New Serbian M-84AS1. The best T-72 modernization yet. 

N word

let's go strv 122

What about a video on t72 scarab?

But I already have it

Hey, Red. What makes the base armor of a T-90A?

Designer : How do you want to modernize a T-72? That one serb : i agree

we are interesting people guys :D l am from Serbia btw

@@apple222sickly that's a. M 84. It's based on the T72 but has Yugoslav electronics etc

@@sbj1277 ..Yugoslavia is no more, for 30 years....it wouldn't be an upgrade if electronic is that old

@@lazarduke6596 I am speaking about the original model of m84 not about m84as2.

M-84AS

T 90a is a better tank it has a lot better protection because it has redesained turet with a lot more composite armor and it has kontakt 5 ero on top so it has like 800 mm of armor

@@shredderium5130 protection wise it is indeed better, but FCS not really. Commander in M84AS1 has CITV and BMS which is very very important and T-90A lacks those.

@@azrael9016 i talked only about armor but you are correct about CITV and BMS that means a lot for tank crew

@@azrael9016 but im worried because im not sure this new ero alone can take hit from modern apfsds projectiles without redesigned turet but i think there is small chance that they will add in 2nd fase Trophy ATS but im not sure we will se

Take the M95 Degman for example, it's a T72 and it looks like it went thru the Japanese Adult Film Genitals treatment.

it's nice, right?

@@limescaleonetwo3131 better than every T-72 variants.

I think it even beats the T90Ms arrangement

@@deathdragon2283 T-90MS Hmm... She is beautiful in another way

@@n2knolove I mean, the T-72 looks beautiful bare na- I mean, bare bones. Also, the T-80 variants looks nice in a more practical-ish way, same with the T-90A. The T-90AM just looks gorgeous in a modern setting

Every time I hear "the US M1" without context my head spins

Or M4

M1 Garand M1 Bayonet M1 Carbine M1 Mortar M1 Helmet M1 Rocket Launcher (bazooka) M1 Thompson M1 Armored Car M1 Abram (add more here)

Serbs are the best guys to fight alongside..

What is the song he plays during that scene?

T-90 MS is quite nice also

@@joaomiguelmoreira6363 It's also a superior tank. Superior gun in every way, better penetration tank ammunition. Its new welded turret (from Object 187-prototype No.6) alone without ERA offers 800mm + don't forget the ERA-RELIKT, that completely encases the turret. Engine is 1130 horse power, but, the Serbs did figure out how make a 1200hp that can fit inside the regular M-84 hull. We'll see what the future brings, as there is Phase2 getting underway. For what it's worth, this is better than nothing.

@@StefanBlagojevic T-90MS je gradjen na osnovi T-90A koji je samo dobio novu kupolu, dok je sasija i hull ostao isti, tako da mozemo koristito i Ruske motore kao taj sto je u T-90MS

They should go for Czech (Czechoslovakian) Dyna ERA design. Obtain, improve and provide into the armor of this beast. Just like Poles did (for example for Czech T-72M4CZ). Serbia has today most capable post Cold War era tank industry in central Europe. If the tank lacks the power, you can also take a look at T-72M4CZ. It has awesome engine and transmission but still kinda old gun and very old turret. I guess you cant get all of it in some reasonable money.

@@russiandispenser8482 kupola je ista ali na t 90ms dodatna municija je zasticena kao i automatski punjac takodje ima avganit kevlarno cebe koje daje dodatnu zastitu protiv srapnela

Yes but all money we will spend on bitches and rakiya 💪

Thanks

Jaka muda si ti sad izmislio..pa od trulog zapada smo bar 3puta pametniji..zato nas se toliko i plasite ..namerno nisam napisao na engleskom..😂

​@@isidorpetrovic1465a imaš ovi auto translate shit tako da on može prečitati što si napisao

@@patrikcarga pa too too..nek se pomuci malo da prevede..

@Stefan Milovanović we are

this is not t72 this is m84

@@cvarak3784 M84 is just a slight modification of the T-72

@@fuldaman1691 M-84 is superior xd

KajMak64Bit Yes, but if you did not have the T-72, you would not have the m84.

