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Hey friends, today I'm checking out the new Tom Ford Noir Extreme Parfum. This one is pretty expensive, so is it worth it? Thanks for watching!
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@tally1604
@tally1604 2 года назад
If you're looking for a stronger edp, sadly the parfum ain't it. It barely lasts and projects, no noticeable improvement in that department on the edp. For the prices they charge, they should be ashamed of themselves.
@foreverkingbiko
@foreverkingbiko 2 года назад
Must just be your skin. The parfum is massive and it lasted til the next day until I showered
@ramboram03
@ramboram03 2 года назад
@@foreverkingbiko Same here I wore it 14 hours its still on my skin after getting up
@skmillennialliving
@skmillennialliving 2 года назад
I get little projection but the longevity is definitely there for me.
@BestBrandsPerfume
@BestBrandsPerfume Год назад
@@foreverkingbiko I agree Talgat you bought a fake.
@darktrhone63
@darktrhone63 Год назад
I just received my travel-sized sprayer from FragranceNet’s Purple Luxe subscription. I’m not hired by them, but this holiday season they’re taking $10 off, so I got this 8ML for $16!!! It smells great, if you’re already a fan of the EDT. That cardamom in the intro is fantastic! I still wouldn’t purchase a full bottle due to its hefty price tag, So a sample for under $20 will suffice 😉
@Phla58
@Phla58 2 года назад
I was told this is very similar to PDM Carlisle, can you do a comparison?
@zombiemagic3144
@zombiemagic3144 Год назад
Just got my free sample,wow love it
@The_Infidel_of_Fragrance
@The_Infidel_of_Fragrance 2 года назад
Are you going to review the new Armani code Parfum???
@Potterdood
@Potterdood Месяц назад
I blind bought the 3.3oz a few months ago and when I first sprayed it I instatly regretted it, but after a few min I was in love, this scent is so unique and what I like most about it is that not once have I smelled it out in the wild. Tonight I took my wife on a date and wore it. It is the only TF I own, but I am so glad I took the dive and got a bottle. Was just thinking I have never watched a review on it so was curious how others like it, and here I am.
@angelobianco73
@angelobianco73 2 года назад
What a cheap boxing for that price
@stevenveganightowl12
@stevenveganightowl12 2 года назад
I hear you Angelo, TF is charging a hefty price, the presentation should be better.
@jordanwebster1728
@jordanwebster1728 2 года назад
I think TF has some great scents but are ridiculously overpriced.
@flightgravity7483
@flightgravity7483 2 года назад
All you’re paying for is the Tom Ford name, and that goes for most any other brand. Packaging rarely factors into the price.
@oledgaming4997
@oledgaming4997 2 года назад
F the box
@JSn00py
@JSn00py 2 года назад
Lol who cares about the box?
@Szbazs
@Szbazs 2 года назад
Grat review! Thanks, can u make a video for JPG Scandal Pour Homme Le Parfum? That would be awsome.
@HeavenlyDemon592
@HeavenlyDemon592 2 года назад
Ash it's at Sephora for $160....$205
@schecterdiamond177
@schecterdiamond177 2 года назад
This stuff is great. I was so happy that they gave it the same treatment as they did Black Orchid Parfum. What I mean by that is that they did it justice. They made it deeper, a touch darker and built upon what was already there without losing itself. Performance is great across the board and I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out. Those who dislike it I don’t think are giving it a chance and just may not be into the more complex fragrances. If you don’t like things that are the least bit challenging then perhaps it’s not for you. I wouldn’t consider it challenging at all but I can see how it may appear that way to others. Ashton as always, great video.
@matthewfallabel3486
@matthewfallabel3486 Год назад
Personally I don’t like the new parfum for Black Orchid, it doesn’t jump off my skin as much as the original and it smells too dense
@ToTheWind
@ToTheWind 2 года назад
$4 per ml. That's laughable. Better to go with Xerjoff.
@creepincarl
@creepincarl 2 года назад
Inflation seems to be affecting the prices of designer fragrances as well. Here's my question though... If you already have the Tom Ford Noir Extreme EDP do you need this one?
