Anybody who does is an utter mug - and is being ripped off. Over £4000 for a groupset - Madness!! Time the cycling media called these companies out.....
I have both the former generations of Red and Force AXS, as well as both Red 22 and Force CX1. Which i am considering upgrading to 12 speed with Ratio technology. A quick note on Sram front derailleurs. Everyone complains about chain drops; well, set them up like a Sram front derailleur and not a shimano one! Everyone ive ever seen have issues, has set them up like its a shimano 105 or Tiagra derailleur. Its not. Its a Sram derailleur. Which means you gotta set it up different. No issues with Sram here.
This! SRAM AXS front derailleurs are trivial to setup thanks to the SRAM RU-vid channel and the alignment tools included with the groupset. My FD has been flawless since I setup it properly.
@noelclaremont I'm talking ALL Sram derailleurs are like this, but exactly. They take a specific setup. It's simple, if you do it wrong, it won't work and if you do it right, it works. But your right. Setup is trivial. I'm glad you have found success.
Wow $3,700 for the 'unpowered' groupset. That's more than what I paid for my GRX 600 equipped Salsa Journeyer and a set of very nice Nobl+Onyx carbon wheels. I'm obviously not at the level to need this type of tech but I can't imagine spending that much just on a groupset.
Yeah don't get rid of it Sram are garbage compared to campagnolo 11 speed .my sram force etap jump out the derailer and snap the front derailer in half .
My desire: Right tap = RD higher x1 Right hold = RD lower x1, hold longer x1 more, etc. Left tap = FD lower x1 Left hold = FD higher x1 AXS app does not appear to allow this. Seems the system is capable as hold buttons are recognized to activate multishift. AXS app offers some customization. Frustrating though as the customization I desire, which is not radical but is to function as SRAM's own Double Tap is not an option. Clearly though this function can be possible.
I had Campagnolo Record 11 speed machical. Recently bought Sram Force 12 speed etap ..I made the biggest mistake of all time . I was out riding shifting to easier cog all suddenly the chain jump out side of the rear derailer ,into the spokes ! And snap my front derailer snap in half !!! Now i was reading revews Srams known to have that issues .I miss my campagnolo Record 11 speed .All electric components are overrated .
The position if the front derailleur battery still interferes with the rear wheel’s tire. If you have short chainstays and a wide rear tire, the SRAM Red front derailleur rubs that battery. Bad design.
Levers look decent for hydraulic even if the levers are a copy of the awesome Campag levers from 5 years ago. Still got the stupidly shaped and butt ugly chain?
The hoods are the first thing that hits the wind. What did SRAM do to improve the aerodynamics of those beyond making them smaller like the Rival and Force hoods? Also, what did SRAM do to improve the aerodynamics of the cranks and rings? Rear derailleur? Brake calipers? Nothing. SRAM and Shimano would be easy to beat if they had a competitor. SRAM and Shimano are trapped in their own bubbles. Legacy dinosaurs.
Great review. Thanks. Looking at upgrading my 7 year old Red AXS. As I'm old and short and fat, having the ability to have a 36 at the back for the 20% ers is very appealing. Yes, I don't need the 140g less in weight. This or a 1x setup???
Sram axs is on my which list for CX/gravel/ everyday outdoor bike with rival 1shifter/force1 rd mechanical disc. On a tight budget for more gear range upgrade now so going with ratio technology shifter/ rd cage modifications. If axs go rival. Can go 2x if wanted and still have gear range at a good price.
