NEW SONY 16-35mm F2.8 GM II vs 16-35mm F4 PZ G

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This video is to explore the key differences between the brand new Sony 16-35mm F2.8 GM II and the relatively new 16-35mm F4 PZ G lens.
Can you get away with just getting an F4 lens or do you need to go that extra price bracket and get the GMaster. There are many things to consider before you think one is already better than the other. Always consider your own circumstances and what you actually need.
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00:29 Specs
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@christopherho8738 10 месяцев назад

I really enjoy having both the 16-35pz and 20f1.8 to pair with my zv-e1 which gives me options between versatility and low light/depth of field yet keeping the rig compact.

@BYJAMESDAVIS 8 месяцев назад

That was exactly what i was thinking. Buying one in a few weeks, and going to start with the 20mm first

@zaiENT1 10 месяцев назад

really appreciate you talking about the fact fast glass doesn't matter for low light on Sony since you can bump ISO to 12,800 which you can't even consider on other camera brands, something people don't usually mention.

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Certainly. I love trying to save people money with alternate options and thinking a little bit outside the box

@CirkFlash 5 месяцев назад

The review is good and helpful to tell the key differences between GM and PZ lens. Thanks.

@photovilla7570 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for this vid! Answered just about everything I needed to know.

@nycmax2002 8 месяцев назад

Great video comparison. Your content is getting better and better and better.

@JanelKLauren 7 месяцев назад

This review was great. I was considering the GM2 and came across the PZ. Thank you!

@PaulFeinberg 10 месяцев назад

Fantastic breakdown! Lots of info and comparisons. Good job dude as always!

@isemtube Месяц назад

Very useful recommendations, thank you

@NikoBols 10 месяцев назад

Great comparison video, Jason. Until before this video, I was confused on which one to get. But the minimum focusing distance is what made me decide now to get the GM II. 🙂

@frankfountain7680 10 месяцев назад

Fantastic video! I have the PZ and, in light of your video, I'll be keeping it. Thank you!

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

thanks for watching

@PecosHank 4 месяца назад

Thanks Jason

@storybabble 10 месяцев назад

Nice job as usual. I have the PZ f/4 and I love it. I don't see myself getting the 2.8 GMII. I think that when I want more blur I'll use my 24mm f1.4 GM or my 35mm f1.4 GM. To me, the 16-35mm is more of a documentary lens for when I don't have time to set up the shot. A f4 has been just fine for those occasions. Thanks again. Love your work.

@starskymedia 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video mate and love the channel. I have the 16-35 PZ and the 24 1.4 GM. This combination for me is much better than the 16-35 GM, which costs more than my two lenses combined! My combination gives me more versatility and the f1.4 is quite a lot noticeably better than 2.8, plus gives a more unique bokeh. Also for landscape shots at 16mm I'll be stepping down the aperture anyway. Great comparison, would love to see some more tutorials from you on how you plan a shoot, particularly the b-roll , transitions and then editing. Cheers!!

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

That’s a very good point. More lenses for similar price and giving more versatility

@adrianymas6166 3 месяца назад

Great review and totally transparent information

@stivnov 10 месяцев назад

About balance on a Gimbal and Focus Breathing: there was a Potato Jet interview with an engineer from ARRI, where he said that changing focus naturally causes focus breathing, because to focus you need to change position of an element inside of a lens (effectively slightly changing lens focal distance). This mean that if you want to avoid focus breathing, you need to introduce an extra element in the lens which would compensate when changing focus. This what ARRI does in their signature primes and I think this might be the case with GM II

@Cheryl407 2 месяца назад

I’m so glad you made this video. I bought the PZ, not finding your video first. I have had such anxiety about my decision and feel I know where I am now. I am a long lens shooter so this was confusing for me.

