New Surface Laptops and a Day Without Facebook 

Can we have David as a regular along side you guys for every episode??

David with his one shirt again!

Working in a tech repair store the amount of elderly people that came in or called because they couldn't access Facebook was crazy.

Dude I connected so hard with David when he was talking about the phones they use in Her. The tech is so cool and aesthetic in that movie and I think about it all the time

Andrew is slightly off about what happened, it's not that Facebook receives data from small servers and they are down but Facebook stopped sending Facebooks location, packets generally go by a path and that path is established by something called BGP(border gateway protocol) so for your computer to establish a path to Facebook Facebook should shout to other nodes saying this is where i am but Facebook was not doing that so essentially no packets could reach Facebook servers as Facebook stopped declaring where to find their IPS

I purchased the Surface Studio Laptop from the Surface pro 2. As an illustrator, I use the tablet mode alot for drawing, the stage mode for watch videos and the laptop mode for other office works. They marketed for the gamers but us creative designers enjoy it best. The only drawback for me is the lack of usb, ssd slots. Purchasing a hub for the thunderbolt, in addition to purchasing a pen, adds to an extra expense but I guess Apple is no saint either since they do the same thing. Again I'm coming from a model 8 years old so maybe I just need to adjust to the times.

40:20 somewhere Dankpods is yelling "CHUNGUS" at his screen

Yo this was mad funny lol. I loved the roast session of Intels commercial at the end. Really had me laughing,especially at Davids reactions lol.

These intel ads miss the core appeal of Apple to its fans. It’s not a bunch of new options. It’s the lack of options. Clean, simple, and thought out for you. It’s a convenience product.

Don't agree with guys on 55:43. Tent mode or, Surface Pro w/out keyboard is very useful in narrow spaces. I always detach my kb from Surface to use it on kitchen table, or on small coffee tables where space is limited. I find it very useful, because I see that mode is better in certain scenarios.

So frustrating to not hear one thing mentioned about the whistle-blower. I guess it was just happenstance that fb went down the exact day she testified. Even if there is no connection, still ridiculous not to address it....

I love my Surface Duo as a companion productivity device. I picked it up on sale for about $500. As a working professional, it's great for reading through longer documents, signing and annotating documents (already had a surface pen), taking video calls. Super niche, but my most used scenario is reviewing documents in our proprietary app where I can see the system info and source document side-by-side.

Great well presented content. Keep them coming...

Often times it feels like one host will be ready to tell a story and then the other host will also have the story and go ahead and then the first person might try to alleyhoop some bit of info that they got that the other person didn’t and then it feels like tug of war with the topic instead of like fluid pass back and forth

I completely didn’t notice the Facebook outage

Fan of David too, love his takes

Intel should focus on marketing to computer manufacturers as opposed to consumers. They have to give manufacturers a reason to not do what Apple did, (develop their chipsets in-house), otherwise since Apple has set the precedent, more companies might follow. Apple really isn’t their competitor either, they’re two different businesses

when this happened, the navy was going through a huge evolution involving a lot of communication among groups. and IT WAS A HELL HOLE for those couple hours

16:33 I loved the Star Trek reference

The best comment I came across in the Intel commercial. me: Mom, can we get Craig Federighi? mom: No, we have Craig Federighi at home Craig Federighi at home: Every PC we showed under this Intel HQ is powered by Intel.. -- youtube comment.

Love the thumbnail expressions of each video too xD

love all the positivity thanks guys

Marques, having a touch screen is LEGIT. Sometimes dragging the cursor from one side of the screen to other for a little thing is a drag. It's much faster to touch it.

David Entry 🔥

I'm one of those few people who would have a duo and another phone because I don't consider the duo a phone 🤷🏾‍♂️ but I agree, I'm sure I'm in that small group of people who care about productivity first. If the first duo actually had a good software experience, then that'd be it as the real companion device

Always worth staying up for

I have SP4 and I bought it because of its portability. It's amazing how I can work just by pulling out a tablet-looking device with the power of a computer. The just press a button and put it back in a bag not to mention that its sooo light compared to a laptop.

SLS (Surface Laptop Studio): In thinking about the SLS compared to my SP, it is more convenient by folding the screen down over the keyboard to create a tablet only, as opposed to how the SP would do it. Currenlty, I disconnect the keyboard, flip and reconnect it and fold it behind. I wish MS could've made SLS thinner, especially if I use it as a tablet AND I'm standing holding it. Goal for the next version.

