I did something like this in my shop. I realized only after all the building that the 2x4 took up a lot of shelf space. So I cut them down to 2x2 and gained that extra space. I kept the 2x4 where I needed the extra strength (top shelf that would hold heavy loads), but most shelves didn't really need that level of support. Hope this helps for someone. Great shelf.
I love the French Cleat concept on the side of your storage unit. The thought never crossed my mind, but now I have a new project for next weekend. I’m going to do the same thing to my existing storage units. 👍🏽
I hate when I'm taking apart some boards held with ~3 carpenter screws then glued in-between, its like what the heck is this overkill garbage!? I'm glad people are learning about joints again.
Since glue from 20 years ago has failed, and anything I do I expect to last longer then 20 years, I rarely ever use glue. Because ceiling tiles were falling once, because the glue failed, and the staples were not holding anymore either.
you aren’t understanding what is going on, it’s not overkill the glue is the real fastener - the screws are there to act as clamps for the glue to the glue up is successful
@@mxmartinelli1 uh no, the screws are the main holding power. Glue alone is useless if all you're doing is a butt joint. If he did a mitre joint you might have an argument.
@@clayrush1413respectfully, i disagree. hundreds of videos have disproven this claim over the last few years you may be right in the short term, the mechanical fasteners would be stronger but while glue up on a butt joint may be relatively weaker than edge grain to edge grain, it’s certainly stronger than mechanical fasteners in end grain over time mechanical fasteners weaken rapidly due to expansion and contraction of the wood, this is especially true with screwing into end grain as the majority of the movement is radial from the growth of the tree
It's an old myth. A good butt joint is surprisingly strong. You just usually have a long board off the end grain with lots of leverage, making it easy to fail. The butt joint is like 80% the strength of a miter
I would avoid using wood glue when screwing the frame together. The shelf is stable with anything you would ever stack on it. More importantly if your like 95% of shop dwellers we always change our minds and move heights based on tool or storage container size. Cheers and nice looking build. Love the cleat walls.
@@heckingbamboozled8097 it won't last any longer than a good design that used smaller timbers and less wood overall. Only way it would last longer is if he is putting stuff that was beyond the leaner designs weight capability. This is over built because there really is no way he is putting enough on those small shelves to get anywhere near their load limit.
I have always LOVED FRENCH CLEATS! This is a brilliant use for them! I will definitely be implementing this throughout the garage and office. Might even be handy outside near sprinkler system or watering hoses.
But the shelves are only supported by the shear strength of 12 screws. Works for most things but a waste of a ton of wood which isn't the limiting factor for strength
That's 20" of space used to support shelves that hold stuff that could have been supported with ¾" particle board (4½" total) you could have saved enough space for one more Shelf
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Particle board falls apart if it gets wet. So, if you put a gas chain saw on it, particle board would fall apart. And the sheer strength comes from 2x4's.
@normbograham shear strength isn't a generic term for overall strength. The 2x4s don't do much for the shear strength. Most sheet goods will come apart in water. The stuff that won't is too costly to be making shelves out of. A coat of paint will provide a lot of protection to partical board. I'd rather fix the float in thr chainsaw than give up 20 inches of space just in case it leaks. ..and I end up with 3 more leaky chainsaws (for the other shelves). I've been using partical board bordered in finger jointed 1x2 with ¾" dado plowed into it to receive the ¾" partical board, starting about 7/32" away from top edge which is where I lay in some ¼" Masonite. That's what I use for GP work bench surface. It's strong enough for what I do to it, which is a lot more than most "DIYers." The idea was to replace the Masonite when it wears out. It's been in use for over 20 years and still not worn out..
@TheBurruss5 I'm not sure which shelve you're referring to, i make lots of shelves out of lots of different materials, but a good design would be to use particle board shelving (better would be to rip down a bunch of 1⅛" T&G plywood), screw in a bunch of one by two cleats into the wall at Shelf elevations. Use ⅜" All Thread Rod contained in ½"ø conduit (or ¾"ø or 1"ø). Drill holes through the plywood at intervals for support. Basically, the author and Rod will be used to support the shelves in the front in conjunction with the conduit. Start drilling holes in the wood with a forstner bit the same diameter as a conduit only go about an eighth inch or a quarter inch deep. It's just to keep the conduit centered. So basically it's going to be, shelf, conduit, shelf conduit, Shelf, and so on, up with ATR holding everything together. You don't have to use conduit but it looks cooler . It also looks cooler if you use splines in grooves plowed through the back edge of the shelf. It's a way cleaner look. I've also made shelves and work bench tops from old doors. The cheap hollow ones can be ripped then supported with 1x2 (ripped to fit void in door)
Nice job but over kill on the timber size. Everyone has their own design when it comes to their own shop. I like the quick release shelf boxes handy as…
I had this type of shelving around the whole perimeter of my 2.5 car garage, in a previous home. The storage was so useful. But the price of 2x4's and plywood was probably a quarter of what it is now.
Better off right now buying those hard good plastic 5 tier shelves the wide black ones. Used those to build pantry storage in basement. Gonna stockpile reserves all summer so winter we hibernate
If thats a channel drain running along the base of your wall, depending on how much you’re putting on the shelves it’s not a good idea to put the back legs of your shelving on it. It’s not designed to be load bearing and you could mess up the drain system if you crush it.
Nice. I am just beginning my garage project and converting it to a shop. All these ideas are so inspiring! The one problem I am having is the vacuum system for dust control. I’m trying to figure out a way to make it convenient to switch from one Toole to another while leaving the vacuum itself in one place..
Ive seen something with a rail habging by what looked like wire hangers bent apart to be straight from the ceiling to the hanging track that had what was like shower curtain hooks that held the extended vac hose to be puleld theough out the soaces over the tools. You can buy the extented hoses throught home depot or even a swimming pool store. I will try and find the video im refering to.
Cyanoacrylate might interfere with the wood glue, whether chemically or physically. It may not be a problem for the small shelves you're building, due to low potential load, but it may cause issues on larger pieces that rely more on the glue joint.
Great content and just what I needed since I'm about to try to build something. Anything. Lol since I've never worked with wood before I'm nervous BUT I've always wanted to so its time to try. 🙌🤘🏼🎊🎉🤞🏼
I built my storage system to have 6 uniquely sized spaces. My usual and unpublished creative project was with the future hope of one day subsiding my ever growing insatiable needs of *“More Cowbell”*
I did the exact same thing you gotta put the wheels on it so you can move it around because if it’s very heavy luggage, it’s very difficult to move around
I crack up at a negative comment that criticizes other negative comments! What do you think telling him his project is "overbuilt", a compliment? The lack of self-awareness is staggering today. People have no idea what they're doing anymore.
Unique isn't necessarily original, just different from the majority. ie. It would be unique for someone to wear a beret casually (in North America, at least), even if they obviously didn't invent the beret. (disregard me if you were just emphasizing how unique it is rather than arguing against it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
