Watching Minx always makes me appreciate JiU more. This cute concept clearly fits her personality so easily and naturally. Her ability to adapt to Dreamcatcher's concept is amazing.
I'm 100% convinced she's a vampire (also Yoohyeon looks as cheeky as ever, maybe that's why I'm irritated: in Dreamcatcher her stage personality is really serious. But off stage she's a puppy. And in Minx she's just a puppy the whole time)
@@TheGroovyJones I know what you mean but Yoohyeon has this clumsy savage energy. Like SuA will hit you and then ignore it but Yoohyeon will call you pabo and then hide from the consequences😂she's also the only one (well, besides Siyeon) who will burst out in laughter when she needs to be serious. Idk it's hard to explain. It just fits the maknae line energy but the other three (Handong Dami Gahyeon) are more bossy haha :D Yoohyeon just can't get away with being savage (mostly bc SuA will hit her)
@moongirl8807 JiU should be considered a anti-vampire: made of sunshine instead of being destroyed by it. She doesn't drain away the blood and life from victims, but absorbs love and cheers from insomnias, and gives back even more.
As well as the girls did w/ this concept, it was the darkest time in their career, unfortunately, especially after they disbanded. Dami tried to run away, Siyeon was depressed and considered giving up singing, and when DC debuted, she wore pants for years and would only wear shorts or dresses if it was a stage outfit the whole group was wearing. Sua said she’d never cut her hair again, and it took her years just to dye it again. After they disbanded, they often cried themselves to sleep. I can’t imagine the amount of pressure Jiu must’ve felt at that time as their leader. That’s why it was so cathartic to see her reaction during their first win. They went through even more as DC, and are still pretty shunned by the K-pop industry, but they’re finally starting to reach big milestones this year like being invited to their first award show and performing at Primavera. They were the only K-pop act invited. They’re 300,000 album sales away from being the 2nd (if I’m not mistaken) million album seller from a small company. The first was GFriend.
@@Why.Just_why I can't pinpoint it, but some Somnias who Minx stans mentioned that years ago in a comment section. The girls are so candid, so I'm sure it must be a deep cut in some old note or interview. Wish I could find it for myself though :/ Not sure if you've already seen it, but recently they performed Love Shake at their Broken Halloween concert, so it looks like they've finally gotten over their depression from that era.
Yoohyeon and Dami were finishing school when WDYCTMH was released (Fall 2014). There is the cutest clip with the members going to her graduation (Google Dreamcatcher Yoohyeon graduation). Love Shake came out later in the Summer of 2015. Minx Dami was the cute maknae. This explains why Dreamcatcher Dami is different (not the maknae anymore). Gahyeon took that role in DC. Fan fact: WDYCTMH was actually a big hit in Korea. However, nobody knew who sang it....
Minx's fail was mostly because they were at the end of the 'cutesy' era and were pretty much against groups like Red Velvet, Twice, Mamamoo, Girls Generation. Minx didn't stick out from the pack with their songs and MVs. Their songs are good but in comparison to other groups who had a newer appeal, they got overshadowed.
The thing is, Minx wasn't even bad quality-wise. Whenever I see reactions, everyone vibes with the songs although they didn't expect it. Happyface has a good eye for talent and they know it. After their failure, the CEO said that it wasn't the member's fault and that he would buy them a café or work at a farm (don't know which one is true or if both are true, I heard both) to provide for them. So as much as this hasn't worked out and we try to be respectful towards the members, I really trust Happyface. They made some unusual decisions for an entertainment company. Redebuting them was so savage, maybe they were just really desperate. But I 100% respect this choice (even if Dreamcatcher wasn't successful their debut is just so bold). Love Shake is a remake of their sister group Dalshabet 's song. The rash guards (scuba) were actually the CEO's idea and I think they're the most cute and unique outfits to ever exist in kpop. Another confession, Love Shake is definitely in my playlist😳They have at least 10 other songs in their discography that are almost unknown so check that out. You should watch a stage for WDYCTMH too bc Siyeon is hitting that whistle note live every time... Oh btw SuA HATES that hair, it's her personal nemesis. She never cut and dyed her hair ever since (to this extreme, she had red ish and pink ish and blonde ish for Maison). If you want to get some more insights, I'm sure someone already recommended "Dodging disbandment and other extreme sports" by Mera. Also insomnicsy has at least one video highlighting their relationship with their staff, they're all a big family.
