell me you're a Cummins fan boi without telling me you're a Cummins fan boi

@torysukut9692 11 месяцев назад

@208SledHead not loyal to any one brand. Own all 3 brands within a year of each other. But thanks for letting everyone know where you stand little squirrel.

@gamebredduramax71 11 месяцев назад

I think the Allison transmission on the Chevy was able to rein in the power putting it to the ground better then the more powerful power stroke.

@akman1931 11 месяцев назад

From what I understand they both have the same transmission. GM and Ford Co built that 10 speed.

@jameshenson4871 11 месяцев назад

Yep and the transmission is only badge engineering. Allison only approved the 10spd they didn't build or engineer it.

@gamebredduramax71 11 месяцев назад

@@akman1931 not on the HD trucks, The earlier Allison was completely built by Allison, the newer GMs with Allison was a Co design with Allison and GM

@CoyoteFTW 11 месяцев назад

@@gamebredduramax71 Allison 10L1000 transmission is a fraternal twin of the Ford TorqShift 10 Speed 10R140. That is based on the Ford 6r140 that was used in the previous gen Superduty. In fact, the Allison 10L00 that is transmissions internal components are largely interchangeable with those of the Ford, who is the parent engineer of this product.

@benjaminwayneb 11 месяцев назад

@@gamebredduramax71 GM transmission rebadged as an Allison, Allison had no part in the design.

@caseyhackler6163 11 месяцев назад

Andre bring those trucks to show low az we have the salt river canyon that's 7 percent grade down and then back up the other side again, would be a good test.

@craigcontofalsky4387 11 месяцев назад

Great video! Can't wait for the Ram review.

@stevewainwright3344 11 месяцев назад

I don't think the different in the two trucks justifies the $17,000 difference in the price of the Ford. I mean common, you take the top of line Ford and compare it to the Below top of line Chevy and there's just a smidgeon difference in performance. I'll take the truck that cost $17,000 less every time.

@Justaeuropeanman 11 месяцев назад

Well for people like me that do Hot Shot Trucking I will rather pay those $17,000 extra for nicer interior, panoramic sunroof, more gauges to monitor how the truck is running, and on top of all that better towing capacity. The Ford can tow 10,000 pounds more than the Chevy. I can make so much more money on the Ford on one single tow and those extra $17,000 will pay themselves. Exactly why I will be trading in my 2021 GMC 3500HD that I use for hot shot trucking for the 2023 F350 Dually 💪🏻

@dieselnut2369 11 месяцев назад

@Bigbickwigga smart man ! Ford all the way ! I'm so glad that the 6.0 and 6.4 days are long gone ,the 6.7 is no joke .

@Billybob50119 11 месяцев назад

@@Justaeuropeanman everything in your comment is false

@Justaeuropeanman 11 месяцев назад

@@Billybob50119 please enlighten me what is false?

@stevewainwright3344 11 месяцев назад

@@Justaeuropeanman And what you do with a heavy duty truck represents less than 1% of the population. So, not a good selling point.

@kieferwhitener9859 11 месяцев назад

Great run!! i do believe the chevy deserves a rerun; something seemed off about its cruise?

@JanBartos24 11 месяцев назад

I agree! Please, take the Chevy downhill again!

@emmanuelcharles38 11 месяцев назад

ofcoz I agree on that too

@garys2157 11 месяцев назад

I hear some Chevys don't have cruise control.

@emmanuelcharles38 11 месяцев назад

@@garys2157 we should ask Andre about that

@jocarr1791 11 месяцев назад

@thefastlanetruck, (on the way up the hill) have you guys thought about letting off the gas, then holding it to the floor to get the transmission to kickdown?

@MrAaron5627 11 месяцев назад

That Diamond C trailer is badass! 🤑🤑🤑

@Mike-01234 11 месяцев назад

500HP and 1200 lbs of torque is what you might see in a 18-wheel commercial truck towing 80k lbs. Those numbers have been done with aftermarket upgrades but to have a emissions legal engine hit that much is amazing. I remember when DPF, and PTF filters were put on diesel trucks, and some said it wasn't possible to produce more power in a pickup engine and be emission legal.

@kobybeougher7657 11 месяцев назад

More like 1800-2000lb ft of torque in commercial trucks.

@abrahamreyes3340 11 месяцев назад

@@kobybeougher7657 and even more if you are towing 80klbs lol

@garfieldthomas8118 11 месяцев назад

37:10 Not bad at all considering 225 lb-ft torque difference

@tylermacconnell217 11 месяцев назад

It’s not bad at all, but they are close on HP. Perhaps adding another 3,000lbs of towing weight would make the difference more clear, where the extra torque could help more.

@shaunnightfire8269 11 месяцев назад

Yep, it's more about hp when it comes to moving a set load at speed.

@86willh 11 месяцев назад

Would love to see them do the same test with the medium duty version.

@StinkieManCheese 11 месяцев назад

102,000 vs. 85,000... if they are that close, and it comes down to value, that's a no brainer for going with the chevy and saving the $17,000. Add paying tax on that 17,000 here in texas, and you're at $18,105 with tax (6.5%). idk... that seems like too much extra money for something that's really close in value.

@Spoolingturbski 11 месяцев назад

I think the Chevy did really well. I think they decided that slow and steady wins the race. With the considerable price difference, not much of a performance difference, better ride and better efficiency.

@kenwolf2431 11 месяцев назад

one was the top of the line the other was a step down. So you cannot make a comparison on price.

@anthonyc1883 11 месяцев назад

@@kenwolf2431 Curious, but what is above the LTZ trim on Chevy? I've known a couple people with LTZ-level Chevys, an Equinox and an Impala, and I thought that was the highest trim level. I've never seen badging on any recent Chevy other than LS, LT and LTZ.