New vs Old Land Rover Defender: Up-Hill DRAG RACE & Off-Road Battle!

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Are you in the market for an all-British off-roader? Then let’s face it, you’re going to choose a Land Rover Defender, aren’t you?
It’s fair to say the all-new Defender has come in for a bit of criticism since it was unveiled. So we want to know whether all the negative comments are justified, or if the all-new edition is a worthy replacement to its predecessor. And what better way to find out then with a series of off-road challenges!
When it comes to power, the new Defender has a clear advantage, with its 2-litre turbocharged Diesel engine pumping out 240hp. That's far more than the old generation can muster from its 2.2-litre turbocharged diesel, which only produces 122hp. Not only that but as we saw earlier in the year, the new Defender is packed full of all-new tech and electronics to help find the perfect settings for these off-road obstacles.
So what do you think - can the old Defender hang in there throughout this off-road battle?! There’s only one way to find out… Stick with Mat to see what happens!
Thanks to Nene Overland for lending us the Defender - bit.ly/NeneOverland
Thanks to Protrax for hosting the use of their off-road course - www.protrax.co.uk/
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@AntonioPalmucci 3 года назад

good...now do that against the Fiat Panda 4X4, and then we talk again

@paolamalato8661 3 года назад

you've got a point

@eddiespall5651 3 года назад

or a jimny lmao

@VanekLarson 3 года назад

Getting famous off of comments day 144, so I can live the dream, live life to the fullest .🤙🤙🤙

@AntonioPalmucci 3 года назад

@Aaron Lhungdim ahahahah so happy about this comment!!!! i like this channel 🥰😂

@Luckyjo21 3 года назад

do ittttttttttt

@arnom1885 3 года назад

The old Defender just looks so much more in its element!

@craig__07 3 года назад

What I said in another video

@120fornovo 3 года назад

the new one is a SUV stuffed with electronics, i want to see when it fail, what happens

@Sam-gf6ue 3 года назад

And I guarantee when the next defender comes out (if there will be one). This one will look more in its element.

@stinger_3454 2 года назад

The old defender looks and feels like it can take on some extreme situation

@Huffly123 2 года назад

Thats right

@Aaronburf 2 года назад

To be honest, off-roading is not about speed but it’s about how far it can go. Old defender is gonna last wayyyy longer then this new one. Especially as water and electricity don’t mix and if you go through floods with snorkel it’s easy with old. Edit: Old defender is easy fix as it has bearly any electronic stuff so it can be fixed with a hammer, spanner and screwdriver!

@ThatIcelandicDude 2 года назад

Plus let's not forget the most crucial element. The old defender looks like an actual off-roader.

@mhanke1 2 года назад

You mean oldoldold Defender. Already due to current norms, the lst "old" Defender had enough electronics to make a well-equipped repair shop mandatory.

@duncanmcewan1049 Год назад

@Bass Corp I am fairly certain the "full" Range Rover can wade up to 900mm as well. OK, the question is - who would take a £90k+ car off-roading / through a deep river, but that's another story :p

@mercobenz10 Год назад

Really ...yeah the old defender is known for its reability hh

@carguy3292 Год назад

Bruh did you not know the new defender has a wading depth ( how deep it can go on water) is 0.9 meters but the old one only have 0.5 meters and the new one has a higher snorkel and it's electronics is water proof

@petemiller519 2 года назад

The Old Defender has solid axles, manual transfer case shift, little computer input, and is built to last. Not only that but it looks a hell of a lot better. I'll take the ol' Defender any time of the day.

@CieplinskiPawel 3 года назад

Personal opinion: the old one looks way better! Can't shake the impression new one is just baby Range Rover...

@VeyronBD 3 года назад

It is, same platform and chassis, suspension etc just a new body and some specific changes.

@GBIGBIGBI 3 года назад

totally agree, the old looks so much cooler!

@BikingChap 3 года назад

Of course. It’s only similarity to the old one is it’s name. If I wanted to go off road I’d rather have a new Jimny than the new defender. 🤷‍♂️

@raewambia33 3 года назад

Truee

@antontudor5724 3 года назад

True !

@antonvalentine 3 года назад

Let’s be honest, people respect the old Defender more.

@antoinewilliams129 3 года назад

Well ofc. It’s been proven. The new one has to go through the ringer in order to be respected.

@boilet-masclecolin156 3 года назад

I will never sell mine❤

@dularar8934 3 года назад

new one is a fat panda

@peterfuchs187 3 года назад

@@dularar8934 lol

@nathanwabre 3 года назад

You respect it because the farmer that’s driving it

@travelforlife3080 2 года назад

Might have been fairer to compare against the short wheelbase old Defender. Also, would have liked to see at least one water obstacle, especially with that snorkel on the old Defender - all of those electronic advantages could evaporate in an instant!

@chimei-tekinaneko8318 Год назад

Yep, modern cars in general have way too much computer bs in them.. even as a tech guy, i would always prefer the old boy, cuz they are built simple and strong.

@dtns4551 2 года назад

I think the old Defender would fair better in long-term ownership and possible modifications. The new Defender has lots of electronics that could be expensive to fix later on.

@chimei-tekinaneko8318 Год назад

there is way too much electronics, they just break at some random point and give ya a headache combined with a large repair bill.. modern cars in general should start to chill out with all the electronic crap and go back to just being "simple but sturdy".

@VoloKinProject 3 года назад

Moral of the story - if you can't drive don't buy the old one.

@MarkWright1963 3 года назад

Totally agree

@trocpoc7563 3 года назад

They just tried to look the old one like a rubbish. I think the gap is a bit shorter.

