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New Project - Suzuki TU 250 X - But can we fix it? 

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@tracklifex5259
@tracklifex5259 4 года назад
Hi mate, I watched it twice and looked online. I know you put the parts in your sonic cleaner but I think you still have a blocked pilot jet. The choke on and the main jet raised are compensating the fuel flow at idle/part throttle. I have seen similar symptoms from sitting with stale fuel as the jet is tiny. Cheep to replace. Hope this helps 👍🍺🍺
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I ripped it apart and cleaned it all...all apart from air screw...where I think the problem is?
@umairgulfam6888
@umairgulfam6888 4 года назад
@@MackieBass hi.. Am Planing to Buy Suzuki Tu250x From Auction... How Can i Show u Some Pic of it? PLEASE
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Email me
@JAC13
@JAC13 4 года назад
mine is a newer 2011 TU250x, fuel injected so no carb issues. It is an awesome little bike.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
It sure is a nice bike...fingres crossed I can get it up and running!
@TheDroopYJ
@TheDroopYJ 4 года назад
Blocked pilot jet. Guaranteed. I just did a GL1100 bigger motor, same symptoms. Found all 4 pilots plugged. Yes, check valves too. That bike had sat for 20 years before I got it and it's running very well now. You can get this one running well again.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I hope so! It's not the pilot jet...rip them all apart and they are squiky clean now. Must be something else...I'm on it tomorrow maybe.
@andyc750
@andyc750 4 года назад
Hiya Mackie, do like that you don't choose expensive bikes for your projects, real bikes that interest real people, as for your carb I would suggest it is the pilot jet circuit, think you may well find it is dirt in the pilot jet or more likely the emulsion tube above it, a tiny bit of crap will have that effect and several Suzuki models suffer that problem, worth blowing all the jets and airways a blow through with an airline, also brake or carb cleaner squirted everywhere before blowing through helps but getting the pilot jet and emulsion tube out and clean is the best thing to check
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
well, I'm a rear person, can't afford harleys and all that to rip apart, I wish I could, but look at this little guy - such a cool bike! Not a pilot jet buddy, checked them all and they are clean as you like it!
@jonboy-kb1jj
@jonboy-kb1jj 4 года назад
As mentioned in the other comments, air leak, blocked jet etc, also worth checking timing & valve clearances as well matey. Good luck
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Yes, that's the last thing to do...I'll start with the easier bits ;)
@heywhotsgoinon8286
@heywhotsgoinon8286 4 года назад
Ive had ZZR 11's and CBR 1000's but ringing the neck out of a small bike is a hell of a lot of fun. Looks a nice little bike Mackie. Stay cool.👍
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Couldn't agree more! I love them little thumpres. It's a 250cc single, that will have some nice toqrue for sure...that when it's up and running.
@shyamrankothgevlogs
@shyamrankothgevlogs 4 года назад
In Sri Lanka, we have a community of Volty riders. It's one of the dream bikes of any rider. So glad that I'm a proud owner of one! ❤️
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Great 👍Good to hear, these are very popular then?
@shyamrankothgevlogs
@shyamrankothgevlogs 4 года назад
@@MackieBass Yes! Very popular!
@keithf8890
@keithf8890 4 года назад
Hiya.I would be checking the carb again.Rip it to bits and make sure all jets are clear.Blow through them with your compressor.It would be worth checking for an air leak aswell.Perhaps squirt some wd on the inlet manifold,see if the revs rise.All the best.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Already ripped it apart...3 times ;) Air screw seems to be the issue, but can't teste it just yet... maybe over the weekend
@rosemarylindop335
@rosemarylindop335 4 года назад
Looking forward to how your project turns out. I personally prefer the TU back to factory. Plus that seat colour is hidious! Great bike. I have one 😂
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Back to original I think...with a very slight twist... That's if I ever get it running?
@yamyin7
@yamyin7 4 года назад
Hallo from hong kong volty owner, looking forward on your project💪🏻
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Hello there and welcome onboard! Glad to have viewers from all over the world! How's your bike treating you?
@HepcatHarley
@HepcatHarley 4 года назад
Kool Li'l bike, I'd start with a rebuild kit, especially that diaphragm....and more beer! :)
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Good shout man, The carb looks like somebody messed about with it, so best to start fresh!