@FIGHFANNERD 9 yeah it's great. I'm still hoping for a new rock version from Dreamcatcher. Maybe on their 10th anniversary or something😂let's see how far we make it lol
For a little bit of background on Happyface I highly suggest watching the following video which shows parts of the selection process for MIXNINE. It shows how they care, how hard it was for them to watch the selection process and you get a glimpse how different must be compared to at least one other major company (in this case YG). It focuses on the male trainees so there is almost nothing from Dreamcatcher members in this video but we see the well known practice room. 😉 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bt5ciIFEgrw.html
@@j.w.u.5728 oh this sounds interesting, thank you. I'm actually so curious how a new group is formed and how everything works behind the scenes. I think the very simple reason why Minx ultimately failed was bc of the small company (and ok, HF didn't promote the perfectly too but still). If you see rookie groups nowadays and compare which company their from, the ones from the big 4 are so much more successful it's ridiculous. I also heard rumors that HF is building or training a new gg so let's just hope they don't repeat their mistakes. But then again they'll probably also need years of hard work to be recognised bc they're from a small company. Or maybe we'll get Dreamcatcher 2.0 with a re-debut after 2 years😂
Lee Juwon said he'd start a _cucumber company_ for them if Dreamcatcher didn't make it... I have no idea where he got the idea for cucumbers from, but let's face it, they're _all_ an odd bunch over there... 😜 Regarding SuA's hair, she _has_ dyed it quite a few times, but for the most part it's always been fairly subtle, like dark reds or purples. She did go almost blonde for Deja Vu, though, so Maison wasn't _quite_ the first time. She does have to be careful, though, because she seems to have particularly fragile hair, so she can't really bleach it too often anyway. The closest she's come to cutting it that short again was when she adopted a Hime cut (short at the front, long at the back) when she did the Tadow performance video, to match Seungyeon's. Seungyeon was so impressed, she suggested SuA should try cutting it as short as the front all over; SuA shot that idea down _immediately_ 😂
@@Brickerbrack yeah the comment is so long already I didn't want to write any more detail. I don't even know if they saw it, but you're right. I just think that it was a cucumber farm is a funny detail. SuA actually looks best in brown and "boring" hair cuts I think but I'm glad we got the pink for Maison, I really liked that. Maybe next cb we get something really crazy haha. Yes the Tadow video she looked great, she had this kpop hair style right? The one with the very extreme layers (aka short in the front very long in the back) EDIT I mean Hime cut, exactly that sorry😂. I've only seen it in kpop so far but this might actually be my favourite. Hm I'm contradicting myself here a lot but maybe she just looks great in everything😄
The CEO of Happyface admitted later on that the group failed because the company did not promote or support them properly. There was no album with their debut, the comeback with Love Shake was delayed, and the song itself was a cover of a song originally done by Dalshabet, Happyface's 2ng gen girl group. I think that if Minx had been with one of the big Kpop companies then they would be like Twice is today, but then we wouldn't have Dreamcatcher. Sua's hair. After Minx Sua swore she would never cut her hair again and she hasn't. She hated it.
Fun fact: Love Shake remains one of their best known songs in Korea since it's used a lot in Home Shopping Channels. The thing is the song is well known but the group isn't bc it sounds and looks too much like most of the stuff that was coming out at the time. There's also the problem that Happyface Ent is a small company that is genius at content and concept creation but not as good at marketing (and managing). Whatever the reason we can all agree that the switch to Dreamcatcher was amazing and while it was hard for some of them (Jiu + Yoo) it was the best for others (Sy + Dami) I'm happy you're planning to check Dodging Disbandment, usually people stan even harder after watching that
Dreamcatcher repeated it: Gahyeon turned 18 three weeks after debut. In other calendar shenanigans, Minx debuted September 18, 2014 and on September 18, 2019 Dreamcatcher released Deja Vu.
At some point you are also going to get to see the CEO of their company, CEO-nim. He's really like an uncle to the girls, and his wife is the president of the company, so it's really like a family. There were two interesting quotes from him about Minx. In the first one, he said that the failure of Minx wasn't the girls's fault, it was the company's fault. When have you ever heard a CEO say something like that? And in the second, he said if Dreamcatcher would fail as well, he would become a cucumber farmer to support the girls. Dreamcatcher is what the girls really wanted to do. I think you can feel that, and it is only right that this brought success for them. Even the first single already sold double of what Minx sold.
Haha, it's always good to see baby Somnies witness the cuteness shock that is Minx sunbaenim. Also, cute part about this is that Dami was the maknae in Minx which explains a lot
My poor Siyeon has a big trauma due to MINX disband, she struggled with depression at that time and used to spend hours playing LOL with Yooh to get distracted. She's really triggered when MINX is mentioned or their songs play
We actually consider Dreamcatcher 3rd gen (some people say gen 3.5) just due to the fact that they came out in January of 2017 (practically 2016) and the majority of the early 4th gen groups debuted in 2018. Minx is generally considered 3rd gen.
