New VzBoT X Beam

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We made a custom aluminum extrusion to make our new beam. Then CNC for flatness and accurate dimensions :)
X Vz-Beam: s.click.aliexp...
Printers:
-full Vz235 printer kit: s.click.aliexp...
-Full Vz330 printer kit: s.click.aliexp...
Printer Parts:
-X Vz-Beam: s.click.aliexp...
- Waterpump kit I use here: s.click.aliexp...
-240mm Radiator: s.click.aliexp...
-120mm x2 fan: s.click.aliexp...
-Vz-HextrudORT watercooled : s.click.aliexp...
-Goliath watercooled : s.click.aliexp...
-Fly Super 8: s.click.aliexp...
-Drivers s.click.aliexp...
- XY Motors: s.click.aliexp...
-Alu Water cooling blocks: s.click.aliexp...
-Fittings: s.click.aliexp...
-water cooling kit: s.click.aliexp...
-48V PSU: s.click.aliexp...
-CPAP fan: s.click.aliexp...
-CPAP tube: s.click.aliexp...
(complete part list can be found on the BOM list on github link below)
-Eibos filament dryer: s.click.aliexp...
Full VzBoT Printer project: (BOM, cad, stl): github.com/VzB...

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10 сен 2024

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Комментарии : 68

@keezo1234 Год назад

You should consider adding a tiny (

@xsolar Год назад

This is an excellent idea

@Vez3D Год назад

I installed the beam yesterday. when I first read your comment, I thought it was very good idea, but then I installed it, and saw that will all the bolts loose, there is very very minimal play in the rail for aligment. so you either just push the rail back against the bolts or to the front and it will be all aligned, but the play is so minimal that I dont think its even needed. So thtat aligment edge is probably not worth it in my opinion :) oh btw... it made a bigger improvement than I thought :O

@filipporossifavilli68 Год назад

honestly in CNC machines to align the various axes a comparator or a probe is used or recently the laser has taken over (I use easylaser damalini so I also have a printable report) returning to the 3d printer or any artisanal CNC use of one or more comparators cents should be ABC

@benjamin_f_gates Год назад

If you're already making custom extrusion dies, I would look into making small interior corner gussets to allow you to thin the tube walls while maintaining strength. Look up REV Robotics' max tubing for reference

@Mr.Bearded.Mechanic Год назад

You should consider flowdrill/thermal friction drilling instead of regular drilling, this can "add" thread length/thickness and also cold form tap the tread instead of cutting. This way you can get the most out of the lightest and strongest option. Also some viewers mentioned a recess for rails to make sure it is parallel a nice idea (it will depend on the rail size I know). Cool product! I am curious to see how well it works and what resonances the printer should avoid. Keep up the good work!

@ZURAD Год назад

I don't know if flow drilling works on aluminum but it's worth a try

@Tuxedo2680 Год назад

Great work Vez... Re: "groove" I believe the word you're looking for is "ridge"

@ZURAD Год назад

We used custom extrusions on the Powercore! LOVE CUSTOM EXTRUSIONS

@derpw Год назад

I have the black beauty of it. It fits perfect and looks pretty good in my Vzbot. 😊

@nikrider6979 Год назад

Thank you that after the release of this video, the prices for Aliexpress soared for all parts for vzbot

@Vez3D Год назад

no.. price is still 34$ usd.. nothing changed. And normally Mellow talk to me before changing prices.

@aoyisu1653 Год назад

I have this installed on my printer already!

@andreaspoulsen8017 Год назад

Awsum!

@ballbous Год назад

You clearly need another VZbot, a black one so you can keep one close to the kit config while you play with servos or whatever else on the other.

@jzagaja Год назад

how do you convince manufacturers to make loq qty customized product :)

@KlausMichaelKMS Год назад

Looks very nice. Looking forward to your real live test results. Love the 100% Machined look, simply that should make it at last 100% better ;-)

@sabahoudini Год назад

Ah man, I wish this was available for the voron :D

@noanyobiseniss7462 Год назад

Beauty.

@SomeGuyInSandy Год назад

Get yourself some aluminum screws and you are a breath away from weightless!

@createforcuriosity225 Год назад

Oh man you follow my mind, I just made one for my own printer like 5 days agos 😭

@fvheel 8 месяцев назад

Do you have only parts where the belts run through? I mean: Beam, brecket L+R for Beam, Corners for belts? So the complete XY movement of the printer without printhead.

@andreaspoulsen8017 Год назад

What's the next part your gonna try optimizing?

@ShirimeCid Год назад

Géniale comme design!

@jaapweel1 Год назад

when using linear rails do you still need corexy or can you get away with h-bot? h-bot would save some weight...

@Vez3D Год назад

I much prefer corexy over hbot for the way belts are working.

@sergiosolucionesrobledo8995 Год назад

Great, nothing for 400 machine from Tronxy 400?

@8bits955 Год назад

I wonder if we can try some titanium gantry design, they are heavier in turn of density but you should be able to cut a lot more away due to their superior strength compare to aluminium. But their main benefit should be stronger threads for the rails and thermal expansion is less of a concern when paired with stainless steel rails? Ofcourse it will be more expensive for both the raw materials and machining.