@lcsighteken2248 3 года назад

@@trocpoc7563 The old one could have made that final course. I have driven sedans off-road in more difficult terrain. I don't agree with the outcome of this video. To get a better right turn radius, he could have moved to the left a bit to create enough space for the turn. I think these guys could have done a better job with the old defender.

@leegroenewald6045 3 года назад

Agreed! LOL...LR is working OVERTIME to convince people that this is a better 4x4 and for whats its worth, YES, it can be. Especially with someone who doesn't know how to drive off-road. With all the driver aids etc, helping one get unstuck or preventing one from getting...the new Defender has its merits... given. If you're a clueless weekend warrior...go nuts! But that is the last thing you need when out in the middle of nowhere! I can do the same with a Range Rover...doesn't make it a good choice for the purpose no matter how awesome it looks splashing through the water. First thing would be... don't take anything you can't fix yourself on the fly. (That includes one's vehicle and the first mistake with the new Defender). Second... If you can't drive, don't go! Ability, reliability and adaptability is crucial when far from help.( Anyone who thinks they will tackle Africa in this thing is going to be sorely mistaken. There are only two vehicles you'll find out here in the sun and in the outback of Australia etc... Land Cruisers, (the odd Patrol)and old Defenders... anything else is a death wish other side of a weekend away). No guesses who's gonna need a tow or a lift to the nearest village. If it'll let you get towed..wont be your choice either way.

@joshuasimonangra9981 3 года назад

This is just Bloody Lousy Driving.

@autoapex1641 3 года назад

"Land Rover turning owners into mechanics since 1948"

@oakleydoakley4225 3 года назад

So true👌

@aaronadkins8234 3 года назад

Oh, very clever. Never heard that one before...

@atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

Nice one. But are the old ones also unreliable?

@dagger8355 3 года назад

@@atarvhegde5210 especially the old ones

@atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

@@dagger8355 Thanks for the info

@sk8punk318 Год назад

99.9% of owners of that new Defender will sadly never utilize all those cool off-road features it has. Being able to set the speed for going downhill is pretty cool, never seen that before.

@yorrickcorreia1655 Год назад

The Toyota Land Cruiser is even better

@MrLince-hr4of Год назад

So sk8punk318 knows all 100% of the owners of the new Defender and ask them ALL personaly ! great work 👍👍👍

@Car-crazy Год назад

@@yorrickcorreia1655 I would agree. I actually do own a Brand New Land cruiser. It is a great rig

@victorvlog1940 3 года назад

Mat: worried about damaging the car Also mat: resting feet on the dash and seat 🤡

@harrybowsher3430 3 года назад

Considering the age difference and the price, the old defender still does well

@jamesmitchell6231 2 года назад

The old defender is worth more then the new

@yattonjunction 2 года назад

Come back after 100000 miles and tell us which one broke down most!

@johnlatsch9720 2 года назад

If they would take the anti roll bar off the old one and let the axles flex it would do a lot better. Or unplug the wheel sensor on the new one. That would shut off the traction control and hill decent.

@brycepaoli8531 2 года назад

@@johnlatsch9720 My Landy doesn't even have anti roll bars (Its a 1988). Kind of sketchy when going around those roundabouts... Almost as if I'm in a rollercoaster! an old... rickety rollercoaster...

@LevenZ69 Год назад

@@brycepaoli8531 that's surely scary lol

@radarsh1967 3 года назад

Still love the old one, a true icon.

@rippster8825 3 года назад

New one look odd for me atleast

@PGee. 3 года назад

Both are🤮

@MorningNapalm 3 года назад

Best comment so far, not about better or worse, just about how much we like them. I love them both, but unless I was starting an off-roading company in some remote part, I would take the new one. I just hope that they can get it reliable.

@ashleygentle6501 3 года назад

I feel the same about the ex-wife.

@jackbirchley4609 2 года назад

@@MorningNapalm With all those electronics, find an old defender with little or no electronics.

@kingarthur5110 2 года назад

Land Rover turned the Defender into a Discovery, the Discovery into a Range Rover and the Range Rover into a Bentley.

@cosy1914 10 месяцев назад

The new defender is a better off road vehicle than the disco. Full stop.

@samueljohnclark 2 года назад

With front and rear diff locks fitted (which are common accessories), the ‘old’ land rover would not have had ended up stuck with‘cross axels’!

@eazy-EPB2020 2 года назад

I thought the same

@carguy3292 Год назад

Well land Rover didn't want that in the old one and fitted it to the new one to make it better than the old

@Solothurnezos 5 месяцев назад

Ja but has traction control and the guy has it off. Should be on to see what can do cause TC helps the vehicle extremely well!

@andysibthorp4584 3 года назад

Take both cars to africa for a year and give them a set of tools in case of repairs. Lets see which survives.

@khailils446 3 года назад

Very odd use case for the normal consumer

@Shane-zx4ps 3 года назад

Why not just buy a Toyota Land Cruiser and leave your tool at home ad you won’t need them

@worldwidehiphop8843 3 года назад

How many people take their defender to africa? Answer: no fucking one. Worst they ll see is a muddy field somewehre in europe and thats it. Like 99.9 % of all "off roaders

@viralbarot3203 3 года назад

@@worldwidehiphop8843 Most of our safaris here in Botswana use the land rover defender. So I am not sure what your talking about.

@viralbarot3203 3 года назад

@@ragingmill8088 I am from Botswana and most of the safaris here use defenders. The defender even managed to cross an empty river which was deep and full of sand.

