I have a newer batch of Layton and Carlisle. Both are as potent and amazing as they’ve always been. I’m fairly certain if they didn’t have the % on the bottle,…no one would notice a dang thing.
No there's definitely a performance difference I have both carlise and layton bottles from 2020 and the latest reform in 2021 and its missing something like the guy in the video said and it just doesn't last I get 6-8 hours with the new batches and 10 plus hours with the old
@@DarkKnight--22 slight performance difference, 82 doesn’t last as long but the 82 smells better in my opinion because it got rid of the menthol note, i wasn’t the biggest fan of the original for some reason but it grew on me and then i smelled this batch and i absolutely love it
I have the old formulation 78% and new formulation 82%. Not only is the menthol note gone from the open in 82% it is crazy weak i can barely smell it. The 78% old formulation was a projection monster I would get compliments left and right but the new formulation is almost just a skin scent. I wish I knew this before buying the new bottle.
Great video, absolutely on point. Its true that EU banned Lilial which led manufacturers rework their fragrances. In modern perfumery, especially at big companies like Firmenich, there are alternative ingredients ready so no need to panic 🙃
@@razvanyke You are right! This is a general problem of the industry :) All of them want to preserve the ratio of extremely high margin and increase their prices over time.
The first time I tried Layton about 2 years ago from a sample decant, it blew my mind. It lasted 14 hours and had this addictive and very appealing smell. Finally bought a bottle last month and it just doesn’t have the same effect on me. Maybe it’s because I’m used to the smell and it’s not new anymore. But I’m pretty convinced the formula has changed quite a bit. Mine smells more floral, fresh clothing kind of smell on the opening. The one I tried years ago had this rich apple vanilla kind of smell that was addictive. I know it’s not fake because I bought it from selfridges but it’s so disappointing.
Friend of mine recently bought one of the new bottles with 82% and 7-digit batch code, and he said that he immediately noticed a drop in performance. We decided to experiment - he brought it to work, applied it to his wrist and sure enough, no more than 3 hours later I could barely smell it on him. He works in a different department so it's not like we are next to each other the whole day. The scent is still great, but that performance is not something I would ever spend that kind of money on.
This is great to know! I am just looking into getting PDM Layton as my first fragrance and I was worried it wouldn't be as nice as the older formulation that I had heard so much about, but I am relieved that it is not so different😅
Have the 82% and it sucks. 78% had this freshness and airyness to it that this one doesn't have. 82% is flat and it doesn't push off my skin and doesn't last. I'm disappointed
I totally understand what you mean. Hopefully as your bottle get older it will develop more depth and will be better performing. It's important to remember that as the fragrance gets older, and more air gets inside the bottle - it can increase the performance and scent some what. This has happened to me a few times now
The new formulation does not last as long and it smells different. Parfums de Marly fragrances are ALWAYS getting reformulated and become much weaker than their ORIGINAL releases. Parfums de Marly HAS NOT been transparent when it comes to the reformulation of their fragrances. Carlisle, Herod & Oajan have also been reformulated and have 3%-4% more alcohol in newer batches.
Will you STOP!! You’re leaving this comment everywhere! What do you have a ton of boxes of the first formula that you’re reselling for $$$$$? Geez man 😂
@@kimberlyrose984 I posted a FYI note 11 months ago and it bothers you all these months later. I have 1 older bottle of Layton. I wish I had more bottles because I do not like the new formulation. The First Amendment and freedom of speech no longer exists in America. If somebody does not like what you have to say, you get hate.
Dang girl, he really got you with his passion for the older batch. The guy is just upset, thats all. Reformulations that change the fragrances we love are always a big pain in the ass. @@kimberlyrose984
I just bought Layton and it sad to say that I’m disappointed it does not last on my skin or on my cloths at all. I sprayed it six times on my skin and after 4 hours I don’t smell anything. I love the smell though.
Percival still Performing and Projecting very good, lasts 10+ hours on my skin with a very good projection. With that being said, I’ll think that the PdMs are still worth the money if you liked the „old“ formulations.
