During my second year of my forensic science degree my lecturer was showing real crime scenes of victims for case studies that the police and families of said victims had let universities use for studying, real gruesome stuff but it's expected of a forensic course. Anyway my lecturer said if you need a trigger warning already knowing full well what the course involves then you don't belong in the course because if you can't deal with just an image how are you going to deal with a real life case.
not really a fitting analogy because the students chose what they study and that it involves cruelty. however, you dont choose to be confronted with violence in everyday situations.
I'm a Thai guy who went to college in America 1992-1996 and lived there til '99. I loved every moment of it. When I hear shit like this it makes me really sad at the state of my adoptive home.
I'm part American and feel the same. When I say miss the US I mean I miss the US I lived in, before all this madness started. I'd probably get arrested now for calling a woman "she".
America is still the best country in the world to live in. Other places are not having conversations about how there is social engineering taking place via universities and media.
As a young boy, I was terrified of water and had a few near drowning incidents. Swimming parties triggered me. I barely learned to doggy paddle at 11yrs old. As an adult I got into triathlon to face my fears. There where many mid-ocean panic attacks…but now 20 yrs, 50+ races and 3 Ironman’s later, I can say with full confidence, yes exposure therapy can be an amazing tool. Wait for it…. Cannon-BALL!!! 🏊♀️
Im going to point something out for all these trigger warning morons to justify this kind of ignorants means the world is a safe enough place for sheeple like you to live without being subjugated under someone elses will like for your organs or for sex ie pbs children married aborad the only people id accept a trigger warning from is entertainment industries warning on strobes where people can actually find a nice place to get out to and have a family get together vs even accepting one of these karens on the property because you dont want to deal with it if you want to hide yourself from triggers only let other people dictate what you watch find a few trusted sources influincers duh
Most of the trigger warnings he listed off are in place for people with disabilities and conditions.. Like autism /epilepsy /chronic lung disease... You think there's exercises to overcome these things doc?
@@seanjones180 do you understand the idea of "irony"? he's not talking about people with disabilities, he's talking about full grown people, both physically and (alegedlly) mentally, that are behaving like people with disabilities, simply because they don't want to know about "bad stuff". life rarely gives you trigger warnings, and best way to deal with "bad stuff" is to face it, or at least learn to deal with it. these snowflakes don't want to do either
@@ionutgeanta8741 he is literally criticising warnings before stage shows.. I don't think you understand the word irony...simulated gun shots, strobe lighting and haze.. All 3 of these things can be serious for people with health conditions.. You saying we shouldn't warn people or are YOU just being ironic too?
Yes, EXACTLY! I'm a trauma survivor and dealing with it is the answer. I've never felt triggered by any piece of media or conversation in my life (some songs make me emotional if life has been rough because abuse feeds the trauma of abuse but I don't avoid them, I feel what I need to feel and sort through things. I weep and cry and hurt and recover and move forward).
I personally believe that no one gets through life without a major trauma...sooner or later...unfortunately, some of the most horrific traumas are catapulted on the very young....we still have to learn to ...move on...or die...just as you have, I choose to...move on!
Exactly..as a child sexual abuse survivor…turning away isn’t the answer..I use the music I produce and sing as an outlet..and I joke about my abuse if anything..living life blindfolded and looking at yourself as just a victim who can’t change without dealing with it is nonsense..I laugh at my smart tv sometimes even warning me about audio levels being to high asking me ‘’are you sure you want to listen at a higher volume which can be harmful,’’,,here I have to press yes/ok/leave me the f#%k alone…ha..actually the hurt I went through helped me grow and play better music…💪😂☝️🤗
Balls to the wall is a term that came from old steam engines. There were metal balls that moved with engine speed. When the engine was at maximum speed, the metal balls would be all the way out. Balls out is also a term from the same thing. People just turned it into something else. So going balls out, or balls to the wall just means going full speed. That's it
Thank you Bill, please keep doing your thing - being a witty, funny, ironic, sometimes sarcastic beacon of reason in a world that goes crazier every day.
