Man, Korea builds some nice tech, in many areas. This thing is quite sexy, capable and and seemingly, excellent value for money. Not to mention, that I am blown away by the development, demonstration, testing and production setup processes. Kudos to you Korean friends!
South Korea has more than 7,000 Caterpillar armoured equipment, including tanks, armored vehicles and self-propelled artillery, to keep China and North Korea in check. Wheel-driven combat vehicles are many times more. So, South Korea is always stockpiling huge NATO standard ammunition. The munitions industry, which produces the highest quality ammunition, is always up or on standby immediately. In other words, unlimited ammunition can be supplied to Australian forces anytime, anywhere.
The AS21Redback is the best deal. It makes work for Australian workers and families. Plus it builds relations with the South Koreas who are facing the same dragon as Australia. That would be a good move to build a coalition in the neighborhood. Maybe even get the Japanese and Philippines involved on other military projects. Necessity is the mother of invention!
I think the Japanese are still under treaty since WW2, and cannot he involved in oversees military operations or even export military equipment... That's why Japanese aren't a big military exporter.... Without that treaty... I bet Japan would've been a top weapons maker in the world.
@@tigerjonn Wrong, I'm afraid. That "don't export weapons" Japan had scrapped that *self-limitation* years ago, still 0 sales (except for that 1 radar Philippines bought ONCE and stopped buying. That's not even a weapon and _still_ Philippines weren't impressed). Japan is too incompetent. Even more so for weapons manufacturing. The Self defense force is already too big to be just a "defense force" and surpassed the spirit of the Treaty long ago so no excuse there. (The UN did not forbid Japan from "making" weapons, just having a standing military that can attack others and the treaty says if Germany and Japan ever looks like they are going to attack another country again, all nations are allowed to preemptively attack them) Not even the Japanese consider their Self Defense Force to be any good, especially when they see anyone who goes there in this time and age are losers who can't get a regular job (and hence they have a problem of extremely old troops who can't and won't fight, since they are technically more like a type of public servant than disciplinable military). The Japanese weapons are all very specifically tailor-made to their own country's uniquely inefficient and ancient infrastructure (hell, they can't even unify their electric supply, Western and Eastern Japan require different specs for the same machine!). Plus they have limited production on lots of things that raises prices far too high, and being the only provider for most weapons, Japanese weapon manufacturers have gone lazy and would prefer to lobby their way away to making shoddy weapons because there is hardly any competitor, nor did they even think to sell to other countries, but demanded other countries to follow their inefficient standard instead. But that's not even the real problem. It's just overall industrial incompetence. Here's the typical Japanese way of doing business: steal tech, sell it and spread propaganda they did it because they were geniuses, and use the ill-gotten profits to sue the inventors to oblivion even if it takes decades and the bankruptcy of the inventor. Even if you fail, the fact that it took them decades to seek justice means you were done with the product anyway and the world believes the lie that you are competent and innovative, and will continue buying other products from you. That's the story of SONY and the theft of the Walkman from Andreas Pavel. Even hired thugs to break into his lawyer's office and steal his legal notes and evidence. 