That was the Yugoslav military

US military: Hold my beer!

@@darko_dulic Same tradition of naming is still in use.

@@AintImpressed Hold my M1*

US Military: I'll take your entire *M1* stock!

"Hold my sljivovica" to be exact! Serbian national drink is plum brandy called sljivovica, but otherwise you are right ;) Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia!

They are surely dumb

Bruh

@@njegosh1 or rakija

@@vukle1 a sljivovica nije rakija???? Boze

Unfortunately, all Greek weapons are of American and German origin

@@user-gc1wm6lo3i there's nothing wrong with that, the only thing is they should produce their own munitions. If they can do that there's no point in making new weapons. I mean look at the british L85A1. The guns all right but when you compare it to a reputable gun like the American Ar-15 platform its pointless getting anything else. Greece should stick to American guns and just start making bullets if they wanna save money.

So long as it's a good weapon and you're not completely beholden to the seller nation. 2nd part rules out US

Build ur own kalash

You have leo 2a6 tho

Looks like we’ve got to name another dozen things M1 to assert our dominance

@@deathdragon2283 Murica!

😂

i just died from this one xD

Its a tactical 😉

Yes it is Russian, but we bought licence to make our version of tenk and this version M-84AS1 is very good. Maybe the best of all the others versions of T-72 tenks. All the best for you and everybody who watching this army chanel....

@@slobodanisailovic8281 da

@@slobodanisailovic8281 Ej brate, engleski nije tolko težak, trebalo bi da ga naučis

@@lukam8815 Luka, živim u Bgd i učio sam ga samo u školi gramatiku i malo po putovanjima kroz Evropu. Tačno je da nije tečan ali sve razumem i mogu da se sporazumem.... nije težak ali za moj posao i više nego dovoljno...pozz

@@slobodanisailovic8281 thanks slobadong

Wait the ERA is wery good))

As far as I know the base armor is superior to most T-72s, maybe not the B3 but the original M-84 was far superior to any other T-72 variant at the time of its construction.

They did, it's the T90. If you're referring to current T72's they have upgraded base armor, and kontact 5, and CITV now

It would be extra cool, maybe even Italy should join, since we have mountainous borders, like Greece, and low budget, since we spend most of the money on navy. We have pretty similar requirments

@@davideb.4290 But that will probably never happen cause yall im NATO and we aint

@@nenadrajic9740 In future yes it will.

If the greek army need a new,cheap,and very effective service rifle,buy the serbian M-21 ..

Greece and work shouldn’t be in the same sentence together

Stronk* :D

@@sele5129 tiririri ti tiriri tiririiti

govno ki kovno

From 2016 you are saying next year in Prizeren I wait you and see you nowhere lol

@@mrberisha8155 Jews were waiting for 2000 years but they still got their goal ;)

@@mrberisha8155 More of a form of speech, once war actually breaks out itll turn into a reality

@@a.m.5581 We are ready anytime ....

@@mrberisha8155 Alright, you guys gonna ask for US support again or?

D e b a t a b l e

@@peracality7648 nO

@@SerbonOfficial Compared to other balkan Yugoslavian countries, yes. Compared to everyone else? Not really

We need Yugoslavia tech

@@Sh4d891 we need a own tech tree of Yugoslava and Balkan states. Would like to see M80A IFV, M84A4, M84AS1, M95 Degman, M85D etc

@@ultron2-465 yes they are beautiful, but if they were to add them they would add them under the Russians because they are wagons that derive from the Soviet ones (for example m84a4 derives from the t-72)

@@Ghost19392 yeah or like this

Or a division of ussr similar to the german tech tree

US army has M891A2 with 700mm armor penetration. T72 will not survive

@@gameover_wt7077 bruh hes just making a joke about the name if his comment is about the armor or gun then yeah your comment gets a pass

@@gameover_wt7077 the m892a2 has been taken out of service a long time ago and its penetration at 2km at 0° is 600mm while at less then a killometer is 650mm at 0°.And this isnt a t72 from 1978 lol

JAVELIN 💥☠️

Superbrain like when u order a rug on wish and it turns up the size of a handkerchief

man these Serbs really need machine guns if they are willing to spend millions on one.....