@Hui9697
@Hui9697 4 года назад
Hi Mackie, Put all the jets in a jar of thinners and then put it in the sonic washer full of water. Your pilot jet is choked for sure and most other fluids in the washer don't work well for this problem, petrol works too but not as good as thinners, Soap only cleans oily dirt on the outside. If you can get the carb body in paint thinners do it as well as the galleries can be blocked too.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I soaked them i carb cleaner and blown air through - clean as you like it..yet the problem still there. hmmmm... ;\
@Hui9697
@Hui9697 4 года назад
@@MackieBass Absolutely no idea why it's called Carb Cleaner, it does everything but, (mirrors etc.) To get the varnish out of the unseen galleries you need to try thinners, it's not like you won't have any. The emulsion tube that the main needle goes through also has tiny holes too. Strip the car to the bare bones. Use hot water in the sonic bath and let it go. If the jar floats and wants to tip over either put more components in the jar or put more thinners in it. Try it, what have you got to lose.
@martinkupka3575
@martinkupka3575 4 года назад
BTW, about intake air filter systems: In general you are absolutely right with what you said about air box. But, different from many comments of private persons in internet, intake air filters and air boxes are NOT always designed to make the motor run perfect or even near to that. Reason for that often is space conditions due to design of bike. But, surprise, even more frequently it´s about costs. With bikes we have a better chance to get a good system, same as with exhausts. With cars, situation is much worse. Guess why I know.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Very good point man, what I'm trying to do is go back to original assembly, so it's like the manufacturer inteded...and from that point we can play!
@markwarren1077
@markwarren1077 4 года назад
Double check the rubber between the carb and motor bro. Could have a little air leak. Cool little bike mate, you'll crack it 🤘
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Rubber looks and feels really solid, so don't think that is the case. Indeed a cool bike...I hope I'll get it fixed.
@joellekarma
@joellekarma 4 года назад
The diaphragm might have a whole in it. If it does it won'r raise the jet needle so it can get more fuel. Good luck on the build. you need to strip it down put a solo seat on it and make a mini bobber out of it.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Diaphragm is all good. I think this one will be back to original condition, it's such a cool design. Suzuki nailed this one!
@davemurphy2020
@davemurphy2020 4 года назад
Nice bike reminds me of GT250 used to own. Good luck with solving the puzzle. Seems like you are treading in someone else's footsteps. My guess would be a faulty boot or diaphragm, Possibly wrong float height. Gripped!
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
We shall see, and yes..someone already "tried" to fix it...hence it's not working as intended :)
@assessor1276
@assessor1276 4 года назад
Hi Mackie: if I may, the first thing to do is to return all of the settings to the factory specs (you do have a manual right)? Then inspect the jets very carefully - it sounds like something is still blocked (perhaps the emulsion tube - but when cleaning it do not use wire as that can enlarge the tiny holes. The other thing to check is the carb mounting boot (the flexible thing that screws to the cylinder head) if there is a leak in that boot-head joint or with the fit of the carb in the boot - you won’t get it to run correctly. There is lots of info online on rebuilding Amika I carbs - do some research and you’ll find it.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I checked it all Peter, part 2 cominug up as we speak, more info there. Still no joy..
@martinkupka3575
@martinkupka3575 4 года назад
Already now (only 11 comments yet) others already pointed out about pilot jet and poissible air leaks. Let me add that also passages of pilot jet which are casted in the carb housing can be blocked. Especially these are sometimes hard to clean.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Well, I took them all out and soak and cleaned them all separately...that's not it.
@REKLESSWOLVES1
@REKLESSWOLVES1 4 года назад
Hi Mackie, have you checked the float bowl at all ? The float bowl needle, needle adjuster and float bowl height ? failing that it seems to only happen when the throttle plate / butterfly valve opens and closes, could that be loose at all, the 2 screws holding it in place maybe they came loose or the plates not sitting correctly in the valve chamber or the plate could just be worn out, just a few ideas, good luck
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
In second part I've got new carb...issue is still the same.
@alstone5257
@alstone5257 4 года назад
when you cleaned the carb parts, I am sure you removed the main jet , this is also were the slide needle goes up and down into. ok so when you remove the main jet from fuel bowl area, there is a washer use a pick to remove the washer and this will expose a long tube jet that the needle from the slide pin goes in and out of this must be cleaned as well, it well drop out when the washer that sits between this tube and the main jet. is removed. it has about 8 to maybe 16 little holes running along the sides that must be clean and open, use a safety pin, as they are very small. ok the only reason I am posting all of this is because every time some one comes to me for help its like no one ever cleans this part. If you already know this a apologize, for my assumption. :)
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
No apologies needed my good man. I really appreciate your input. And yes, I did take them apart and gave them good clean to a point I could see throuh all the holes. The only thing I didn't take apart was the air screw, as it was jammed after 5 turns...which I assumed was a factory stop. But no..I'm on it over the weekend, so will double check that part! Thanks again and speak soon!
