So I own one of these. It is working fine. While it is working. But its quality is nowhere near as good as SRAM AXS. Things not mentioned in this video: 1) No clutch. None. While it has a strong spring, it would still slap the chainstay and drop the chain once you got on the rocky sections. 2) It has bearings with no rubber seals on it. Water quickly gets inside and turns pulley wheels into squeaky, wobbly mess. And no spare pulley wheels are available. 3) General waterproofing is bad. No rubber seals inside. The whole thing is just glued together. Which might have worked except the battery cover is removable. Water gets inside and oxidizes battery contacts. Discharging the device and ruining the battery. No spare battery is available. So when it comes standard on a ~600$ bike, it is fine. But as a standalone product, it is just too expensive.
Nice first look! It looks well made and Chinese competition against the 2 big Ss is only good for all of us. Very interested to hear your thoughts vs X01 AXS. 👍
Was eyeballing EDS since Seth's(Berm Peak) review. All I can think of are the spare parts, EDS might be cheaper but SRAM comes with convenience of warranty/spare parts.
@@mdaniels292 I wonder if the SRAM Jockey wheels would work on this 🧐 I think those things are usually interchangeable, but I don’t wear out a lot of jockey wheels.
I'll repeat what I said on another channel: the EDS-OX costs almost the same as an electronic GX, and SRAM is going to release the S-1000, which is supposed to be even cheaper. The point is that SRAM has technical support anywhere in the world, and spare parts and stocks spread around the world. In addition to videos and manuals teaching maintenance in detail, where you can find specifications for everything, even the torque of each screw. On the other hand, the EDS-OX does not have spare parts in stock, it does not have trained mechanics, it does not have video tutorials teaching, it does not have a manual talking about screw torque, and it does not have parts in stock anywhere in the world. In short, it is a product that costs almost the same as an electronic GX and is a disposable product because if it breaks, there is no spare parts or how to maintain it. To be worth the risk of the investment, it should be sold for half the price of an electronic GX or less.
@@euzimeumesmo you bring up some valid points. I’ll try to cover some of this in my upcoming SRAM XO1 AXS versus Wheeltop EDS video. The BIG bike companies are always going to be hard to compete with but I still like to see new companies try. The scale and volume of sales SRAM has allows them to control the market. However, I get what you’re saying. I love SRAM drivetrains. The only difference between SRAM AXS XO1 and GX is the weight and EDS weighs about the same as XO1 even with a larger battery on it. Although the EDS battery isn’t removable. Not saying that justifies the price. I do wish the EDS was a little cheaper, which would in turn make it a lot more marketable… more to follow in my AXS versus EDS video…
@@JaredHoff The cost of Wheeltop EDS is really the biggest problem, although it is debatable that SRAM has an advertising machine that in itself generates costs for the company, such as sponsoring athletes and teams and technical courses all over the world. I do not believe that SRAM controls the market because the price of electronic gears is high and SRAM has also filed some patents that also generate extra costs that need to be compensated. Wheeltop EDS does not have the same engineering structure, advertising, sponsorships and courses. In theory, it should be cheaper; see examples in the automotive market.
Sram GX1 AXS is on sale now for $545 and this EDS is also on sale for $535. It doesn't feel like 'unbeatable' price. It feels more like it has a hefty price tag. Am I missing something?
@@YongPark-g3h Derailleur weight is the only functional difference in SRAM's AXS line. X01 weighs 390 grams, and GX weighs 454 grams (battery cover not included). This EDS weighed about the same as XO1 with a larger battery on it. But I’ll be doing a SRAM AXS versus EDS video to really compare the two.
@@EMTBonsai I hear ya. Although, the only difference between SRAM XO1 and GX is the lighter weight. EDS weighs the same as SRAM XO1 AXS, which goes for double the price. That’s why I’m excited to make a SRAM XO1 versus EDS as I think the EDS compares to an XO1 wireless setup pretty well.
Sram and shimano need competition. I want to upgrade my 2023 Trek Rail 9.8 as i dont like the stock gx axs at all. I looked at t type XX models which is only option for Rail due to 34 T ring. But surprize suprize the price is 2500 dollar for the groupset which is an absurdity.
@@downtoridemtb I get why you’d say that but keep in mind that the only difference between the SRAM XO1 AXS and GX AXS is the weight. The EDS weighs the same as the XO1 AXS and even has a larger battery. That’s why I’m comparing the EDS against the XO1
I’m paying the extra for SRAMs reliability and serviceability. Just saying.. something goes wrong, reach out, done… after all it’s my a.. riding my bike.. the older you get the more painful sh.. becomes… 😂
@@andonis851There is one good thing about people like you: thanks to you, we have the opportunity to buy "non-repairable" components for next to nothing.🤣
Now instead of carrying a spare battery, you'll need to carry a spare shifter. And when the battery dies, the lucky owner of this genius product will have to buy a new shifter. I’d like to see who would spend their hard-earned money on "this."
The only thing is that Seth reviewed it a year ago, but now there are no shifters with removable batteries available on the manufacturer's website or on AliExpress.
@@Team81MTB yes initially comes with a default adjustable speed range of 1-12 speeds. However, the WheelTop app allows you to customize gear shifts from 3 to 14 speeds.
@@JaredHoff Wow!! Thanks Man. I'll definitely look into it. I've always used a 10 speed cassette on my mtbs. I have 11 speed and 12 speed laying in boxes. I never used the two large cogs so I just went with a 10 speed. No sense in carrying extra weight I'm not gonna be using. 👍
@@Team81MTB this should work good for that. You just need to make sure you order the right size cage. I think you’d want the medium size cage. Use the link I have in the video and check into that to make sure.
Is it compatible with shimano chains, cassette and chainrings? If it is compatible I would be supper interested in getting one for my Rocky Mountain Altitude.
@@Antoni-cm6wj I get what you’re saying man 👍 I was just excited to try something different and see how it compares to SRAM AXS. I have SRAM AXS XO1 on another bike I have so I’ll be testing/comparing the two soon.