I don't even know why people still have doubts, they are from the 3rd gen, the 4th gen started in late 2017, while Dreamcatcher debuted in early 2017, I don't even know why there are people who still doubt it and gives incorrect information, so you are right to say 3rd gen, there is no such thing as gen 3.5
Plus their actual music is 100% 3rd gen in substance and style, at least as much as you can compare them to other groups. They are miles closer to Red Velvet or Mamamoo than Aespa or Nmixx.
@@insomniadongie5538 yeah when I first got into kpop I was so confused with Dreamcatcher but it's so easy. They're sitting comfortably in the 3rd gen there's no doubt. But I feel like Minx didn't really fit that and sounded more like 2nd gen. But even that is a stretch. Although again, I was confused for some reason. Ah and I did find an article yesterday, you can divide the gens more into 2.5, 3.5 etc. Maybe it's unusual but I actually like it.
but they become famous during 4th gen era. i can't really see them the same gen as bts. using ' when they become famous ' is more accurate than debut dates imo. nobody thinks of doja cat the same generation as lady Gaga despite Doja Cat debuting in 2013, in fact they think of her as 2020 artists alongside lil Nas x. similarly, people will think of Loona alongside Dreamcatcher, no one thinks of EXID or GOT7 alongside Dreamcatcher. dreamcatcher also became famous the exact same time Loona , G-idle became famous. Brave Girls is kinda anomaly but they became famous using a song from 2016, which is why I still put them in 3rd gen. but dreamcatcher's most famous song was 2020's Boca, which is when the era of 4th gen is making it's mark. Boca also sounded like 4th gen. i don't like using Minx to determine what gen dreamcatcher is because tht would leave handong and gahyeon out.
Fub fact: My friends from Korea(they didn't know DC before I talk about them to them btw lol) they told me that love shake is more popular than DC or Minx themselves 😂 its like that random song everyone can automatically sing with its like a radio and mall music and majority doesn't even know it is them they just know the song😂
InSomnia hold A LOT of affection for Minx. And we love it when Handong and Gahyeon will troll the rest by starting to do the Love Shake choreo. I think even the first five have now reconciled themselves to that past and embraced the era. Minx got a shout out in the good Kdrama Idol: the Coup last year where the group was mentioned as being the one that was plagiarized from by the first producer of the central idol group in the series. Someone in the writer's room was an InSomnia, or, at least, in the know.
Minx was the typical cutesy, bubble gum pop, which many groups were already into. The reason why Minx failed is because they were up against some bigger girl groups like Red Velvet, Twice, Mamamoo, GFriend, among others. During Minx era, most were very young, and Dami was the maknae. The girls were pretty uncomfortable with the concept as a whole, especially Siyeon, Dami and SuA. When HappyFace Entertainment decided to pull the plug on Minx, the most affected by the disbandment were Siyeon, Dami and Yoohyeon. Siyeon's mental health was so badly affected that she did not leave her room for weeks and even didn't even wish to do music. She and Yoohyeon would often spend hours at gaming cafés. SuA hated her Minx look badly too with the short, blonde hair and skimpy outfits. It hit them so hard that Siyeon and Dami used to have flashbacks whenever there was mention of Minx. The girls that you see now as Dreamcatcher are more truer to their respective personalities and preferences. The company also gives a lot of freedom and instills faith in the girls, which reflects in their music and life as idols. Also the girls are mature and sensible, having lived with and /or known each other for years.
😂🤣 Handong and Gahyeon was still a trainees at this moment. and Dami?...well, she was still the main rapper, but the cute maknae of MINXX. and SuA was originally play the role of lead rapper, 'til the "Nightmare" era, before she passes it to Gahyeon. and honestly speaking, i'm glad that MINXX didn't make it to go far beyond. why? because they were soppused to be the replacement of their senior "DAL*SHABET", who has this slight sexy concept. if MINXX went through, the dark rock metal DREAMCATCHER would never excess, in fact you will see the sexy concept of MINXX, nowadays.
Agree. Dami and Siyeon were definitely not comfortable with the clothing choices in the Love Shake MV specifically. Here feelings during Minx and the brief “disbandment” definitely inspired Paradise and her neck tattoo. And probably her shoulder tattoo.
