NEW Nissan GT-R Nismo: Is It Worth $212K? Road And Track Review | Carfection 4K 

JD you are absolutely right!

Hilariously correct, as it's all relative to the market. 2007 vehicles vs 2019 vehicles

So it was actually ahead of its time?

A GT3 is still more analog.

which is good

The Nismo wasn't 69k when it launched.

This car will be around 80k in no time

@@apt62I don't really think so, this is the last and best version of once such a dominant beast so I think price will actually increase just like the old spec-V

@@pharaongaming8617 nobody will care once the r36 comes out

this is not the bread and butter version of the GTR though. The first R35 Nismo was around 150k usd

The standard car hasn't gone up in price by 3 times....

The normal gtr costs 120.000. Its true the gtr was a steal 10 years ago. I also think it is overpriced today. But you can't compare the old base version with newest most expensive one

@@clemfandango2379 You're looking at a track-tuned car. Every Nismo is waaaaay more expensive than the standard production Nissan's.

@@clemfandango2379 Does the same not apply to any supercar on the market? Why pay $400k for a Lamborghini when you can buy a Supra and stick a monster turbo on it? It's always going to cost a bomb for a "proper" sports/racing suspension, the carbon fibre panels, the exhaust etc. I'm not saying it's good value. I'm saying this is no more a normal GTR, than a high spec 5-series is an M5.

@Joel Schembri Never said anything about it being faster. Totally irrelevant, but at least you got your opinion in 👍

in the uk you can get a 2009 one for under £30,000

@@diffypoo 10 year old car? definitely no moneypit at all

reverse R35s are known for being pretty reliable and parts are relatively cheap because of how many of them were sold here

@@diffypoo the older models have some problems though and 40k usd is still a lot of money for a 10 year old japanese car.

​@@reverz3 I mean the R32-33-34 are all still going strong, compared to other cars from that era, some even cost more than a R35 in the UK but overhaul they are a solid reliable car, with mainly consumable items only needing to be replaced and regular maintenance.

Id take the Porsche GT3 RS anyday over the R35 Nismo for track performance. The Porsche is rear engine rear wheel drive to put all the power in the back and to corner at much higher speed. The Nismo will keep up with the Porsche on long straight aways but cornering...The Porsche would corner like its on rails compared to the Nismo

@no0thanks Many counter-arguments could be made but the R35 is not a $200k car, no matter how you spin it.

@@tjk9263 I may well be wrong, but on the contrary to what you say, any 4WD I've driven is far faster around the bends and slower on the straights. Not that I'd disagree with you and buy a Porsche rather than this!

Or a 2018 ZR1 for 130k

no0thanks Go to the dealer. I just bought one 3 days for asking price.

Agreed, or they should just sell this car for a reasonable price.

They need an AWD mid-engined light weight GTR successor.

Just think, you could own an R32, R33, AND an older R35 for less than just this ONE R35! And still have a ton of money left over! The R34 isn't legal in the US yet so it's not exactly a "complete" collection but still quite impressive...go spend the other 70-80k on literally anything else! lmao

R35 wasn't around when the first GT came out. Maybe an older R model?

@@therealdubs GTR collectively

They've come a long way since the days of "no highs, no lows, must be Bose". Get your head out of the sand..

@@thatebutuoyguy788 He's commenting on the weight, not the sound.

Take a look at the gt2 rs... There is carbon Fibre everywhere to save weight - and a sat nav

@@thatebutuoyguy788 that's embarrassing ..get your head out of your arse 😆

Maybe it's a hardcore, track focused stereo?

It didn’t have good character, just fab numbers. Now it has both BUT its price is stupid.

People needed some time to catch up to the gtr. It was ahead of its time. It is at its prime now though I just wish Nissan would unleash the true potential of that engine and let it make well over 600hp.

@Joel Schembri it's a steel chassis a camaro zl1 or mustang GT500 are even heavier unless they go aluminium it cannot be lighter with the same size so it's pretty good for what it is strong and stiff they can get alot more performance out of it with more power and upgrades if they want to. I'd buy that over a hybrid version any day.

@@cardude1992 Then make it smaller. Nobody needs it to be as big as it is. Could go smaller and aluminum chassis

@Joel Schembri I meant upgrade everything not just power. They could also revise the chassis make it smaller and lighter. But they won't do that because they'd rather invest on the new hybrid successor. Ew.

Ye, the thing is though. The GTR never had any bugs to speak of, infact they are pretty solid cars.