@autonewstv86 3 года назад

the old Defender is still as cool as Steve Mqueen.

@indrabendi3300 3 года назад

Yes, i prefer the old one

@georgedowns4034 3 года назад

old defender is cool yeh but nothing on the coolness (if that's a word) of the latest one in my opinion

@Zahoodo 3 года назад

The new defender is the same as discovery it has no links to the old beast

@ArcherTheGolfer 3 года назад

Nothing cool about driving a out of date old tin can thats so uncomfortable to drive 😂

@georgedowns4034 3 года назад

@@Zahoodo yes cus it looks sooooo different to the old one, is rubbish off-road & only got 2 seats. The new one is much better in my opinion

@Bruh845 3 года назад

I own a ‘96 110 and I can tell you here, it’s an absolute joy. It is so far from perfect, which makes it even more perfect. I call mine “Herman”. I personally don’t like the new defender, they’ve made a proper off roader into a family SUV, full of electricity when landys were always supposed to be basic. It also shows how much bigger cars have got over the years.

@soloperformer5598 3 года назад

It might be more appropriate and informative to see how far each one travels from new before (expensively) breaking down.

@sjowners 2 года назад

They're both shit let's be honest. The difference is the old one can be fixed.

@codemy666 Год назад

considering one has warranty then it won't be a fair comparison :')

@stevedrake1965 3 года назад

The new defender takes all the fun out of off roading The whole point of off roading is to have fun and hone your skills

@LouLope 3 года назад

20 years from now the old Defender is still running, while the new one is crushed and recycled with failed electronics and no factory support.

@AaaaandAction 3 года назад

Exactly my thoughts. Old series especially 1,2,3, etc is owner fixable in the field, this new SUV is just a competent modern car needing serious support network. You’re not comparing like for like and the target audience/buyer are completely different types.

@catalinstavaru5355 3 года назад

Steam locomotives are still running today :)

@GenaF 3 года назад

Exactly my view. They won't sell well second hand because nobody will want to touch all the electrics whereas LR owners traditionally have always worked on theirs so the new ones will sell to the country gents/gamekeepers/caravan pullers but those who spend their weekend doing mud runs at various courses around the U.K. the true LR enthusiasts who love going off-road, they may look at the new ones but they'll never get rid of their OG Defenders for a new 1.

@koitorob 3 года назад

@@catalinstavaru5355 Only a few...

@rajivrsimon 3 года назад

The future... foretold 😂

@matcampbell-hill6939 2 года назад

Well done on basing the review on only about 1/3 of the reasons we own/use (original) Defenders/Series. The rest of the time we want to know that they are cheap and easy to fix, with quick to bolt on/off parts and plenty of access. We then also want to know that we can chuck stuff in it like hay, feed bags, and mucky kit, and be happy rinsing it out with a hose rather than have to do a full valet. And then, last bit definitely not least: ANYONE who’s owned a modern Land Rover know that their electrics and computers are APPALLING! All those screens and soft touch buttons are great to look at, but I don’t know a single owner of a modern era Range Rover or Discovery who has had to return their car to the dealer multiple times for such issues. I loved my Rangey when it worked, but it averaged 3 or 4 service visits a year for electrics/loom etc. So, for the job my 90 does, you’ll never catch me buying one of the new versions.

@AkhilJoseph-ix5ri 8 месяцев назад

Matt considered old one like as it was an Asian vehicle 😂

@georgebellamy4737 3 года назад

Don't get me wrong. The new defender is amazing at off road, but 1 thing that everyone keeps missing is parts. My 110 TD5 defender has had numerous new parts on it, and they're cheap as chips, AND i can fix it in my driveway. Defenders are utilitarian, the new defender is (in my opinion) a more off road orientated Range Rover

@atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

Well , due to the luxury their other SUVs provide , Land Rover has become more of a luxury car than off road car. Don't get me wrong though, all I am saying is people expect Land Rovers to the luxurious and comfy , not utilitarian. The situation was different back in the 70s and 80s though

@1979jon 3 года назад

Reshelled disco sport

@agilchrist73 3 года назад

Form or function - a Defender was always function first. If this bloke could drive off-road, the old defender would be towing out the new one from a ditch

@magnustan841 3 года назад

Can you imagine if they brought out a 2020 car and it looked, felt and drove like a military vehicle? No one would buy it... The new Defender has to offer a sprinkling of premium, while still being roughty-toughly. I think they’ve done an a decent job, I wished it just it looked a touch more like it’s predecessors, just a little. The only thing that’s familiar is the rear...

@Mr.k3n 3 года назад

@@magnustan841 a person in the comments who actually has common sense!!! Fuck my life!!!

@luissalgado8777 3 года назад

Fair play: lets wait 40 years to find out how good is the new "defender"

@indlovubill7100 3 года назад

In 40 years the 'new' Defender will have been recycled into beer cans.

@josefastboats5874 3 года назад

@@indlovubill7100 And people will still be riding in and restoring the old Land Rovers LOL

@Brato1986 2 года назад

All the electronics will fail in some years, good when you are out in the bush.

@timrains5011 2 года назад

40?! Try 70.

@rscosworthfan 2 года назад

@@NJ-pt3oz means old model not old age

@rudranshakulwar1429 2 года назад

Old one is still the father and king. Because at this age competition like this is just 🔥🔥

@desertrover Год назад

For real remote offroad Expedition the old one is the Choice, the older the better, the less electronics the better

@Adityakumar-jm1jv 3 года назад

Was anybody else angry when he kept his dirty foot on the seats and on the dashboard.