@espartan3806
@espartan3806 2 года назад
I OWN NOIR TX EDP... BUT PRICE ITS HIGH & PERFORNANCE WEAK... THE ONLY 2 WORTHY OF D PRICE ITS LAYTON & INTERLUDE B IRIS🙄
@valzalel5203
@valzalel5203 2 года назад
nah they raise the prices 100s of dollars because they can, and people will still buy it. Fragrances are not a designer's bread and butter. If it sells or doesn't sell doesn't matter much because "tom ford" doesn't really care anyways. Inflation sounds like a great excuse right now...
@creepincarl
@creepincarl 2 года назад
@@valzalel5203 I think you just broke down inflation in a nutshell
@skmillennialliving
@skmillennialliving 2 года назад
The difference is more vanilla and some Smokey leather. At the price I would say you don’t need it if you have the EDP. Try it at an Ulta or Sephora. Sephora has an exclusive discount for some reason also.
@creepincarl
@creepincarl 2 года назад
@@skmillennialliving Yeah man, I agree 100%. I honestly get money grab vibes from this release. I may give it a whirl though.
@gaijin138
@gaijin138 2 года назад
Old Noir Extreme is a boss and one of my signatures
@duck2587
@duck2587 2 года назад
This was a money grab by TF. The original extreme EDP is better all around. The price is a slap in the face as well.
@97I30T
@97I30T 2 года назад
I like the idea of this not being as sweet as the original Noir Extreme. I own Noir Extreme, and while I do love it, the sweetness of the fragrance gets annoying after a couple of hours.
@SNavarroA5
@SNavarroA5 Год назад
Hello fellow K-State friend!
@WhoCares69
@WhoCares69 Год назад
Packaging on Tom Ford fragrances is pathetic! For what you pay it’s pretty poor really. Clone brands have far better packaging, it’s comical!
@dknights6414
@dknights6414 2 года назад
Do a Kilian Black Phantom review!!! I am curious your thoughts since I think it is a scent you would enjoy!
@foreverkingbiko
@foreverkingbiko 2 года назад
I blind bought it and regretted it. It’s last for a long time I’m just not a fan of the dna. If the notes are something you like it will last all day
@karolisrum6573
@karolisrum6573 2 года назад
@@foreverkingbiko It smells like some candy with berries, I like Dark Lord way better.
@daveb6969
@daveb6969 2 года назад
I LOVED the original Tom Ford Noir (now discontinued) was extremely disappointed in the Noir Extreme... just blind bought the Noir Extreme Parfum and have my fingers crossed hoping for the best!!
@JSn00py
@JSn00py 2 года назад
Hopefully you’re mentally prepared for another disappointment.
@android-ud2nf
@android-ud2nf 2 года назад
Did you like it
@hello-m7f
@hello-m7f Год назад
Do you mean Noir EDT?
@philjones6054
@philjones6054 Год назад
I just bought a bottle of TF Noir EDP this very morning, January 2023. The shop had a dozen bottles, and they didn't seem to think it has been discontinued.
@reneemattier5883
@reneemattier5883 Год назад
How did you like it?
@Pharnando
@Pharnando 2 года назад
Tiny ?! 🥺 that’s an average sized bottle that probably has an amazing personality 😤
@D-Paramountcy
@D-Paramountcy 2 года назад
Wish you did more Tom Ford reviews
@richardspurgeon8954
@richardspurgeon8954 2 года назад
I smelled it on the janitor at planet fitness and it was pleasant ,def not a common scent,I asked him what was he wearing he said The new T F Noir and it was gifted to him.
@zenluvsfun
@zenluvsfun 2 года назад
Do you think Tom Ford would die if he knew a janitor was rocking his brand? And then roll over in his grave? No, he’s probably laughing all the way to the bank 🏦
@humbleprogress1226
@humbleprogress1226 Год назад
dang the janitor was wearing a $200 bottle? lol. Jeez.
@fredbagley2097
@fredbagley2097 Месяц назад
Extreme is so much better, do not waste your money on Parfum
@painterrl8109
@painterrl8109 10 дней назад
It’s the extreme parfum goofy
@FallenKiid
@FallenKiid 2 года назад
You never reviewed ombré leather parfum.
@RollerSkatinActor
@RollerSkatinActor 8 месяцев назад
Only Millennials could say a sent would be divisive 😅 Just got the Tom Ford Noir Extreme 3.4 last night from the Military Exchange for $168. Had a $60 gift card so it is normally priced at $234 no tax.