It's not outdated. The Nismo is still faster than any other car around that price like the 570s or the AMG GTR.

@@Orcawhale1 does a faulty gearbox count as one ? it breaks easily

@@hasaanmasood gearbox was fixed and vastly improved from 2014 onward. If any had tgat had gearbox issues it's because asshole were doing launch control every red light.

@@hasaanmasood A weak gearbox, is not the same as a bug.

Nishant Dash This guy gets it

this is a best comment in this comment section quite frankly

For the same or less money what would you buy?

Nishant Dash this guy, i like this guy. This guy noticed the trend with GT-R having special editions before its end of life. R32 v-spec 2, r33 nismo 400r, r34 v-spec2 nur, z-tune, M-spec

@@cr2989 3 C8 corvettes for less and probaley as good or better. The audi r8 is about the same price but a v10 :). Couple nice Aston Martin's I'd buy for around 200k aswell. Or you got the huracan for around 200k+ I believe.

Or get a C8.

I love how people complain about price... the people that are actually buying the nismo gtr...im sorry to say but they alrdy have lambos and McLaren's sitting in their lot. Nissan never intended to sell their cars to people that aren't gonna buy it... they're targeting rich people, even if the gtr was priced at 300k, people will buy it lol.

Yep. Pretty much

@Brad Viviviyal when they first came out it was a problem

That car is not a standard GT-R. It is a special version and is not for everybody. Personally I do not like the idea of the GT-R and would prefer a natural V8 for the noise and fun.

Yup that plastic car is so reliable lmao.

Oh boi..im 110% sure you're fanboing right now. It's always like that when a new car comes and you like it so much that every other cars seems like not worth it. I've been there and i know how wrong i was with my previous choices. Gt-R is a solid machine. American cars aren't.

For me, Its worth & value comes down to what you get for the price you pay. & the Corvette C8 has a very intriguing value for a V8 mid-engine mounted super car. I myself like the Mustang GT350, but if I am to pay more than the price of a GT350, the only American car that I'd like to get is C8 Corvette & before C8 I wasn't a fan of Corvettes.

@@bojidarmartinov5949 yeah but for 70k max you get a very capable super car. It definitely won't be very reliable, most likely be made like a Lego car but it's still a very compelling package. And most people who "buy" these sort of cars will be leased so reliability is not an issue at all. It breaks down , they supply u with a replacement till they get yours fixed.. simple...mid engined v8 500bhp ..try and find another brand new car with that setup for less than 100k.

@@pollumG another American garbage? I can find you alot. It's not uncommon to see 500bhp american cars for under 100k

@@yamiah03 well, he probably wouldnt mind..

Ken Grand at this price u can buy a brand new 570s

@@WilliamDiep or that new bmw m8 coupe

Jimmyqballs right? Insane.

@@niftycritter1870 In all fairness it is not a standard GT-R and is one of their specialist build cars for hardcore wealthy GT-R fanboys. The chances are anybody who can afford that GT-R may also have other nice cars. Now I find it a silly car that is just a turbo wind bag but to others it is probably a dream car.

@@bighands69 there is no such thing as a hardcore wealthy gtr fanbois this car sold just 8 units in canada in 2019 just 8 that should tell u something

You can't Nissan will make sure same way you can't make a 911 look like a GT3....the professionals will notice the difference. ..

@@pratik1568 That means nothing....this edition is Limited...hence The price....8 in Canada. ...in Germany...China...Kuwait...Dubai...L.A....New York...UK. .Switzerland. ..Sydney..Shanghai. ..Paris...Moscow...Italy...Monaco... there is a Long waiting list across the globe.from Collectors to Playboys..😂😂😂

Oy I'm from the future. Lucky you, lucky everyone.

Iggi_boi yup you’re right. And maybe audi will make a street version of the R8 GT2

This non-special edition is the same price as the cars it has the same performance as, so it's not overpriced. The standard car is under-priced.

I guess they didn't notice the numbers on the new C8 Corvette that sells for $60k-$70k.

@@norwegianblue2017 C8 corvette will shake it's self loose in 6 months.

@@santclause1 You're about two models too late with that nonsense.

@@norwegianblue2017 keep telling yourself that. you put an order in yet? in not wtf you msg back for.