Minx came out during the powerhouses of Twice and Gfriend debuts which basically faded Minx away, so it was a struggle for them to stay a float. If you watch their "dodging disbandment" video by a youtube channel named "Mera" she basically put together a nice background story of Dreamcatcher's past and up to "Raid of Dreams" era. I would love to see you guys react to that. Also i love you guy's intros, i be jamming everytime i watch your reactions lol
Love shake is a song I have to be in the mood for to listen to it, but why did you come to my home is a whole bop and honestly I’m not keen on rewatching the two mvs due to the amount of shots focused on their legs and their butts. It actually made me feel a bit uncomfortable due to I think Dami still being underage at the time
yall asked the ages and i havent finished the video yet but dami and yoohyeon were both minors as far as i know, which is a big reason why dami mostly is usually not happy with minx being brought up, also siyeon since she has some trauma from this time, most have which is why the company banned any questions really related to minx
The thing is technically Minx didn’t flop. In fact WDYCTMH was quite popular. The issue was that they debuted during a time when this sound and concept were HEAVILY saturating the market. Unfortunately they got overshadowed by other groups from companies who were better known and had the funds to promote them properly.
Kess and Han...Minx didn't "fail", there was just too much heavy hitting competition at the time of their debut. With the cute girl concept genre saturated and dominated by power groups like Girls Day, AOA, APINK, FX, 4 Minute, Red Velvet, Sistar, T-ara, Black Pink, Twice and Girls Generation, the move to revamp Minx into Dream Catcher was ultimately wise. We Insomnias all benefited!
Dreamcatcher debuted at the beginning of January in 2017, so they are a gen 3 group. Yoohyeon and Dami were still minors during Minx era, so the fact that they were made to wear such revealing clothing and dance the way they danced in the MVs is... yucky, to say the least. WDYCTMH is a bop and a half, but I thank GOD they're Dreamcatcher now. 😭
It's not that the songs are bad, but I think that the market for this was oversaturated at the and they had some bad luck on timing. I still think of Dreamcatcher as a 'new' group but it's wild to think that they are really of the same vintage as (or actually slightly older than) Lovelyz (recently disbanded), Oh My Girl (just lost a member at contract renewal time), GFRIEND (recently and suddenly disbanded), April (recently disbanded) TWICE, Red Velvet, etc. Not to mention the juggernaut that was (and still is) BTS. Dreamcatcher's CEO said "it wasn't the girls who failed. We failed them." They believed in the girls and decided that instead of disbanding or just putting along in an overcrowded market, that they would try a radical approach. It is surprising how many groups fail or stay well well well below the radar. I think Minx could have continued, but I don't know if they would have broken out and we likely would have lost them to disbandment. Even some of the great groups from that era met surprising and sudden ends (RIP my beloved GFRIEND).
watching minx mvs is really sad because the members actually have trauma from this era especially Siyeon she said she couldn't even watch other girl groups performing after their m*nx disbandment ): dami and yoohyeon were minors they were both 17 so the music video indeed feels wrong especially that their concept was more like "oversexualizing the girls in a cute way''. when they were asked if they wanna do cute concept songs again they all said no, nonetheless these are bops its like they can do everything! I'm glad the girls are more themselves now
WDYCTMH is a whole ass bop and I will not be convinced otherwise. If you watch their vlives and other behind the scenes stuff Gahyeon and Handong troll the Minx members a lot with Love Shake. They were recently dancing to it in the latest Dreamcatcher Note so I think they’re over it now. JiU definitely is the fan club president for Minx sunbaenim though 😂
yoohyeon and dami were minors at the time and dreamcatcher always gets uncomfortable whenever minx is brought up because of their sexualization :(( but the songs were so good
Shout out to Happy Face ( Dreamcatcher Company) for not dropping the girls and leading them to become the most unique Kpop group out there. #DreamcatcherSupremacy
Minx debuted in a very similar market to today and they just got lost among groups with more unique concepts or from larger companies. They were on par vocally with Red Velvet and Mamamoo, who also debuted in 2014, but their concept was everywhere and tbh there were still 2nd gen artists who were slaying as well as early 3rd gen artists. I actually really love watching Minx content and if you have the time check out some stage mixes for Why Did You Come To My Home? and Love Shake or some Minx busking(singing outdoors) videos.