It's easy to say the obvious things you've been paid to avoid or twist up when the evidence is being exposed all around you. All of that content has imploded on them and they are grasping at straws to breathe underwater so to speak. He was pretty good on his way up the ladder of his success. Then he became a major shill. Now he is doing what he got famous for. It can only last as long as his masters allow it. I'm glad he is B slapping them for a brief moment. I'll never have respect or trust in what he says unless he leaves them behind and exposes them. Oh wait he can't because of that non disclosure he signed. They own him. Go out on your own Bill you're rich enough you don't need your masters anymore.
Wow are you missing out on so many great people by keeping it to a guy who at his age is just now starting to Wake Up! The guy sitting next to him during this monologue, Russell Brand, is one you should start with. He's brilliant, fair, and liberal in the classic sense.
I am a survivor of several traumas over the course of my life. Not once when growing up were there every trigger warnings. I just went on with my life. I don’t think I would want to be warned, because as is indicated, it sets my tensions up in anticipation. It is far less traumatic if I don’t know what’s coming. That’s just my experience.
My post was featured on this, the post is about a pornographic website that has women being disemboweled and beheaded and raped on it. If you don't think that is deserving of a warning, you may need therapy.
For real, i never could understand this stuff. Several years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD when I was hospitalized. I started working through some early childhood stuff (e.g. being tied up and gagged). Started having intense panic attacks that led to a heart arrhythmia. Anyways, I regularly casually expose myself to anything that *could* be a trigger. It is SO true that “trigger warnings” are completely unhelpful for trauma. It only serves to make you identify even more with it and not prevent getting mentally stronger. Anyway, I am proud of where I’ve gotten and I also laugh at this because I understand how ridiculous it is. Trauma is real and requires particular type of help, but trigger warnings and bans of words, people, etc are not it.
Up to 2015: You have a problem? Deal with it or go to therapy. 2015-2023: Tell tiktok, the world, make everyone aware of your trauma and socially censor people who don't listen to your complaints.
This has been a problem a LOT longer then 8 years, it was happening in the late 90's in corporate America and universities. It's just gotten worse to the point of absurdity the past several years.
@@maidofthemisty i believe something hidden deep beneath the surface was finally exposed because of a certain individual coming onto the political scene. What Dave and Steve said (above ☝️) is true because i was getting a big dose of what Dave is talking about myself in college starting way back in 2007. I transferred from my dream college/grandfather’s alma mater after getting fed up with constant/relentless attempts at political indoctrination by a majority of my professors for 2.5 years, especially the PhDs. And I noticed social media has definitely made the whole issue exponentially/apparently worse, like Steve said. It’s been lurking around for a really long time, it’s just now seeing the light of day.
The thing that has always got me is - speaking as someone with mental health issues that forced him out of university - that if you need a trigger warning at somewhere like a university, then you are not capable of studying there at that point in your life. Get some help. From actual professionals. The best case scenario for a trigger warning is like it is a tiny plaster stuck on to a wound ten times its size. It's not going to help you, and it is almost certain to do you grievous harm if you think it will.
@@sshms67 True. But isn't that the problem? The institutions that are supposed to be helping as are making decisions with the bottom line in mind, pretending they actually care about making people better.
About five years ago I was told by a young college girl that it was everybody's responsibility to know what other people's trigger words are and to avoid using them in conversation. As a forty five year old adult I told her just let me find out what someone's trigger word is and it would become my new favorite word.
I'd also imagine that just saying "trigger warning" trips all people who've been through ANY trauma as opposed to just those with the specific trauma they're worried about triggering...
I was unusually fearful of speaking. Perhaps it was an extension of delayed verbalization as a child. Took speech early in high school. Got through it somehow . Sweaty palms after a night of no sleep. Took it again before graduating. Went on to college and declared a major in Speech Communication. Performed on stage numerous times. Got a full ride and teaching assistantship while earning my masters in rhetoric and dramatic arts. I’m proud of that. *Never overcame my fear of snakes.