The TOP OF THE RANGE version is not sold for what its worth as far as materials, its sold for what people are willing to pay, they are also made in smaller quantity i believe which increases the price. The non-nismo is more geared towards value for money. If i had the money (and i will in about 5 years) Id buy a 2 year old Nismo. or 1 year old black edition.

honestly, the c8 doesn’t matter cause the GTR has been around since i was 17 years old.....i’m 30 now😑

It was moot from price announcement. The r8 with a lambo V10!!! Is cheaper and way nicer.

@@bigjdm5460 you do know how long corvette has been around for right?

Or wait for the C8?

@@christophejergales7852 Yeah and buy 3 of them :)

@@vagabundo6409 wouldn't that be sweet...

Christophe Jergales - Bro Nismo GTR vs C8 on the track? It’s not even gonna be close.

@@VeriStrawberi If I could understand your message, I would respond.

Of course it is!

For 180K?

A 992 GT3 is a far better car for cheaper price than the GTR itself

Me too. $200k for Nissan

Those two cars have a very different philosophy of going fast. But at the end of the day the Nismo is faster in real world. Its real competitor would be the 911 turbo models.

booooring

but porsche are ugly

cardude1992 I don’t care about which one is faster I’m not trying to win any races, I’m not paying 200k for a Nissan when I can get one of the most iconic cars for the same money.

At 200k it's the same price as the super cars

At the same price as the Turbo S, this car has no legs.

But what would you rather use to pick up kids and groceries? The appeal of the GT-R is it's basically what you would get tuning a normal sedan to perform like a Ferrari, it's the best balance of everyday convenience and bleeding edge speed that any manufacturer has ever produced. The real test is trying to live out of your weekend track toy.

@@budthecyborg4575 The backseat in a GT-R isn't anymore spacious than the one in a 911. You can barely fit a kid back there comfortably and that's about it. There's no real practical advantage over a 911, especially an AWD one like the Turbo S. The Porsche also rides better. The Nismo has a uniqeness/rarity about it I guess.

So you're a boring middle aged man going through a mid life crisis?

www.cargurus.com/Cars/compare/Porsche-911-vs-Nissan-GT-R_d404_d1103 Nissan GT-R has 91% more cargo volume than a 911.

I'm not a GTR fan but there's no way I'd buy a fiberglass Corvette shitbox.

@@thof8287 bruh

Hell fucking no

And the dog

@@SylentONE let's not forget about the doggy

Yeah, it could be much better without back seats like the gt3rs

Fantic1980 show me a used aventador for that price range

Anton Polishko Not sure where you live, but in the UK there are about 10 Aventadors for sale at £185k or less on Autotrader... Lamborghinis really don’t hold their value well at all.

For £180k I could list 20 cars I’d buy before the Nissan without even trying!

YES!!. 720S or the 600LT

colin hawks me too, but the nissan will have smaller panelgaps, the windows will close properly, you won't have electronics problems and will be more reliable :)

Rather put toward home (I'd never have that amount of money anyway)

so very very booooooring

Horrible McLaren rubbish imo

csllover 220k+ in some countries LOL.

The thing is though, it seems overpriced compared to the standard car, but that just shows what good value the standard car is. The Nismo holds its own easily among similarly priced cars.

David I don’t think the standard car is even a good price considering how dated it is now. There are many more modern cars with better value and the C8 stingray is just around the corner.

Evan Mulcahy both of those are $100k more than the GTR Nismo at base. With options add $50k-$100k on top of that.

Joel Schembri 600LT is also $100k more as is Huracan Performante. AMG GTR and GT3RS are similar price enough and nicer interiors with better brands. So ya :)

Yes European cars are the only cars worthy to cost more..all other regions are inferior...

Exactly

That is not a standard GT-R. It is a special version. Japanese car manufacturers are notorious for releasing very expensive special cars. It does not mean it is the fast or more hardcore just special.

