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@russellwebster1194
@russellwebster1194 5 дней назад
I'd give him about 5 or 10 minutes to pack his shit
@WesBundy82
@WesBundy82 5 дней назад
Lolol.. I love it. ❤
@nirvanajunkie19
@nirvanajunkie19 5 дней назад
The common denominators in all of these coach/GM regimes is the Maras and their relatives are in personnel and scouting. The 70's Giants finally rebuild when Wellington and his nephew completely took their hands off of personnel and turned it over to George Young. I think that kind of self-awareness is needed now more than ever.
@nightow1139
@nightow1139 5 дней назад
You hit it right in the nail
@obamadidyourmom
@obamadidyourmom 5 дней назад
You sir get it! No one is talkin bout the maras. We’ll never be good till they are gone. He was terrified on hard knocks lmao. I fw joe and daboll I think they got the right idea just things haven’t worked out like they were supposed to. Drafts picks mainly.
@johnskibajr5691
@johnskibajr5691 5 дней назад
Exactly right.
@stanfromwestport2024
@stanfromwestport2024 4 дня назад
I'm going opposite...Do a Jerry Jones and have John Mara take complete control...Get a Cowboys-style "War Room" populated by good personnel folks and make the ultimate player/draft decisions through John Mara - with no GM at all. As much a Jerry Jones gets flack, he drafted two HOFers in Lamb & Parsons + he got Dak in 4th Round...MUCH better track record than Giants over the last five years. Plus, after only Week 1, would you rather be the Giants, or the Cowboys right now...??
@nightow1139
@nightow1139 4 дня назад
@@stanfromwestport2024 you make a very valid point there My only argument to that is yes you can talk about all those accolades but when a GM with the mentality of Jerry Jones takes over that would keep a good head coach from really coming in because now that owner wants to stay in control and wants a coach that's a yes man and that can cause the organization to continue to hire not so good coaches and if you look at the cowboys track record they haven't had any really good coaches in the last few few years because the ones that did get hired or yes men to Jerry Jones
@michaelruggiero8922
@michaelruggiero8922 5 дней назад
This team cannot get better until we have another quarterback. This is another wasted year.
@yusefimmanuel6377
@yusefimmanuel6377 5 дней назад
You are wrong. This whole team is trash it's more than a QB
@rick50150
@rick50150 5 дней назад
Not completely wrong ,but these new QB's arent that great tho.
@mlucky952
@mlucky952 5 дней назад
Then when we draft one is gonna be a growing pain for the first year.
@rick50150
@rick50150 5 дней назад
@@mlucky952 that's why you have scouts.
@ebayer4life980
@ebayer4life980 5 дней назад
@@yusefimmanuel6377nope it’s 99% qb
@TheAkira1994
@TheAkira1994 5 дней назад
Joe Schoen has missed on too many draft picks, He also miss handled the Daniel jones situation by giving him big contract instead of tagging him. He also didn't evaluate this team properly he should of went in with a mind set of a complete rebuild but chose to just revamp the team. The correct thing to do was to do a complete rebuild by trading Saquan and letting daniel jones go and tanking for a good Qb. He defiantly needs to be on the HOT seat.
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
Schoen was an idiot he didn't pick up his 5th year option on DJ, that was the start of his nonsense!!
@eyz-4
@eyz-4 4 дня назад
it's easy to say those moves in hindsight but at the time the locker room would have revolted coming off of a playoff win. the fans would be calling for their jobs as well.
@Summithockeyc20
@Summithockeyc20 5 дней назад
Name one decision he has made that improved the NYG
@Thagomizer-U235
@Thagomizer-U235 5 дней назад
Hiring Dabol
@Summithockeyc20
@Summithockeyc20 5 дней назад
@@Thagomizer-U235 he is 15-19-1 as our head coach and losing the plot, firing staff and calling horrible plays. Puts his feet on the table like he’s somebody, give me a break
@simonz5002
@simonz5002 5 дней назад
@@Summithockeyc20he hasn’t had a chance to draft his own QB, has had an AWFUL cap situation to work with, and yall are calling for him to get fired after week one? No wonder everyone laughs and hates our fanbase. Give it up dude.