@alstone5257
@alstone5257 4 года назад
@@MackieBass I enjoy your videos I am much like you when I am working on my 1981 Suzuki GS 550 Café Racer project, doing it because it is fun.
@LS-uv9gg
@LS-uv9gg 4 года назад
Is the float level/movement looking ok? Is the rubber line going from the carb to the tank (now the "Mackie tank" lol) positively not gunked up/kinked with an internal unseen restriction of fuel actually getting into the carb? How is the spark plug colour and condition- showing lean? I love these resurrection videos. I feel mildly guilty, because often they can lead to a bit of frustration trying to suss out the problem, but the final satisfaction surely makes it worthwhile, eh? I just love them nonetheless, a big thank you for doing these :D
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Hey man. The floats seems to be working well. The rubber hose is a brand new one, so I know it is working well. Spark plug is slightly on lean side I'd say. Resorruecion is great, as long we can actually resurrect the bike within reasonable budget :)
@thediybeard2260
@thediybeard2260 4 года назад
How many bloody bikes you got lol. Another great video
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Too many some say...not enough is my thinking :)
@timmason7430
@timmason7430 4 года назад
Enough is Never enough.
@chrisandersen3213
@chrisandersen3213 4 года назад
I had a '98 model...... Wish I still had it... Good little commuter bikes..
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
It is a 98...or 99? 98 I think. cool little bike
@chrisandersen3213
@chrisandersen3213 4 года назад
@@MackieBass Up until fairly recently, the bike was my only transport (I'm almost 50). Rode the TU for almost 3 years. They are really good on fuel, pretty easy to maintain, and parts are still available for them. Almost the complete opposite of my 1800 lol
@The9meister
@The9meister 4 года назад
The three basics, air, fuel and spark, check all, also, I think the pilot jet is blocked.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Check it all and checked it twice..
@simon2knine
@simon2knine 4 года назад
Check the condition of the diaphragm...new jets might help...What was the colour and condition of the old plugs..
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Everything seems really good condition in all honesty. I think the air screw has something to do with it, as I haven't taken it out yet - that's the only thing...
@airbrushingbynick6071
@airbrushingbynick6071 4 года назад
Any luck yet? Personally, looking at that Diaphragm for starters, it shouldn’t be all wrinkly. They don’t suck even pressure to raise the needles. I would get a new one anyway if you could.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Had no time looking into it. Ovr the weekend maybe?
@kennymanchester
@kennymanchester 3 года назад
Oh man, I should have looked at this video of the Suzuki first! Dude! It’s the Fuel System! The 250 is starving for fuel in the transition from cold start (choke) to idle circuit. May have issue with other carb circuits too. The carb has issues. Ultrasonic cleaner not enough. The when system is starved for fuel like that, I like to eliminate leak issues. Vacuum will lean it when various carb parts warp due to overheat, or cold water/rain while engine was hot, etc. Anyway, to test for issues, start the bike and get it idling with full choke if necessary. Then use carb spray (good) or Starting fluid spray (better) and make really short sprays all around the carb and note changes in idle speed to find leaks. Sometimes you can fix the leaks with new gaskets, but sometimes you cannot. Excessive play in linkage pivots etc., just can’t be easily fixed. I am dead certain this is carb fault. Other stuff may need to be optimized, but this is a fuel delivery issue. 100% my friend. Shit, I wish I had seen this before you went down all those other rabbit trails. Shit. It’s the carb. Focus on the carb.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 3 года назад
Kenny, it's not the fuel system. It is not fuel starvation 100% sure of it. It is something to do with advance...or rather lack of it. Carb it's spotless...both of them are. It's electrical. I'm on it bro!
@johnmeade6889
@johnmeade6889 4 года назад
Glad that you have another project on the go, back to standard or are you going to pimp it.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
first I want to get it up and running. I wanted to pimp it, but it's such a cute littel bike it would be a shame I think!
@johnmeade6889
@johnmeade6889 4 года назад
MackieBass yeah I agree, never heard of that model, maybe it just passed me by, or was an import. Keep well.🍺
@shyamrankothgevlogs
@shyamrankothgevlogs 4 года назад
The pilot jet is blocked. Try cleaning it with some Carb cleaner solution.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Already tried...not the case. Must be something else.