@harryluteshi7487 3 года назад

Well we would if it was the old one, who cares about the new one

@sinuslebastian6366 3 года назад

Aditya kumar +1

@ensoelmeri3288 3 года назад

@@harryluteshi7487 agreed the new one can go to hell

@Pia-ho9dm 3 года назад

@@ensoelmeri3288 what??

@Pia-ho9dm 3 года назад

🤯

@lawsonjones2285 3 года назад

40+ years difference in technology and let's be honest most people would still prefer the old one

@soe_tv 3 года назад

This man is spitting fax

@modelreviews3705 3 года назад

It's true I prefer the old defender 😁😊

@thecremeegg 3 года назад

No chance, they're HORRIBLE cars for anything other than going over rough ground. They're cramped inside, handle awfully and are incredibly slow. I don't get the love for them

@soe_tv 3 года назад

@@thecremeegg if u love Defender u don't care about those things 😒

@lawsonjones2285 3 года назад

@@thecremeegg you are right.... But people still love them

@Car-crazy Год назад

I still prefer the old one, it looks way better even if it isn't as capable,. It will also be more reliable. The old defender looks like it's ready to go off road, which is of course is. The new one looks more like a mother's shopping cart ready to pick up the groceries.

@muhdalamin3585 2 года назад

The old Defender is actually a really sturdy and solid car

@gentlemanparrot 3 года назад

Spoiler: the Defender won in all of the challenges.

@atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

New defender: I have got more tech to help off roading be safe and easy Meanwhile Richard Hammond: Still manages to crash it

@judeairy8485 3 года назад

“Hammond you idiot”

@generalkweizr7091 3 года назад

which defender?

@atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

@@judeairy8485 HAMMOND!! YOU BLITHERING IDIOT!!!

@MCA_from_CPT 3 года назад

CLARKSON!!!

@jackalmuiz 3 года назад

I'd still choose the old defender any day, anywhere.

@modelfarmer8124 3 года назад

Yes

@Kassiusday 3 года назад

Yea of course The short version of the old is so cute too !!! But which one is the more comfy ?

@gromo2955 3 года назад

same

@sithmijayawardana9262 3 года назад

This man is not like to old defender

@jackalmuiz 3 года назад

@@Kassiusday with the interior done properly, the old defender is still my preferable choice for comfort. It's both practical and comfy.

@vikasjsheth Год назад

I bet the old Defender has and time and again proven what the new Defender doesn’t have…RELIABILITY!

@Tom-gt6qp 3 года назад

this should be called: "new discovery VS real defender"

@jakobkondera1023 3 года назад

the old one is just a lot cooler isn’t it...

@Dilbagh0210 3 года назад

100%

@AaxXxeE54 3 года назад

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@Mika-85 3 года назад

And if they would have turned the bloody diff lock on it would also have gotten through those holes with ease. It's not a fair comparison. If they want to compare it the way people drive it they should have used diff lock on the old one. Anyone that does serious off-roading with an old Defender will have Diff lock on. Same as with the new one people will probably not turn diff lock on. This comparison is just so far from real world scenarios.. To me it seems Landrover sponsored the video to get more sales on the new Defender.

@EngMecanica-wd9ed 3 года назад

No. Its a garbage

@georgedowns4034 3 года назад

Nope- I much prefer the new one

@chrisdooley6468 3 года назад

an old Defender drove me across the Sahara in Mauritania and did things that should’ve been impossible when I was young. There’ll never be anything greater imo

@taurauross9576 3 года назад

Wow!!..I envy that experience.. I'm keeping my old trusty defender.

@MD-uu5nt 3 года назад

Yeah... A TOYOTA is going to be much better in almost every area.

@chrisdooley6468 3 года назад

@@MD-uu5nt I agree but my experience was with Defenders the year I was there and the year I was in Mali. Toyota’s were all over too but that Defender we used never broke down that I remember and that was two decades ago lol. But the engineering abilities of the locals to repair stuff efficiently without a steady influx of parts was amazing.

@lunseren 2 года назад

This challenge but with ROCK CRAWLING.

@airport4173 Год назад

when you've bought a landrover defender the ONLY REAL TOOL is YOU.

@heathm5151 3 года назад

Aesthetics: New Defender - 0 points. Old Defender - 10 points.

@georgedowns4034 3 года назад

Rly? Why? (Just curious)

@georhodiumgeo9827 3 года назад

Yeah he can have all of the points with the new one. Why are all the girls hanging around the old one?

@heathm5151 3 года назад

@@georgedowns4034 My eyes, they burn.

@heathm5151 3 года назад

@@georhodiumgeo9827 Because they are most often driven my handsome men, women or Vera.

@georhodiumgeo9827 3 года назад

@@heathm5151 I own a 94 D90 so you have made me smile so big you can see all 3 of my teeth. LOL

@cristiandemirel1918 3 года назад

it's incredible the new Defender managed to do half an hour of off-road driving without a check engine light popping out on the dashboard!

@danhopkinson2811 3 года назад

i wouldn't call that offroading

@Clavinovaman 3 года назад

Really? Any road test -from anywhere in the world - so far suggest that there are issues with the engine lights popping out on the dashboard?

@josephndazi5863 3 года назад

The TFL defender had a check emgine light after offroading. The new thing broke down on the first day out!!!