I think you guys are really missing the point of having a surface for anyone especially students who need a tablet for note taking and need a laptop for general work like programming, emails etc the surface pro 8 replaces a high end tablet and laptop. Instead of buying a Samsung galaxy tab s7 and a similarly priced windows laptop or getting a iPad pro ( or air) with a MacBook air you get one device to carry, less money to spend and aren't really compromising on the features you need out of either, particularly on the tablet side. I have friends what have both devices and they usually don't carry both around because it's too much, they spent a lot more than me and they barely use their tablet for anything that you couldn't do on windows especially with android apps coming to windows now (so what I'm referring to here is a few people play mobile games on their tablets). For students they need to take handwritten notes and that is the main feature they need from a tablet that they can't get anywhere else.

So resonated with this episode. Had a Mac lap top and desk top. They slowed a halt, went for surface book pro and really liked it. Would have bought another as the photo file sizes got bigger, but not enough ports and no SD card slot in the new models. So went for the zen book with the 2 screens. Miss the sd card slot, and the light weight of the surface in comparison. You guys need to design and bring out a range of laptops.. ❤

SD slot: I actually don't mind using a dual USB-A/C adapter for my SD card, because it allows me to grab photos from multiple phones and transferring them to my Tab for editing. Quicker than networked and I don't have to pull the SDs out of my phone, copy them, then put them back.

I love that intro

Interesting! Nice video ✌️

Can't come here straight from lew later and not notice the difference in audio quality.

why we always settle down with less ports with Mac and iPhone, demand more ports from Windows AFAIK, Mac doesn't have a card slot and I heard MKBHD saying we need Card Slot...Seriously :)

The Intel commercial just makes Apple consumers look like uneducated buyers. Not sure how that is suppose to win over Apple enthusiasts.

This is such a US centric view. fb is THE site for people in other countries. so if fb goes down then people's primary way of communication goes down. i don't see other sites being the same

16:09 Are you sure it was Tik-Tok you were on there, Andrew? 😂

I've literally heard apple mains say all those things. LITERALLY

I wish I could zoom in on RU-vid vids bc it’s kinda hard to see the commercial part behind them

SHOUTOUT TO THE DISCORD

Intel even put the 9:41 as the time in the corner

The intel ad is cringe but the point being made is about options. not all intel laptops have upgradable ram but you can choose the one that has it, same with touch screen, if you want it you can buy it. you can buy an intel device the way you want it, the way you like it because Intel has options.

I use a 15" surface book 2. Tablet is good for airplanes but not so much better than ipad. For me, I love it as a touch screen with the screen flipped around using an external keyboard/mouse and a larger second screen.

Windows on ARM virtualised on Apple M1 flies!

imagine AMD targeted ads intel: you like AMD? person: yes intel: but can you get a mac with AMD???? Oopss

I feel like anyone who doesn't have a specific use case for surface products either overthinks them or disregard's their usefulness. The Duo is literally a digital pocket notebook that can make phone calls and take decent pictures. The Surface pro has always been the Jack of all trades device but now you can plug a RTX 3090 into it if want or just use it to watch movies in bed without buying any accessories if your on a budget (people always seem to discount how convenient a build-in kickstand is). The Laptop Studio , its in the name its a portable laptop version of the surface studio, and they keep showing Xbox controllers because it has a built-in Xbox wireless receiver to lower latency.

Markus has way better chemistry with David. I like watching and listening to them go back and forth waaaaaaaaaay more. It doesn’t feel awkward and disjointed

Dope, it's fire! But it ain't fair they're making new laptops that run the Windows 11 OS and leave the old ones that most people have.

I wish they expanded on the effect, on what was happening on Twitter much more than memes and quest to find what was happening. I saw many making fun of the engineers (their quality, their merit of working at FB, the interview standard at FB etc), people need to go through multiples rounds of interview, it's a grueling process. Those who are selected are one of the finest in the industry. So yeah, maybe make fun of what happened but not make fun of the people who have worked hard to work at FB.

Most people don't care about what's inside a laptop well, except for creative designers, graphic designers, programmers, DJ's and so on...others, in general, just buy as they wish.

A day without facebook should be a groundhog day

This is the problem with reviewers. They are so much in their bubble that they dont see any work other than their need. The pulling forward of surface laptop studio is way better than 2-1 for note taking and sketching.

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Lol that One tree hill song joke went over everybody's head

Love the podcast and you guys. Please talk about the Lucid Air in the podcast and their latest news and their anonymous range 520 miles EPA certified in single charge and how they will perform compared to the other EV cars.

43:49 David worked for Intel?

I would by a Ipad air and mac air for that money (studio $1600).

