One more thing to reiterate: 4K footage without any effects had 0 frames dropped on both Dell & M1 Max. But when adding lots of FX on top (as I did), they both struggled on H.264 codec. But ProRes on M1 Max is so smooth! Dell doesn’t do well with ProRes. One last note, the Dell was very loud during the performance and got hot, M1 Max didn’t make a sound.
Nice video! Please note that render performance on plugins will always vary depending on the specific filter, clip, and settings. Boris FX Continuum, Sapphire, and Mocha Pro are all optimized for M1, so you will generally get better performance across the board.
Thx BorisFX for the chime in! Yes, every filter/effect will perform different. But generally Flicker Fixer and Noise Remover have taken long times to render in the past. I'm happy with the render performance of Flicker Fixer on the M1 MAX :)
I zoomed to the end to see that you talked about havning AE, PP, PS open while doing other functions (which is what I'm doing on my mid 2014 MBP), so it seems that the max is in my future. You answered the exact dilemma I'm going through, thanks!
Didn’t do 360 editing in this video. But glad to hear it runs smooth! I’m sure you’ll find the results interesting as I pile on the FX to really showcase playback on 4K.
With my highend macbook, I can't edit 1080p files that are reasonably compressed (like from OBS) without creating proxies. how compressed are the 4K videos you are editing like butter with the M1? On what machine were you editing them before with PR that was slow (assuming that was your previous experience)
honestly kind of disappointed in the M1 max. I'm not totally surprised because i have an M1 MBP, but i was hoping the Max would be enough of an upgrade to replace my PC workstation. Maybe next year. Good video tho Gal
compared to a desktop for sure, I see that. However, compared the M1 MAX to my Macbook Pro from a few years ago, it's a huge difference. Since I like to be mobile, the M1 MAX is great, I'm definitely purchasing it now. (the one in the video was a tester unit) :)
Brilliant video! Very clear unlike some other comparisons I’ve seen. I even like your explanation between the pro and max chips. I’m going for the max chip. Thank you for you help in deciding. Ps. You channel is great, not just this video, thank you for your content 😁
Always appreciate your videos! I’m looking for reviews on the Dell 40” ultra wide and unexpectedly heard you mention it briefly at the end of this video. Would love to hear any insight you may have about using it as your primary monitor. Thank you!!
I haven’t been deluged by this much jargon since I watched Seven Days of Science and the description of a newly discovered dinosaur based on fossil bone fragments. Whew!
Awesome video! 👏🏼 It would be nice to see a comparison between m1 Max laptop n the m1 Mac Mini or the iMac with the m1... The battle of the M1 chip! LoL
Wonderfully helpful video! Thank you! I'm wondering if the 64GB RAM is a big plus over the 32 GB on the M1 Max bumping up the cost by $400. I plan to do more professional editing on P Pro. Any extra feedback on that will be very much appreciated.
She seemed to answer that in the end talking about the "max" vs the "pro". The max being the 64gb and the pro being the 32gb. To repeat what she says, if you have PS, AE, PP and other programs open, which is exactly what I do on my mid 2014 MBP, then the Max is what you're looking for. Go to 13:20 in the video.
After the Premiere of this video, you'll be able to rewatch the content, here are the time-code chapters: 0:00 What will I be testing? Why? 1:19 The Laptop Contestants 1:39 4k Playback Test with FX Applied 4:04 8k .CRM Playback Test with Color Grade LUT applied 6:21 8K ProRes Playback 7:28 Mogrt (motion graphics templates) speed test 9:10 Dell 40” Monitor Desk Setup 9:50 Warp Stabilizer Test 10:40 Flicker Fixer Plugin Render Test 11:51 Rotoscoping Test in After Effects 12:49 Final Results 13:01 Explained: m1 pro vs m1 max
Nice review! I love this style over regular benchmarks. I just got a m1 mac mini to test the waters and my workflow in Premiere. Overall, loved it, but most of my plugins weren't ready yet. Seems none of the GoPro 360 stuff is ready yet, couldn't get the reframe plugin to recognize in m1 native premiere (worked in Rosetta intel version). Also the GoPro video render app for 360 files wasn't working either for the max or the fusion (it had errors for anything over 2 minutes, tried it on several clips). Redgiant magic bullet doesn't seem to be working either, as of 2 weeks ago. Anyone have the same experiences?
as a motion graphic designer find quite confusing that the dell doubles the speed of m1x on rotoscoping, makes me really wonder if the price difference is really worth it
Yes, that test I ran a couple times to be sure. It was a short 13 second 1080p clip and somehow Dell won each time. That said though, the MacBook Pro’s export speed on both AE and Pr is faster. Also, the Dell tends overheats a lot and is very noisy when working, forgot to mention that in the video.
