My Michelin XRV tires lasted just at 6 years and 40k miles (full time) when the cracks went from very minor to ready to replace within about 6 months. I was very diligent in covering them 95 percent of the time. On one or 2 day stops I did not. Interesting to note no cracks on the inside sidewalls and the fronts were worse than the rears. I replaced them with Michelin XZE which have a much improved ride. I have class A gas coach....safe travels and thanks for the video.
You asked the question regarding this motorhome roll over, 'what did this driver do wrong?' I would venture to say he HIT the brakes hard....definitely NOT what you want to do. You have to fight the 'first response' to hit them. I'm a retired long-haul truck diver and have experienced blowouts on steer tires numerous times...not fun, but manageable. Just don't hit the brakes hard, go very easy (I would try not to use them at all) and let the coach slow down naturally just like you did. Fortunately too, you weren't going fast at the time. I do have a question why did the tire man take your wheel it looked fine.....at least he should have left you your hub cap? You were very lucky you didn't do any damage to your MH I carry an unmounted spare tire so I have one to swap out. Our coach has a special place for one. TOYO is a very good choice. I have heard a lot of bad things about Michelin. Also, I'm with you about strength over ride comfort.....I bet you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.
I do appreciate your reply, especially with all of your experience. You will see in the next video in the "Tire Mishap Series", why I had him put my wheel in the back of my Pickup. I now have a mounted spare hanging off the back of my Motorhome. So I knew that was coming. I was just waiting for my first Tire incident before I spent the money. he did give me the hub cap. That wheel is back on the rig. Roadside service could only find an Ironman tire. I never heard of Ironman Tires, so I really didnt want to use it on the rig, but it makes a lovely mounted spare. And to your Toyo point, I can't tell the difference in the ride. Thanks for watching, and thanks for commenting and sharing your professional experience and knowledge. See you on the road.
I have to say this is one of your best and most informative videos yet. Thank you for sharing this experience with us and your decision making process for going with Toyo tires. Very well-done and helpful. I always appreciate the humor Mike and it was good that Dawn was comfortable during the process. Happy wife - happy life - lol.
For some of us...keeping them happy is the hardest part of all! You can spoil them silly, and you're still often in the doghouse unfortunately....at least some of us.
I bought a set of Toyo's for my class C a few years ago, though my ride did change a bit, I've never regretted the purchase. I weigh my rig every time I set out on a trip and adjust my tire pressures according to the weight on each axel with the use of Toyo's tire inflation tables. Though you have a more heavier rig, I think you'll enjoy the performance of your new Toyo's. Great video
I have a class A coach, my tires were Michelins and had side wall cracking. They didn't have that tire anymore only in a directional, so I got Hankook tires and made a big difference in ride and better guarantee, and I paid about the same price as you did. Loving it.
@@RandomBitsRV I don't know if you seen my message earlier, but you asked me about my tires. I bought them at a local tire shop here in Sandy , Utah. The Hankook rides a lot better than the Michelins and a good warranty on them.
I bought 6 new Michelin tires right before we joined the FMCA. Then I saw the tire program. It hurt, but we got miles on them now so live and learn. We also opted for the Tyrons safety bands. Hopefully, if a steer tire blows we wont rip up our Alcoa rims. Our tag axle has the old steers that came with the coach and are in good shape. I am going to replace the steers at about 2 years and move them back to the tag. Then hopefully we can recoup some money. We like to carry a matching spare too. We saw your other video before this one. I put the question of carrying a spare up on one of the user groups I am a member of. It actually started an argument. Weight was the major argument as most of us have heavier coaches than you, Loaded , 50,000lbs.