bighand69 ok I still prefer a mclaren or a Porsche

You all say, for the same price, the GT3RS "Will" humiliate the GT-R on track but, The question is are "you" going to be able to do the same?! Some cars and harder to drive than others. You might lap the Nordschleife better in a GT-R than in a GT3RS. Not everyone is a trained race car driver who has been driving GT3RS race cars for a living... and the same vice versa. The GTR is built on being able to drive *(Not everyone is a trained driver - that's why it weighs so much. The weight isn't a mistake but rather the creator himself wanted it that way because weight aids in handling. and the 4WD Chassis is built in ways to allow the drivetrain to juggle torque around like theirs a super computer on board)* So no question about it, everyone in this comments section who isn't an experienced race car driver will do a better time at the Nordschleife in the GT-R Nismo than they will ever dream to in the GT3RS. (Though not tried and tested, i'm pretty sure that's a fact) Here, the current model year GT-R Nismo is around AU$379K Excl. Govt. Charges (And there's really only 1 model as far as options are in question) whereas the GT3RS is around AU$450K Excl. Govt. Charges (Before going into things like Weissach package which can get up to as much as AU$34K before considering the Magnessium wheel option of that package.) The current MY GT-R Nismo with all its improvements, add the N Attack Package to match the current MY GT3RS price with the Weissach Package and it's optional magnessium alloy wheels. These cars would be fun to watch battle for laptimes around the Nordschleife behind some of the brilliant racing drivers in the world. *With cars like these, most of their parts are exclusive from different manufactures so chances are the profits aren't that much even after a price jump.* *Even from the N Attack Package as well which i'm pretty sure parts have to be ordered otherwise Nissan would lose a lot of money from Mass Production.* Everybody questions the price of the Nismo N Attack Package but nobody questions the Weissach Package... I guess AU$34+K is excusable cause Porsche is an exotic big name Nismo N Attack Package: Approx. AU$119K - *This package was an actual development program - notice that the parts are exclusively allocated, not a weight saving package!* - Dedicated Carbon intercooler piping - Dedicated ECM & TCM - Dedicated Mechanical Front 1.5 Way Steel Plate L.S.D. - Dedicated Mechanical Rear 2 Way Carbon Plate L.S.D. - Dedicated OHLINS, height adjustable, 4WAY Damping force adjusted shocks and springs - Dedicated Variable roll-rigidity stabilizers - Dedicated Altered friction material (Don't the materials used but could be a carbon composite type) front brake pads - Dedicated Dry carbon front fenders (They feature an aero flick found on their GT3 race car) - Dedicated front rubber add-on spoiler (Could be the rubber lip under the splitter of the current GT-R Nismo) - Dedicated carbon rear wing (Dry Carbon blade with aluminium legs and Dry Carbon covers) - Dedicated (Ever only seen these seats on the N Attack) Recaro carbon shell full bucket seats (both sides) - Dry carbon rear bulkhead and Rear seat Quilting cross mat finisher

Just look how "special" 370z nismo is, it starves of fuel if you drive right turns! Those nismo boys sure know how to make 'em special!

Why?

No fucking way. Get is faster and quicker and over a 100 more horsepower

Absolutely! Quicker round a track, will hold value way better and doesn't look like a transformer.

@@SZUSEast1 gtr is slower around a track than the gt3 rs, is uglier, sounds worse with a worse interior and weighs 600 pounds more than the porsche

Me too. GT3 plus u get 3 padal. I'm not spend my hard earning money to buy Nissan

That price is about right for luxury cars. A top AMG back in the mid noughties would cost about $50,000 today you are looking at in excess of $100,000. Porsche now sell naturally aspirated cars for about $200,000 it is rumored that the GT3 is going turbo as well.

Ziggy Freud all cars will go through the same cycle. Cool to meh to cool again.

@@apt62 True. Good point.

not a bit. horrible value for money now considering the new Vette. the design language looks dated

Looks the same since the 997.

Joseph Lamonica the newer the car, the uglier they get. Trust me C8 Corvette is good for price but ugly as hell. GT-R's aren't all about looks but honestly this one or the 2017+ Nismo, are the best looking GT-R.

A.W A looks are a matter of opinion and most people agree the C8 is great looking. Not to mention the fact that it’s just simply a better car. (More luxurious, less expensive, more performance, better technology etc)

I agree for the C8. No point for paying 200k for a 2020 gtr when you're going to modify it and maybe even wrap it.

Joseph LaMonica what was the c8 laptime at the nurburgring again? 🤔

Joseph LaMonica Your comparing a car that’s been proven over a decade to a car that hasn’t come out yet and a company that has a poor port folio.

C8 Stingray is a lot less than half of the R35 you may even get the c8 Z06 (dare I say even the ZR1) for much less than this

1/3rd of a price

But it's no where near as fast or as good looking and you'll look like a massive twat.

yes but is the c8 a last and best edition of once such a dominant beast? this will probably appreciate in price just like the r34 V spec did

@@David-ud9ju Idk I think the GTR is higher in twat factor. At least here in America.

Is that a factory package

You mean 80K cheaper? Last time i checked it cost 100K.