Strobe light warnings are for people with epilepsy and haze warnings are for people with asthma -- you know, real medical conditions. Another way of looking at these warnings is that they are a way to keep vulnerable people safe from harm without limiting or restricting artistic expression or content. It's actually a compromise which accommodates everyone while letting individual free-will be the deciding factor.
Yes and these warnings for theater have been around for decades. I like to know if there is going to be gun shots in a play because it does help prepare for the loud noise.
Strobe warnings do not work. They are a nonsense idea that gets pushed by snowflake culture. It is like warning if nuts are in a processed food which is senseless because it cannot be guaranteed. A person that is allergic to nuts needs to have their own plan in place to deal with it and if their reaction is of a serious nature they can really only eat foods that they have prepared them self that they 100% know is safe.
As soon as people know what triggers you, that's the thing they'll gravitate towards. You want to keep them in the dark about what hurts you so they keep guessing and get it wrong every time except for maybe once. And they'll never know.
I imagine Bill's guest John Heilemann felt uncomfortable during this bit, seeing how his bosses at MSNBC are the worst at pointing out things you should be scared of. They showed him once during the skit looking unamused, whereas they showed Russell Brand several times smiling.
Great material Bill! Things are getting increasingly bizarre in this digital-virtual age with people so highly over-socialized-civilized-domesticated by our ever greater dependency on technology, and even the living of our lives within technology space. How can it really get any better as long as we maintain our addiction to tech and the pursuit of tech progress? We are just going to get weaker and more idiotic the longer we stay on this path. "Progress" will ultimately make us all a bunch of pathetic blithering idiots incapable of real social interaction.
Trigger warnings are like the Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics stickers on CD covers in the 90s. They just let you know in advance if the content has anything cool or worth your time and attention.
In fairness to the Guthrie in Minneapolis, the warning about simulated gunshots, haze, and strobes wasn't about trigger warnings. It was notifying people that there wasn't an active shooting or someone throwing smoke grenades or flash bangs during the show. Bill Maher needs to do a little more research regarding these things.
Bill went off the rails into idgaf territory the better part of the decade ago, guys all ego, no filter, and whatever "research" is done is to serve his own bits and general worldview.
@@bassandtrebleclef I won't go home. I know what it's like to be shot at. The Guthrie giving a warning about simulated gunfire as a warning to those who experienced the real thing is a nice courtesy, not something to make light of.
In Art school the professor issued trigger warnings before showing the Statue of David. It was at that moment I realized my Fine art degree was a useless waste of time.
He mentioned a trigger warning that mentioned strobe lights. For Epileptics that are photosensitive this makes sense. Strobe lights trigger seizures and it's absolutely necessary to have a warning so that you can avoid flashing lights.
OK, wait.... serious question... I get the strobe warning... anyone who disagrees with that is a f*cking moron. But why "haze"? What's the medical condition associated with that? And yes, I am indeed too lazy to look it up.
The irony is that one of the words Bill mentioned IS a bit of a trigger for me, but that just informs my "so what?" about it. My issues are my issues to overcome, and it's so absurd to me that I could begin to expect the whole world to stop what it's doing and alter itself for me. And even as someone with a bit of an ego, I can't imagine the self-centeredness required to think that makes sense.
Trigger for what? Words are just that- words. I don’t understand how a word can elicit such an emotional response to the point of having to call it “a bit of a trigger for me”. We used to refer to these type of words as “I don’t care for that word” shortly followed by the one that used it as “Oh, I’m sorry OR I don’t give a damn, get over yourself!” Yes, you used “so what” but the fact that you felt the need to say a word John used is a “bit of a trigger for you” is baffling! I did have to laugh at Roman’s response though.
@@brandonscottsanchez My post was featured on this, the post is about a pornographic website that has women being disemboweled and beheaded and raped on it. He's more upset with the word trigger warning than women being murdered and sexually exploited.