I researched and found Toyo to be my choice of tire also, need to get a new set before heading out on the road this summer. I haven't heard anything bad with Toyo either. I just noticed a few cracks in my inner dual, my RV is sitting in storage facility atm while I pack up my house to sell, their date is 2013. I recently bought my RV and only went out camping once so far to get familiar with her, I knew they needed replacing when I bought it due to age. I have a TPMS picked out to purchase when I'm ready to hit the road with the new tires. I am also going full time. I also have Good Sam and the policy states they'll change a tire if you have a spare. I'm not sure what happens if I don't have one, I'll need to reread that section. My coach is gas and I don't think I have room to carry a spare, plus the added weight. I'll check out the video you mentioned about a spare tire after this one. Glad you were able to stop safely, especially with the blow out on a front tire!
nbws6 look at one of my previous videos regarding the Roadmaster spare tire carrier. You can carry a spare. Also, I have good Sam and they charged me for a new tire. But all they could find was a no-name tire. It’s now my spare. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thank you so much I am going to buy a 2002 Newmar Dutch star 4095 class a diesel pusher with the 8.3 L Cummins. Your research and what you have done is going to line me up for the future to come thank you.
I will never buy Michelins again. I've had 3 sets with severe sidewall cracking, even after just one year. I only continued with them because they did a partial warranty, but never again.
I replaced Michelin tires with Toyo tires on my 32 foot pusher and the steering became Squirrley. I now have a 42 foot with a tag and have Michelin‘s on it that need replacing. I will pay the extra money for the Michelin‘s. They are a great ride, and I don’t want this big rig to get Squirrley.
@@Jurornumber5 The rig would drift in a manner where it took more energy to steer. It took the fun out of driving. The rig tracked better with the Michelin tires and I enjoyed driving more. I did put a new set of Michelin tires on my Allegro Bus and it drives superbly. Almost $7k, so pretty costly, but a great ride!
@@Wanderingsomewhere145 Thanks for the quick response. I have a 2011 Allegro Breeze 32BR with TOYO M143's. It's my first experience driving a coach so I don't know what's normal. I have driven large Uhaul's and experienced the same type of slop in steering. Anyway, it's due for new tires and if I can improve the steering, that would be great. BTW, the previous owner had installed the Safe-T- Plus steering stabilizer, wonder if that has any adjustments to tighten her up?
@Wanderingsomewhere145 I’ve heard good results. But I don’t have one. I’ve also heard that tire bands are also a good investment. I don’t have any though.
I retired with 30+ yrs in the tire manufacturing industry so I've seen lots of tire problems. The right side of the vehicle is most likely to suffer "curb scuffing". This can lead to premature tire failure. You didn't say how old the tires were but that tire looked older. Toyo is a Japanese made tire but I'd have to know the Plant ID in the DOT plate to tell where the Michlin is made.
Hi Roy. The original tires that were visible were 2012. I was a little ticked that the inner duals were 2 years older. I did buy the motorhome 1 year old. So I don't believe the original owner messed with the tires at all. So that means that Freightliner put 2 year old tires on the inner positions. The tires are long gone, so I can't say where they were made. I'm aware that Toyo's are Japanese made. I'll let you know in 5 years how they are holding up. With your expertise, I'd love to hear your thoughts on which brand you would have used and why. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching and subscribing. Mike.
@@RandomBitsRV My preference is Firestone or Michelins, but that is based on past experience. Toyo is popular among RVers as well as OTR truckers. 16 ply is a great upgrade for safety.
Dec. 2, 2019----Thanks for the video. Don't mean it in a bad way, but I enjoy watching your disasters as they tell me what CAN happen when on the road. Looking at buying a used class A, but then, I have no intention of traveling full time.
I’m a truck driver you would have died going 70. You hit the gas. Get it in control then turn on the side the road with you engine brake full blast. I’ve been there a few times.
I really appreciate your advice!! I confess I understood the reasoning of speeding up to regain control of steering... but... I did not understand what you meant by 'with your engine brake full blast'.... can you please further explain that? THANK YOU!!
Awesome video! Very educational. Learned a lot watching. Glad you got some new tires for your home and that you made it safe after that blowout. I can only imagine how scary as $%&*#@# bleep, bleep that must have been . We've been going back and forth about investing in a TMPS. As in your situation, we hear stories of how they are great, but when the actual blowout is happening, they don't help. Proper tire pressure and visual monitoring of the tires seems to me to be the best option? Have a great day guys!
Stay on top of them. Also if you can’t afford all 6 at once, Put brand new on the front. Then replace the back down the road. Front are the most important.