@thatoneguy1232
@thatoneguy1232 5 дней назад
@@Thagomizer-U235after the 7-2 start in 2022 we have since won 8 games
@thatoneguy1232
@thatoneguy1232 5 дней назад
@@simonz5002HE CHOSE HIS QUARTERBACK! Daniel Jones IS his quarterback
@frankscheno8042
@frankscheno8042 5 дней назад
If you give 40 million dollars a year to Daniel jones you should be in jail, forget fired
@Larant88
@Larant88 5 дней назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@conservativeguy9329
@conservativeguy9329 5 дней назад
For me, I am losing faith in Daboll. Back to back opening game loses with a team that was flatter than two days old soda. I saw many red flags in Daboll last year, so far, some of those red flags are still there.
@stanfromwestport2024
@stanfromwestport2024 4 дня назад
100%...Daboll's teams are NOT PREPARED....at least for an actual NFL game
@JoeMarotta-q5b
@JoeMarotta-q5b 5 дней назад
I think that we should keep our GM and Head Coach and move the franchise to the XFL where they might have a chance to be competitive. I checked with the IVY League and they won't take the Giants. Too bad. I thought that would be a perfect landing spot for the NY Giants.
@hard2fathom1
@hard2fathom1 5 дней назад
LOL 🤣
@paulmysliborski4832
@paulmysliborski4832 5 дней назад
Lmao! Nice one, Joe!
@josediaz021180
@josediaz021180 5 дней назад
Joe Schoen said how could anyone possibly mess up picks 5 and 7. He choose a LT in Evan Neal to be his RT. This ain't Madden Joe. He also already choose his QB when he decided to resign Jones. Time to clean house. I don't see why restarting would be a problem. Schoen and Dabol took their team to the playoffs in the first year. Who's to say a new regime couldn't do the same?
@FRANTHESCRAM
@FRANTHESCRAM 5 дней назад
Not drafting a QB in a QB rich class tells me all I need to know with this rookie GM
@gmabailey40
@gmabailey40 4 дня назад
The fans were crying for a better line and a WR lmao. Now you want to turn it around and blame the GM. It was all over every Giant video. People constantly said Jones would win the SB and be a HOF player.
@RealRobbyRobb
@RealRobbyRobb 5 дней назад
It’s not about Schoen’s drafting. Functionally he hasn’t been good at his job. He decline Daniel Jones’ 5th year contract that forced him into paying him $160M He traded valuable picks for Brian Burns despite knowing you need to trade up for Drake Maye He is still starting Daniel Jones in 2024, that’s already fireable, and his best idea for a backup is “drew lock” This year he waited until 5 days before the season to sign his CB2 Both his top 10 picks from 3 years ago have been benched He was a brand new GM who was an experimental hire, he’s failed. He still doesn’t know if Daniel Jones is a franchise QB, he’s lost
@gmabailey40
@gmabailey40 4 дня назад
Mara is in love with Jones. Its no elses fault. Like Deball and the GM said before they came in that they were gonna evaluate the QB situation. Than after being in the building for one day they said Jones was the starter. Deboll needs a decent QB at least. I dont want to see him leave.
@KevinLopez-np8qm
@KevinLopez-np8qm 5 дней назад
Joe is fired by week 4
@RealRobbyRobb
@RealRobbyRobb 5 дней назад
Trusting Joe Schoen to draft your QB of the future is Malpractice
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
I wouldn't, trust Schoen to walk my dog
@kenpeters8184
@kenpeters8184 5 дней назад
If the Giants go 3-14 there is no way everyone isn't fired. Remember Mara said you can go from Bono to Bozo and we are now there
@rickpolidore5054
@rickpolidore5054 5 дней назад
Schoen not only took over a bad situation…he then proceeded to make it even worse!
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
YEP!!!
@doomb42
@doomb42 5 дней назад
Please fire Joe schoen and promote Brandon brown before he gets poached by another team!
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr 5 дней назад
@@doomb42 if you don’t trust Joe, go root for the other team
@sirdapperdan2209
@sirdapperdan2209 5 дней назад
@@michaeljohnson-ug4grbro nobody trusts Joe 💀💀 you're not a fan if you still want him lol that just means you want the giants to stay garbage
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 5 дней назад
@@michaeljohnson-ug4grWhat has he done to earn any trust? He has been horrible. Worse that Gettleman and that is saying a lot
@supervader6028
@supervader6028 5 дней назад
⁠@@michaeljohnson-ug4grhe let saquon walk and paid dj 160 million why would we trust his dumbass
@austinwhalen8217
@austinwhalen8217 5 дней назад
@@jcsquared1111 no tf he is not 😂
@johnniep405
@johnniep405 5 дней назад
Joe Schoen hasn't made a good move in 3 years. He has made big mistakes, bad trades, bad picks.