3 times. Where do you think China learned all its tricks? Japan's 1-party rule from 1955 ("The 1955 System" google it) has created a lot of corruption and illegal ties between the bureaucracy and the same political families ruling Japan since WW2 to this day (Prime Minister Abe himself started his political career in one of the ministries through nepotism, his grandpa was a class A convicted war criminal who paid off the judges and still got to be a powerful figure in Japanese post-war politics until he died). Look into history and you will find the CCP is merely Japan 2.0, and Japan nowadays is just reluctantly giving their grudge a temporary rest due to their failing economy, do not be fooled. (They STILL blame PEARL HARBOR on America, like America somehow "forced its hand" by not selling anymore oil and steel to fuel its conquest all over Asia and push towards Australia, using WMDs and anthrax germ bombs and poison gas bombs made in Hiroshima on cities all over Asia and developing nukes all along the way.) Actually, Mao Zedong's head would be on a pike if the Japanese didn't start WW2 in 1937 by invading the Republic of China, a war that killed 25 million in China alone and caused chaos and destabilization for Mao to be spared and spend time avoiding all battles and left the Republic Nationalists to do all the bleeding to save China, while Mao grew his communist influence for 12 years spreading propaganda that the Nationalists were not fighting and it is the CCP that was doing all the fighting (he even punished his own General Peng for fighting Japan for the first and final time, saying he wasted resources that should've been used to kill the upstanding men of the Chinese Republic after the Japanese weakened them). Don't be fooled by Japanese propaganda spread during the Cold War when America was pumping both China and Japan full of American tech and money to hopefully get them on their feet and fight the Soviets for America. Never worked. It's no coincidence Japan is going through 30 years of Recession right now called "The Lost 30 Years" which began right after the Cold War ended. The reason for this was America finally decided to let the American companies sue the shit out of Japanese companies for selling US tech to the Soviets in secret, despite America making them sign the COCOM treatise _precisely BECAUSE_ this was a possible risk, and the Japanese proved to be unreliable backstabbers. Their recession is a result of having to stop relying on America after all their currency shenanigans and tech theft. The entire basis of modern factory manufacturing, the computerized numerical control (CNC) invented in America in the late 40s, was gifted to Japan yet they sold to Kremlin. They were caught. They tried to sell some American semiconductor technology too, but were stopped. Suddenly the very loud and crudely made Soviet nuclear submarines, once easily detectible, became too silent to detect easily, because of this betrayal. This is just one of many examples ordinary people are woefully unaware of. Shipbuilding, microchips, imaging, consumer electronics, computers... when America backed Japan in the Cold War, they "appeared" to excel in all these things. Now all these industries, you never hear they have anything to do with Japan. Unless for disasters like Japanese-built ships breaking down like the Wakashio in Mauritius, or the Evergiven Suez Canal blockage, built by Japanese shipbuilders. Sharp electronics fell. Toshiba fell after skimping on safety measures for their supposedly "miniaturized" nuclear reactors that caused the Fukushima nuclear disaster which blew 3 whole reactors compared to Chernobyl's 1. Japanese Kobe Steel has been outed for *50 YEARS* of fraudulent data (was a big industry scandal as Toyota, Nissan, Boeing etc. all scrambled to check the integrity of their products). Olympic fell when an American CEO uncovered decades of double-booking and they scapegoated it all on the foreigner who dared to rock the boat. Nissan fell when it scapegoated all its faults onto Carlos Ghosn. When the company is in trouble, hire foreigners and then make him the scapegoat, send him to jail, and have a Japanese man retake the reins when all the work he was too incompetent for was done for him. Rinse and repeat.
So it turns out that when Aussies and Koreans work together, we create incredible stuff. I'm seriously impressed that a foreign company didn't try to sell us some 'off the shelf' product, but instead came here and worked with our defence industry to develop this new beast. We should be doing more work with South Korea! Those guys are awesome!
Just don’t let the Australian government know about this wonderful cooperation. Someone in power would find a way to stop that happening, or try to make a buck out of it. IMO.
Unfortunately, the top cronies of the AU government are fiercely pro-Europe in every aspects. They have often went with European made weapons despite the protest from the actual frontline users in armed forces in the past...