I bought reformulated one (2021 batch). It was really weak not as rich as pre-reformulated decant i had and performance awful (last 4 hrs). I used 15-20 sprays and threw it back to my shelf. After almost 3 months, i decided to give it another try, i was very surprised that my layton really potent and perform much much better almost as good as decant i used to have. If you guys had problem with new batch lately i would suggest to let it sit for a while and try again. I would definitely leave my layton sit for one or two months hopefully it will get stronger.
Update: I spent last 2 weeks wearing this. - the juice gets a bit stronger from last time (i don’t really think it will get any stronger) - both pre and post reformulates are 90% similar. If you wanna detect the difference, you have dig your nose in. I would say they are very close and ppl around you wouldn’t notice any difference. The whiff of it still amazing - reformulated one less spicy but woodier (this is weird but i think it’s rounder). The menthol vibe ppl talking about is gone. - i get solid 8-9 hours longevity. Strong projection for first 2 hours ( the juice is really strong almost get me cloy. Don’t overspray it!) I don’t think it’s woth to pay for overpriced old formula batch. They are 90% similar as i mentioned. There are plenty better option in the market. I would suggest you all to try xerjoff tony iommi.
Macerating or aging works for some perfumes better than others. I found that aging PDM works well due to the large amount of naturals in their formulations. I find that the new batches of Oajan, however, are just awful, full of synthetic airy woods, so I did go and snag a bottle of the vintage stuff on eBay. Some are worth it, some are not.
I have both but I rather go for the new reformulation over the old. When I got 2016 it has a minty smell in the opening. The vanilla smell was real thick and heavy. Good for the cold weather for me. The new batch is more versatile and can use on any occasion. The performance is good.
That’s a great description mate. I agree completely. I personally prefer the older batches because I love the menthol and thick vanilla - but I also agree the newer batches are more versatile
I have my old 2019 bottle and my new 2022 bottle and they are pretty much the same thing. I think some people get too worked up about the smallest differences. Like the guy said, only thing that lacks in the new one is menthol note, other than that performance is great on both
Funny thing is:I have a bottle that is about 2 years old and the menthol note has become much more pronounced over the past 2 years for sure. I agree with you that people get too hung up on these things though. I mean, you can read reviews where people swear they got a fake and you find out that they bought it direct from Macy's or similar stores that would never sell a counterfeit.
I have a small sample of Layton, presumably the newer batch. I’ve never smelled the original one, don’t intend to, and am not too worried about obtaining the old batch. For me this sample objectively as it it smells fantastic, has great projection and superb sillage. For me as it is it’s a winner, I have no frame of reference with the old one so I like it quite a lot as it is. So for now I’ll just enjoy my humble sample, maybe get another one or a bigger one or maybe even a full bottle one day if I save up. It smells unique, smells expensive, and it’s great. Just my two cents!
I have a 2015 bottle that was running low so I found a tester (new in box) from 2019. I purchased it less than a month ago. Both are 78% alcohol but they smell different. The 2015 lost some of its top notes while the 2019 is how I remembered the 2015 when new. It’s splitting hairs though. I have a few frags that have changed over time. People always complain about reformulations but in my experience, many fragrances get richer and lose a little something off the top when they’re sitting on you shelf for years. I have a couple that the alcohol must have evaporated and are now straight oil. I can’t comment on the 82% batches but I suspect if you’ve never smelled the original, you’ll still be happy. One more thing, Al Haramain Detour Noir is close that I can hardly tell the difference between this and Layton.
I am planning on buying an old batch bottle of Layton from 2018. It still has 122ML of 125ML, you reckon it's still good? And if so, how long can I still use the bottle?
@@j.i1503 after your comment, I wore some of my 2015 batch today. It’s still good. If you like the scent, go for it. My experience is that only frags that have a lot of naturals in them change slightly. Layton isn’t one of them.