@loganholmberg2295 3 года назад

Check out TFLnow to see how their new Defender is going in Colorado....you won't be surprised.😅

@danhopkinson2811 3 года назад

My mate recently had one at a hot air balloon show. The plastic cheq plate thats supposed to support a person standing on it cracked when he put his body weight on his hand, he snapped the plastic trim off the roof where a roof rack mounts, snapped a bunch of interior parts and clips, broke the ash tray, pushed on the rear lights and heard plastic cracking......he said the whole thing is made of cheap brittle plastic. Its all creaky.

@HeliRy 10 месяцев назад

People smile when they see an old Defender. No one smiles at the new one. They only laugh.

@georgechilman6250 2 года назад

Difference is that the old one will keep on going and the new one will break down after a couple of months 😂

@someinternetdude4159 3 года назад

When your new one breaks down, you tow it with an old one.

@markone4191 3 года назад

awesome!

@naufalkeandrerizqulloh3343 3 года назад

when the old one breaks down, you tow it with a toyota land cruiser

@someinternetdude4159 3 года назад

@@naufalkeandrerizqulloh3343 I also like the old Land Cruisers. Good cars.

@farvacarramrod3672 3 года назад

That aint no shit. TFL tested one... they have been through 3 now all of them breaking down with electrical issues.

@mattyp80 3 года назад

This is the subject skirted over by this review: when you do get a breakdown with the old one in the middle of nowhere, you can get out and fix it there without having to have a degree in electrical engineering! An addendum: spoke with my brother this weekend and were discussing this very topic (he works for Jag/LR) and apparently the testing for reliability is incredibly rigorous, finding and solving any issues it might have had, making it as reliable as the old one! That said, if something does happen it will still be more difficult to fix in the middle of nowhere!

@Elvis-mg6vb 3 года назад

If Mat could actually drive the results may be different for the older vehicle. Plus, I think Mat is slightly bias towards the newer vehicle. Just saying ...

@jerome4995 3 года назад

His driving is a joke! And his bias was obvious.

@sic22l 3 года назад

Old one wasn't allowed to lock the diffs.

@jhndijkman 3 года назад

Mat is a joke. Errrrr, I mean plonker! Just saying. 😋

@jerome4995 3 года назад

@mrmarcus ! I can see where new technology can definitely help in traction and sensing wheel spin. However, when in a not very technical and you are in low range?? That sealed it.

@youtoob8166 3 года назад

If he didn't make the new defender look good, landrover wouldn't have paid him

@yoranw4608 2 года назад

Is it only me or is EVERYONE crossing fingers for the new Defender to last and save Land Rover's reputation of sinking into the sands. The Old Defender was magic. *Let us hope this new one isn't like the other Rovers*

@LethimosPrepping101 2 года назад

It might win today with all the electronics in perfect conditions, but as a mechanic friend was use to say : "The Def might not be the best 4 wheel drive in the world, but if something happens in the middle of a forest or a desert with a hammer, a screwdriver and a pair of pliers you can make a old DEF continue his journey, do the same with a new generation electronic 4x4 if you can"

@FisheeC3 3 года назад

The new defender beats the old one in every category, except for the most important one - Desirability.

@johnny_bravo9990 3 года назад

🙌

@tonybaksh7597 3 года назад

And durability. If you drive across sahara in the new defender it won't stand a chance . Even tho the old one is 20+ years I still respect it

@shawtravis7384 3 года назад

not quite - axle articulation is crucial off-road, not displayed by the new def

@MarkoCoomo 3 года назад

Desirability .. modability, coolness, price, accessory range, roadside fixability, less junk to go wrong, community ...

@baller7387 3 года назад

@Seamus McShamish I didn't see anything make believe about the tests in this video. You sound like a salty fanboy for the old Defender who can't accept that the new one is better in virtually every way off-road. If you can't believe that, feel free to watch the video again for empirical evidence that this is the case, lol

@Blueboy1175 3 года назад

Anyway this looked like a show trying to promote the new defender by making the old defender look bad on purpose.

@De_Real_Dude 3 года назад

It was so obvious... They actually stuck an automatic driver in a manual car

@4wdflying 3 года назад

Agree, you could easily devise some tests the old one could win involving more ground clearance and tow a trailer with at lest two tons on it - and some sheep in the back. Then the price difference.. not going to appeal to the old core market who want a working vehicle to throw mucky stuff in the back.

@trocpoc7563 3 года назад

Exactly

@leegroenewald6045 3 года назад

The driver aids are brilliant in a pinch when off-roading, but far from necessary when over-landing through Africa. It just gives more clueless wannabe's the motivation they need to get themselves and others into a lot of trouble.

@amateurtorque6709 3 года назад

@Martin Svensson does having the centre diff locked not mean that all four wheels should rotate at the same speed?

@glennj6465 3 года назад

Have you tried doing a multiple line pull at the back so it’s a 3-4 line, like a block and tackle would be ?

@theidahoan1240 2 года назад

The defender is my dream car, wasn't sure about the new design and seeing them side by side, Id still take the old one. Its a true landrover.

@thomaslohr2864 3 года назад

The old Defender looks like the James Bond baddies arrive, the new one looks like a soccer mom's new Dacia..

@mulidubicus1473 3 года назад

I thought it u said it

@PrezCow 3 года назад

You hit the nail on the head with that one

@KevinTalbotTV 3 года назад

the real defender is obviously better off road in the real world!

@aydenebert277 3 года назад

Hey Kevin Talbot I watch your videos!

@MarcusAntonius415 3 года назад

Umm no. Did you watch the video?

@eokwuanga 3 года назад

As opposed to the simulation it was driven in in this video?

