New Lamborghini Huracán STO - is it faster than a McLaren P1? | evo LEADERBOARD 

Yeah I was wondering about that too.. annoys me 😂

@@thecarguy3483 Half a second??? Try 2 seconds. Poor driving. You will not come across any competent driver bouncing off the limiter if they're trying to set a fast time. No idea what he was doing.

He hit the limiter 3 times in the entire lap, calm down

@@heavensent7183 correct. The difference of half a second a lap....

@@Dannyjones1yeah, I can get behind that. 2 seconds tho is absurd.

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Who cares about the lap time? We’re you not LISTENING?!

@@karlsumner5594 Well, lambo care obviously. Or they wouldnt go about privatising race circuits like the Nordschleife for a fast lap to impress would be buyers. Otherwise im completely in agreement. Cars or especially supercars really are not anywhere near optimised for performance around a track and thus laptimes are pointless. Look how much faster a real track car (BAC mono) is. That being said, considering 99% of these cars will never go anywhere near a track, all they need to do is look and sound pretty.

You don't title a segment, "is it faster than a mclaren p1?" and not care about the lap time...@@karlsumner5594

it can't even beat 720s. joke italian

@@bigbus5845 and the SF90 just polverized the 650S tuned called P1. Or we could talk about how much faster are the Pista than others.

@@bigbus5845 I'd take an NA V10 over an industrial V8 with no character, but so would you, sat in your mums basement

@@Mr995pippo I’d like to see the pista vs the 765LT!

@@bigbus5845 on a track like the nurburgring it can. and don’t forget the 720s is far from entry level mclaren, this is a track focused version of the entry level Lamborghini

These comparisons are almost never fair in that respect. All the lap times should be on the same tire. I know that's nearly impossible considering that EVO doesn't own these cars, but that time sheet is essentially worthless when you consider that a proper tire would net, at least, 2-3 seconds a lap.

@@bobdobbs69 some even 5 seconds. If the Viper ACR had tires like these modern compounds it could still hang with the likes of the STO.

@@bobdobbs69 Not to mention real lap time comparisons must be done at the highest level. Lets not forget that these are not PRO drivers. In fact considering the way he was bouncing off the track limiter, i doubt his ability to consistently set a decent pace. No doubt also different cars and setups require different driving styles. A traction heavy AWD lambo will require a different approach than a RWD light mclaren for example. But you know, people see laptimes and automatically think it is above reproach.

The Pista is far from normal, but I get what you’re saying lol. Having as much track hardware that it does, the engine that was essentially ripped straight from the race car, and putting down the kind of lap times that it does puts the Pista faaaar above the “normal” category. When you’re out there beating GT2 RS times, are neck and neck with the 765, and are significantly faster than the best performing Huracan that money can buy, you are a pretty *abnormal* super car.

@@danieldickerson4838 well, it’s not like it was that limited in production. I think Ferrari made over 3000 and it’s still just RWD and weighs about 3400 lbs. Pretty amazing lap times shows just how balanced it must be. I suspect the F8 is probably faster, but I didn’t see it on EVO’s lap times.

Ferrari is just meh .. nothing interesting

But Ferrari come with the whole support team when their cars are tested here by EVO, while other manufacturers just throw the keys at them and here you go. Of course, a prepared car with several sets of tires will show better results.

@@ArtVandelayOfficial SF90, 812 competitizone, and 488 Pista are nothing interesting? 🤦‍♂️ Ferrari makes waaay more productions cars then Lamborghini

Add Henry Catchpole and you've got the three best Auto journalists

You need to watch throttle house

@@-_--le3zk it’s not the same because throttle house jokes around.

@@vble2337 so who wants extremely serious videos?they give you proper journalism and they make videos fun,i guess the last part is the whole reason why we watch videos in first place,but hey everyone has their own opinion

You literally described Evo Magazine back in like 2008-2014.

@@augustortiz the sad thing is that the cars which I associate with this golden era of EVO and which I find the most appealing to a driver mainly stayed back in those years :’(

911 is too common for me

lol couldn't agree more. he kept bouncing off the limiter.

Usually they make few laps to achive their goal - fastest lap time for each car. We do not know wheter the best result is connected with the end of that video.

They aren't as aggressive as a Cup 2 R, mentioned in some STO Reviews. They are on par with a normal Cup 2

Supposed to be as grippy? C'mon, man. That's just pure speculation. Considering how many different factors there are in a tire (compound, treadwear, heat cycling, size, and especially, tread pattern, etc.) it's basically impossible to say one tire is as grippy as another without actual data on the tire which manufacturers NEVER release to the public.

@@bobdobbs69 actually apples to apples test using the Potenza race tire were done and compared to Cup2, Trofeo R and Eagle f1 supersport R, and the potenza came out on top in every dry grip measure. Just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it hasnt been done. Also obviously when I say "as grippy" I mean tires in the same sizes and at the very least same amount of usage/wear, introducing that as a factor makes no sense tbh.

Pretty sure all the drifting you see in videos are for the looks (also some cars are just fun to drift in)

Lamborghini keeps doing this tacky stuff, I wonder if their customers are actually into it? But, yeah...not for my taste, personally.