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
He did sign GETTLEMAN"S picks, Thomas and Lawrence to long term deals!!!
@generalimlerith8356
@generalimlerith8356 5 дней назад
Yep he let saqyon walk Mara said he didn’t want I bet Mara is proly very pissed at him right now lol
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr 5 дней назад
In 2022 the Giants were trying to sign Saquon three times he didn’t want to pay you. He don’t wanna be a giant for life so he lied.
@362chop
@362chop 5 дней назад
No Need to tie up money on a 28 year old back. That was wise.
@generalimlerith8356
@generalimlerith8356 5 дней назад
@@michaeljohnson-ug4gr should of traded him outta division beforehand I feel schoen didn’t make good decisions
@generalimlerith8356
@generalimlerith8356 5 дней назад
@@362chop letting him land in Philly wasn’t a wise choice lol
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr 5 дней назад
@@generalimlerith8356 well it’s not his fault. He tried to let him stay as a giant, but the money is always the issue remember in 2022 we was trying to sign him three times didn’t wanna pay so it’s not the Giants for I wouldn’t blame Saquon for not paying it
@jeffzhou1475
@jeffzhou1475 5 дней назад
Honestly, he might be a worst drafter than Gettleman
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
Not even a question, Gettleman >>>>>>>> Schoen as a drafter
@aboucard93
@aboucard93 5 дней назад
Already?! The man had 3 drafts. It took Howie Rosen two drafts to bring the Eagles back to the Super Bowl
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
Good Point!!, and the forsight to take a chance on Saquan!!
@CynthiaGeorgette
@CynthiaGeorgette 5 дней назад
Hopefully they learned their lesson and starters will play part of every preseason game
@_Kresley
@_Kresley 5 дней назад
I'm sorry, but Scheon isn't a good GM, get him out after this year. Promote Brandon Brown
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr 5 дней назад
Cap 🧢
@doomb42
@doomb42 5 дней назад
Agree 10000%
@_Kresley
@_Kresley 5 дней назад
@@michaeljohnson-ug4grI'm curious to see your side, what has Joe Scheon done that will make him keep his job if we stay like this through out the year?
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr 5 дней назад
@@_Kresley bro, he rebuild this whole organization . Through bad cap space bad drafting bad coaching
@doomb42
@doomb42 5 дней назад
@@michaeljohnson-ug4grhe rebuilt this team into the amazing playoff bound team you saw play Sunday?
@D00rGunner
@D00rGunner 5 дней назад
I think a lot of fans feel that they are moving backwards and not forward
@NJDevil1982
@NJDevil1982 5 дней назад
Hate all this turnover and lack of stability but if the guys you have aren’t getting it done, what choice do you have?
@irishvirus8011
@irishvirus8011 5 дней назад
I mean letting SB and X walk because they overpaid on DJ is a big issue. Most of his draft picks suck too. If they just tagged DJ or a much cheaper contract would've been much better off with keeping SB and X. Also what on earth was he doing this offseason not looking for a solid CB in FA.
@jimboscooter432
@jimboscooter432 5 дней назад
Giving DJ that contract is a fireable offense 🤣
@kingfulness
@kingfulness 5 дней назад
@@jimboscooter432not giving him it is a fireable offense, if Jefferson gets hurt and doesn’t play another snap it would’ve been a horrible contract but at the time the majority would’ve done it
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 5 дней назад
​@@kingfulness Majority. Speak for yourself.
@tonyb460
@tonyb460 5 дней назад
@irishvirus- if you were a good corner on the free agent market, would you want to go play for the giants?? I'm not trying to talk shit. I'm a San francisco giants fan and it fukn sucks that nobody wants to go play there. The team has offered top money to the biggest free agents out there and the players just use them as a bargaining chip to up their price. Aaron judge who's from nor-cal didn't even wanna go play there for the same money. Ohtani flirted with them but went to their biggest rival. Bryce harper did the see thing. Damn now I'm all pissed about about my sf giants!
@357twilson
@357twilson 5 дней назад
Daniel Jones has thrown 2 touchdowns since he signed the big contract extension. That is reason to fire Schoen. You add that with the bad draft picks and it’s a no brainer.