@Consectatrix 10 месяцев назад

Great comparision Jason! Could you do something similar for the 70-200 gm ii vs 70-200 F4 G II ? Would be really helpful :)

@braoneal 10 месяцев назад

I've been watching your vids ever since I looked to buy a ZVe1 then I go into a deep dive on pho and see you in an episode with Leighton! What a small world lol

@vwjeff 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Jason. I have the PZ and have been wanting the 2.8. After watching this you confirmed I don’t need it on the ZVE1 cause it is so good in low light👍🏻

@pudsboi5203 10 месяцев назад

Good vid. I had the old GM but went back to the tamron 17-28 because I couldn’t tell the difference in image quality on my a7iv

@martin_wood 10 месяцев назад

One thing that was better at 2.8 was the medium shot separation at 35mm. Like you said, closeups not so much but the medium shots have better separation which is useful with run n gun and saves me some time to squeeze out an extra shot without reaching for my 24-70mm. I have the GM II preordered mostly for the lighter weight and keeping that subject separation. Landscapes it would be overkill (don't need background blurred)

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

you're right. At 35mm is where you will definitely notice the big difference. Specially if you need a closer focus distance which will give you even more bokeh

@KeepingThisTech 10 месяцев назад

The PZ 16-35 is outstanding! It’s actually lighter than the 20mm 1.8. I use it all the time for Real Estate photos but for real estate videos, I’ll use the 14mm 1.8. That lens picks up where the 16mm and f4 may leave me wanting a bit more. Amazing combo. Dope video!

@willmannering 10 месяцев назад

Currently deciding between the 14mm and 16-35 pz for realestate video! Will definitely rent both and decide from there. Thanks for sharing your experience ;)

@KeepingThisTech 10 месяцев назад

@@willmannering no doubt.. happy to help! both are fantastic options!

@SamayPhotography 3 месяца назад

I love your Color Grading in this Video

@marscompact7 10 месяцев назад

Your vids just answered my curiosity since the annoucement of the camera and lens a week ago, thank you very much I wish A7CR's ISO performance can handle lowlight with that 16-35 pz. (because i'm gonna paring them with my next winter trip) Ok, maybe not high as 12,800 (3200-6400 for hi-res is a blessing)

@HagaishiSama 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video as always

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Thanks again!

@richarddzisiewski7197 10 месяцев назад

I bought the 16-35 pz thinking that I’d send it back, but surprisingly I really like it. Yes we all want a fast lens but lve found it’s not an issue for what I do and as you’ve mentioned, the Sony cameras are low light beasts! Lightweight and internal zoom makes it great on gimbals and as I’ve mentioned, thought I’d be sending it back, but glad I didn’t.

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

It literally is a gem of a lens. Ever since I first got it I’ve rated it. Super versatile

@jeffreythemeditator 10 месяцев назад

Hi Jason, just the video I was looking for. While I think about the aperture difference, I am wondering what lens/aperture setting you are using in the main talking head segment of this video. I know it isn't using the lenses under discussion, but it has wonderful subject separation. Could you tell me what you are using?

@humble_integrity 9 месяцев назад

thanks for this review, this has been exactly what i wanted to know... that 16-35pz lens is really worth its value where everything is so expensive. it's not much more expensive than the apsc counterpart. the pz lens is also smaller and more compact than the gm.

@stevenwaldstein2249 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for the video. I know each lens has pluses and minuses but it would be great to see those compared separately for video and stills. Just my opinion for what I was looking to take away. Had the v1 GM and have the v2 on pre-order but have the PZ f/4 in my hands. Bought from a friend who left Sony for Nikon and it was really brand new. Also own the other GM II midrange and telephoto zooms and thought I would try to complete the set but still question if it’s worth it. For me in the midrange and telephoto it definable was worth the f/2.8 but at the wide end? Just curious if you have looked at other wides like the Sigma 16-28/2.8 DG DN. It doesn’t have PZ, which as a stills shooter I don’t want, it’s small and light (although 420 gm) as well. Continue to rethink this lens selection.

@himsxoxo 10 месяцев назад

thanks , this is a good info video

@RaymondToms 10 месяцев назад

Hi Jason. Thanks again for a great pros and cons video. I have the old F4 16-35 and love it. F4 vs F2.8 has not been an issue for me - noise wise. I am interested in the PZ, to use with my FX6, but also with my A7iv. Can you test whether the PZ will zoom on the A7iv if you use the Sony wired remote? That would be great when tripod mounted.