I'm a motion graphic designer too and currently using the M1 Mac from early 2021. I'd say that the "regular" M1 Mac is almost useless in Ae. It really struggles with any mildly complex Ae project. So I'm wondering if it's really worth upgrading to M1 Max or just going for a desktop.
fantastic...so which Premiere Pro is optimized for the M1pro/M1max chip? I want to get a M1pro or M1max but only when Premiere Pro is really ready for it...I want real speed improvements...thanks so much
Love your videos and content! Great job with everything💯👍🏻 What Apple computer do you recommend for running premiere pro? I’m a Realtor just looking to do RU-vid shorts. Maybe some 7 to 8 minute max RU-vids & Tik Toks…Nothing too technical. Thanks! 🎅✝️🎄
Thank you Gal for this video! I'm wondering which Premier version is running smooth on M1? Since I'm getting lots of issue with the last release of it. Thanks
Great video thanks 🥳...But how do the PC and the 2017 Mac compare when using ProRes? Hoping this will be good for using After Effects, Prem. Pro, with Illustrator or Photoshop for traditional animation and motion graphics. Thanks 😊
Hi Kelsy, great video thank you. I have a macbook M1 Max. I need more thunderbolts. I there a dock or hub with 4 thunderbolt ports and one in port? I am also looking for a very fast thunderbolt external drive to edit 4k videos from without copying the footag to the macbook first. So I mean straight rom the drive. I saw this: Glyph Atom Pro 2TB NVMe SSD Thunderbolt 3. But I think you may know other options. OfCourse the drive I will not connect to the hub but straight to the macbook max m1.
Great, informative video! I have no plans to purchase this computer because once again it will not play 4K footage at full resolution with any effects added. I am using the latest PP beta version on my M1 Mackbook Pro and it does not handle 4K footage at all. I have to use proxies which are a pain the in buttocks, so I really want a computer to handle 4K without using proxies. I guess Adobe is still behind in updating PP for Apple Silicon even though they claim the Beta version works well. Will the next version of computers finally work with PP? Who knows. Thanks again for a great video.
I'd love to get a copy of the project files to test out my 18 core 10980xe with 2080TI and 128GB ram. Deciding if I need to upgrade at some point....even though I think I'm drive limited on an older Thunderbolt 2 raid that houses the media on my system as it reads at between 400-900MBps. I'd especially love to test out the MOGRT export test you did.
It would be a beautiful comparison test if it wasn't deliberately pro-mac :-) I understand that you are comparing an old macbook with a new one. But it is absolutely unfair to compare the TOP flagship macbook max M1 with a PC whose price is not even half of the Max M1. And when we talk about whether or not it is possible to cut 8K video from the EOS R5 on an old macbook... of course it is. Have you never heard of proxy files? You only need to generate proxy files for the 8K footage for the project and you can also edit on your old computer. Premiere PRO works then only with proxy preview files and uses heavy codecs from R5 8K or RAW only when exporting video. It's just one click of the mouse and a cup of coffee while it generates proxy files and no more waiting during editing.
Hey I am a new subscriber to your channel only a couple days old and I love your stuff you did a video on cleaning up the hair on after effects but the effects that you mentioned are no longer available color matcher and the one on matching your lighting those two plug-ins are no longer available can you tell us how to get them or what to use instead what do you just as good a job
Whats the battery life difference between this 3 machines? Like can I edit for hours on the M1 max on site? I know i could only last for a few hours on the other laptops with the core i7 for sure.
Love your content…thank you!! Question? I have a brand new Mac Studio with the M1 Max chip. I am using Adobe Cloud with Premiere Pro 2022 and opened a :30 sec commercial project that I imported into the new computer. It was not rendered, obviously…and when I rendered this small project with basically still photos and some motion titles it took about 4 minutes to render! I was really disappointed…thought I might have the fresh installation of Premiere Pro not configured properly…any ideas?