@HBGarcia646
@HBGarcia646 5 дней назад
Fire the WHOLE FRONT OFF STAFF WITH HIM, HIS WHOLE CREW, they looked so lost on hard knocks let alone know anything about good players, I was pissed with them every fucking episode!!!
@peterpalleschi634
@peterpalleschi634 5 дней назад
This is not Buffalo. You have a GM that hires an assistant coach to be a premier franchise head coach. Schoen needs to be fired and this fake coach. Mr Mara and Tisch either sell the team or step back about 50 yards and let Belichik take over. He’s the only one that can turn this franchise around
@guesswho-sx8ec
@guesswho-sx8ec 3 дня назад
If you watched hard knocks off-season with the giants....their was a clip that was really telling. It is when John Mara said, "if saquon goes to Philadelphia I will not be able to sleep at night" Right then and there that's the boss telling you, you better resign that player, whatever you have to do. The G.M. doesn't read the room. When your boss is literally telling you what to do, you do it. That's what is going to get him fired. You don't want your boss, not being able to sleep at night. So yes, he will probably be fired at the end of the year.
@CookieMonster-we1in
@CookieMonster-we1in 5 дней назад
One of the most honest takes ive heard. This is the content we all deserve. The problem with schoen is that he brought in people and players he was familiar with from buffalo for the most part instead of building a team with the right parts. Most of the personel he brought from buffalo are mediocre at best. Josh allen gave a lot of management and coaches jobs around the league.
@stanfromwestport2024
@stanfromwestport2024 4 дня назад
1000%....The Josh Allen coattails are long with a lot of people hanging on to them...Only problem for all those people leaving BUF after Josh Allen-led success is, none of them were able to bring Josh Allen with them...!!
@nkb5544
@nkb5544 5 дней назад
Joe Schoen should be on the hot seat right along with Daboll. They need to be competitive and the Giants are NOT!
@rick50150
@rick50150 5 дней назад
I don't think they'll fire the GM just yet. Jones needs to go thats without saying. Giants weren't winning that many games with Barkley let alone a deep run to the play offs. Once Jones and the entire coaching staff is fired Giants will be in a better place.
@CynthiaGeorgette
@CynthiaGeorgette 5 дней назад
Thanks Baddog for the podcast. I am a daily listener. Will always be a fan of this team but it is getting hard to watch. I’m afraid this year will be worse than last year. I really hope I’m wrong. Either way definitely need a new QB. And if we’re that bad Daboll and maybe Schoen will be gone.
@Albert-zk9bz
@Albert-zk9bz 5 дней назад
thibs & Neal picks he was sorta smug about those picks.. Burns is a mirror of thibs
@obamadidyourmom
@obamadidyourmom 5 дней назад
Outside linebackers are not ends. Lol this is the main problem. They’re smaller and probably not as strong. However they have speed lol. Unless you’re watt parsons or crosby, olb on the edge never truly pans out for a stout d line. Kayvon is trash.
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 5 дней назад
and whiffed on both. Thibbs was getting man handled out there last week lol
@H5000-zb2rw
@H5000-zb2rw 5 дней назад
@@jcsquared1111 Thibodeaux coudldn't handle popwarner OLINEMAN!!
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 5 дней назад
@@H5000-zb2rw It was truly embarrising that tape. And if he dont pan out that is franchise killing whiffing on not 1 bit 2 top 10 picks
@akeen176
@akeen176 5 дней назад
At one point this past Sunday Neal and KT were both benched. Hyatt was nowhere to be found. The waller trade was a disaster. Burns did zilch his first game. Yeah, he's on the hot seat. I'm sick to my stomach mara may have whiffed on the GM selection, again
@alfredmasullo
@alfredmasullo 5 дней назад
Bring back Bill Belichick as GM and HC.
@Larant88
@Larant88 5 дней назад
💯
@stanfromwestport2024
@stanfromwestport2024 4 дня назад
Too old, too cranky and lost w/o Brady
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 4 дня назад
You’re delusional. He’s cooked and Tom Brady ain’t walking through that door.
@AmazingGuy13
@AmazingGuy13 5 дней назад
You can't say that Schoen has done a good job three years in from bad drafting to bad trades like Waller and maybe Burns to letting Snakequon walk for nothing to the Eagles.