That's genuinely too stupid to be real. Firstly, I can't imagine anyone not clearly specifying they want tanks instead of machine guns; and secondly, anyone who can afford 100 tanks isn't even going to notice the cost of 100 MGs and will just see it as an inconvenience.

@@Dimitrije_Sukovic Superbrain....

War thunder should as well, much better and more original than Chinese and swedish

Or a T-34 with a chassis that looks like a T-50 with a Panther 75mm

fuck yeah, i would be rocking those serbian skins over the tank while listening to some war songs

Yea, just a whole Balkan tree, with aircrafts and some tanks like the modernized WW2 vehicles, M84A4, M84D, M95, M84AS1, M80A IFV, etc

Dude Bulgaria used to have fucking KUD missiles, thousands of tanks, apcs etc. Then when you joined NATO suddenly everything goes away and you are forced to buy US and western shit forcing your own factories to close down.

@@VojislavMoranic This is called being a puppet of the west syndrome

Serbia got old 30 years old jets and this is only makeup for TV and parades, our both countries got puppet goverments and condition in our both armies is worse than ever...

Hey i read about Bulgaria scraping its equipment on wikipedia but i never managed to get a source on that. What happened, why did you do it? Also, what exactly did you scrap and how much? Wikipedia lists hundreds of tanks and APCs and then it just adds"Most of this equipment has been scrapped?"

@@igor7195 šta lupaš? Kako tvoja familija?

@@user-ik3xt1bx2n sve ostale recenzije su smešne u odnosu na ovu

imagine if Roman Empire was still a thing.. and regarding Yugoslavia, it was shitty communist country with weak economy and even weaker army...

B1 is mid-80s, while M1 is late 70s upgrade in 1981.That said, if B3 is based on obr 89 T-72B, base armor will be superior. I was under impression they were putting down armor plates when modernizing so they probably got something new, or maybe not. However ... B3 has T-90A gun, from 2005 so while not sophisticated in its systems, its armor and gun are actually good.

The white eagle is more then needed

@@lukabogdanovic4658 Yeah I concur, I wrote this before I saw them T-72B1MS specs and equipment. It's really well upgraded.

Hahahahahah

A good one🤣

"New Serbian modernized M84 as1 doesn't exist, it can't hurt you" New Serbian modernized M84 as1:

@@nenadrajic9740 HHAHAHAHAHAHHA amazing meme

Hah, I gotta give you props for this comment. This is the funniest one I read today!

Hmmmm a special name you have there!? Let me guess, you're 13-16?

​@@bosanski_Cevap classic... expose yourselves. George Soros puppets offer the best milk, please continue, don't let me interrupt.

A great question

sir this is a wendys

Ignore it, Red...

yup.

M53/59

M70? You mean the Mauser, the Kalash or the pistol?

@@_Jebb_ lol :)

ax, theme for defunct army Војска Републике Српске.

I wish i wasnt serbian so that everybody doesnt hate my country

@RadTheLad same as balkan

@@cursedcliff7562 please unsubscribe. Already long list who did that and now are haters.

a very little research will discover even then the western media had agenda. definitely anti-Serbian.

@@cursedcliff7562 That doesn't change the fact, that yugoslav partisans were a very strong rebellion. Serbia is in my opinion a good country, only, thst the media is clearly anti-Serbian, but that shouldn't bring you down.

this, it looks like a angry cube with a 30mil and its beautiful

@@urosmarsenic9742 20mm

@@IVANBELJIN 30mm

True! First phase includes 9 upgrades, the second phase 12. Which is a total of 21 :)

@@vajaga4624 +

yes

Ah yeah nothing scarier than a small outdated army

@@kaloyandraganov9462 Still scary. Consider their reputation. So. Smart move. If it was me I will do it without a heartbeat. ;)

well all their neighbors our small, serbia has been known to commit crimes against those around them and get away with it soooo.