@iqbalali5678 3 года назад

Tyres make a BIG difference

@Scarlet_Soul 3 года назад

For off-roading you've got to expect the occasional knock which would you prefer to take off road

@timrains5011 2 года назад

When the electrical gremlins begin, those who need a defender will choose the defender. There's only one defender, the other is a different car.

@CaptPegg Год назад

But you can’t make the new one less ugly. It is just a new discovery.

@hc3733 Год назад

Sense of beauty is a very subjective matter. Which simply means what you think matters NOTHING to other people.

@marcoshernandez745 3 года назад

I’d still have the old defender it just looks incredible

@EleanorPeterson 2 года назад

Yep. There's also the benefit of simplicity. In an out-of-the way place like the Australian outback or the African bundu, I'd feel a lot more confident trying to keep an old Defender running (with a hammer and spanner) than trying to cope with the new one and a blinking light on the dashboard above the diagnostic port: 'Unspecified System Failure: Return to Main Dealer For Encryption Code Reset.' Huh? 🤔

@long_view 3 года назад

Considering there's around 70 years between the designs, it shows how incredible the old LandRover/Defender actually (still) is.

@RandallSlick 3 года назад

It was average 70 years ago, and slowly declined with age. That's what happens when you have a company unwilling to spend any money on R&D.

@AlexNijv 2 года назад

and way cooler

@wopmf4345FxFDxdGaa20 2 года назад

The old is 70 years old design only in looks. It has been technically completely revamped at least once and minor updates done countless times. Basically / technically / underpinnings wise the old defender is the is same car as Range Rover Classic, with a modern engine.

@wopmf4345FxFDxdGaa20 2 года назад

For example suspension, which is very important in off foading, was originally leaf springs based. After about 80's it has been coil springs and supported like in the first RR. Engines are modern ford, and land rover, etc.

@alvinsquezz 3 года назад

The Old school vs The New school, which one is the best school?? Me: Hmmmm I’m off roadingggg right now.. L🤣L!!!

@AgneDei 2 года назад

Come on, on uphill and the last one the old car should've had both diffs locked, that's why they're there. Still the new one is very capable and honestly, off-road ground clearance and A/D/B angles are far superior to crossover angle. And also anyone experienced will agree that the tires make the biggest difference.

@junrenong8576 2 года назад

Agreed. And If the electronics in Land Rovers are reliable enough the new one should be a game changer ......... but its a Land Rover. If I buy one with the intention to do mud off-roading, I will visit a tire shop to bought a new set of off road tires ..... at least for the new Defender.

@stevewilliams587 3 года назад

Demonstrating that the driver who can't drive looses.

@matthewp9015 3 года назад

I think what it shows is that the new Defender can still perform better than the old model without needing to be driven by an expert.

@JHsadler 3 года назад

@@matthewp9015 instead, it requires on complex electronics, which is failing on brand new Defenders already, let alone ageing ones. Traction control is useless when it stops working, which it will.

@ensoelmeri3288 3 года назад

agreed

@fabianm2819 3 года назад

exactly. I've had my licence literally a year and my clutch control is better than his. he's purposefully driving like a tool

@ensoelmeri3288 3 года назад

@@fabianm2819 I have only drive like 10 times and my clutch control is better then him too 😂

@AngelsLoveErbil 3 года назад

The problem here is Mat trying to belittle Manuals and not going wild with offroaders.

@BikingChap 3 года назад

The problem here is that any broadcaster that relies on the manufacturers to supply them with vehicles to test is never going to be in the least bit critical of their latest machine.

@koitorob 3 года назад

No, the problem here is Mat is a PILLOCK!

@BikingChap 3 года назад

@@koitorob He’s probably just a normal guy trying to make a buck but everyone thinks they have to be ‘funny’ and ‘entertaining’. Top Gear has a lot to answer for.

@uknowme1169 2 года назад

No matter how good the new defender I want the old defender because of its attitude

@geoffreyfretwell4428 2 года назад

Unfortunately I couldn't afford to buy either of them, but if I had to make a choice it would be the old Defender.

@jody024 3 года назад

Where the old one wins: Reliability and value.

@a20axf 3 года назад

And if maintained properly it’ll still be running after 50 years.

@chrisashwin8548 3 года назад

Let's face it 99% of new defenders sold will never see off the road. So it will be a status symbol on the school run. 99% of owners will have no idea how to engage half of those features.

@justinojara9169 3 года назад

i love the looks of the new defender for sure, but the old one looks equally great have been i serious admirer of the 110 defender, i dont actually mind owning both for different reasons but if i have to choose one i will go with the old

@danielgonzalezd.4343 Год назад

The old defender is still a good-looking car. I like it a lot, however; the new defender is amazing. I wasn't sure if there was one pilot of each vehicle, or did you drive both? I am just mesmerized by the power of the new defender and even more surprised of its price.

@nicolascorre1er 3 года назад

I had to stop halfway through. I live in the Amazon Forest, 70 to 95% of humidity, you don't want that electronic to fail big time in those harsh conditions when you're 200kms of muddy roads away from the first mechanic. The og Defender was meant to overcome that. The soul is lost.

@jamesnield 3 года назад

Be interesting to see how many new defenders are still on the road in 20yrs time. Because most of the old ones will be.

@bobskrzynski2918 2 года назад

"my car's doing everything for me". "another victory" That's not a victory in my eyes.

@apoplexic23 2 года назад

I'd never trade my old one in for a new one.

@jbhk7977 3 года назад

This is not a test. Go off road, but this time for real.