@blazinrounds230
@blazinrounds230 5 дней назад
@@AmazingGuy13 he didn’t let saquan walk. He turned down several contracts. He rebuilt the line from dead last last Sean to being ranked #10 last week. Burns and thib have played 1 game together. Most of these starters either didn’t play at all or only played 2 quarters all of pre season. The offense couldn’t keep the defense off the field by extending drives and scoring points. Schoen HAS done a good job with the time he’s been given. He need to be allowed to correct the QB situation. You know is damn well John Mara’s fingerprints were all over that Jones contract.
@TheTonyddd1
@TheTonyddd1 5 дней назад
and there's that ridiculous contract!!!!
@jasonrichardsondvi177
@jasonrichardsondvi177 5 дней назад
@@blazinrounds230thank you. I swear NY giants fans are so damn impatient. And they have overblown how “bad” Schoen has been. He hasn’t been bad at all.
@nextin_dabuilding2908
@nextin_dabuilding2908 5 дней назад
​@@jasonrichardsondvi177He hasn't been good
@jasonrichardsondvi177
@jasonrichardsondvi177 5 дней назад
@@nextin_dabuilding2908 the giants haven’t been good for a while now. And you can’t help but blame Daniel Jones this team is demoralized every time there on the field.
@hard2fathom1
@hard2fathom1 5 дней назад
As ridiculous as Gettleman getting four years was, I do think some of that was Mara looking at Gettleman's first run with the Giants as the reason for him having more leeway than was deserved. You can see from hard knocks that Schoen is not a yes man. Mara is more frustrated with him, and he also doesn't have any good will built up from prior winning that Gettleman had built up when he was working under Reese.
@1958yankeefan
@1958yankeefan 5 дней назад
Already? Being on the hot seat is overdue for this guy! His handling of the Jones contract was amateur hour! He should have paid Barkley in 2023 and tagged Jones! Then when he got injured they could have moved on from Jones and got their QB in the draft! Instead, he gives Jones 80 million guaranteed dollars. If as an NFL GM he wasn’t smart enough to recognize and acknowledge that making the playoffs was luck, and that they beat a horrible Viking Defense in the playoff game, and it wasn’t Jones “finally reaching his potential” , then he has no clue and no business being an NFL GM! My god, just a week later in Philly the real Jones was horrible! A smart GM puts the emphasis on the loss against the good D not the padded stats against a horrible one. But hey, this is the Giants we’re talking about! This is the same front office that forced out their two time SB winning HC and replaced him with an imbecile who benched their two time SB MVP winning QB, and taking a shit on and ending his iron man streak!!!
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant 3 дня назад
John Mara stipulated that his new GM and head coach must retain Daniel Jones so Shoen and Daboll knew what they were doing in accepting the jobs.
@goodeatzentertainment1415
@goodeatzentertainment1415 5 дней назад
Bro in 2022 I was Begging the Giants to sign Adam Peters or Ryan Poles but instead they decided to go with Joe Schoen🤦🏾‍♂️
@miguelcintron7048
@miguelcintron7048 5 дней назад
Imagine being happy with a GM that gave Jones 3 years to play it’s fan base into therapy
@kenpeters8184
@kenpeters8184 5 дней назад
Malik Nabors, Deonte Banks, Kayvon Thibodeaux, Tyler Nubin, John Michael Schmitz, Evan Neal, Andru Phillips, Jalin Hyatt, Wan'Dale Robinson, Theo Johnson, Eric Gray, Joshua Ezeudu, Tyrone Tracy, Trey Hawkins, Cordale Flott, Darius Muasau, Jordan Riley ,Daniel Bellinger, Gervarrius Owens, Dane Belton, Micah McFadden, DJ Davidson, Marcus McKaethan, Darrian Beavers 24 Picks and who's the AllPro? Nabors eventually? I see the excuses and apologists are shifting from DJ to Shoen
@Glacien3
@Glacien3 5 дней назад
Stop making excuses for keeping bad executives and coaches. they suck at acquiring and developing talent
@brandonsmith4327
@brandonsmith4327 5 дней назад
Oh if he doesn't turn around he'll get fired. He embarrassed the owner on Hardknocks.