@@pride2184 Which make me wonder: Why wasn't those state just ally themselve and invade Serbia at once? I mean, they are already NATO member, which mean they will have NATO support. Also if Serbia shoot back the entire NATO military will come for aid. Honestly this is a one on milion change to make Serbia pay to what they did in the past right? ;) *Anyone who clings to the historically untrue-and thoroughly immoral-doctrine that 'violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."* Mr. Dubois, Starship Troppers

@@mammothmk3355 being a Nato member you cant simply started a war and drag the whole block with you. There are rule to avoid the case you mention.

Has an accent, saying things like Mechanism as Mehanizam

@Redryder 8 He is a Serb, from North Korea 😝😝😝

@@StefanBlagojevic he is moron in any case.

@@vickoslavkovic2593 *S I L E N C E*

@@cursedcliff7562 Sajsi.

Да

Ne postoji motor od 1 400 hp kod nas,a i malo je verovatno da ce da ugrade motor od 1200 jer odna mora sasija tenka da se redizajnira sto nije bas isplativo ja mislim da ce ici ili na 840 ili 1000 videcemo

M1 TTB : iam joke to you

@@ikill-98 US: Yes.

passive armor of T-72B obr 89 on hull and turret is almost double of T-72M1. The base of T-72B from 1989 is 15+ years newer tech. Or more. T-72M1 got 16mm high hardness steel plate on the front hull and turret. But B series has composite spaced armor. If they upgraded B3 base armor I dont know, but B3 already has K5 ERA and a much more powerful gun that was first put inside T-90A. Dont underestimate T-72B line, it is obsolete, but if its base armor array was reworked, its not that obsolete, except turret is cast not welded, like from T-90A. Russia isnt buying new T-72s, they upgrade them to keep them relevant. B3 firepower is the same as T-90A due to new gun.

Sergeant Arch Dornan you must to be kidding. That is a crap.

Serbia isnt done upgrading M84s, this is only 9 systems, its first phase, next phase will focus on fire power and mobility, myb even upgrading armor. Im expecting this tank to become as russian t90s, atleast till m20-up. m 20 is newly serbian developed tank (new serbian concept of tank extremly deadly and silent on battlefield)

Ah yes Just put another T-72 line

No we got just 200 m84

We need M84AS1 in War Thunder.

Lol war thunder will make it premium tank same like WOTB

@@ariqasadam199 lmao

@@ariqasadam199 im gonna buy it even if the price is gonna be 60 euros

Also just asking isn't the m84a armour based on the t72b or atleast equivalent to it

@@your_waifu_hates_you Original M-84s had their armor based T-72A, I think while M-84A had its armor based on T-72B. M-84 production started around '84, while M-84A came some years later. I am quite sure that all M-84s today in service are in fact the A variant with its armor based on T-72B, with some improvements. On a side note, a lot of improvements to protection, mine resistance, firepower and FCS have been developed in Croatia ans Slovenia post war. There were also improvements do the instruments inside the tank developed eg. new driver instrument panel. It is unknow how many of these improvements made it to the tanks in service since Croatian govt. deprioritized a lot of military research projects especially during 2000-2003 Račan (Croatian PM) govt. M-84 is since viewed in Croatia as an obsolete platform which should be eventually replaced with something from the west and it does not really make sense to do any major investing in it. Đuro-Đaković, the company that maintains the tanks and the company that made the improvements since moved to license manufacture/assembly of Patria AMVs and to supporting the introduction of Bradley IFVs in Croatian Army. Here is their portfolio: www.duro-dakovic.com/download/documents/read/djuro-djakovic-specijalna-vozila-dd-obrana_31/ Most, if not all, of Serbian upgrades are election cycle stunts. Serbia has already made 3 different upgrade packages for their M-84s. The AS (2004), the AS1 and the AS2. So far there are 2-6 upgraded AS* tanks in the Serbian military. When you look a the Serbian and Croatian military budgets (10-15% difference, bigger budget in Serbia) and factor in that Serbian military has more than twice the number of personnel it is easy to see why. All Ex-Yu militaries reduced a lot in size during 2000s (And that's a good thing!) and are not really seen as priorities by their respective govts. The focus is more on public debt reduction, EU membership, social and welfare programs and keeping the country from falling apart. Someone tag @RedEffect and see if he agrees with my post. It's an old video, but let's see.