@woutervossebeld4664 Год назад

titanium linear rails would be more useful then I think, I did some basic math and even with a 15x15mm 1mm wall tube the bending distance at 20000mm/s^2 is only 0.07mm so the stiffness of the gantry is not an issue. Edit: That is with a 500g hot end in the middle of the beam, worst case scenario basically.

@8bits955 Год назад

@@woutervossebeld4664 yep it would be worth exploring I might try to design one and test one and use my work cnc machine to machine one out see how it goes

@Celciusify Год назад

While titanium is a stronger material, it's worse when looking at strength and stiffness to weight and thermal expansion is worse, it expands about 50% of stainless while Aluminum expands about 33% more. Ofc this depends on what type of alloys you use, but as a general look at it, Titanium isn't a good choice. Now if you're able to make a linear rail out if titanium to match with the gantry, it''s going to work just fine, though you run into the same issue as aluminum rails, it's a "soft" material and longevity will suffer. You can probably use real bearings though on a Ti rail, aluminum rails uses glide bushings and is a joke compared to stainless ones, they bind constantly on a 3d printer. (I've tried lol)

@MrJofArnold Год назад

I've not found thermal expansion an issue. With the machine soaked to 50C I just used two screws to attach the rail (at 1/3 and 2/3 along) and found that gave me very flat results.

@Celciusify Год назад

@@MrJofArnold On a VZbot it might not matter so much as the gantry is relatively short, but I can notice it on my VC3 500 with the standard MGN12 rail and 2020 extrusion. It's definitely not a major issue, but imo it's worth considering.

@bleach_drink_me Год назад

Mgn9 on 330 still with this rail? I have one in my cart .

@michaeld954 Год назад

on regular printers they have an optical encoder to move the print head do you think there would be any benefit if it is used for 3d printing heads perhaps more precision and speed perhaps it can be integrated into the rail it self

@sawo74 29 дней назад

Hi Simon Is this beam only suitable for mgn12 rails? Can mgn9 rails be installed?

@Vez3D 29 дней назад

@sawo74 its mgn9

@mciarlillo1309 Год назад

Can this be made in 622mm length for my RatRig V-Core 500mm lol

@Hunterstoneking 9 месяцев назад

Or my Tonxy x5sa 500mm

@Dwarfgrinder Год назад

Aw man , not first. :P Great new design!

@EduardoSousa-fk6oy Год назад

Awsome

@brandonbell359 Год назад

Are you associated with F3D at all? Been waiting for the 330 beds to come back in stock.

@dibonko Год назад

I didn't get the wrench :(

@woutervossebeld4664 Год назад

Just a quick question, do the lead screws of the Z axis ride on a bearing so they dont fall down with the weight of the bed or are they against the bottom plate of the printer. I looked at your Z axis installation and I dont really get it. Amazing machine man, I am currently designing my own coreXY machine for fun and it's SO much work. Respect!!

@Vez3D Год назад

They are held by a bearing

@landroveraddict2457 Год назад

I was planning to build a Voron 2.4 and purchased a Octopus pro with 6x2209 and two high voltage steppers. Can the Octopus be used on the VzBoT? I really like your approach of a moving Z bed and liquid cooled heat break. My budget is limited to about £70 per month so this is going to take more a year to get everything together. Any comments are welcome thank you.

@Vez3D Год назад

yes you can use an octopus :)

@landroveraddict2457 Год назад

@@Vez3D Thank you how many high voltage stepper drivers would you recommend?

@Dustmuffins Год назад

Is this part of the mellow kit yet or is it still the CF version?

@Vez3D Год назад

still cf but soon to be part of the kits

@3D_Printing Год назад

I don't believe all the material on the linear rails is required, reduce weight

@TheNamelessOne12357 Год назад

Aluminium is light, no point of milling it. You'd better mill rail and carriage, they are much heavier.

@Vez3D Год назад

I dont understand your point here. yeah its light.. but you mill it to have a flat surface to bolt the rail. You mill it to be even lighter, because no point keeping metal where its not needed :) Rail and carriage are not easy to mill.. and have a chance to deform the rail. But we are exploring the idea

@TheNamelessOne12357 Год назад

@@Vez3D Rail and carriage are much heavier than aluminium profile. If you decide to mill than they should be first candidates to reduce weight. Of course, steel is slightly harder to mill, but when difficulties stopped you?

@woutervossebeld4664 Год назад

@@Vez3D maybe titanium rails are an idea, titanium is of similar hardness as steel so it wont deform or wear as quick as aluminium with the bearing balls rolling on the surface, its also a lit lighter.

@floodo1 Год назад

fa real? Nice

@floodo1 Год назад

btw, the English word for that “channel” is “boss”, like the opposite of emboss

@Aethid Год назад

"boss" is not the opposite of "emboss". The "em-" prefix usually means "to do" or "into". The Old French origin of "emboss" is derived from "boce", which is a pertuberence, but English does not use "boss" to mean pertuberence. The word he is looking for is probably "pertuberence" or "ridge", which is the opposite of a "channel".

@floodo1 Год назад

@@Aethid "English does not use 'boss' to mean pertuberence" is incorrect. Search for "boss feature", first result: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_(engineering) "In engineering, a boss is a protruding feature on a work piece."

@floodo1 Год назад

@@Aethid "ridge" is a really good english word for it, i do agree on that (-8

@floodo1 Год назад

@@Aethid PS I wonder if emboss predates the use of boss in engineering?