Any claim that the Korean AS21 Redback is based on US Bradley is incorrect. The new Korean Redback AS21 is specifically designed for the Austrailian combat theatre which is very different from the mountainous Korean terrain split with numerous rivers and creeks that flow through the valleys. For instance, the current Korean IFV K21 is equipped with tough airbag buoys on the flanks that enable the vehicle to float and cross the river at the speed of 6km/h. Such amphibian capability of K21 is an absolute must for the mountainous Korean terrain, but not found on the later US Bradley. The initial Bradleys in early 1980's had what it called "flotation curtain," but its impracticality caused it to be scrapped from later versions. The Korean AS21 Redback inherits its number 21 from the K21 IFV, but it's not given the K21's amphibious capabiliy. The generally dry Austrailian terrrain condition prevented it at the drawing board. Instead, AS21 is designed and equipped with much more powerful 1000 hp power pack mounted on Korea's K9 Thunder 155 mm howitzer. The K21 IFV has the smaller 750 hp power pack. Hanwha Defense that makes K21 and AS21 also makes K9 howitzer and signed the contract in 2020 with the Austrailian government to supply 30 K9's and 15 K10's for $1 billion. K10 is the automated ammunition resupply vehicle to K9 that uses the same K9 chassis. Hanwha's Austrailian variant of K9 and K10 are designated AS9 Huntsman and AS10, respectively. So the Austrailian government's choice of Hanwha's AS21's together with AS9's and AS10's will boost the industrial and economic synergy from manufacturing them on the Aussy soil with domestic Aussy partners. Furthermore, one very important feature unique on AS21 is the use of rubber caterpillar tracks instead of the usual iron tracks. AS21 rubber caterpillar tracks are actually stronger than the traditional iron track and can be repaired in the same way the old iron tracks are repaired. The AS21's rubber tracks are also far lighter than the old iron track and drastically reduces the noise level inside the vehicle in operation and vastly improves the driving comfort. This reduction in noise level and increase in driving comfort render vastly enhanced combat-readiness for the transported troops inside the vehicle. Further, the use of rubber for tracks prevents bloody damage to troops outside the vehicle in case the vehicle is hit by enemy rocket or runs over enemy mine. The traditional iron caterpillar tracks cause shrapnel explosion injuries to friendly troops outside the vehicle when enemy rocket or mine hits the iron caterpillar tracks. Such is the real disaster and threat on real battlefield repeatedly experienced in Iraq, Syria, and else where. The deployment of stronger-than-steel rubber tracks on AS21 Redback is a historic innovation and presents major battlefield advantage over Rheinmetall Lynx, US Bradley, or other traditional iron-track-using IFV's. Lynx is no match against AS21 Redback.
There's some good pointers here, but next time please make them into segments. Without segmenting the text into more clear cut parts the information gets harder to digest.
I was concerned about the rubber tracks longevity, but one of my best mates owns a tyre & muffler business. His perspective is the Koreans are making the best road vehicle tyres in the world right now, so hopefully that's transferable to these. And clearly you can't go wrong with a Rheinmettal Turret. Best of luck! Must be depressing to have built these knowing their final test will literally be seeing how large a round it will take to blow them up. Ouch! PS. We usually spell Aussi with an i, but it's slang, it's not an actual rule...
@@Xavier28200 Yeah, Russia is full of resources and bright minds, especially in the engineering field. All it needs is a new leader, who is charismatic as Putin but isn't as radical and erratic lol. Hopefully, the war in Ukraine will end soon and Putin will pay for the Russian and Ukraine lives lost for no significant reason. So sad to see T90s and Terminators being lost for no reason when gaijin hasn't even added them to Warthunder yet :(
@@yomamal8353 No significant reason? Ok first off the west were funnelling in weapons to Ukraine for a invasion of Russia Secondly Ukraine had been killing Russian speaking people and members of the Orthodox Church thirdly the bombing of the Donbas also the fact that Ukraine had voted for Crimea to be part of Russia but they never got it also Ukraines slow walk into NATO arms the west plan to divide Russia supply one side with weapons and see both destroy each other
Australia just today signed a deal with the ROK to buy (AUD) $1 Billion in self propelled howitzers and the PM was very positive about the Redback. The ROK needs to be brought into the Quad strategic partnership with Australia, India, USA and Japan. Given the historical enmity between Japan and the ROK, I think Australia is trying to act as an honest interlocutor.
This was designed for export to Australia, but ROKA wants to buy about ~100 more IFVs and they consider Redback as an option. The other option is that its older brother K-21.
@@rrenkrieg7988 I think the redback draws from AS21 A3 design being reviewed for Redback replacement, although it appears now ROK will consider the Redback.