@studio-scrap
@studio-scrap 4 года назад
愛車がVOLTY(TU 250)なので、こういう動画はなんかうれしい♪
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Welcome on board!
@nightster6378
@nightster6378 4 года назад
Hi Mackie I would check 4 things, the jets are clear i.e. you can see through them both slow running and main jet, the diaphragm has no holes in it, i.e.pin holes or little cuts especially where it joins the metal parts (a little stretch will highlight these), float height (see the manual) and air adjusting screw is turned out usually about 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 turns, it's not the first time I have come across these turned in tight. Make sure all orifices are clear throughout the carb. I would put the slide needle back where it was, its possible but unlikely someone has moved it from its original factory set position. This bike is almost certain to have electronic ignition i.e. no points or advance retard unit so not included in the 4 if it does then its 5 things to check. It should make a really nice project, i.e. flat tracker, you did the cafe racer and you did a fine job though I guess you have your own idea's. www.bikebound.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Suzuki-TU250-Grasstracker-6.jpg www.bikebound.com/2017/10/01/suzuki-grasstracker-custom/ though with a flat tracker seat or similar. renax-motorbike.blogspot.com/search/label/Dominator%20NX650%20kit.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Thanks man, as you will see in part 2 for this I 've checked it all already...running out of ideas here...
@OldManTony
@OldManTony 4 года назад
I’ve never heard of one. There is a lot of the bike that reminds me of my Suzuki GT250.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I guess it's a similar structure. Very rare in the UK. Seems the american market had more of these.
@nightster6378
@nightster6378 4 года назад
I am genuinely not being rude, but the only thing this bike has in common with a GT250 is its a motorcycle and called a Suzuki. The GT250 is a 2 stroke, 2 cylinders, it looks and sounds nothing like this bike. MackieBass was very diplomatic in his reply saying it had a similar structure i.e. it has a frame, 2 wheels and an engine.
@OldManTony
@OldManTony 4 года назад
Nightster For saying you’re not being rude, you’re making a good job of it. I wasn’t talking about the engine, I was talking about the, frame, the ace bars, the wheels the forks, and general style. It REMINDS me of my GT 250, I didn’t say it had anything in common!
@nightster6378
@nightster6378 4 года назад
@@OldManTony I bought a new GT250A in 1976 and still own one today I reckon I know the bike reasonably well, I will say it again I wasn't being rude honest and to the point, I didn't realise you would be so delicate but the last part of your last sentence said it all.
@ttxela
@ttxela 4 года назад
Maybe an air leak somewhere? Years ago when I had twin carb cars I always found colourtune plugs very helpful for this sort of thing.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I spray easy start all around the carb - doesn't seem like an air leak.
@ttxela
@ttxela 4 года назад
@@MackieBass hmmm, tricky then, something is leaning it out, if not an air problem and you're confident no blocked jets then maybe fuel line?
@jonnybonnie9303
@jonnybonnie9303 4 года назад
Hey Mack. I see your problem mate. You need to drink more beer, not use it as fuel !!! Seriously though, all everyone says and check that vacuum rubber, looks a bit puckered. Also check the slide is lifting with vacuum. Blow some air through and the slide should lift. Good luck!
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Someone said more beer? ok..you convinced me!
@jonnybonnie9303
@jonnybonnie9303 4 года назад
@@MackieBass well that was easy!😂
@airbrushingbynick6071
@airbrushingbynick6071 4 года назад
Those valves are a bit ticky by the way.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
You think? Maybe it was just old or not enough oil?
@airbrushingbynick6071
@airbrushingbynick6071 4 года назад
@@MackieBass .Maybe but you gotto give a run for a while.
@tonybell3404
@tonybell3404 4 года назад
Hi Mackie get a carb rebuild kit Andy at NRP in Manchester is the Dogs Danglies when it comes to Carburettors.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
I got a second hand carb now that is good working condition...still no joy. Part 2 coming up in few minutes!
@WEGGYZZR
@WEGGYZZR 4 года назад
I like that Mackie boy...
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Me too, shame she's not running!
@brwhyon
@brwhyon 4 года назад
"Don't try this at home", thanks for the laugh, I do that shit all the time, safety third ! Hey message me on insta @bryontapp would like to send you some things to look over for a build.
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
Just did buddy :)
@airbrushingbynick6071
@airbrushingbynick6071 4 года назад
I hope not. 😂 😂 😂 😂
@MackieBass
@MackieBass 4 года назад
hope again ;) at least its not a virago
@Beglecov
@Beglecov 10 дней назад
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