@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 3 года назад

Yeah... this course was pretty specifically designed to fail the old Defender and play to the strengths of the new one. LR probably had a hand in producing the video. There are plenty of videos out already of the new Defender getting stuck or not performing quite as well under real-world offroad conditions.

@Keoponloeu 3 года назад

@@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg have you driven it yet before you complain?

@Keoponloeu 3 года назад

@@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg if the old defender is a they say very capable. I’m sure it would go over everything. Just say that you hate how the new one looks.

@ranichso735 3 года назад

Exactly. I have been competing across Salisbury Plain in a Series One against all sorts of such modern all wheel drives and the Series One just keeps going but over the course the electronics never survived.

@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 3 года назад

@@Keoponloeu The new one is quite good at what it was built for, but it's just not going to be as good as the original in many ways. Nothing is going to 'go over everything' and both vehicles have strengths and weaknesses. It's just that this particular course was designed to make the new version look good, under the guise of a 'fair' test. And as I said, there are already quite a few videos out already showing the new one having difficulty in places that older Defenders were getting through more easily. And there are some showing the new traction control system doing things an older vehicle couldn't do. But you cannot say that the new Defender is as rugged and versatile as the old one, and those are qualities which count above all to many people. How are all those fancy electronics going to do while fording water up to it's window line? In a few years when the warranty disappears, is your local mechanic going to be able to pull it apart and fix it no problem for reasonable money? And for that matter, what if you need to repair something in the field? Are you going to be able to get home with a basic tool kit? The new Defender is a fine vehicle for people who want a fun offroad toy to play around with for a few years -- and that's fine. The old one is an investment that will continue to pay dividends well into the future. We can't pretend one is actually replacing the other though.

@grgr6720 3 года назад

Mat is like: It's not my car who cares if it breaks.

@anthoneyparker9401 3 года назад

second test was unfair as the modern one has grooves in its downhill slowing it down, older had a normal decline down and less problems going down.

@centergaming5055 2 года назад

Thing is, what modifications can you make to the new defender? I kinda wanna install a ham radio to an old one and I dont see place to put it in the back of the new. Just worried about it, especially with a budget

@nochops1781 3 года назад

The new defender is school run junk. Old defender every time.

@garthrichert5256 3 года назад

You have found the truth.

@killianhaugh3819 3 года назад

Take off your nostalgia glasses and realise that its evolution and the defender needed it

@nochops1781 3 года назад

@@killianhaugh3819 The defender is supposed to be farm utility vehicle, update it by all means. The new model is just a grocery getter and there are already dozens of those available so what's the point of producing another.

@marciliojunior4919 3 года назад

@@killianhaugh3819 People Just dont like the look of the new defender and how unreliable it is. If Land Rover pulled the Gwagen card and made the new generation identical to the old one no one would complain

@mariahrusca7347 3 года назад

Yes! some one understands!

@valentinolupi243 3 года назад

New defender: more technologically advanced, old defender: absolutely no advanced technology but way cooler and fun. I'd take the old one without doubt

@nickb5391 3 года назад

me too, less things to go wrong too

@aliadel3290 3 года назад

Better looking too.

@williamrogers5367 2 года назад

With a bit more speed before some of the tests, the old defender would stand more of a chance

@camhobbs1 2 года назад

It's nice to have something that can go anywhere with ease, but there's no thrill in that! Part of the enjoyment of off-roading is the adrenaline of "am I gonna make it through this obstacle", and the stories that come from failure or success. There's also the 'skills' vs 'computer' part of the enjoyment too.

@qaisfiaz4925 3 года назад

This wasn’t a comparison it was an advert 😡. You’ve let yourself down Matt! Don’t try and pull the wool over our eyes. Take some reality lessons from Clarkson!!!!

@Nibbix1313 3 года назад

Exactly

@pelina72 3 года назад

This add sounds so fake...

@stephenpupe8553 3 года назад

If it wasn't broke why fix it. This doesn't even deserve the defender title.

@punithtamasha200 3 года назад

@@pelina72 yeah..

@luke78333 3 года назад

It's not even that well disguised. Some kind of cash for comments going on here.

@johnpirie3800 3 года назад

I'd still take the old one against the new one, all day long. Its instantly recognisable, quintessentially British and the best 4 x4 , not by far, but ever. In my opinion of course. Everyone stay safe.

@joyschtik 2 года назад

That’s not how off roaders are tested. It’s no “race” but ability to go over tough or even extreme terrain, practicality, customizability…etc

@CaptPegg Год назад

If it’s anything like the Range Rover and Discovery air systems they will break when most needed, then cost thousands to repair. Where the old landrover takes a £50 spring.

@WouterB76 3 года назад

Falls test , next time arrange somebody who's got terrain driving skills.

@georhodiumgeo9827 3 года назад

Yeah, this driver reminds me of the guy that gets stuck in a blanket on the Snuggie commercial, LOL I love it. I don’t know anybody that wheels any Defender with the sway bars still engaged. I’m a Defender owner and I can tell you any time you mention wheeling there is a 20min conversation about wheel articulation headed your way. I just hope they got paid for this.

@joshw8180 3 года назад

It would only be fair if they got some people that know what they are doing

@ivanidea1190 3 года назад

Agreed...

@ryanwaugh1 3 года назад

He was so biased. Even the wheel travel thing he tried to make it a draw 🤣

@EnglishwithMrSam 3 года назад

Which means, the old one takes a lot of skills and sweat of the driver whereas the new one does the job itself. Am I wrong?

@miguelcvidal 3 года назад

That's not a proper offroad test. Offroading is about passing obstacles, not a race. Take them to mud, water and rocks and then we'll see.