@MansaMusa-v5q
@MansaMusa-v5q 5 месяцев назад
I smelled the EDP version and I swear I bought some oil in the middle that smelled the same but way cheaper
@Dsferradaz
@Dsferradaz 2 года назад
I tried this one today, positive aspect: smells awesome to me and my wife loves as well. Negative aspect: longevity is very weak for a parfum concentration at least in my skin and for the price..
@liamneslind5708
@liamneslind5708 2 года назад
Designer parfum isnt parfum lol. They can put 15% and still calll it a parfum. Savauge elixir is an exception to this
@_-MiamiVice-_
@_-MiamiVice-_ 2 года назад
@@liamneslind5708 Elixir is a beast. I'm on my 5th bottle, buy them all at great discount, simply unbeatable for the price, and non stop compliments you get with it.
@WillianVSena
@WillianVSena 2 года назад
Poor presentation for the price. TF has some to learn with eastern designers
@scottloy89
@scottloy89 2 года назад
I agree 100 % on the opening being a battle ground to see what pushes and settles. At one point I got a nyquil scent out of it. After it dried down though, it blended well and that DNA started to pop yet leaving a hint of leather and creaminess. It is definitely oiler than the edp but more balanced. Longevity and projection lack some. The edp is sweeter I feel and gets noticed and projects, but like I said this sits closer and is well balanced. It will pull questions by people around you. They'll recognize it partially but be curious enough to ask. Price point blows though and put a dent in my wallet for the 50ml.
@alextanguay5886
@alextanguay5886 2 года назад
Inflation my man..everything has gone up 🤑
@mrbutchie28
@mrbutchie28 2 года назад
Bleu De Chanel you're on the clock ⏰
@Leehk999
@Leehk999 2 года назад
The mini bottel is cute
@CinHotlanta
@CinHotlanta 2 года назад
I wonder if since cancelling TF for men Extreme, they opted to start adding the on-hand stock of the truffle note to TFNE to make this flanker a smokier, richer version of TFNE.
@DrRDW
@DrRDW 2 года назад
I'm not sure why we're still classifying Tom Ford as a "designer" fragrance. Yes, he's a designer, but the fragrances are certainly niche products. Awesome review as always! I love Tom Ford Noir Extreme. Can't wait to try this one.
@DrRDW
@DrRDW 2 года назад
@@petarj.9620 absolutely. However, I think Tom Ford fragrances pushe that barrier like Jo Malone, which was once considered a top niche house.
@willbuesseler8739
@willbuesseler8739 2 года назад
100% Designer
@SAIKOOffiziell
@SAIKOOffiziell 2 года назад
@@DrRDW Jo Malone has the worst performance i‘ve seen so far. Got the Oud&Bergamont, smells amazing but only for like 20 min. Max! I always took the bottle with me and refreshed every 30 min. 100ml lasted not even a month
@NicolasWilson1986
@NicolasWilson1986 Год назад
It's kind of both for me. I understand due to it being a designer house, therefore they don't have the niche tag as they aren't a fragrance dedicated company. I would say the scents I own are 100% up there with the niche houses. Then again I only own TF Ombre Leather, Tuscan Leather, Noir Extreme, and Oud Wood. I will be going to Sephora today to see if I love this one, if so will have to get the 100ml.
@andreraffla5555
@andreraffla5555 10 месяцев назад
I'd argue that the signature line should be viewed as a designer while the private blend line as a niche .... This one is signature line hence the shock at the price. I don't think anyone evaluates tobacco vanille or oud wood as expensive but rather as regular niche price.
@carlito7863
@carlito7863 Год назад
Got a 100ml for 147€ I am very happy
@Q_N-
@Q_N- 2 года назад
TF is a house that’s quite divisive most of the time. Then again, I’ve always loved their unique styles I’m just disappointed they got rid of the Private line bottles
@jingledubz3989
@jingledubz3989 2 года назад
Great video Ash! That’s quite the expensive fragrance, with seemingly lackluster presentation too. Sheesh. 🤘
@ionutalupei9505
@ionutalupei9505 2 года назад
How about new Armani code parfum?