Would much prefer the Australian Army to select the Redback than Lynx. No offence to the Europeans but the track record of European equipment in ADF service isn't exactly stellar where as this is specifically designed for Australia by a company who has already secured the SP Artillery contract for the Australian Army with the AS9 Huntsman. Also well done on pronouncing Geelong correctly😎
@@roberthenze8600 More competition is always better. Currently, Rheinmetall and the German arms industry, in general, were getting a bit too far ahead of the competition. The last thing I would want to see is them getting a monopoly over most of NATO seeing as the German government could use it as a form of political pressure. "You don't agree with us then no more weapons for you" as they did with Turkey. I much rather see Polish, Ukrainian, Swedish, and Turkish arms industries with help of the Korean arms industry to catch up and provide competition. Especially since the Polish experience with the Rheinmetall so far was pretty bad.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 Yeah, the polish experience with the leopard 2 is very "bad" kek. So "bad" that they upgrading there tanks. Rheinmetall needs competition, when the US ,RUS and france are exporting wayyy more weapons. Ok, in you opinion its bad, not to supply waopons to everyone
@@Mr.Chlorophil Congratualtions. You just proved to everyone you have no idea about the topic. The modernization of Leopards 2a4 to 2PL standard is precisely what I am talking about. Rheinmetall completely fucked up this order. According to the agreement signed in December 2019, all 128 Leopard 2A4 in Polish service were to be modernized to 2PL standard until July 31, 2023, So far only 23 tanks received the upgrade because Rheinmetall failed to provide the parts. Not only this but also the whole order ended up being more expensive than previously promised. And this is not the first time when Rheinmetall fucked up like this.
The capabilities of both machines sound great. In combat, I wonder if there would be much difference?? If not, then the benefit to Australia's economy and arms industry that the Redback gives will likely be the decision maker.
At this point it doesn't even matter which of the vehicle Austria gets, because they are both pretty much equal on capability terms. The most important part is that both variants would have the same APS (Active Protection system), and the same Spike ATGM (top-attack missile) and the same digital battle management system. So eitherway whichever variant Australia will decide to buy, it will give the Australian Army a very powerful and capable modern IFV.
@@xAlexTobiasxB Capability is a secondary consideration. Support-ability and maintain-ability are likely far more important considerations. That means local supply is a big advantage, especially when consideration given to the practicality of maintaining this equipment on a wartime footing.
Unfortunately, the top cronies of the AU government are fiercely pro-Europe in every aspects. They have often went with European made weapons despite the protest from the actual frontline users in armed forces in the past...
@@amuxpatch2798 what in the world are you talking about? Oh you mean technology transfers? Oh you know, what every country does including the US? Countries negotiate the transfer of tech in exchange for certain conditions.. also, the US stole tech from Russia for it's anti aircraft systems and missile guiding systems. The us also used nazi scientists for a lot of its military programs including the flying wing concept and fighter jets. The American military isn't as clean as you think it is. Full stop to that. Also, wdym Korea copies the US? They've been making fantastic equipment for decades now with influences from the US so I'm curious to know where you got that from.
Do you think Korea's potential customers will be NATO aligned Countries, or old Warsaw Pact people? The Koreans would be smart to make everything as NATO compatible as possible. If that means it looks like a copy of US, UK or German products, that probably means they're doing it right.
@@amuxpatch2798 Have you ever seen a patent application? They all start with "prior art." Nothing is invented in a vacuum. All technology is related to some pre-existing technology. Even the freakin wheel.
Well if the Korean company is going to build in Australia and reinvest the money from Australian taxpayers back into Australian economy, and the weapons system isn’t much worse than the European competitors, then the choice is a no brainer
Well rly depends on how it does in trials, the problem with newer Prototypes is that most of them lack in reliability and are not field tested, so in almost all cases you face issues. The Puma which is basically a Lynx is still beeing adjusted and upgraded and it's been with the Bundeswehr since 2010. Rly depends on what the Austrailan Goverment wants, all you can 100% say is that all bidders offer a newer better IFV than the M113
@@graemesydney38 but it s beeing replaced by an IFV with far greater capabilities and more modern, sry if my statement wasn t clear im german so not the most amazing english.