Why Did You Come To My House is more my music preference between the two. Though the MV is still kind of cringe.. Love Shake itself is not a bad song, it’s just the MV is very cringe for me.. could be because JiU and SuA were barely in their 20s and Yoohyeon and Dami were still teenagers. I prefer Shut Up and Just Like You from Minx b-sides. They are ones I could see DC doing a cover of.. not that they would do a MINX cover. Minx was never really Siyeon and Dami’s thing.. Dami in particular was uncomfortable with it. Minx had debuted in 2014, the same year as say Mamamoo and some other groups. I believe Red Velvet debuted in 2015. And groups like Girls Generation, BTS and other very popular groups also made comebacks, so they just got over shadowed.There is a video called “Dodging Diabandment and other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher” goes though some of the Minx stuff and other stuff that DC has had to deal with. I would recommend watching it. The failure and brief disbandment impacted them all, but it definitely impacted Siyeon the most as dying that time she could not want performances. Her “Paradise is where I am” and Paradise solo definitely have inspiration from that time and that her paradise is making music and performing. There are times when Minx plays, be it by one of the other members or on an appearance, where Siyeon looks like she is seeing her life flash before her. There is vlive that she did with JIu where JiU stated playing Minx music and Siyeon was fine until JiU stated Love Shake. I swear Siyeon was 😨 and Jiu was 😈😁 at first. There was a show there did where the show played Love Shake as a random dance.. Gahyeon and Handong stated doing the dance, Dami walked to a wall and Siyeon turned around to the windows behind them. Though there is also a recent Dreamcatcher Note during Maison promotions where they are playing Minx through one of their phones. Dami is joking the phone and choosing the songs. SuA, JiU, Handong are messing around. While minx is hard for them still, there are times where they have fun with Minx. JiU suggesting to see if Love Shake was on a Karaoke that was being used for a SuA birthday v live with JiU and Siyeon.. and Siyeon leaving the room at mention of Love Shake. Minx is where SuA and Dami rapped. SuA stoped rapping full time in after Good Night. Rapper SuA has made returns a hand full of times. You need to watch all of their special clips, I would definitely do- Into the New World, lucky strike, self made MV’s, odd eye (dystopia Ver), scream (suits), scream (past outfits), Siyeon’s Faded, Speechless, we all lie, eraser; Yoohyeon’s Secret love song, perfect, touch; Yoohyeon and Dami’s Mood, Jiu and SuA’s Switch to me, Dami and Siyeon’s Ping Pong. Oh my, Really really, Taki Taki..
Even if you don't include their MINX era, Dreamcatcher is mostly considered to be a Third Generation idol group (with groups like TWICE, Mamamoo, GFriend, Blackpink). Around that time, a whole of lot of girl groups either debuted or dropped "bigger" songs than the two. It was difficult for them to really stand out and get attention. But in a way, their fall as MINX was a blessing in disguise because it result in Dreamcatcher being born. This video does a great job in covering the group's history especially the MINX days. "Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher" by mera ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YIgCAp3i1os.html It stops at the 2020 mark so it's not up to date but I think it's still a good video that manages to get the group's time up until then across very well. There have been moments where the original five members cringe whenever anything MINX-related is brought up. Handong and Gahyeon do enjoy it as there's a video of both dancing to Love Shake. Buuuutttt, it seems nowadays the five are more "accepting" of their dark past as there's a recent vlog of them singing "Love Shake" for fun cause Dami started playing it on her phone. Technically, Dreamcatcher did sorta went back to the summer cute aesthetic last year when they did the photoshoot for their mini-album, "Summer Holiday"; the album BEcause is on. In a behind the scenes video, Dami commented that she hasn't smiled in a photoshoot in a long time which is probably a reference to her MINX days
If you watch a video on YT about how difficult it was for DC and especially Minx you would get to know why the group failed at the time. Apologies, but I cannot remember the details for the video. Basically the group's coming out at the same time were stronger and the competition was so fierce that Minx didn't stand a chance. They did reasonably okay, but not enough. One thing is they had the talent from the start.
There is nothing to dive deep into actually. Minx songs were too "generic" and followed mainstream kpop at that time + group was from small company so they simply can't compete against bigger groups. Love Shake was not even their own song.
@@bigparadox9093 well yeah that's the reason for Minx but the video explains it really well and is also not completely about Minx. It just gives a good understanding of why its so great to see Dreamcatcher getting more popular. Because it wasn't given from the start.
@@moongirl8807 you don't need a video to understand that it's heavy for a group with unusual sound and from small company to stay alive in kpop industry. It's pretty obvious
Switching from Minx to Dreamcatcher is the best decision ever made. Also it failed cause they were up against other groups like Red Velvet, Twice, GFriend. Dami was a minor at the time. Gahyeon and especially Dongie wii take every opportunity to mess with the other members about Love Shake
Ah, the Minx pilgrimage. Every InSomnia has to watch these two MVs at least once to get the culture shock. As much as the girls (mostly Siyeon) don't like to acknowledge Minx for the most part, I think it was formative for them on how to survive in the industry. Siyeon's solo song Paradise basically is her feelings about Minx and its failure. It was just market oversaturation at that point. When your competition at their debut are Red Velvet, Gfriend and Mamamoo, you're kinda screwed. The market was saturated and there was nowhere for Minx to go. Dreamcatcher, on the other hand...