@14SpraysMinimum
@14SpraysMinimum 2 года назад
Nice, gotta get my hands on this and do 14 sprays minimum of it, I keep seeing people sell it, I'm assuming it disappointed alot of people
@teachzilla1961
@teachzilla1961 2 года назад
Bro, honestly I may take mine back. The performance is really, really bad. This would only be a date night/intimate encounter fragrance for me.
@14SpraysMinimum
@14SpraysMinimum 2 года назад
@@teachzilla1961 not bad then, my intimate encounters only last 2 minutes
@wheretfismutz
@wheretfismutz Год назад
@@14SpraysMinimum 🤣
@ericdavis402
@ericdavis402 Год назад
Original or Parfum?
@14SpraysMinimum
@14SpraysMinimum Год назад
@Eric Davis I tried original, I'm looking to try parfum
@The_Fuzz1
@The_Fuzz1 2 года назад
The Parfum is definitely better. Less floral and a bit heftier.
@paigeofstylez
@paigeofstylez 2 года назад
HOW IN THE F@#k DID YOU GET LUCKYSCENT TO FINALLY GIVE A DISCOUNT?????? 🤯🤯🤯😵‍💫
@reneemattier5883
@reneemattier5883 Год назад
Please tell me too.
@Handstyles
@Handstyles Год назад
I just tested this for the irst time and like it much more than the EDP which is too sweet for me. This one balances things out very nicely with the bottom notes, especially the leather and the Guaiacwood. A bifg winner in my opinion but too expensive at the moment. I guess Beau de jour Parfum is next?
@Visqo1
@Visqo1 2 года назад
I prefer the OG. It is sweeter and in the opening more pleasant. I'm not too happy with the longevity and projection of the new one for the price and concentration.
@TheJofrica
@TheJofrica Год назад
What do you think of the longevity and projection of the OG?
@derrickarmour
@derrickarmour Год назад
Want to like the OG better but smells really sour on my skin vs Parfum
@bunsenn5064
@bunsenn5064 Месяц назад
I have a special appreciation for fragrances that stray from the people-pleaser formula. That’s why I love Noir Extreme Parfum, and as far as price is concerned I’ve found it at discounters brand new for $100 for a 50ml.
@jimmyrecard4390
@jimmyrecard4390 2 года назад
Tom Ford Ombré. End of game!
@user-dh7ps8zw3h
@user-dh7ps8zw3h 7 месяцев назад
Am I the only one who thinks Tom Ford Noir Extreme Perfume smells like Viktor&Rolf Spicebomb Extreme EDP?
@Cham_53
@Cham_53 2 года назад
Literally just came from Nordstrom w/ a spray on my arm enjoying it!
@eugenegutierrez5106
@eugenegutierrez5106 2 года назад
This price aren’t bad compared to ROJA Dove line. ROJA cologne start outs $315. Parfum version. $485. Tom ford price aren’t bad for luxury and long lasting parfum.
@mr.gentlemanguy4422
@mr.gentlemanguy4422 Год назад
Luckily in a real duty free (not for civilians) I pay for 100ml 75 € so you can see the difference.
@milulessa5923
@milulessa5923 2 года назад
Bro, you gotta get a haircut ASAP! Lol But you're my favorite fragrance RU-vidr, so I'll cut you some slack.
@chadlynch6992
@chadlynch6992 Год назад
I.M.O. I have T.F. Nior. ,Dior Homme Intense same thing less money Dior better Performance.
@cesaralmanza7848
@cesaralmanza7848 9 месяцев назад
I'm looking for something similar to Tom Ford Noir. Not a dupe or a clone but other options that have a similar vibe.
@dnewton1982
@dnewton1982 2 года назад
I got 100ml of this in the UK at duty free with a discount I paid £105. Really love the scent but can we talk about how garbage the atomiser is? 😅
@paco2006
@paco2006 2 года назад
It smells like purfum de Marley Oajan if anyone has that one they know exactly what I'm talking about
@adrians5875
@adrians5875 5 месяцев назад
Great smell, batch from 2024 lasts 30 minutes though
@gigatronicdeth
@gigatronicdeth 2 года назад
Only a poor person would say this is garbage.
@GrowingDownUnder
@GrowingDownUnder 2 года назад
I really hope this doesn't just smell like a knockoff copy of spicebomb extreme or man in black
@mindsetmotivation9124
@mindsetmotivation9124 2 года назад
Ever concerned that all your fragrances in the background will expire?