@@OoOoOo-we3dn Understanding the difference means you understand that the replacement of an APC with a IFV represents a change in military doctrine and tactics more than a change or improvement in military equipment.
@@OoOoOo-we3dn The Puma and the Lynx are absolutely not the same vehicle. Rheinmetall developped the Lynx because they anticipated the export to be interesting. The Puma was a very specifically targetted vehicle for the German Army. But the AS21-Redback is a development of the K21 which has been produced since 2009. So in fact, you're at the opposite of the reality.
70 years ago, almost 9000 Australian troops have fought alongside with ROKA during the Korean War. Two countries will be allies regardless of the bid won or lost. It’s great to see such partnerships continue in the private sector as well and wish for the co-prosperity of the two nations. Props to Hanwha for the localization efforts and co-developing.
Unlike Western Europe, the military industry is very active in South Korea due to N. Korea, so cost savings can be obtained from the economy of scale in the production of defense products. That's the reason why Korean-made weapons are cheaper than German-made weapons is not because of their quality.
@@kevcump62 Yes, they did say it had 200 rounds. Yes, they did say it can fire 200 rounds per min. Why doesn't that add up? I don't know what you were meaning. But I think it is relevant to tell you that unless you're trying to shoot down a helicopter, you don't go full auto. They fire in "3 to 4 round bursts".
That vehicle does look great and it seems to be loaded with all the necessary parts needed in combat by any force. The Australians have a challenge in determining which vehicle to choose for their forces and keep the price down as much as possible.
Well naming AFVs after animals is more of a German thing…..but the South Koreans do it too. They are the only counties I can think of. The Russians don’t do it. Neither do the British, Americans, Chinese, Swedes, French, Fins, Italians, Turks, Indonesians or the Japanese
Great demonstration of localized partnership. Maybe they can build Australian version of the K2 Black Panther as well. Perhaps without hypo pneumatic suspension system and with addition of RCW. Great to to see these two nations working together.
looks like even you korean got all drunk and Australian winery industry got also eliminated. South korean is just a small country and this is the reality.
I am from Europe and I have to say Auzzies make some excellent red wine (I am quite partial to the Oxford Landing wine region). And I am really spoiled for red wine ... a bit of a wine snob actually :)
Love this “Shocked the World” usage . . . Evidently the world is is deemed to be the size of a city park . . And inhabited by Puritans who have just seen a bare ankle . . thus shocked.
Thank you very Interesting having been an APC Crew Commander ////// And I may say the the 40mm would be a top addition ,but bulky Having fired the 40nn when in the Navy .... And South Korea working here in Australia would be a Substantial advantage for our Industries and the ADF ....J
Yes you need to say whether you believe it’s very good or very bad if you are going to make statements like that. I assume you mean it is very good but many people still have poor opinions of Korean cars despite the high quality these days.
Well given the level of competence demonstrated by the current Australian government in these matters, I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped both proposals in favour of a fleet of armoured London taxis.
Composite rubber tracks by Soucy (Canada). Even Rheinmetall decided to offer the KF41 Lynx with a composite rubber tracks after driving tests showed it was much better.
Looks like a similar potency compared to the Bradley fighting vehicle.....that was well proven in Iraq and Afghanistan. Great infantry support ROK....whats the communications like in this vehicle,for integrated battle with other systems,working together,as well as enemy spotting features?
With all due respect, Bradleys are stone-age cattle wagons compared to either KF41 Lynx or AS21 Redbacks in every way. Better situational awareness and battle data network sharing and targeting, etc.
Estland here- we took the CV-90´s bc the maker of this machinery is Sweden, right at our door steps, so if we need more ammo they can just air drop it in matter of hour
I drove a 113 and this thing would be so much better for our troops, or any troops who uses this in replacement of the 113. I'd like to see two A.I. battle it out towards the best tanks, trooper carriers etc.