@@RandomBitsRV Are you still happy with the Toyo tires. I have a really bad tire in the back. It looks like slits/cuts on the tire wall. The front ones are newer. I can’t afford all 4 tires on the back. Maybe 2. Should I replace the outside ones till next month.
Yes I am. I’m only 2 years into them, but I saved about a thousand dollars more than I could have saved with the FMCA discount. Sorry for the delay and we hope you are doing well. Stay safe!
Do you know how old your tires where, when you had a blow out? I'm seeing sparse checking on mine, which are now 6 years old, yet not that many miles, so was thinking it wouldn't hurt at least to change out the fronts this spring. The only thing with that would be that I'd possibly go with Toyo's as well, yet I'd have Michelin's on the rear! Seems crazy to change them out when they're looking new still, as well as hearing of a few that have had blow outs even with their new tires, but safety is definitely the defining issue here!
I believe they were original. The chassis is 2012. I don’t remember exactly, but let’s assume the tires were 2011. That video was around a year old. So assume they were about 8 years old. But I also discovered that Freightliner put tires that were 2 years older in the inner dual position. That was in bad taste. Since I never physically inspected the date on the inner duals, I just assumed they were all the same age. But not true. My inner duals were ten years old. Please error on the side of caution. Replace them sooner. I was lucky, but it could have been really bad. For what it’s worth, I’d probably run the rears longer, as long as they still looked good. But I won’t risk with the steer tires. Good luck.
I am a OTR owner operator driver with over 25 years exp. I bought a Tiffin Phateon Coach 4 years ago, and I have the same Toyo tires on my coach. You did your research, got a comparable tire for lot less. Smart decision, Safe Travels !
You left those tires on way too long. Checking like that is just dangerous. Change out those steer tires at 7 or 8 years. And do not forget most truck tires are rated to only 75 mph so all these trucks and RVs doing 85 and more on the interstates are a threat. I also did not see any torque wrenches being used. And, you should have loose wheel nut indicators on all of those wheel nuts.
You’re a little late to the party. This video was posted in 2019 and these new replacement tires are going to be replaced soon. But thank you for watching.
Hi Michael, Good Sam paid for the service call. I paid for the tire and rim. My previous video showed the events of the day I had the blow-out. That video is here... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KcvXkZrNNsw.html THanks for watching and commenting.
might be different now but i ran a fleet of 18 wheelers back in the 90s. i stopped using Michelin because so many of them blew out causing major damage to components under the trucks.
Yeah those Michelin‘s were pretty bad, They have an acceptable cracking chart and those We’re probably on the nonacceptable side. Did good Sam cover the cost of the spare and the roadside or was it extra
I have had Motorhomes for close to 40 years and I can’t believe anyone would drive across the street with tires that looked like the ones in the video.
Great job. We are looking to get a Class A in the next 12 months and have been watching a lot of RV youtube videos. This video is among the best with very useful information and the least cost on tires of any that I have seen. Again Great job. I will keep watching.
I have order 6 toyo m154 245 75 22.5 that have a stronger side wall witch shood last langar I wood advise if you see eney cracks to tack them off thay are a time boom to blow to replace my missile 235 80 22.5 thay wear only 5 year old bay the dat on them
I had Goodyear’s on the class A I bought , after sound advice from my tire dealer, I put the same tires you did on my steers. In 2 years will move steers to back and buy 4, putting 2 news on steering. Michelin is a darn good tire, Toyo, Continental are good smart cost savings. Take the savings, align the coach, and change some shocks with the extra cash. They will age out unless it’s a tour bus
Really nice follow up video to your blow-out video. Since I've begun researching for my first RV purchase, this information is fantastic. Thanks for sharing this Mike!
Glad your home got some new shoes! Sounds like you made a good call on the Toyo’s I have always been a Michelin fan as well but have gone for other brands depending on the deal! Be safe and see ya on the road!
The one thing you NEVER do with a steer tire blow out is hit the brakes. If you hit the brakes (even slightly) it will immediately jerk the wheel to the side of the blowout which is what occurred in that first video. At the 00:24 mark you can see his brake lights come on just before it swerves to the left.
