New SRAM Red - Know This Before You Buy 

£4600 for a groupset. FFS! I am sure it is very nice, but I think I'll pass.

It’s crazy to me that the high end groupsets cost as much as a used car!

At those prices no wonder the cycle trade is in trouble

It was always going to be expensive but we all know it’ll be heavily discounted within 12 months. Feel they missed an opportunity to go below Shimano RRP. You’ve got to be a die hard sram fan to turn down dura ace for £2000 cheaper and go with this instead. It is very pretty though

Honestly I love the voice you guys have cultivated at Cade Media. While most of the cycling channels I used to follow have turned into content farms, you guys seem to remember that bikes are, in fact, fun. Sure we like new shiny things, but you don't really need that stuff to have fun. Keep your tongue in cheek, and keep doing what you're doing!

Wtf is that price seriously 5200€ for a full group set. I mean ye it’s nice and everything but knowing I got brand new full set of red 6 months ago for 2000€(complete set with power meter) seems crazy this would cost 5200€

My boy Jimmi with the Zero Lemon jersey ❤

I have 2 bikes with shimano 105 mechanical. Never, ever had a drop chain.

I have Force 22 on four of my bikes. Was thinking about "upgrading" one bike to 12-speed, but I'll pass. I will be spending money to add weight to my bike and probably not have any significant benefits over what i currently have.

You have done a great job covering the launch. great vid!

£4600 😳...,my whole custom build cost me only just over 5k & with that I've got a full Merida Reacto 4000 carbon frame set in size 56cm which came with CW carbon 440mm handle bars & a 380mm aero carbon seat post, full 105 12 speed hydraulic disc di2 groupset which i recently upgraded to from the mechanical Ultegra 8020 version, my rims are by Prime, 50mm carbon, the Black Edition layed in with Tpu tubes all wrapped up in 28mm Continental Gp5000s black chilli compound race tires, Specialized S-Works Romin II carbon printed saddle and last but not least PD-R8000 peddles....,think maybe that this groupset is only for show off's who has more money than sense or really for the serious bike racer.....

Those levers look just the best, the ability to get your hand round them 👌

This quote has to sum up the bike industry “people just expect group sets not to drop chains, and SRAMS group sets drop chains” damn right we expect that from a 4500£ group set 😂😂 my 10yo DA 9000 never dropped chains neither does my 9200

really good video. Enjoyed that.

There is the change in front mech. The point stick to the hanger is rounded not squared like in the old one. And there is more contact surface between mech and hanger. Maybe it will help with droping the chain?

Thanks Cade Media!

yes agree GRX has the best hoods, and that says a lot with the ergonomics of the new red

The shifters look sooo sick. Definitely grabbing a pair when they’re sold individually.

nice to see a Cade Media video go back to a calmer more objective style.....backward combaibility is what works for me and as noted the upgrade path for rival/force users is the shifters/calipers. suggestions also that the new shifter design will come quickly to force level for all the 'normal' users.

Love the Van Rysel. Looked cool. At that money, I'd go Campag just because it's a bit more bling.

Great quick review. Looks a great Groupset but having recently updated my groupset. I still went with Shimano as I have never faulted it and read too many reviews on sram being slow and poor shifting. Hopefully the new Red has resolved that. Also Francis what watch do you wear and what strap?

Did you weigh the bottom bracket? That might actually tip it over the claimed weight if not

Great video. There’s only so much you can improve on. Hopefully shimano gets out a fully wireless offering soon

I like to run a mixed group set. The sram/Shimano mix works very well. Been doing it for a decade plus. They tell you not to because it sells the whole groups set to you for a high price. I put a ton of miles on my bike and have not drop a chain. You could adjust your rear derailleur to make it the best.

So, it’s about 100 grams heavier than latest Ultegra and twice as expensive than Ultegra 🧐🧐

I would love to have longer levers. My dura-ace levers are just a bit too short for me to fit my whole hand on them. Also I preferred the older 6800 levers vs the r8000, they're just a bit too small.