@@brandonscottsanchez You don't know this person's history and circumstances. You seem to be quite triggered by his words, such an elaborate response. Oh the irony!
2:15 "I guess they don't teach irony in college anymore." Actually, irony, like sarcasm, is an genetic talent. It cannot be taught to people who were not born with the gene to recognize it in the first place.
If we keep this up it’s going to be hard for future generations to become Doctors, Veterinarians, Lawyers, Police officers, criminologists, teachers,soldiers, News Readers, actors……
It wont continue, future generations will get so sick of it that they will go the other way and everything will be purposey built to offend and traumatize. I cant wait.
@@ex7229 They still think this is organic and not engineered. It's so cute tbh. This is what happens when you call everyone conspiracy theorist except for millionaires on tv.
Trigger warnings are not, as they pretend to be, a way to caution audience members. They are a way for the entities issuing the warnings to congratulate themselves for their sensitivity and to look "caring." It's so much easier to do that than to care.
A trigger warning is a lot like a parent trying to soothe their child at the doctor's office before getting a shot. You might think it's a good idea to tell your child "It's OK, nothing to be afraid of, it's not going to hurt", but in reality what that tends to do is make the child suspect that there IS something to be afraid of, and there IS something that's going to hurt. It's basically priming the recipient of the message to be hyper sensitized to the thing they're being warned about.
no that is not true. trigger warnings also refer to stuff like strobing effects which can make a person with epilepsy have a seizure. that has nothing to do with being „afraid“. also having ptsd flasbacks or dissociation has to do with being traumatized. and yes people need to work on their trauma, but that is a long process and it is ill advised to do it without professional help through watching flashback-inducing media.
@@sophieh.2986 Blah blah blah.....as a person with epilepsy......I don't require a warning, I'll just cover my eyes. Done. Problem solved. All this 'trigger warning' bulls+-$ is making us all weak, stupid and afraid of everything/ everyone FFS. Toughen up already would ya! The REAL World....doesn't come with trigger warnings.
thats literally the opposite of a trigger warning, and in fact is potential proof that if the parent told them what to expect (ya know, like a warning about some potential trigger) maybe the child would be better prepared and less scared... hmmmm you do thinking so gud
@@samtank7599 *TRIGGER WARNING: UNFRIENDLY REPLY* You clearly have zero experience with children, and zero experience of psychology in general. Please attempt to engage your brain before dumping it's contents cold onto the page.
It's like the parental advisory stickers they put on music. Not only does it not work it becomes a sort of badge of honor that people look for just because it's "forbidden".
@@bryanmachin3738 I know it’s hilarious. Every time they do this or a state like Florida Banned books The sales of the book went up immediately to unprecedented levels. Great comedy.
Here's how it normally goes for me. Me-But it only means.... Response... maybe, but now it could mean... Me- only in your world. Response... but you have to respect my world. Me- (a chuckling)... No I don't.
I went through a fairly traumatic event as a child. Now, 40 years later I had to go through more than a year of therapy just to come to terms with it, because I had spent my entire life REFUSING to be seen as a victim. I never really accepted that the incident was what it was because I didn’t want te be defined by it. In the end I compromised with the term “survivor”… which I’m still not entirely comfortable with. So this whole trend of WANTING to be identified as a victim… of actually inventing “trauma” so you get to be a victim… I do NOT understand that.
We have known this for decades, and it always amazed me that Universities let students (the people they are "educating") dictate these things. There is no such things as aversion therapy.
this is because universities are now for profit businesses, they are not students, they are customers. And, as we've all been taught, the customer is always right.
@@rustyoak8860 100% People need to let go of the idea they had 30 years ago about Universities as bastions of public education. They are multi-billion multi-nation for-profit companies selling product.
I totally agree with trigger warnings being the same as spoilers. I was watching an Amazon show which I loved and before one of the episodes it stated that the following episode contains depictions of teen suicide, that just gave away the whole episode for me, now I know that one of the 3 teen characters is going to commit suicide. I would rather just find that out naturally by watching the episode.