@matthewneufer1758
@matthewneufer1758 2 года назад
where'd you get a bottle of Black Orchid that size from man I would pay a million dollars for it dude Luke totally
@SMELLOFTRUTH
@SMELLOFTRUTH 2 года назад
You’re a legend Ash! Was looking forward to this
@NooStarWhere
@NooStarWhere 2 года назад
Hey 👋 could you please make a video review on Bath and Body Works latest men's colognes: Coffee and Whiskey + Leather and Brandy? My beginner nose knows they smell familiar to the expensive colognes, but I can't figure what they're. Thank you in advance!
@ajvaniste
@ajvaniste 2 года назад
Can we get the answer on the most important question, pleas Ash, what your wife thinks about it?
@skmillennialliving
@skmillennialliving 2 года назад
Sephora has the 100ml for 205 and 50ml for 160
@jdmb03
@jdmb03 2 года назад
Sold out as of 8/11.
@chicagoturntablism
@chicagoturntablism Год назад
Just tried this today and I hate smoky scents. There’s something just so alluring about this one. I can’t stop smelling it. I gotta get a bottle. It’s mysterious a bit.
@ryanramirez329
@ryanramirez329 2 года назад
Better than people are saying and better than the OG!! Let em' hate!!
@Harrock
@Harrock 2 года назад
I just bought the original Noir 100ml for 99€ xD
@Adaeam123
@Adaeam123 5 месяцев назад
Jesus loves you❤
@alncdr
@alncdr Год назад
In my local perfumery 100ml of Parfum costs 140€ and now they have -20% discount so now I have a big problem which to choose cuz EDP costs only 8€ less and I really want to buy one of those
@rajuncajun2818
@rajuncajun2818 2 года назад
jomashop sold me a broken watch. Stay away from them
@hedisgurra286
@hedisgurra286 Год назад
I really like it. It kinda reminds me of Spicebomb extreme
@bigfella9745
@bigfella9745 Год назад
This is super fire. Smells like chocolate spice something. Black orchid black bottle smells great also
@00lh02
@00lh02 Год назад
It's 133 squids for 100ml here.
@belairscents
@belairscents 2 года назад
It's the world of flankers!🤔
@tejanissimo
@tejanissimo 2 года назад
It's not the size that counts but the power of the juice, Ash
@RobertLaTuso
@RobertLaTuso Год назад
How would you compare “Noir Extreme Parfum” with Nishane “Ani”?
@deddyhaw1261
@deddyhaw1261 Год назад
Hey, i am now between tom ford noir extreme or nishane ani
@a_2010x
@a_2010x 2 года назад
Ralph Lauren. Like a girl named Lauren.
@jodee8831
@jodee8831 2 года назад
New fragrances are like new cars... I let the price settle for a year and let other people work out the kinks 😉... that said I wasn't blown away by TF Noir Extreme... it was just nice to me
@aisthefisherman
@aisthefisherman 2 года назад
Unless you really like it and want the first batches before any reformulation happens. Givenchy - Gentleman Reserve Privee is soooo worth it. Best release so far. Wait on a 15% off sale during holidays.
@jodee8831
@jodee8831 2 года назад
@@aisthefisherman I do want Gentleman Reserve Privée... but I don't foresee a reformulation just yet
@BLVCKxvSCVLE
@BLVCKxvSCVLE 2 года назад
@@aisthefisherman that one smelled like a wet dog for me
@JSn00py
@JSn00py 2 года назад
@@jodee8831 where’d you get your crystal ball? I could use one too.
@eugenegutierrez5106
@eugenegutierrez5106 2 года назад
Thanks for the information. I know there’s a lot of positive and negative opinions out there. To be honest Tom ford parfum fragrances aren’t that bad when it comes to prices. There’s a lot of niche fragrances out there that cost More than Tom ford. I liked Tom ford due to longevity and oil concentrations are bit higher and price point aren’t really super high.
@iFrankie.
@iFrankie. 2 года назад
I wonder if they have dimmed down the og one since this one dropped
@suriyaj
@suriyaj 2 года назад
Price is getting close to what their prive line used to be.
@jasonbryant8717
@jasonbryant8717 2 года назад
If a guy had to buy one and ONLY one Tom Ford, what would it be?