Hi Premiere Gal, Great Video. One thing I notice that the M1 Max did not give you real time playback of the Canon CRM 8k files. In Resolve 17 the canon crm playback in full res in realtime. Maybe check to see if adobe has and update for the M1 max because I see an editing program that's surely not optimize for the M1's. Hopefully Adobe gets this right.
Hey, yes, exactly and I did research and addressed it in the video. For now if you want to edit with .CRM you need to use 1/4 playback, but you can convert your files to ProRes and play 8k in full res on M1 MAX. That said, I don't see myself editing 8k anytime soon, but excited to be finally able to edit smooth 4k -- as my current Macbook Pro intel could not handle it. For now, I hope that smooth 8K .CRM is something that can be resolved from the software.
Great video :)) I was just wandering if you used Premiere Pro version 22.1.1, which was announced about a day ago and according to Adobe should be up to 5x faster?!
I have a 5950x and an RTX 3080 with an NVME and alot of files take hours to render from the AEJuice kit and playback is often painfully slow and I can't figure out why
One thing you did not address was cost. How much was the H1 Max Mac vs the powerful Dell? Is the H1's performance worth the money? That is the real question. Also, you kind of glossed over the transcoding to ProRes suggestion/issue. What is the time test result for that? All time needed in a workflow matters, right? Thanks. :-)
Hi, is this test made with te AE beta optimized for M1? My uncertainty about the M1 are the after effects and the dynamic link workflows. As well as the 3D plugins in premiere and after effects, like Element, Projection 3D and so on.
So the takeaway here is that Adobe is still not taking full advantage of Apple's hardware. Adobe has said Premiere will typically run about 15% faster in Windows. Shame. Shame. Shame.
Premiere Gal, does the M1 Pro ProRes codec chips speed up processing speed if you choose that codec or does it just make the file bigger? I am using Topaz Video AI to enhance videos. Topaz has a ProRes 422 codec but I can't tell if it makes the GPU or CPU load more making the file spit out faster or just a bigger file. Thanks if anyone knows this answer.
Hi thanks for this. Did you happen to use the brand new Premiere v.22.1.1 which just unlocked the extra access to the ProRes and H.265 chips? I suspect the results would be even more impressive.
The graphics card in the PC laptop is one of the weakest on the market and Dell is half price of the M1 Max... This is just random RU-vid content, this gal is just trying to make a buck. Not a relevant comparison...
Funny is I have 2017 macbookpro. Apple obviously said it is a kick ass machine and REAL PRO laptop. So we wasted $4000 for mmmm regular laptop. Now, battery almost dead, keyboard sucks. So overall it is just powerful internet browsing netbook. :D But damn, Intel should do something.
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motion graphics templates -- the template file that Premiere Pro can stores graphics as in the essential graphics panel, here is my full free course on essential graphics in Premiere: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8LRtrEPwzXc.html
I don't now as I don't have access to those, the dell has a Quadro RTX 4000. Every GPU is different. But the key difference here is that Macbook's are no longer intel, that's the main difference.
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Doesn't seem fair to not add a core i9 64MB, Radeon Pro 5600M 8 GB Intel macbook to the mix (but I'm not offering to give you mine). If you have something that is self contained that I could easily render, I'd be happy to run that and give you back the timings.
That’s why the Dell RTX Quadro 4000 with 64GB is there in the testing , the only reason I show my previous intel MacBook is to show how far it has come. The 2017 Macbook Pro (intel), it’s my current MacBook (the M1 MAX is a tester unit Apple sent me to try)
@@PremiereGal In my experience, the different GPU's, though in the same price range perform very differently with PR. I'd guess that the Dell and the new Intel MacBook's are not similar in performance. I've had several discussions with Kevin M over the years on the PR forums about what the GPU's do (and differently) with rendering, especially around h.264. Still happy to test render a sample. personally, I'd be interested to know the difference, as I expect at sometime, I will be compelled to replace my Intel MacBook with M1 and it would be interesting to know how well Adobe had adopted M1 so far.
@@PeterKellner99 Ah yes, definitely, use the console to run your test. From my tests, the render and encoding speed is far faster on the M1 than on Intels (even with computers that have NVIDIA RTX which has the new hardware encoding acceleration in Pr).