I bought a layton last month and when i tried it at the store it lasted all day but the one i bought the 82 pct one it only last about 2 hours then it become a skin sent i wish i bought another one from the brand
I got a new formulation bottle from a discounter and paid around $160, found Orientica Royal Bleu to be superior, at roughly half the price. Forgot to add, that Layton was my 2nd bottle, first one I got in early 2021 til it ran out.
@@JStorm310 I've been testing it more often, since I originally bought this. I found testing this to be a bit hard, due to the ISO E Super in it making me a bit nose blind. Others could definitely still smell it on me. Depends on how many sprays I put on. Projection is pretty good, I'd say about 2-3 hours of strong projection, and then eventually turns to a mostly vanilla scent. Overall, when I spray about 10-12 sprays on my skin, it lasts me about 8-10 hours. On clothes, the vanilla scent lingers easily for about 2-3 days. So if you reuse a jacket/coat, you can spray it on there and get good bang for your buck. With the sillage, I'd say it's moderate. As in, the cloud trail doesn't linger as long as I thought it would, but still there. Hope that helps!
I was wondering why my new bottle smelled a little different, I had 2 of the previous batch, when 1 ran out this year I ordered another bottle. Now I have 1 of the new and 1 of the old. I save the old batch for night action , and new bottle for daytime usage
I bought Layton last year after trying a decant. The decant was very heavy on the menthol, and I was quite disappointed with my purchase. I thought I'd bought a fake! 😂 Although I'm not obsessed, I do dislike reformulations, and IFRA are a negative force imo.
Yeah the menthol note was very divisive in the community with some loving it and some hating it. I believe that's why PDM have toned it right down in these newer batches
Hi Bro. I want to buy Pdm Layton, and I don’t experienced the old one. But after watching your video I loose my heart because the only available layton is 82 percent volume and 2022 batch and I really wanna wear this fragrance. What should I do. Please let me know.
I have a June 2021 batch (82%). I never tried an older batch although I do have an Alexandria clone from a few years back that’s meant to be very close. Anyway, no issues with my bottle, subtle menthol in the opening which is perfectly balanced, if this was dialled up I think it would be off putting. In terms of performance, I never had an issue but I do think it’s got even stronger over the last 6 months. Heavy scent trail which is deceiving because I thought it was gone, but got a compliment about 2 hours after I applied it from about 6 feet away. I do use 10-12 sprays though. I can smell it on me the next day, but as a skin scent.
I just bought an 82% Layton blind buy, it’s coming soon, and idk what the 78% smells like either. How much stronger has it gotten compared to when you first bought it?
@@alexanderm4477 yes it lasts me atleast 8 hours. It eventually does get hard to tell if it lasts longer than that because you can go nose blind to fragrances. It’s my second favourite fragrance in my whole collection, gotten a handful of compliments too
@@jackaroofragranceguru That’s good to hear. Some people say the 82% have bad performance and some say it’s good so it’s difficult to know what to believe
Dude damm 10-12 sprays??? You must clear rooms lol. Either that or it’s gotten so much weaker because there is no way I would do that with my Layton-78%. 2 sprays if I’m indoors and 3-4 sprays max if I’m at an outdoor beer fest in late fall. And even then 4 would be pushing it lol.
This has well put me off getting Layton now 😭 I so wanted too get this. Help me guy's is it still worth it??? I'm hearing some not even lasting 2 hour's??? Surely that's not right for the price 😳
Old batch is much better... had much stronger notes and lasted hours longer on my skin. I used to get compliments on the older batch. but the last bottle i purchased is a disappointment. I would even describe it as a fake cheap recreation although i know it is genuine product.
Agreed old batch is definitely better. With my 2 batches the opening/mid are different but the dry down is very similar. It's a shame this happens to our favourite fragrances
I'm so happy I've got a march 2020 batch, it's almost full, I'm not gonna buy this perfume anymore, I'm just gonna use mine only in special occasions, when it's finished I'm probably not gonna buy it again.
avoid anything from 2022 fo the price they are charging ..on me they changed more than alcohol % ...and definitely went from 7-8 hours to 3-4 hours depending on how much you spray..ALTERNATIVE Loyal Agar or Detour Noir both 95+% and EDP performance of old batch..just my opinion
@@jewelersofwhale give it time to macerate, I found my 2020 batch was poor performing but after a few months it changed to excellent performance and richer scent I would say.