They are Dreamcatcher for all Time , they are : the History , the Legend , the Myth , and the Story . Remember Their : Flame 🔥 , Magic ✨ , Power ⚡ and Beauty 🌹 ,
Recently Dami joined in the fooling around while singing love shake. Siyeon still doesn't like it though, she'll usually step away or just ignore people when they are singing the songs. It's not a good period for them, the failure weighed on them. JiU started questioning her ability as a leader, Dami and Yoohyeon were underage with the video being uncomfortably sexual and Siyeon stopped listening to music entirely post hiatus. She still has a visceral reaction to it being mentioned. Particularly love shake but she'll tolerate her members joking about it and even likes some of their bsides. When the girls did a reddit ama last year they had to ban any questions relating to minx.
Because their company was even tinier back then and also didn't promote well, that's actually the whole reason. Also tough competition, we had Gfriend debut, Red Velvet and Twice at that time with too similar concepts and rising success.
Girl Groups and Boy Groups Rise and Fall, Fandoms begin and End. The 7 Legendary Dreamcatcher are bonded Through Destiny For All Time. InSomnia never Sleep on Dreamcatcher talent..
Minx was part of their concept for Dreamcatcher in that Minx was their dream and that they went into (of course they didn't plan that). Their nightmare was being trapped in those cutie concept Kpop genre and that they were trying to break & escape from it as Dreamcatcher and free themselves from such stereotype eventually. We have to give credit to their company however as rebranding a KPop group rarely happen and I've seen a lot of talented groups disbanded early such as the amazing group Hot Issue recently.
Also, I suggest watching Insomnicsy's video on Dreamcather Vs Minx. Since the girls are now fine with it, it's actually a lot of fun. And Handong is definitely their biggest fan and the VitaMinx President For Life. Watch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sPWCWjKmx3A.html
A little bit of WARNING here : Be very careful with the Minx era if it would happen you interact with the members one day... 😉 They are NOT keeping good memories from this period of failure, especially Siyeon. In the other hand, Jiu is the most comfortable with it. In the same time, Handong and Gahyeon are joking around about time to time. 😁
Minx's music is excellent. The only thing I didn't like about the video was how it was shot (some angle). As a woman, I felt very uncomfortable watching it.
이 분들 드림캐쳐 찐 팬들인데 밍스캐쳐 영상에 입틀막을 ㅋㅋㅠ 전 밍스때부터 좋아했던 팬이에요 이 때는 인기가 많이 없었고 그 끝에 해체라는 아픔을 겪었던 시절이라서 보면서 마냥 웃을 수만은 없더라고요 우리 드림캐쳐 많이 많이 사랑해주세요❤ 자동자막 없는 게 알것 같아서 웃프네요 ㅠㅎ
usually, i click fast whenever your new video up...but this time I don't know..i commented without watching the video..still cringe whenever I see my girls in cute concept..
I feel like all Insomnias felt this way the first time they saw MINX 🤣✨ Honestly, they changed concepts because it was the end of the cutesy era and they were being overshadowed by the more popular groups- however, when MINX comes up, half the members admit to this day they were absolutely miserable and hated MINX's music and concepts. I think Siyeon is always the loudest to talk about her MINX misery, and YooBin silently protests anything MINX when faced with it. Yoohyeon was also miserable and seems to silently protest like YooBin does, only with less animosity. Minji and Bora still have the same energy tbh, they are also the most open to MINX stuff when faced with it, they dont get mad or protest like the others, and lots of times they even make joke references (only to be ignored by other members when they do).
Minx has really good voices. I mean Siyeon with those effortless whistle tone like what? That's so cool kfjhaskjf. Why it failed is... there is a REALLY good reason. Please search for Dreamcatcher dodging disbandment because it gives a pretty good history about what happened back then.
As a new somnia its definitely a ‘culture shock’ from Minx to Dreamcatcher as we know them now lol I’m glad you checked them out! That aside, you can see the talent and potential was there, but the industry was too congested with this concept. Let me tell you, the VOCALS were always there from the start - if you check out some of their covers, my fave being Minx covering “End of Time” - Beyoncé - its so good!
All the ex-Minx members really don't like remembering these times. Probably bc the concept didn't suit them and it didn't really take off. But both Handong and Gahyeon really enjoy the songs and tease them about that era a lot. We joke a lot about Siyeon having war flashbacks whenever Minx is mentionned, so we try not to tease them too much as fans to not cause them any discomfort. But to be honest, I have discovered Love Shake after stanning them and I unironically enjoy the song. It reminds me of older kpop songs, and the song is good. I think most of the fandom looks at Minx the way you'd look at a old drawing you made as a child : it's not as good as your drawing skills as an adult, but there's something endearing about it.