@ricd807
@ricd807 2 года назад
Oud wood
@davidmontes6652
@davidmontes6652 4 месяца назад
I liked it better than og
@jonparker1712
@jonparker1712 2 года назад
It smells like an attractive woman that wears expensive perfume and smokes.
@android-ud2nf
@android-ud2nf 2 года назад
You know Noir extreme always reminds me of that flavored smoke you smell in a vegas casino. Just a hint and I love it
@davidwestwood2457
@davidwestwood2457 2 года назад
Looking forward to videos about Hero EDP and Ralph's Club PARFUM!
@zenluvsfun
@zenluvsfun 2 года назад
Hero sounds great! I couldn’t wear it myself, but I could probably work something out if they throw in Adam Driver. And the horse 🐎
@TrustedNose
@TrustedNose 2 года назад
It’s not bad at all, I was worried too.
@dovic5201
@dovic5201 2 года назад
100$ in Sephora 50ml
@joshuarichardz6010
@joshuarichardz6010 2 года назад
I just received a free 50ml of Noir Extreme off Influenster. Super pumped!
@reneemattier5883
@reneemattier5883 Год назад
How'd you swing that?!
@dankocur5777
@dankocur5777 2 года назад
Tom Ford lost cherry is my favorite but the noir extreme is number 2 then black orchid
@ericdavis402
@ericdavis402 Год назад
Lost Cherry is so light people can barely smell it. Insane
@mrbutchie28
@mrbutchie28 2 года назад
It may smell amazing but I cannot do leather notes... It's something about leather I can't get with
@ScentSense
@ScentSense 2 года назад
You don't like Dior Fahrenheit?
@mrbutchie28
@mrbutchie28 2 года назад
@@ScentSense I've smelt it so much over the years it's the only one that I actually like and can tolerate the leather note.
@tgamer1080
@tgamer1080 Год назад
This is really for those TF enthusiasts, you are not gonna go get this as a blind buy and no way any one is buying this if they only have 2 other perfume bottles back home. I've had and used this since September and I've literally made some people choke 🤣🤣🤣
@rahmanrabil
@rahmanrabil 2 года назад
Is it just me or does Ash sometimes look like Tom Ford? I really see some similarities!
@ricdynasty
@ricdynasty 2 года назад
It’s just you.
@williamdacic
@williamdacic 2 года назад
Seems like I'd prefer the original because of the additional smokiness. You never talked about Ombre Leather Parfum (other than in This Week in Fragrance). Have you bought it? Are you planning on comparing it with the original?
@willbuesseler8739
@willbuesseler8739 2 года назад
Ombre Leather parfum is amazing! Fresher more summer appropriate version compared to the original
@cipriandobrea7369
@cipriandobrea7369 2 года назад
@@willbuesseler8739 interesting. I liked the original but live in Brasil where it's usually warm to hot. The parfum might be perfect for me. Thanks.
@Hitman-316
@Hitman-316 2 года назад
Sprung for the 100 ml 👍
@jimmyrecard4390
@jimmyrecard4390 2 года назад
I dont like it
@bladereborn8532
@bladereborn8532 2 года назад
I was actually testing again Tom Ford Noir Xtream at the shop since around2 weeks ago 🤣, and now you remind me again of it haha Awesome ! 👏 gonna order them some of them this year 🥰
@mrsenor32
@mrsenor32 2 года назад
Love the original this one sounds bomb
@Andre-808-k1v
@Andre-808-k1v Год назад
I love it even more than the Noir Extreme and I asked 3 girls their opinion and they loved it, especially the opening the spices were very nice to them.
@Pro_96
@Pro_96 2 года назад
TF is up with that cheap box? Poor presentation for that price range.
@Hungho-jd9pb
@Hungho-jd9pb 2 года назад
Happy for you a man.😊
@mikesanes8608
@mikesanes8608 2 года назад
Bull..it, Armaf packing is better than this!
@So_called-v1j
@So_called-v1j 2 года назад
TF indeed
@Daniel-dy6tu
@Daniel-dy6tu 2 года назад
Anyone bought it to say if projection and performance are worth getting it?
@scottloy89
@scottloy89 2 года назад
If you have the edp version, stick with that if you're looking for performance and projection. If you want diverse and darker, give it a try but get a decant to see your thoughts first.
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