@KAPhotography 10 месяцев назад

in a7iv no

@VicBarry 10 месяцев назад

Great vid buddy! Dual base ISO for the win ;) - The size of the PZ and image quality is still serious bang for buck! Hope all is well over there

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Zv-e1 for the win haha. Thanks brother. All well down under. Hope you’re well

@VicBarry 10 месяцев назад

🤣 ZV-E Won - all good mate. Green fields, sheep, rain, beer. What more do I want

@walrenliew 10 месяцев назад

Hi Jason thanks for the nice video, would like to ask which was way better if i wanted to take a wider angle and for underwater videography

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Honestly the GM. Having the faster aperture might be better if you need more light which under water shots can be quite dark at times

@essychan 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comparison! When the 16-35PZ came out last year, it was the lens I’ve been looking for. I’m a travel photographer and a girl, so for me a lightweight lens is the most essential! With landscapes I mostly shoot af F8-F16, thus not even needing the F2.8. Before that I used the 24GM, also because it was the most lightweight option out there (and I personally don’t like Tamron). Maybe for you strong guys size and weight don’t matter! But it’s the first thing I look at when considering buying a lens.

@cuorebiancorossoo 10 месяцев назад

I use 16-35 pz since May 2023, it's wonderful but... but i miss sigma 24 1.8, voigtlander 35 1.2, laowa 15 2.0, sigma 45 2.8 ecc

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I really tried to see the bright side between the two and the capabilities to the F4 lens.

@SteveWB 10 месяцев назад

Nobody reviews a lens like you do. Great Job!

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Nobody is Aussie with this silly accent 😂

@SteveWB 10 месяцев назад

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema You actually know what your talking about. Even though I live in the world of crap autofocus I still learn a lot about cameras and lenses.

@MfkOnyx 5 месяцев назад

hi, very good video, thank's. I guess this was asked in other places, or eve here: what if you balance in the gimbal @24mm, to say in the middle, would that help with the overall balance? thx,

@darylswalker 10 месяцев назад

Intersting comparison dude. I was actually thinking of trading my MK1 16-35 in for the power zoom then this video pops up!

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

it's a sign haha

@darylswalker 10 месяцев назад

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema this is the way 🙏

@EricHa94 5 месяцев назад

Hi I’m just starting out and thinking of getting a wide angle zoom for work purposes. I do not have any wide angle zoom currently in my bag so would you recommend me getting 16-35gmii straight away since I don’t have any wide angle zoom to fall back on?

@jacobzatorsky 3 месяца назад

Lovely video! I'm getting the PZ lens. f.4 should be okay :)

@AlexDelfont 6 месяцев назад

How about the PZ paired with an A7iv, would this camera be able to up the ISO enough when shooting internal rooms etc and not have too much noise?

@sarojdhakal6937 10 месяцев назад

Great video. Hi, I am a landscape photographer and occasionally shoot night sky too . I have currently the all in one lens: 24-105 but i want to upgrade my passion to wide angle. I am still confused between these 2 options. Will you please help me with it. 1. sony 16-35gmII 2. sony 16-35pz+20mmf1.8.

@MiguelClimbs 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comparison Jason. 100k subs coming up! Cheers from Las Vegas.

@brettgoulder5208 10 месяцев назад

One nice thing is the PZ pairs up really well with Clear Image Zoom, effectively making it a 16-50mm/f4

@cedricphoo 10 месяцев назад

for ZVE1, family travel video to probably Tokyo or Europe, with dynamic stabilisation on, take both day and night time video, hope to have fantastic video quality, but I also want to enjoy travel. Should I get the 16-35 PZ or 16-35 GM II?

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

I must admit the gmaster does give you more options with that f2.8 but the low light performance of the zv-e1 makes the f4 lens fine to use. Tough choice but maybe go the f4 lens then extra money put towards a fast prime like a 20mm f1.8 or 24mm f1.4

@adil_Saeed 6 месяцев назад

thnx you are the best

@hawkensanimations2516 9 месяцев назад

weird question but can this lens work well with an APSC body like the a6700? might be overkill but I plan on investing in full frame eventually so I wonder if this can be great on APSC bodies too

@criticaltinker 6 месяцев назад

yes it will work. but it will become 35 x 52.5mm on your A6700 because of crop factor.