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What sends me is the fact that after Gahyeon and Handong were added to the group, they both learned the Love Shake choreo just so they could troll the ex-Minx members with it whenever they wanted 🤣
if you consider that Dami was the original maknae around 17 at this time, it makes a bit of sense. she just grew out of it. If i remember correctly, the only person who didn't like the Minx concept was Siyeon. She always liked rock. JiU had a hard time coming to terms with the rock concept. The major trauma over minx was almost being disbanded.
The interesting thing is JiU said she never wanted to do cute stuff again. But in another video she said she wanted lighter concepts. While this isn't the same and I totally get it from a leader standpoint that she's traumatised by Minx, I can really see her in a cute concept girl group. Sorry this sounds confusing but I just remember her saying different things. She did really well in the cute concept and maybe she had a hard time with rock, but at the same time she stated somewhere that she and Siyeon like Babymetal. I'm just confused but maybe this is just my brain mashing two years of DC content together😭I would just really want to know her opinion on this
@@moongirl8807 my feeling is Jiu does like cute concepts, she wants to collab with every girl group. Plus she’s not shy or embarrassed when Minx gets brought up. It’s more Siyeon and Dami who get uncomfortable when it gets brought up
@@p0rnany0ne yeah I totally get you and I'm even more confused by my own comment because while it makes sense, I also think JiU really loves the cute stuff. Now that they did a part of Love Shake on weekly idol I saw it again. I think what I wanted to express a few months ago was that I really think no one of them really hated Minx for the cute concept. Each of them had a personal reason: Dami was maknae and oversexualized, JiU was leader and had to hold them together in this awful time, SuA had the hair she hated and Siyeon thought her dream of becoming a singer was crushed. Just for Yoohyeon I don't know what she didn't like, probably those baseball caps she had to wear all the time😂at least we know how Handong and Gahyeon think of Minx lol
Sua totally hates her hair in minx 🤣 She has mentioned multiple times that she wil never do short hair anymore hahahaha Also, Minx's songs are BOP! But even I never run into their songs when I was active back then. That's probably because there were SO many major releases back then especially debuts by red velvet, gfried, twice, etc. Like I kinda knew they existed but never really heard their songs. Also variety shows were a big thing back then too but they never really get invited. A little bit regretful but thankfully I managed to discover Dreamcatcher when they debuted so I'm glad. Dodging Disbandment by Mera is not updated for 2020 onwards but it definitely gives you an insight to their early days and the tea that happened, so enjoy!
i believe 2014 would be the start of 3rd Gen. Part of the reason Minx didn't succeed was the competition the were up against. Mamamoo, Red Velvet, Lovelyz and LABOOM all debuted this year. not to mention 2NE1 released one of their highest charting albums in "Crush". Then in 2015 Red Velvet gets their fifth and final member in Yeri. CLC, Gfriend, Oh My Girl and Twice debuted. Amber (f(x)), Mina (Girls Day), Taeyeon (Girls Generation) and Sera Ryu (9 Muses)(disclaimer, I'm a big Sera Ryu fan and one of a very few I support on patreon😘Love ya Sera) all made their solo debuts this year also. As you can see Minx had some VERY tough competition, especially in the cutsie/bubble gum pop genre. Mera's "Dodging Disbandment and other Extreme Sports" touches on this and other hardships the girls went through and how they overcame them, even after they re-debuted as Dreamcatcher. cheers EDIT: Sera Ryu is the unofficial/official InSomnia president😇 JiU was 20 and 21 respectively. SuA was also 20 and 21. SuA has said she would never go back to that bob cut LOL. Siyeon was 19 and 20 (this era is also the reason Siyeon hates short shorts). Yooyeon was 17 and 18. Dami was also 17 and 18.
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This is Siyeon and Dami's worst nightmare basically, my poor girls were suffering, I am so glad they are much happier and in a better place with Dreamcatcher. They get war flashbacks whenever MINX is brought up because of how traumatic it was for them.
5:55 How did it fail? It's 2014, just look who debuted around this time with them and you will know the answer. Taken out of context it seems good but it was completely drowned by what was going on that year. Think MAMAMOO, Lovelyz and Red Velvet. 2015 wasn't much easier, think GFriend, Oh My Girl and TWICE. Also that concept in 2014 was already old and massively overplayed. Most of the new groups at that time were about challenging that status quo. And yes, indeed, that's how 3rd generation was being born. It shows that no matter how talented the group members are a marketing choices for a group concept and image can make absolutely huge difference. CLC, debuted in 2015, is also a fitting example of that.
they didn't "flop" because they were bad, 2014-15 had a HUGE influx of girl groups, specially all big 3 debuting (rv, twice, bp) + hybe's gfriend and mamamoo etc so the market was clustered and smaller companies groups couldn't cope
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I love dreamcatcher and gahyeon is my ultimate bias so I’m very happy for her to be in the group, but I love these minx songs so much. So catchy and fun and cute
As a fan of DC i wont recommend to see videos of MINX unless are ABSOLUTE NEEDED. Nothing in this Universe prepare you for the things you are going to see.