Hi there, I have just subscribed to your channel, I'm a fan of your reviews. Can you please shower some light on the two fragrance that are on your left back while you are reviewing. If I'm not wrong it is from Ahmad Al Qurashi or from Carolina Herrera. I just wanted to know about their performance. Please reply. Thank's Nitin
I am planning on buying an old batch bottle of Layton from 2018. It still has 122ML of 125ML, you guys reckon it's still good? And if so, how long can I still use the bottle?
I have a 2021 batch. And dude it is strong af. Only 2 sprays and i leave a scent trail werever i go . Which i was constantly told almost every time i wore. And as far as bouncing if my skin it did. I could easily get wiffs of it throught the wear. So i dont know if i i got the new formulation or mid new i dont care because in my skin it works wonders. By the way my batch smells strong in vanilla and spicy note
That’s awesome, glad it works really well for you. Typically the newer batches with say 82% on the bottom of the bottle, whilst the older ones will not have the % on the bottle. If you still have the box it would clarify for sure. Every chance you have the older batch still
@visionaryfragrances oh well in that case mines actually doesn't say the % at the bottom. So I guess I have a older batch 😅 thx for letting me know that .
I just purchased from oryginnal PDM shop 82%.. complete dissapointment... Not the same parfume, somd similarities, but verry, verry weak, not lasting not projecting..
I have a question I`ve just got a 78% batch Layton. The thing it says 2015 at the botton side of the box and it doesnt have a QR code. Can anyone help me understand whether I have a fake version?
Hi, unfortunately, we reformulated all the tops, herod, layton, layton exclusive, carlais, even pegasus exclusive, everything comes in a concentration of 82% !!! Batch code 2021-2022...
Thanks. Carlisle is also reformulated. I’m not really happy about it. It’s really sad. I‘ll never buy pdm and xerjoff - Naxos because of reformulation.
Performance can get better in some fragrances over time as more oxygen gets into the bottle and the chemicals/natural oils macerate. I've had a few fragrances get better (longer lasting/richer) over time but the difference will not be massive
@@BIGHH81 thats pretty, even more sad that i know im a week late since my local shop just restock with a new batch. Pretty sure they had the old batch a week ago
Hey man. I just received my bottle of latest batch, its 2292153 Production date 2022-07-18 it seems different from the sample I had this winter, but not 100% sure.
I got a week ago a new bottle of Layton ( batch 2292153) and it really sucks , it smells for like 2 hours and then disappears not worth anymore . Pathetic
@@visionaryfragrances thanks for your advice but it doesn’t change anything , this isn’t worth 250€ anymore especially if I have to wait weeks or month
@@mayrokspsn9068Same goes for current Herod. "Pathetic" is an understatement of monumental proportions. After 15 glorious minutes it dries down to a boring lifeless weak buttery scent. I wouldn't pay more than 50$ for it. Not even that. On a different note, I've found a 78% Oajan bottle yesterday. The last one in my country. I was lucky.
Your decant most likely was from a bottle that had time to macerate and get seemingly stronger over time. So you should give the 82% bottle more time to macerate since the bottles don't get time to macerate as soon as they are filled at the factory. After letting the bottle macerate, then I recommend you compare the two
Maceration has a part to play in most fragrances, however in the newer Layton batches there is a change, or removal of ingredients which has affected the smell and overall quality in my opinion
It’s an ego thing , of course everyone that has a slightly more potent formulation will trumpet how there’s is better and they have the good stuff and the rest of us don’t , like good for you , the rest of us are quite happy with our so called watered down PDM juice . 😂
For me, I just found the whole reformulation thing with PDM very sad so I decided to compare them. I have also noticed big differences in my latest Pegasus and Kalan. This video is simply to educate and explain why if you owned a PDM years ago, why you are getting a different fragrance if purchased recently