Good for you; others may not agree. What is worth more: your enjoyment of a television show or the trauma someone else who has experienced serious shit? It's got to be awesome when you biggest concern is having a television show spoiled.
@@01MTodd I have experienced serious shit like friends committing suicide, and coming close to doing it myself. Yes it's uncomfortable to watch but I'm a grown up who knows how to handle my emotions, it's just a tv show, I know it's fake.
@@01MTodd Those people should not be watching tv shows if they cannot face the topic being out there in the public. Your snowflake attitude is not facing up to the reality of life. The Russian invasion and the pandemic have brought many out of the weird cultural slumber of the last 25 years. If people cannot handle a TV show then they should not be watching it.
@@aftd100 I have experienced exactly the same thing myself. And I have no problem watching shows containing such content. I'm not bothered in the least by it, and I don't need content warnings. My point is that some people do need them, and dismissing them as snowflakes shows a complete lack of empathy for people with mental health issues.
The strobe and haze warnings are known to trigger (pun intended) epileptic seizures and asthma respectively. Therefore theatres are required to give a heads-up to their audiences.
The warnings for gunshots make sense. When I was a kid, I took my high school GF to a horror themed amusement park. In one of the house of horrors, a combat veteran with pretty severe PTSD had an attack two groups behind us and nearly killed a guy before somebody to knock him out after one of the sound clips they played over the loud speakers included very realistic gunshots. Not knowing about that kinda shit ahead of time can be REALLY bad for combat vets.
If you think about it, It doesn't. If it's that severe, he should get help to manage his PTSD, not expect to have trigger warnings in every single place.
trigger warnings actually help people prepare for and handle the simulated reality present by movie/tv/books. If it has no impact on you, why complain about others who might have ptsd on the subject
"Balls to the walls" relates to a mechanical governor that controls the speed of a machine using weighted spheres (balls) that move outward (towards the walls) as the machine spins faster.
Wrong. It comes from aviation where in piston powered fighter aircraft the throttle, RPM control and fuel mixture levers were topped with spherical handles. Moving these levers full forward to the firewall (which separated the cockpit from the engine) would provide full power from the engine. Thus "balls to the (fire)wall" meant giving maximum power to the aircraft.
@@TheRealMrMoonlight Not sure only one meaning has to be *THE* meaning, but OK. The point is it's just idiotic for those nut-jobs to be upset about what it _doesn't_ mean. Actually even if it WAS, inexplicably, about testicles on a vertical surface it would be a completely moronic thing to waste one's time being upset about or "triggered" by.
Yes, responding to the trauma of witnessing the brutal murder of your parents with a never-ending campaign to stop crime is the act of a well balanced mind.
@@christianboehlefeld5168 I think Bill's point related more to how Bruce Wayne embraced his fear and thus transformed himself and became stronger. So in other words, if something some one says causes anxiety in you, maybe there is a lesson there that you are missing if you simply run away or hide your head in the sand.
So glad I'm not the only one who is pissed off about how weak the world seems to be becoming. I thought I was just being really heartless in this age of 'gentle parenting' (never say no), almost everything is labelled as damaging our kids, everyone managing to slip that they are neurodivergent into the conversation, and wearing their traumas like medals for surviving this thing called life. It's all messed up, stuff went wrong for some, VERY wrong for many. Seems so odd to celebrate that you can't get over anything.
Spot on. It reminds me of Carlin's rant about "soft language" Bill's reference to "someone who's lived on a rig for the past ten years" is literally me -- I've lived abroad for 12 years. Every so often I'll come across references like "menstruating people" & "primary bedroom" & it'll take a few moments to process. I had no idea that "master bedroom" was banished from the lexicon.😁
I think that trigger warnings can be used appropriately for very explicit content. It really sucks when people take a good idea, blow it out of proportion to ridiculous standards, that it leads people to want to get rid of it all together, rightfully so in many cases.🤦🏼♀️
I appreciate you talking about this because I’m having current issues about an Ex of mine that didn’t end on good terms and first I just wanted to hide in fear and just cower in that fear . But now I’m just going to go ahead and give a courteous hello . And move on with my day. It hurts but I have no Ill will towards her.