@thatoneguy1232
@thatoneguy1232 5 дней назад
Until further notice Gettleman is better than Schoen. As much as I want to tank, I can’t do it. These guys have to step up for Joe’s sake. I believe he chose his quarterback already which was the worst football decision of my life. Yes, worse than Watson imo. At least Watson WAS good. Jones never was. But if Joe wants a shot at correcting this horrible wrong and draft a qb then these guys that he picked and signed has to step up because it looks like Joe is incompetent at the moment. I look at other teams. I look at competent teams. The Texans, Lions, Bengals, Packers, dear I say it? I won’t but you know. All these other guys have successful turnarounds. Why are we so bad? And look at the IMMEDIATE impact some other teams draft picks be having. Why can’t we have that? Why do we always need to wait? I don’t understand it. And I am patient believe it or not! I am giving these guys 3-4 years much like I gave even Jones. But why is everything so hard and slow for us? Not only does it feel completely different watching the Giants pretend to play football, but it’s also different watching them manage the organization. It’s a different sport! I hate it.
@lixmedina
@lixmedina 5 дней назад
joe schoen is incredibly confident in what he doesn't know. Joe Schoen: We’re not paying Daniel Jones $40 million to hand off to a $12 million back. he'd get fired for this alone. you can wait two more years to fire him. I have seen enough. it's been over a decade. I don't understand the you can';t keep firing. why? now, watching dabolls attitude towards the questions and his weak play calling, fire him to. long enough. I want Brooklyns own Brian Flores. he's shown he can build a team and win in this league.
@ethanrich7090
@ethanrich7090 5 дней назад
He didn't win with Miami and his tenure was filled with issues.
@captainamerica3074
@captainamerica3074 5 дней назад
Let's not get crazy..... we should see how this season truns out.
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 5 дней назад
They need to fire all their scouts. They haven't picked any good players at all.
@paulmysliborski4832
@paulmysliborski4832 5 дней назад
I have said since Schoen was hired that we needed to give him 4 years. That said, I have not seen much improvement in the team in his 2 seasons and 3 drafts.
@hecks_b_rex
@hecks_b_rex 5 дней назад
This organization is a joke! My Sundays will be spent doing other things. F this team, so many holes in this team! We are light years away from being a playoff team!😒
@justinchimento5654
@justinchimento5654 5 дней назад
These comments act like you can turn around a football team overnight. This isn't basketball where one good player can make one of the worst teams into one of the best you have to build a roster of 53 men to make a good team not say 11 of a basketball team. Just give Joe a couple more years and let him draft us a QB
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 5 дней назад
Go ask the Texans fans if 1 good player can turn 1 of the worst teams into 1 of the best.
@justinchimento5654
@justinchimento5654 5 дней назад
​@@TrollKing2781they had the tools in place and had a new coach as well or did you forget about that? Most of these teams that go from crap to great in one season usually changed a coach and added one or two weapons we had a shit o line, shit receivers, a shit QB, an always injured RB and a shit secondary when they took over. We had no consistent weapons we had to literally do a complete rebuild.
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 5 дней назад
​​​​​​@@justinchimento5654 2020-4 wins. 2021-4 wins. 2022-3 wins. 2023-10 wins & a playoff victory. Please Bro, just stop it. You sound idiotic. Texans were even worse than the Giants. Not anymore.
@d.l.8016
@d.l.8016 5 дней назад
Letting Saquon walk is a fire-able offense!!
@mt_baldwin
@mt_baldwin 5 дней назад
If the Giants "earn" the number one or number two overall pick, then they should do a clean sweep of the organization, fire the entire front office, coaching staff and cut the QB. Let the new GM start over fresh. Sure 4 years to let a GM build a team, but if at the end of year 3 the team is the worst or second worst team in the league, then that GM has had their chance.
@diegoe9173
@diegoe9173 5 дней назад
We only played one game, and it feels like an entire season went by. We're literally picking up right where we left off. Personally I'm 50/50 on firing Joe Schoen but lets see how the rest of the season goes.
@mr.mayorr7793
@mr.mayorr7793 5 дней назад
He is not a good drafter and that is the biggest problem with him
@deenice7754
@deenice7754 5 дней назад
The 1 constant with all of the losing is Jones. Move off of him and the evaluate everyone else.
@gmoneyslotmachinevideos
@gmoneyslotmachinevideos 5 дней назад
Well said baddog, all these Giants fans that are calling for Joe Schoen to be fired are very quick to forget about gettleman and how he was our worst gm ever!