Watched it twice. They even made a graphic for it. SIX IT SAYS, SIX PAIRED ROADWHEELS. Redback has 7 roadwheels. Count them up. Are you SURE you want to go that route? I have 7 years experience in mechanized infantry operations on 4 continents with m2 bradleys. Two questions. Firstly, who are you fighting? Australia will be a major staging point in any conflict in that theater and as such protected by multinational coalition. Have plans to take the show on the road? Secondly, as an ally of the U.S.,why not buy refitted bradleys for 1/3rd the price of any new vehicle. It makes sense to move ahead to the next iteration from the 113, and that one is tested and proven, and available readily and rapidly.
Curious to know whether anyone's noticed that a good whack of this footage is actually of the Lynx IFV, the other vehicle in competition for the Land 400 Phase 3?
Did he say choosing the Redback, which is the only Asian option, over the Lynx, is 50 percent less? Why does it take so long to make a decision like that? Does Australia need the time to get the money together? If I was Rheinmetall, I would be packing my shit and asking for my prototypes back and trying luck with US M2 replacement.
One day the Australian Fed Government will figure out you either design gear form the gorund up like this thing, or buy it complete off the shelf. Everytime they buy and existing platform and try to modify it, they fuck it up!
The picture supposed to be showing the K-31 is in fact the Turkish FNSS Kaplan 20. Turkish vehicles are mostly combat proven. This is more important than any advertisement.
In the electric vehicles era, and there are still people using infantry vehicles with tracks instead of wheels to transport infantry... 6x6 or 8x8 are the rules... more speed, more range, more economy! Centauro or Guarani... surpass all these features and can use REMAX, UT30BR up to a TORC30 towers.
You are not reading upon what the Aussies are intending. The Land 400 Phase 2 was given to Rheinmetall Boxer CRVs which have wheels like you wrote above. The Land 400 Phase 3 on the other hand requires tracked IFVs.
Most militaries buy equipment that would have been useful in their last war (experience bias). Extremely difficult to predict what you need for the next war! Both contenders look great - I wonder if they will be ever needed?
The clip starting at 6.55 shows a AS21 rolling out of a garage. It's clearly in Israel, the power line transformer si the type they use in Israel. Merkerva mark 4 on the left and a Elbit ATMOS Artilleriry trukc, Based on a MAN 8x8, with the gun stripped off. I wonder what a korean IFV is doing in Israel. At 7.06 a Mowag IV with either a 25 or 30mm canon. Odd one of those are in Israel, Mowag never sold any mark IV's, officially.
Guven the size of Australia its road systems and logistic problems 65 kms and 40 kms per hour off road and a range of 512 kms the overall mobility is nowhere near good enough. Australia does not have the airlift capability over medium distances let alone long distances to make up for a lack independent mobility in its vehicles.
Unfortunately, given their track record with dogko ship, their K2 tank and their surion helicopter is going, I would assume this would be also be the case of much problems and headaches.
It has been more than 50 years since the Korean elite began industrialization, and the skills of field engineers are now the best in the world. Also, Korea has an American practical spirit in making products. Korean elites do their best with a sense of responsibility for exports due to their high self-esteem in Confucianism. If Australia chooses a Redback, there will be no regrets with the product.
How about Hyundai? Which is an automaker/chaebol who hides recalls and only after brave whistleblower both in the US and Korea came out and the South Korean police RAIDING their office and started investigation are they forced to do recall and they are still hiding some issues with the newly introduced Smartstream engine lineup. Thus, they won't get my business as they are the same corrupt chaebol but now they have "so much tech and features" to hide behind. www.reuters.com/article/us-hyundai-motor-raid-idUSKCN1Q9071 www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/business/hyundai-south-korea-whistle-blower-recall.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2NnT9cUhpH8.html
Nice Australia isn't buying American junk. I would personally prefer the German Lynx based on design and I think it would be a better tank overall but this tank is basically Australian built so I'm just as happy.
