New Loopholes To Get A Car Title 

you do not get a title you get a certificate of title

We want the Original MSO!

It’s ALL about the original Manufacturer’s’ Statement of Origin (MSO). Without that, you don’t have the true title to your property. Period.

I see a large portion of people who are asking why they need to register their private property. I'm one of them. I notify the State (BMV in Maine) and let them know I'm the new owner. I send them old title and they return it stating I need to "purchase" a title before I can register. I place the papers in my safe and my "private" notice where the plate goes. Other than that, as long as there's no dispute, there should be no problems. I also notified the manufacturer and changed ownership there. GM won't do it but Ram did it for me.

You can still register in VT if you go there to the dmv. They don’t do mail to other states anymore. If you have an “address” like a rented ups store box to get an address you are considered a resident and they do let you register.

How do you get a certified copy of the manufacturers certificate of origin

In Arizona its easy. Bonded title application and an inspection and its done.

I bought a vehicle from a friend of mine and when we went to transfer it the state of Nevada had post sale declared it salvage after he had already licensed it in Colorado. Now I have a salvage title and have to drive 2 hours to get it inspected and re titled. More inter-state BS.

Paying the dmv the ridiculous amount they asked for doesn’t seem to work

It’s really simple, get a title legally, and make the vehicle legitimate. Otherwise it’s a red flag when you sell it or try to sell it with “no title”.

Did i miss something? Certificate of title is not title. The Secretary of State has the title. Correct me if I’m wrong I didn’t hear you mention that. Are you misleading people?

Texas DMV does NOT keep active records for more than 10 years. It only keeps records on actively registered vehicles. I have vehicle that have sat for many years, I have titles for all of them. I legally own them. I have heard of car builders that have field full of car shells, and DMV and law enforcement have come knocking to check every car, vin and title, to verify they are legal. Nothing is more satisfying than having them show up only to realize there is nothing questionable about all the ownership of vehicles in possession.

In Missouri it's a declaratory judgment.

On the other hand there is a large and growing movement of people who have purposely terminated the STATE'S Certificate Of Title and now no longer have a requirement to register their car, pay tax on it, obtain a smog certificate, etc.

Ok here is one for you, I bought a car over 20 years ago 1994 toyota celica paid xxxxx for it, when we bought it in 1995 it was used had 13k miles on it We put 287k miles on it had it paid off in less then 5 years its been paid for for a very long time it had lein on the title, they sent it back after it was paid off with paid off stamped on it. I sold the car put how much on it for tax signed it over to the buyer gave him that. He went to title it they said no he needs a lien release forms to prove it been paid off. I didnt even know who the lender was but they should have sent that with the dam title when they sent it back. Wtf turns out it was a sub company of wells fargo, and i rember paying a title fee on the loan then paying the state for a title when we paid our tax. So in reality they should have sent me a clean title with no lein on it. The point is i sold him a car with what i thought was a clean title, and he could not do shit with it.

does it work for motorcycles bought a basket case harley 25 yrs ago .lost the bill of sale previous owner died also have a bsa bought 40 years ago. looking to restore them then sell to fund other resto projects like barn finds.

How do I get a title for a trailer that was sold to someone else and the title was written to them but they never titled it and I have the title now and the trailer but have no way or means of contacting the actual owner who signed the title

Okay will this work for imported 25 year old cars from Europe with title ?

The problem is it became acceptable to get titles for questionable ownership. Years back no title meant no sale. Now no titles are all over Facebook marketplace. Bill of sales are crap.

Why do you have to trade in a perfectly good certificate of origin from the manufacturer and a bill of sale for a state piece of paper. The manufacturers certificate of origin and the bill of sale should be sufficient Titling a vehicle cost too much money.

Or better yet have NO titles.

The real title or certificate of title 😊

No title then NO SALE. No MCO then NO SALE.

Does this work in Virginia

Texas DMV does NOT keep active records for more than 10 years. It only keeps records on actively registered vehicles. After 10 years, the information in the Texas dmv system just goes away. This applies to Texas. The process for getting a lost title or bill of sale vehicle can be lengthy. Paperwork, bill of sale. Trailer your vehicle to Texas dmv after you have made an appointment for the inspectors to check the vehicle VIN, the hidden VIN, and verify the vehicle is not stolen. There must be a way to verify the VIN does not flag a stolen vehicle nationally, whatever they do to verify ownership. After they are satisfied with the vehicle is legit, then you will get a title. You cannot swap a VIN from any vehicle, that’s illegal, could even be a felony. Swapping a vin must be done by DMV. Licensed Replacement bodies for classics, same thing, vin assignment must be done my DMV. I don’t want a bonded title, I want a legit Texas title that matches the VIN on the car. Theft recoveries can get a new VIN assigned and riveted on the vehicle if it’s been stolen and oem vin tag was removed. But it’s not a factory vin anymore and resale value is less. I’ve sent that also. That’s why you verify the VIN when you buy a classic or any vehicle. There are many who make fake collector cars or vehicle to make money. Trust no one. I’m glad the Vermont loophole is gone.

This is nothing new...

No certificates get an allodial title application

Mco is king, fear monger is upon you

How about obtaining a Private Motor Carrier DOT #, slapping that bad boy on to an ambassador at large plate and presenting a NON U.S. citizen Passport ID card if get pulled over, after returning the STATE plates and CERT. of TITLE back to the DMV of course.