@@ChildOfVendetta now if the majority of m84as2 upgrades are m84a wouldnt that mean only the fire power of the upgrade package was a problem since with the aded era the armour protection is atleast 700mm of armour againts apfsds maybe even 800 and the tank has a 1000hp engine already so mobility shouldnt be an issue.

@@your_waifu_hates_you Don't know about armor values, don't really care. As far as I know, mobility was never an issue with M-84s. Croatian ones even have specially modified suspension and tracks designed for helping the tank cope with the specific rocky terrain of Croatian coast. Keeping the tanks highly mobile is in line with the Yugo doctrine and this definitely carried over to Croatian tanks and I think the Serbian ones as well. But there is only so much you can do with something based on a T-72B. The Serbs did a lot in their upgrade. Great, good for them. If they start upgrading the entire fleet of cca 200 tanks today, they will be done in 2030. And then you have something based on an 80s design with 2015-2020 features in 2030. And the tanks in 2030 will have to counter the threats like drones and improved javelins and NLAWs. T-72 and T-80 based tanks are obsolete by todays and tomorrows standards if you are planning for a high-intensity war and are facing threats like brimstone missiles. Are M-84s useful. Yes. But don't expect them to be able to go toe-to-toe with modern tanks and do expect them to be vulnerable to a lot of recently emerged threats as seen in Ukraine. The engineering that went into modernizing the M-84s is great, don't get me wrong. Those guys really did more then expected with what they had on hand. But is it enough? Compare M-84s to tanks todays designs... To Rheinmetall K-2 for example... Even Abrams is nearing the end of its upgrade potential. Americans are already working on new designs. The only reason why M-84s are still around is because no one has the money or the motivation to replace them. The upgrades are here to make them somewhat relevant and those upgrades are not going to be implemented in large numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble. :/ Croatia even gave up on the M-95 in early 2000s/late '90s. And the M-95 had a lot of features that T-90MS has like a separate storage with blow-off panels for additional ammo.

You dont...?

You fly through the tractors and get to better tanks really quickly. Then you hit a brick wall and it takes half a decade to reach the modern vehicles

Or how many in general

God is Yugoslav 🤗

Is it fucks

@@AA-bz1pr what the?

@@Sh4d891 What?

@@AA-bz1pr your grammar is trash lol

YES!YES!YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the video will be 2 seconds long and it will just be red saying ''its terrible''

The TR-85 is in some respects inferior to the T-55, in some respects the same as the T-55. All in all, that means it’s worse than the T-55. The TR-85M1 has a better cannon and aiming device than the T-55. I don't know if there is cannon stabilization. All in all, the TR-85M1 is a modernized stranger version of the T-55. The only reason for the existence of the TR-85 is that Romania can master the knowledge for production of larger caliber tanks such as the TR-125. So the TR-125 was the ultimate goal, not the TR-85. Unfortunately, Romania did not continue the TR-125 program. There would be something to be said about the TR-125. The TR-125 is now just a memory. I would love to see a video about the TR-85, TR-85M1 and T-55. I think that Red Effect deals with relatively modern tanks, not with the outdated TR-85, TR-85M1, T-55, M-60.

Or japanese tanks

@@delfinigor You have no fucking clue what you're on about. You don't even know that the T-55 has a stabilizer. The 85M1 is better in every regard by a lot.

U watched to much ww2 movies with soldiers running along side tank, if the tank gets hit in any case even without penetration infantry around the tank will die from initial blast , and heat , last thing they will worry about is reactive armor