I just realized I've been living on an oil rig for the last ten years! No wait, I know these "trigger warnings"--It's just that I've always IGNORED THEM. What do you wanna bet that's what MOST people do with them?
My issue is they cause harm to the people they supposedly help, not simply that they exist. Bill is just being a snowflake complaining about words on a screen.
Good point. Triggered people should just ignore the triggers altogether. Let's face it, they aren't people with actual trauma/PTSD, just weak loser teenagers looking for attention.
Lol; if you work on an oil rig you worry about real things like blowouts, fires, and the countless daily ways you can get injured or killed on the platform.
Exposure to harmful words and images builds resistance, there is no evidence that trigger warnings/sanitized media help people become resiliant. The same people who support trigger warnings would have been Fox News neocons in the 80s/90s trying to censor metal music. Think about it, progressives have already tried to have a movement pushing the idea that video games cause violence and misogyny, they really are just religious zealots who base their actions on faith and abstract ideals over logic or practical solutions.
Watching a PBS drama the other day, the trigger warning came up. WE wondered why we needed to be "prepared" to watch a crime drama show....It wasn't anything aimed at kids - and kids see violence and all those "bad" things in cartoons and shows they're allowed to see all the time.
Thank you Bill for pointing out the insanity of the wokeism in this society. You do it so well!!!. I wish there were more people like you in the entertainment industry.
I endorse this message. I believe the majority of sane people should stop bending to these overly sensitive people and just get on with life. We have far more things to work towards and worry about in this world.
Well done, sir. God bless you. Well done. I remember reading Frank Miller's Dark Night Returns. I was only 16 then. Dark Night Returns seemed a perfect blend of when a Hard-Boiled Reality collides with a Hopeful Reality. I think so long as people 'don't get so deluded' they LITTERALLY go jumping off buildings thinking they can fly, it's very good to allow mirthful hope. This part can be very nuanced and I am not sure if there are enough labels to prevent bad parenting. But when teachers are allowed to be the 'bad parents' it seems to just run contrary to all mirthful hope. All couples have the freedom to bear children. But only the most qualified personnel that operate with integrity for all people should be allowed to teach in the teaching industry. Hope is good thing so long as EVERYONE is permitted to be fruitful and multiply. 💝
Some people can get seizures or other severe physical reactions to strobe lights; nothing wrong with giving theatergoers the knowledge to decide if they should see a show
In today's world far too, many people want to play a victim and turn everything around too themself. It is like being in the middle of a pity party. I understand that we live in a world full of a lot of sad and lonely people. But they really need to find better ways to get attention. Try having some positive energy in one's life and you might just find more people wanting to be around you. And just as important avoid negative people at all costs. I think that is why we have so many lonely people today seems that got that part figured out. People can change but it starts with the person looking back at you in the mirror. You fix you then you might have something to offer of value to another someday.
My post was featured on this, the post is about a pornographic website that has women being disemboweled and beheaded and raped on it. If you don't think that is deserving of a warning, you may need therapy.
Trigger warnings were never really about "protecting" a viewer from seeing a disturbing video or image, they were about just protecting the media from being sued for displaying some content that the viewer, unexpectantly, saw. So, yes, "trigger warnings" DID work. They prevented media outlets from being sued!
I love this guy--society has become much to sensitive to every supposed insult,trauma etc, etc, etc - grow up people ! Life can be harsh & challenging- deal with it- it builds character & strength!
Age appropriate viewing is logical. Trigger warnings are not. Who can know exactly what people will like or not like. A joke in a tv show about Trump, Biden, Haris or Will Smith could offend anybody including Will Smith.