For that price Campagnolo is suddenly back into the market.

love the idea of high end products, but thats how many triban roadbikes? ;)

Great review guys. Can’t chain drop be avoided entirely if the front mech is set up right? I’ve got around 7k Km on my current bike without a chain drop. It’s an 11 speed 105.

They fixed/improved all the small issues with the last red and kept the price the same. Sounds good to me 😊

Can you use just the red shifters with non red brake calipers?

I have a Shimano Claris groupset, it is VERY hard to push the chain to the big ring on the front. But at least I never get a chain drop.

Looks really sweet. In 5 yrs we'll all have these specs.

I like the Kask Helmet. Is it suitable for a long and small head?

Thanks Francis , and Jimmi ........well , did it drop ? AND. that groupset cost more than 2 of my bikes .....Doctors only ? Sheeeeeshimano

Hi, exists sram red cranks - wide type (chainline 47.5 and Q factor 150)?

Should road bikes adapt UDH so they can direct mount rear derailleurs?

I have a request? Can you make an episode when you upgrade stock group? I have a gravel bike on GRX400(2x10) with limpy legs. When I just ride front 30T with cassette 11-34 is enough for moderate climbs. But last weekend I've travelled with panniers and it turns out that I have to push my bike uphill... I'm considering changing only casette on Deore 11-42, but I'm not sure if this is plug and play or should I but and extender for rear derailleur like road link/goat link.

I just wish they did a mechanical doubletap Force/Rival grouppo. Unpopular opinion, I love doubletap

Hoods are 5mm longer. Do you have to have a shorter stem to maintain standard position?

No crankset for $3000 are you fng kidding me 😂😂 What a fng joke! Im going to laugh my ass off watching all these companies crash and burn as a direct result of pure unadulterated greed

As I don't race or ride particularly fast I couldn't justify the cost, though it does look nice. Do agree with Jimmi on the GRX shifters.

Damn the quality of this video is very nice

With a one piece cassett how do you clean it properly?

Curious to know what shoes Francis was riding in the video

Send back chainrings for replacement??

I don't have any sram or campagnolo ride time or any of the mountain/gravel sets either... The idea for spending over 3 or 4 thousand USD on a thing that's just alright frightens me but I also want a proper head to head to compare is a 10 tooth good? How do they work under climbs or power shifts? Which one integrates 3rd party classified or other transmission solutions less bad?

Are those the new Fizik aeroweave shoes on Francis? I mean, they match the jersey perfectly, but more importantly, I am so jealous! Not that I need them, but damn how I'd love a pair of those in pink.

Which head unit did they bundle with it? Is it the new Karoo? I'd love to see a review on it if so.

I am guessing the chainrings & powermeter are still 1 piece so you cannot change ring sizes for a different course unless you go and buy a complete powermeter 😞 .

Dropping the chain 2x per year is actually outrageous. I've had my current bike since 2018, first 105 and now GRX Di2, and have yet to drop the chain off the front.

That bike 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Any review of the head unit? Or garmin not letting you?

In the current financial climate I am curious how many they will sell...

Visually quite disjointed to my eye, with the callipers and rear derailleur looking like they belong to a different groupset. It's mostly black with silver accents, but then that's inverted for those components. Are the lever bodies/hoods (as opposed to the levers themselves) quite similar to the Rival shape?

I have serious envy over your tool wall 8(

Jimmy Greasy Fingers,,,good cowboy name. AND the wipe board thing, scrapeheap challenge.

Please can someone explain 35/48 chainrings? If 34/50 is considered compact, dare I say for mountains residents or beginners. Does this mean the Red crankset is targeted towards those living in the mountains or people getting into cycling with deep pockets?

Flagship prices just to be almost on par with mid tier Shimano...yes please, I'll take two.