@smallbizdigitalmedia 10 месяцев назад

Another fantastic video from the Aussie Undone 😂 How does the autofocus performance compare?

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂 love it. Auto focus is almost identical when putting the gmaster to f4. They both have the new XD linear motors so that is expected

@microimation 10 месяцев назад

What do you think about the sigma 14-24mm? I have full frame but also an fx30, but the fx30 crops a lot, so I think that sigma is the best option for both full and crop Greetings from Mexico! 🇲🇽

@reelweaver 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the review! A clever engineer at Sony might had thought: Hey if you mount an Nd Filter, it has to slightly shifts its weight towards the body to compensate the Nd Filter center weight moving more outwards. I would always have an Nd Mounted. How ever the power zoom is so much better. Hard decision. I don’t know how much I will be filming in 2.8. maybe 4.0 really is enough.

@angelathomas2117 10 месяцев назад

Hi am wanting a 16-35 F4 PZ do you think this would be good for night scapes in the blue hour please

@benldr 10 месяцев назад

For landscapes you're going to want to stop down for sharpness so the aperture doesn't matter.

@jasonlau8944 10 месяцев назад

depends on use situation I will say, for interior wide shot I prefer a smaller aputure to see thing more clearly, while for interviews and documentaries, normally it's hard to go lower than F4 for a wide shot cam A, since you might need to capture the relationship between the environment and the interviewees, while nowadays most sony camera have dual ISO, Noise problem already not a big deal though, F2.8 might be benefits in just a shallow depth of field nowadays, but I rarely do a wide shot with F2.8 in a wide shot indeed, for F2.8 or more, I rather grab another 24-70 2.8 or 70-200 GM2 for B-Roll more better.

@agri2986 7 месяцев назад

why is the shot size different about depth of field ( batman photo)?

@darricklowe2206 10 месяцев назад

Never used a gimble, but couldn't you balance for 28 or 24 to allow for full range of zoom down to 16 and 35 without the camera unbalancing.

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

That’s what you do for normal gimbals yes. You extend 50% out. But the point if you listen to the video is that Sony design the lens to be perfectly balanced. I was demonstrating their claims as stated in my words in this video

@chrissan6015 3 месяца назад

I am about to make about $7000 worth of lenses and I’m stuck between the 16 to 35 GM ii or getting the 16 to 35 F4 and the 35 1.4 GM prime can you please help me out with this

@tokkke 10 месяцев назад

4:50 What if you put a filter on the lens? I think it would be possible to balance it perfectly with the right filter.

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

you would be correct. A filter would make it balance perfectly level since the lens extends

@tokkke 10 месяцев назад

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema They probably designed it to be used with the lens hood. Maybe that would make the balance perfect for both zoom positions.

@garrigasebastien 10 месяцев назад

Great video thanks !! I have this 16-35 pz lens but on manual mode I have to use the ring to change the aperture I cannot do it on the body of my a7IV … ? Too bad

@Valleedbrume 7 месяцев назад

The PZ is great No problem and it gives me the zoom rocker for my FX6.No brainer for me.

@JasonPierceOfficial 10 месяцев назад

I still have the GM 16-35 mark 1, do you believe it's worth the upgrade? I'm just doing stuff on YT, no client or pro work

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

the new GM II is perfect but I don't think it is worth upgrading if you have the Mark I. save your money for another lens to add to your kit

@JasonPierceOfficial 10 месяцев назад

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema god bless brother, I just pre ordered the a7cii, upgrading front the a7c mark one (8bit) to 10bit was well worth it in my opinion. Jason you have to do an a7c vs a7cii comparison once you get the chance. Thanks mate!

@ClaudioDesideriFilms День назад

Responding to your question Jason, yes this video has definitely helped making my decision. Guess which one I'll steer towards 😉

@ProjectileGrommet 10 месяцев назад

Do you prefer a slower zoom lens or a faster prime? Bokeh aside, the decision for me is coming down to more lowlight options flexibility/noise reduction vs zooming with my feet Its really coming down to the viltrox 16mm 1.8 vs a Tamron 17-28 2.8

@papaelf_ 10 месяцев назад

Why not the Sony 20?

