New Tool Class 08 Fit Stay Alive and Lights (Next18) Graham Farish 

@@phillipg1588 The Stay alives really get away with the anxiety from running little locos at slow speeds, now you've got the stay alive bug! 🤣

@@phillipg1588 Thanks for watching, Yep unless the 08's are absolutely spotless of dirt and the pickups are set properly i agree with the "stay alive is needed". I surpose the stay alives also allow us to run the locos more than cleaning them, good luck with your venture to fit one 👍, they really are a game changer😁

Yes i use the insulfrog points and it easily navigates them 👍

The Stay alives are magic 👍 Thanks for watching 👍

Lovely words Brian thank you 👍, a pair of good tweezers definitely helps but im not without my impairments lol, my eyesight isnt fantastic so i use alot of light which helps me to see better👍

@@ThisWayWorksTWW I have a digital microscope with screen & illumination that zooms in extremely well to those "microscopic" fine decoder socket pins. Should make the soldering job much easier - I hoping.

You may want to use the larger stay alives "Lais" offer for a 00 gauge motor. Good luck 👍

Treated it to a new chip and stay alive and yes from Laisdcc . i`ll be busy over the weekend 👍👍

Thanks Pete, thanks for watching, Cheers Rich

Thanks Peachy 👍, yes absolutely watch this space 👍

Haha thanks, theres a few spelling mistakes im affraid and grammar issues, fear not my Mrs will be proof watching the videos before there release from now on so bear with me haha im slowly improving 😂

Thank You, i felt a lot of people want to do this and thought a fairly concise video would help the DIYers a little 👍

I use two desklamps to flood with light, the camera sort of does the rest lol, i left it til the next day when i had all that wiring laying about, it was overwhelming TBH but if you break it down and do a wire at a time you get there in the end. Glad you like the video and hopefully you find it useful even if to remove the body so you can get inside yours👍, Speak soon Rich👍

I love the little Class 08, glad you like it 👍

Thanks for watching John, The Stay alives really are amazing things, they almost eliminate the train stopping anxiety 👍 Take care, Rich

i`ve just fitted one to my 00 gauge 08 ,,,the best it`s ever run ,,,,,lift it off the track and it travels about 1 ft ..perfect

Yes id say the next 18 without sound is probably the most spacious inside 👍, good luck, be good to see it when you do it👍

@@ThisWayWorksTWW I've already put a Zimo MS590 N18 sound card in it and have the stay alive parts. You have me thinking about the lights though, that would finish things nicely...👍

@@jackshepherd6276 id say go all out whilst your in there then 👍

Thank You 👍

Cheers Mike, Id start with the DCC conversion first then maybe consider lights 😁, which type of 08 is yours?

@@ThisWayWorksTWW BR Railfreight 08834 Model No 371-014. Lights never even entered my mind. Just a straightforward dcc conversion.

@@mikeuk1954 it looks like you take out the four screws and move that peice of wire like my one, lift body off, remove blank chip then plug a Next 18 decoder in, yours is the same as mine, it will look the same under the body minus the sound decoder i have 👍. My email is in the about section on this channel if you maybe wanted me to have a look at it? Lights wise im probably not going to do another one for a little while, i need a rest haha

@This Way Works no mine is not the same. It's dc and requires a top hat to convert it. I have the kit but haven't gotten around to doing it yet.

@@mikeuk1954 ok, i did just look at the Hattons website and it said it was Next 18. Either way im sure you'll like it once you fit your chip👍 good luck

Thank you, i still have flashbacks of wiring 🤣

Cheers dude 👍

Thank you, its one of my Favourites to drive around, everyone needs a Class 08 :)

Thank you, i love the little thing, thought it was about time someone showed how to do it as theres really not alot of info out there 👍

I just wish that Bachmann would have the foresight to include solder pads on the PCB for the lights and auxiliary ports. It would make it a tad easier to add lights and other features to their model. Well done for putting this video together, I'm sure it will inspire others to have a go at adding the stay alive and lights.

@@fouldsp Thank you, yeah i dont see why they didnt add the lights stock TBH. The Class 20 cab is pretty similar and their new tooling 20 has the lights, probably a trade off of sound vs lights vs price i suspect

Yep sure is, good luck 👍

Cheers Buddy 👍

Haha thanks, yes i honestly dont know how i crammed those drivers in either, it just sort of happen! 🤣

This stay alive and many others are capacitors normally with a diode and a couple of resistors built into them too👍

Thanks for watching Graham, its a fairly involved thing to do thats for sure, maybe email me in a couple of months when ive forgotten how painful the tiny soldering and all the grinding was 🤣, cheers Rich

Hi Rich, I’ve bitten the bullet and had a go myself, I’m ok till it’s come to soldering the wires onto the decoder socket tabs, have you got any tips as I’m having a nightmare, I’m using extremely fine wire and also the soldering iron in your link. Any advice would be very grateful. Cheers Graham

@@gmantreegood on you Graham 👍 i have my soldering iron at 455°C. I use solder with flux in it too... I tend to get my wires tinned( solder them), tin the contacts near the socket too (pre solder them). Then when you try and solder them together they solder nicely together.. hopefully im making some sense 🤔. There is another option if you find the soldering a bit to small too... You can get Next18 pcbs that actually have solderpads on them.. so it would be a case of removing the existing pcb socket on the loco for a more solder friendly version which has a solder tab for lights and positive for stay alive and ground etc.. i beleive its made by lais, il try and find a link for it shortly.. i cant gaurantee it will fit but its worth a shot if the existing pcb is problematic, they are only a couple of quid...

@@gmantree heres a link to the PCB i mentioned... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193159098115?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=V5rZPaVTRVa&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=u8TBKUlDSdi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@@ThisWayWorksTWW cheers for the reply Rich, I did tin the wire but didn’t really help, I’m not even going to attempt the lights 🤪 just the stay alive, the alternative pcb sounds like the answer 👍

No pear pressure then! 😂😂😂, Its on its way so im committed now! 🤣

@@ThisWayWorksTWW I’ve just watched Sam’s review and he’s noticed the instructions for the TT version has a drawing of a flywheel fitted. But it’s actually missing from the model, possibly because of the contacts for the motor were forgotten by the designer? I’ve just looked at mine and I’m thinking with some clever neater soldering of the motor one might fit. I recon you need to add it to the job list. 😊

@@PeachyTT120 i think the stay alive will do a pretty good job to simulate the lack of flywheel, im just uploading an unbox video now, il start my antics on it soon enough so not too long to wait now :) interesting they show a flywheel though, maybe Hornby preferred space inside vs the flywheel so peops can add sound to them? i quite like the size of TT 👍

@@ThisWayWorksTWW I’m not sure how beneficial a flywheel at this scale would be, but certainly in 00 they can make a loco super smooth at very low speed crawling.

@@PeachyTT120 ues it would definitely help if staying on DC. Im fairly confident i can get the smooth running and crawl from going DCC and tuning the CVs a bit, plus the Stay alive. Its probably best i do a comparison of before and after i do the mods.. i mean if i could also fit a flywheel i probably would however i feel its gona be a bit tight allready and ive not even opened her up yet 🤣

Yeah absolutely you could utilize all four outputs for any of your lighting needs👍 i was just lazy in this case and wired them up for simple direction indication👍 Yes i think i could put a stay alive in a poole type, id put a coreless in it though at the same time tbh so it gives you a bit more space, i suspect more chopping would be required 💩

I shall have a look once im back home later👍 Cheers Rich