@phillipjswanepoel8044 3 года назад

And then stacked for new. 1) need to run visa versa also. 2) new some slots, clearly not as smooth as old's road. 3) know turning circle, so make sure tree circle need to be small to allow new to win. 4) 5)................

@gc2234 3 года назад

Here you go then... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LJtybtPCgSo.html

@miguelcvidal 3 года назад

@@gc2234 much better but I'm expecting a harder test.

@narasimhapai8014 2 года назад

Funny how people prefer the old one even though it lost almost all the tests and the new one delivered.

@ginggur17 2 года назад

I’m not a major LR fan, however, the older looks way better just on sheer character. I’m sure it’ll grow on me.

@irenelim5134 3 года назад

The old Land Rover was 10 seconds slower cos Matt was the driver.

@maus_boyv6842 3 года назад

Exactly

@awakhiwemaxmpofu1323 3 года назад

I agree.. The Old Defender is and always will be The best

@duncMAC150 3 года назад

the car with the biggest turning circle lost its that simple and the old defender has bigger turning circle.

@wiktor4040 3 года назад

Let’s all be honest, the old one is much nicer looking.

@atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

Yes

@TheoDaJunk 3 года назад

Tbh it looks like a train with wheels No hate guys just my opinion

@xali2008 3 года назад

the old Defender looks like it means business.

@mickharris9966 3 года назад

My biggest problem would be scratching the new one. The old one wouldn't be a problem with a few scratches on.

@julianchubb7492 3 года назад

must have got a big drink for promoting the new vw ranger, proper landrover all day long. My 90 is 36yrs old and still going strong

@nexu2 3 года назад

And yet everyone would still have the old one.

@saatviktyagi4800 3 года назад

It's only u👍

@uww.v 3 года назад

@@saatviktyagi4800 yeah the like ratio proves your point!

@charlesdickerson1858 3 года назад

And proof that the old Defender lovers can't be swayed and don't really care about the capabilities. Change is good.

@nissanpatrol8950 3 года назад

@@charlesdickerson1858 this was light off roading... take both to some trails in australia and see which does better

@charlesdickerson1858 3 года назад

@@nissanpatrol8950 Statistically speaking, If the new Defender did better in the "light off road" it will still do better in Australia. If the old Defender cannot handle the light off road setting then it won't do much better in tougher conditions (Without major upgrades of course).

@chetanmendiratta8591 3 года назад

This is a Paid Promotion just to show the new defender is better off-roader but in reality it can't match the old one. Also Mat you just can't drive a manual properly so don't try... 😎

@ryanbatchlifts2045 3 года назад

Car goes through several tests proving itself. "Oh but it can't match the old one"😂🤣

@nathanaeltambunan607 3 года назад

But the new defender is REALLY the better defender, did you not watch the video??

@t3ddy148 3 года назад

@@nathanaeltambunan607 did u not see what happened, they cant drive either properly, they swapped drivers to make the new one look better offroad and make the old one worse, when they cross axled that should not have happened, they do not know how to drive off road

@henning33sud58 3 года назад

I don’t have a problem with paid posts. Because otherwise RU-vid would be empty. But all other things you are right.

@veys1985 3 года назад

Old defender has the off road character. The new one is just an upgraded Range Rover evoque.

@thomasowens5824 Год назад

What happened to the water obstacles ?? Btw you have a voice perfect for silent films.

@JackJarman 3 года назад

Such a shame that the cars weren't on similar tyres. Makes a massive difference

@millomweb 3 года назад

The older Def looked better shod.

@dbclass4075 3 года назад

Perhaps those are the default tires that comes with the car? Granted, the old Defender's tires isn't necessarily brand new, but uses the same specification.

@millomweb 3 года назад

@@dbclass4075 If one is buying a 4x4 for a reason, it's fair to specify tyres for that same purpose too ! I suspect many are bought by the ignorant, perhaps for looks or size rather than capabilities. On that bass, it wouldn't be good for suppliers to default to full off-road tyres !

@dbclass4075 3 года назад

@@millomweb Exactly. Due to unpredictability of the users many tires of off-roaders tend to be a compromise between street, and off-road.

@millomweb 3 года назад

@@dbclass4075 I wouldn't even say that ! I see many with pretty much road tyres - they might be a harder rubber or more durable but the tread pattern looks deffo for the road - to cut down road noise. Many of the off-road videos, I see hybrid tyres with perhaps just under a quarter of the vehicles having true off-road tyres. Even then, they're off-road car tyres and not proper off-road tyres which are not designed for on-road use!

@NathanAlderGigaBITNate 3 года назад

I feel like Matt isn’t rly a car guy anymore, Matt seems happy to have everything automated, assistances everywhere instead of the pure manual!

@gregoryg.402 3 года назад

there is a time in every mans life...

@platinumguitar 3 года назад

Define a "car guy"? Is someone not a car guy if he doesn't always want to drive a manual, without any driver aids, or airbags, or a seatbelt, or lane assist, or automatic collision detection? Of course there's a case to be made about automating the tedious things about a car. Especially one that isn't a sports car. Have you driven an old Defender? I have. It's not fun. The gearbox is really not fun. Removing that part of the experience is only a positive. A manual in a car can be fun, sure, not in the least in a manual 911, but with new cars comes tech that undeniable makes old cars look, well, old.

@bendover-bz4bc 3 года назад

I hate this new generation of car community. Bunch of wannabe petroheads who try to devalue every electronics to gain attention. If you are so fond of old classics then go drive vinage cars on indian roads in peak summer.