Most Apple users don't really care about computers because they are focus on what they can do with theirs. It's a good thing to be a power user and yet not to be a computer expert. They just buy the Mac they can afford. I am not sure this is posible on the windows side, you are going have to do your research en cpus, memories, features etc. You really need to know what you are buying or else you will end up missing something

Woah 🙂

nice

If Microsoft put a display on the outside, the surface duo would be a more practical device.

58:46 - i'll defend intel here and say that you should have a look at some of the prototypes intel comes up with in order to inspire their OEMs to adopt certain form factors. intel is surprisingly more than just a chip company, and i know it's hard to say they don't innovate but they do a fair ton of it.

For a sec, i thought the glasses 🕶️ in the thumbnail was Casey neistat n came to the podcast.

Microsoft X-book… it has a nice ring

Every laptop I owned I could change ram it's not covient but it's doable

Apple just gave me iCloud+ just now… why… why…

Making podcast/ review is easy making silicon is hard

Hey haircut!

Is David actually there? The lighting on him and edges seem off.

Her King

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To the question of what is Intel trying achieve here, I would say they are trying to leverage their brand recognition as much as possible!! I am a mid 90s born from India. For almost all of my life, most laptops and PCs that available in Indian market was powered by Intel. By the time PCs and laptops sells took off here for the avg middle class Intel had left AMD well behind in the competition.

Marques said "people don't talk like that" as if he didn't know who iJustine was.

If Facebook had any plan to develop self-driving cars or buy out a start-up, that plan's probably dead in the water...

I don't understand why there are these complaints about the cost of these devices. They are comparable in there particular spaces.

There are lot of Mamas there on Facebook

I can't with these Intel ads. It seems to me that they have no decency class or dignity left. Especially since Apple is being dead silent about all this.

Can we have Casey on the show??

This intel ad is meant to get less people buying macbooks, which will naturally boost Intel sales. That's all. And honestly, as cringy and fake as some of it was, there was a lot of truth in it. Apple is stiffling innovation by refusing to have touchscreen on macs and by refusing to innovate in their design. Intel is right to point out the benefits of windows laptops which naturally boosts their sales

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I have a question. Will Tesla cars work if their data centers go down?

HATE APPLE! YET I HAVE TO USE ONE!!!

Is it just me or does that commercial seems like more of a dig at Apple fans than Apple itself?

All due respect what about the whistleblower and the information she made public about Facebooks tactics

I don’t use Facebook or Instagram at all so this didn’t affect me lol

Most ads attacking Apple are cringey. That’s not to say that to criticize Apple is bad or undeserved, but every company just goes about it so stupidly in a way that just reeks of desperation and insecurity.

Didn’t even realize Facebook and Instagram were down. Huh. #TeamReddit

Intel do these ads for market capitalism

funny, the terrible mac laptops have intel Silicon and the good mac laptops have Apple Silicon.

Yo

I love these cute nerds

It's quite clear that Apple has trained their laptop/desktop customers well to not think out of the box. They are good at streamlining what they offer but not very good at innovation. I don't mind it but it grates me how taboo it seems to some Apple costumers it is to state this. I'm happy you like your purchase but I'm mindful about the fact that what you get is NOT the best and pretending that it is is tiresome.

SHEEEEE

Multitasking on fold 3 still sucks. It's big for one app and small for even two apps. Who made these people tech reviewers 🤦

Oh no, facebook lost money 😢

im a telegram user.. made so many people download it that it cant count them with my fingers and toes

a dollar for every time the word 'like' is used. 🙂

I think the words "cringe & desperate" towards Intel's ad is a bit of an exaggeration. Are they trying to associate the name Intel with the benefits of their manufacturers? Yes. There's a possibility that they aren't, currently, aiming at AMD because the narrative may still be Apple vs PC and aiming at AMD doesn't instill any confidence in a new or returning PC user. As a PC user, but openly use both an iPhone, iPad, Samsung Note, and HP Elite, I saw the ad as taking control of the narrative around PCs as a whole. We've all had the conversation about Apple adding features to the iPhone that many Androids has had for years and somehow it appears as a new phenomenon to iPhone users when Apple does it. As tech enthusiasts we have more insider knowledge and let it pass, but in my opinion, the average iPhone/Mac user has no idea these features already exists and if they were given the choice to choose blindly without logos and merely on their "wants", they'd probably not choose an Apple device. Could the ad have been executed better to convey that? Yes. But it was far from "cringe & desperate". If they convert the average Mac user to PC, it's a win for them because arguably the hardest fight is over and their introduction to/back to PC would be an Intel device even if they switch to an AMD device at some point or at all.

Until Microsoft decides to buy either Intel or AMD