Even with all my carbon upgrades, wheels, stem, bar etc this is still move expensive than my whole bike 😆 On the upside it looks very pretty 😍

rainbow Effect !!!! lolz "oil slick"

Worth checking out GPLama's review also out today. He's been riding the groupset for a couple of months. Cutting to the chase, his view is positive.

Why do electric derailleurs have limit screws?

Looks great but I’ll personally never buy another sram groupset until they change their brake bleeding process. Makes shamans the better choice on that alone

never rode road bike. only mountainbikes. but to be impressed in 2024 with ability to brake with single finger is beyond me. and you have to pay that kind of money for that :O

A 105 groupset shifts perfectly and doesn't drop a chain, even when you neglect it, even mechanical. Even top racers would find it difficult to have a measurable gain from such a groupset. This is only for OSPW dentists

you also got your hands on a RCR und not mentiond it once :D

For me the Shimano 12speed di2 are more argonomic

the chrome accents on the crank set look like they are pointing the wrong way like you’re supposed to pedal backwards. deal breaker

13 Speed later this year!?!?!? - Came across something interesting on online retailers for the 1x aero chainring. In the description says "Compatible with 12-speed and 13-speed drivetrains"

I thought those were rebranded grx di2 levers, so it wasn't a prank....

Nice overview! I can afford it, but I don't see the value in it for me.

Hopefully touched the rotors before the chain, otherwise make sure they're cleaned 👀

The fact that the chainrings cannot be replaced by the user simply shows this thing isn't meant for mortals like you and me. A pro team? Sure, they have the mechanics and the sponsorships to make it work.

Shame no new sram rim brake groupsets will come out, nice to see shimano still offer an ultegra and dura ace 12 speed di2 rim brake version.

Shifters remind me of grx

Not wrong there, Jimmy Trade, for just the lever is £1261 & £1800 RRP. 😮

I had a SRAM force groupset. The pedal/crank interface failed and the levers were made of a unique blend of cheese. So I'd be very reluctant to part with cash for a SRAM groupset.

@5:!5 Yeah: The technology will always trickle down and the price for that (lower ranges) will always go up...

£4600 I can buy whole full built TCR PRO with ultegra di2 for cost off this group set

Do the batteries weigh more when they're fully charged?

The price of this makes no sence at all

Why do all groupset manufacturers start with 'S'? SRAM, Shimano, Suntour, Sugino, Sampagnolo?

too heavy for that price. dura ace is lighter and cheaper

Although one piece cassetes look dope, i hate to buy every 2 chains another cassette because 2 cogs are too worn out to be used with a third chain.. especially with those super expensive sram cassetes (XX1)

Sora will do😅

I've never liked the look of SRAM gruppos. And I have to say, the new design is still meh to me. Plus I hate that they use dot 5 for their brakes, and that the kit to purge your brake liquid is $150 (CAD). The only company that makes good looking groupsets is still Campagnolo. Their gruppos are also the most ergonomic of the bunch.

imho you'd have to be literal milionaire for this purchase to make sense. otherwise it's just unwise. i'm sure it's great groupset though.

No 10-44 cassette, which is disappointing. For the 1x riders, we'll have to stick to the Rival/Force pinned cassettes.

Mechanical 105 here, i never drop my chain.

I bet 45g is almost exactly what the mounting hardware for the rotors weighs.

Going to attract the attention of "Opportunistic Magpies" riding with this through DMR Congo, or affiliated regions of the 🌏

Lets hope I win the lottery then.. 😅

Fancy

sad its not a t-type groupset

Comparisons to the new drops by WheelTop, Magene and LTwoo. I'm sure SRAM have tested it to death, the Chinese offerings are still ironing out issues. But still too expensive.

At least finally only 1 FD. So you can run 46 and up to the 56. Finally like the good ol days. Last version was terrible for that and too expensive having to buy a new FD for people who run 52+

Less than £300 for my eltwoo electronic groupset 😂

Chainring attached to the power meter... WTF

CADE Media : No this before you buy. Everybody : 3000£ or more ? Oh by the way, i can't buy.