Minx didn't really flop. They simply weren't noticed. They flew under everyone's radar. Competition when Minx debuted was really stiff. I mean REALLY stiff. While they were trying to break out and get noticed powerhouse groups like Twice and Red Velvet were debuting. Their first comeback came out just as GFriend debuted. Add to this the fact that they were from a very small, relatively unknown company. Minx didn't get the hype and insta-fans / company stans that the Twice and Red Velvet received when they debuted. Minx was pretty much doomed right from the start. Some trivia... Dami was 17 when Minx debuted so, yeah, she was a little young for the concept. I htkn Yoohyeon was only 17 as well, but I could be wrong. You will never see SuA with that hairstyle again. She hated it and still hates it to this day. JiU has a minx poster on the wall in her bedroom. Siyeon hated the cute concept. She's been a rocker chick since she was in school and she really wasn't happy during her Minx days. The drama and trauma of Minx's disbandment... Some people like to over dramatize how the members feel about the disbandment of Minx. First and foremost, yes, as you can imagine they went through a tough time when they found out Minx was going to be disbanded. I won't go into all the details here. We'll just say that it was pretty rough. I mean, no one wants to hear that they failed and, for a short time, none of them knew what their future held. However, it's not like any of them has PTSD because of Minx's disbandment. Yes, Siyeon, SuA and Dami will cringe when someone mentions Minx or when they hear a Minx song, but they're not going to break down and cry about it. They all, at this point, joke about it and / or laugh it off. Gahyeon and Handong regularly tease the other members about their Minx days, which is something they wouldn't do if they thought it really bothered them. So, yeah, it was a rocky road for a bit there but they've all gotten over it, for the most part. Some of the cringe is still there. PS: Now that you've seen the cute side of Dreamcatcher, it's time for you to experience the cute side of Pixy. During an interview, when asked what concept they would like to try, some of the members said that they wanted to try a cute concept because most of them haven't had a chance to try it yet. All Art, doting father that it is, said "Okay" and gave the girls what they wanted. The result was the Call Me performance video. You should check it out.
I think the timing was off. minx had a decent Fandom & the songs match that time. but kpop was flooded with new groups and everyone was trying to stand out. Some groups held on & others disband/redebuted. DC girls are actually a mix of both minx and dreamcatcher. They look badass but are actually cute,warm and chill. More content you watch you will see that. enjoy the journey!
A quick note: Dami was still under age there. Also, some of them really did not enjoy doing that cute concept (I'm looking at you specially, Dami), and it seems Gahyeon and Handong love making fun of them with Minx songs, lmao. SuA absolutely hates that hair.
Minx did flop unfortunately, even if the song is good and well executed. The market was oversaturated with groups of similar concept and Minx was buried at this time. They also debuted at the same time as Red Velvet, Mamamoo, and Lovelyz all of which overshadowed any other group from that year. The members (except maybe JiU) have negative feelings towards the Minx days (JiU is Minx's biggest fan of the 5. For a long time she had a poster in her closet well into the DC years. Everyone else wants to forget it even existed). Most likely just a lot of left over anxiety. The group failed. SuA hated that haircut and will never where a bob that short again. Happyface went with the DC concept because nobody else was doing it. Lesson learned I guess. The members agreed to the re-debut because they felt they could do any concept. They were right. They have the skills and motivation to succeed regardless of the situtation. The most amazing part is all 5 of them stayed for the re-debut. Most companies would not retain at least one of them. I know we like to think DC has had a lot of bad breaks over the years, but they also have been lucky as hell at times. Sorry for the long winded rant. Thank you for your time. Edit: formatting and the addition of information.
I honestly like WDYCTMH, but Love Shake was a disaster. Also this was their job back then, as Dreamcatcher is their job now. They should do their best to keep their job. So naturally they fit any concept as any other kpop idol could probably do any concept. They are performers and it is an industry. They are not Slipknot, they can't do whatever they want and get away with it. They had a job they should do. And they are pretty good at it.
i think the Love Shake cover was the curse for Minx, and the sexualized nature of the videos has never fit these girls. i still wouldn't mind Dreamcatcher throwing more concepts for B-sides, just take out the sexualization.