Actually you should be quicker than this Lambo in this turn since the gtr has better front end grip (known for that due to weight distribution), wider front tires and Toyos are also way more stickier than these Bridgestones - so you certainly have room for improvement here :))

@@coolguy_2997 Hmm not sure I agree a GT-R should be quicker through here. Physics suggests otherwise. It's 400kgs heavier, narrower track, higher CoG, front engined so will have a significantly worse polar moment of inertia, is capable of considerably less lateral acceleration, and I doubt there'd be much (if any) difference in coefficient of friction between a Toyo R888R (which is a pretty entry level trackday tyre) and Bridgestones 'custom potenza race tyre'. Watching the onboard it simply looks like a poor line/technique through Turn 1... Turn in is way too early, car is loitering on the apex and understeering as a result, revs holding on part throttle well before the apex and for 2-3 seconds which suggests little/zero trail braking.... Anything mid engined will want to understeer, the way to counteract that is 1) late braking 2) late turn in and 3) trail braking deep into the apex... from the onboard the driver isn't doing any of these 3 things. Oh yeah and hitting the limiter all the way down the back straight lol, this is a poorly driven lap IMHO. (And turn in/apex at T7 'Peel' looks at least 3 meters too early)

That's for sure...and maybe not hitting the rev limiter too.

It would be much more than that depending on just how sticky the tires are. I know a pure race compound tire like a Hoosier could shave seconds off that lap.

I guess a RWD Huracan EVO would do that job perfectly then, sound and emotion.

Hahaha!!! That’s what I was thinking 🤔 a bit embarrassing

It doesn’t matter how old the Mac is, I guess you know that it’s very light and has 780-800hp measured at the crank at dynos while n/a lambos barely show its advertised hp numbers in reality - so it’s no big surprise that it’s slower but who cares till it sounds so good

@@coolguy_2997 yeah you’re right….. I’ll still take the lambo anyday lol

And the 720s doesn’t even have a limited slip differential at the rear axel, it’s just imitated with the rear brakes so you can’t have good fun and stable sideways in it.

Tbh you sound like an armchair pilot who’s never been on track. Your suggestion is valid but you clearly object to cars with upgraded tires (your “FINE” was huffy). Having done literal dozens of track days and autocrosses, I can assure you nobody is on track to prove which car was faster in showroom trim. You buy a car bc it’s a good platform and you pick tires for the situation. You swap tires at the event and you compete to prove who’s the best driver in class (or overall) and that’s how everyone does it. In the end when you get results in spite of your car it’s more rewarding than this car-leaderboard bs.

Depends on the usage. Speaking from expeirence: the Michelins are hot garbage over a longer session on track. They are one lap hero tires that fall off quickly, which is why they are popular with OEMs--they are great for bragging rights and winning superficial comparison tests. The Bridgestones produce better steering feel and more consistent performance across a broader thermal range (albeit, at an appreciably slower pace, at least, on the first lap). In a sense, they are a much better track day tire even if they are a rather poor hotlap tire.

These new potenza race are 2 seconds per lap faster than the cup2’s.

@@flyingphoenix113 Great info. Thanks for sharing!

@@castroalves8843 Which means it's slower than Cup 2 R

BAHAHHHA

Wrong track for the GT2. It needs long straights and high speed corners........

video seems rather edited so I would take all those rev limit bounce with a grain of salt

I'd definitely rather have a 296GTB over this STO any day.... and with a cat-back, the 296GTB sounds arguably better, at least IMO.

Without the limiter bouncing it would of been at least 0.1 quicker and faster than the P1

watch close, the audio and the gauges of the timed lap dont line up.

Audio isn’t linked

Said in the clip that if the time upsets you he “doesn’t care”, however I hope Lamborghini care that he drove it through the rev limiter repeatedly. He would fking care if it was his car. These heel / toe princesses are just wanna be race drivers without the clout or the skill.

Should have used track mode with auto shift

Not 2wd I believe, the Gallardo Lp550-2 Balboni is the closest to that in my mind

@@JC-lb1iq you can very easily make one 2wd, very popular and easy to do mod.

While true, it's actually hard to do in these cars so I'd partially blame Lambo for it. In its angriest mode you have to use the paddles but it's hard to "feel" by ear or acceleration where the shift point is with this engine. It sort of sounds like you're not there yet and keeps pulling harder and then it unexpectedly bangs into the limiter. Needs quite a bit of practice to train your ears as the revs climb quickly and the digital rev counter is hard to interpret properly when you only have 0.1s to look down at it in between two corners. On top of all that the revs are climbing so quickly that in lower gears you have to anticipate the delay between pulling the paddle and the actual shift happening which means pulling the paddle quite a bit before the red line. It would take more time to get used to than these kind of tests usually have allocated.

@@JCviggen1 well you were right if there wasn't like 20-30 tests of other Huracans doing the same thing

@@alim7502 I imagine there's not that many doing a time attack lap. It's easier to pay attention to it if you're at 90%. In any case it's a lot easier to do it in these cars than in something like a GT3.

@@JCviggen1 Having Ferrari like steering wheel LED shift lights would help.

video seems rather edited so I would take all those rev limit bounce with a grain of salt