@ProjectileGrommet 10 месяцев назад

@@papaelf_ well… I don’t know. The $800 one right? I guess I haven’t considered it yet. I guess it’s not… as wide? I guess I don’t mind much because anything is wider than my 70-180 2.8 haha Would you recommend the Sony 1.8 over the 16mm viltrox? I really don’t care about the viltro’s screen if that helps? Would you say its sharper and/or better for landscape and architecture?

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

I personally prefer faster prime in almost every situation

@mrmonday42 10 месяцев назад

@@ProjectileGrommet The Sony 20mm f1.8 is razor sharp with excellent build quality and autofocus...at $800 it is excellent value. Nothing Viltrox makes comes close to it.

@benjhaisch 10 месяцев назад

I don’t use the 16-35/4PZ as much as I should, but the lens is fantastic

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Yeah brother the forgotten hero haha

@fluxcapacitor3273 10 месяцев назад

it looks like PZ is sharper in the corners :D yeah it's an amazing lens but that much?

@chirsd666 10 месяцев назад

The 16-35 GMII looks awesome. If I was starting from scratch I would consider it. That said, I'm real happy with my compact 16-35 PZ, and I also have the brilliant 12-24 f2.8 GM. Sony is just killing it with their lens line-up.

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

I'm glad they're updating all the older stills lenses and making them usable for video

@chickenandricecrew9867 9 месяцев назад

The price for the GM 16-35 mk 2 is ridiculous....u can get the PZ g lens plus 20mm 1.8 g lens for that price which now u have a vloging lens for day time and one for night/low light. I have the 16-35 pz and love the form factor soooo much more better than the huge GM.

@RyanKorea 10 месяцев назад

For video I never use less than F4. F5.6 is my personal favourite.

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Oh easy choice for you then haha

@thegorn 2 месяца назад

The GM2 is now $3,149 Aussie. Still dear. I have the PZ lens and as a landscape photographer, I love the image quality but have to say the handling of it really ticks me off. The focus ring and zoom ring are so close that when I'm working with it in gloves on cold days I have to always look away from the viewfinder and have a good look at the lens so I can grab the right ring. I love how the GM2 has the zoom ring well away from the focus ring. Plus I miss being able to look at the lens and know what focal length I am at. This zoom by wire... yeah not a big fan. That is why I'm now saving up the extra $$ for the GM2.

@EugeneMechanisM 5 месяцев назад

I have 16-35 gm II but want sony fe c 16-35 T 3.1 G

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 4 месяца назад

The budget Sony cine lenses are all due for an update

@4exov3224 13 дней назад

Спасибо! У меня стоит выбор, 16-35 PZ или 16-35 gm ii Но я понял, что подойдет 16-35 PZ. Он и легче, проще будет на dji ronin rs 3 mini + a7siii. А на свободные деньги куплю ещё что-нибудь)

@tld8102 10 месяцев назад

the power zoom lense sounds good on a gimbal

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Actually is quite nice

@KTtv1991 10 месяцев назад

No one wanna talks about the super jacked makeup artist ?! 😂 she’s so cool !

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Haha she’s got a fitness competition coming up in 4 weeks 😂 that’s why she’s currently very shredded

@Riskbreaker2009 3 месяца назад

14mm GM + 16-35 G PZ + 24-70 GM II + Samyang AF 135 1.8

@Shadow_Li 10 месяцев назад

The price of GM II is insane

@kwondohun 6 месяцев назад

I don't know what to do lol

@infiveg 9 месяцев назад

😁 Я выбираю 16-35 ф4 Zeiss

@OriginaldoBo 10 месяцев назад

As a real estate videographer and photographer you’ll never find me at F2.8 unless it’s a detail shot. Photos are always shot F7.1 or F8 to ensure everything is in focus Video F4 ensures all establishing shots are sharp and in focus. With Sony bumping the ISO is perfectly fine to accommodate for the smaller aperture.

@ProjectileGrommet 10 месяцев назад

Do you ever shoot in lower light settings? Or are you pretty much always in broad daylight?

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 10 месяцев назад

Yeah brother. Agreed 🔥🔥

@criticaltinker 6 месяцев назад

i'm also an REP myself. the only issue with the PZ lens for me is the barrel distortion but only around 16mm though which i rarely use. The widest i used it is 18mm.