@lloydguilliams8329
@lloydguilliams8329 5 дней назад
I think when you have a good quater back the players will play their hardest
@aldosanchez374
@aldosanchez374 5 дней назад
This team might not get a win till November that's crazy.smh
@bluekai85
@bluekai85 5 дней назад
Yes, he did not properly evaluate DJ and drafted poorly so far. He did clean the salary mess, and get maybe top three pick next year. Those will be wonderful for next GM, lol
@AmazingGuy13
@AmazingGuy13 5 дней назад
I love how the reactionary fans continue to act like Daniel Jones is the only problem. That it's all his fault...
@TrollKing2781
@TrollKing2781 5 дней назад
On offense, the majority of the giants issues are his fault.
@stanfromwestport2024
@stanfromwestport2024 4 дня назад
Schoen botched five BIG things: 1) Saquon departure 2) Re-signing Jones for $140 mil 3) OL he "improved" in the off-season did not impress in opener 4) Except for jury still out on Malik Nabers, draft picks turned out to be shaky, at best, and could be busts for the most part in another year or two 5) AND THE BIG ONE - he came off like an incompetent on Hard Knocks and actually embarrassed the NYG Org and John Mara personally + If we continue to suck as bad as Week 1 (or worse), he's out for sure
@OwenJennings-c3n
@OwenJennings-c3n 5 дней назад
Carl Banks head coach
@christiansilverio9404
@christiansilverio9404 5 дней назад
Few thoughts; Evan Neal has to be one of the most unexpected bust in recent memory. Literally everyone thought he would at least be a starting level LT at this level and up until now he looks completely lost. Another thought, Joe Scheon messed up the second he took the job and didn’t use the 5th year option on Jones’s rookie contract. If he had done that he would have been able to lock up Barkley long term. They had nothing to lose using that fifth year option and he picked not to. That’s on him
@noneedforaname8808
@noneedforaname8808 5 дней назад
The common denominator with basement teams is a revolving door of the gm and coaching staff. The expectations of how quickly a team can be turned around doesn't align with the constructs of the league to build a team. You can't turn around a 53 man roster in 1 year with 9 draft picks and free agency. If it was that easy then every team would .500 and every game would decided by 1 point.
@Martin0616
@Martin0616 5 дней назад
Schoen's revamped O-line gave up 5 sacks, 12 QB hits, 5 TFL (5 sacks x 17 games = 85 sacks - same as last year!). G-Men D had 1 sack and 2 QB hits... geez. RBs had 45 rushing yards. Shoen and Daboll should have been gone last year! There has already been plenty of coaching turnover - The turmoil starts at the top!
@BrutalShoG
@BrutalShoG 5 дней назад
I'll be fair with Joe . First year he didn't have his full scouting staff set yet. Wandale, McFadden and Bellinger were good picks though. There are huge misses on Ezeudu and Neal, but I also put that on coaching. They were broken in the first year. I'll wait on Thibs until the end of the season to give my final grade on him. Last year's draft got us 2 key starters in Banks & JMS. Only time will tell how that class ends up. His biggest flaw is not drafting a late-round QB to have Dabs develop. I understand 100% we have needs everywhere but there should have been a contingency plan knowing DJ's health. Joe will get another 2 years.
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 5 дней назад
As he should. He said up front the rebuild was a multi year project. As rebuilds tend to be.
@mtrabuscio
@mtrabuscio 3 дня назад
Dallas wanted Neil, most GMs would have wanted Neil on draft night. Neil was a very surprising bust.
@mtrabuscio
@mtrabuscio 3 дня назад
I say no matter what, we keep Joe and Brain. We can't keep changing every 2-3 years. Get then a QB next year
@BigTossKaboom
@BigTossKaboom 4 дня назад
I’d give him another year. I think it’s more on player development. He hasn’t had many bad picks necessarily, they just haven’t panned out. Thibedoux and Hutchinson were the best pass rusher in that class and Neal was a “pro ready” lineman. Who else should he have taken? Not like he picked Toney or 5 LBs like gettleman/judge did
@michaelprunty3104
@michaelprunty3104 5 дней назад
Daboll and Schoen shouldn’t be fired unless Belichick wants the job. And I think he will want to coach the Giants.
@fiskviciousgiants
@fiskviciousgiants 5 дней назад
He's been trying to get rid of Danny since he got here. This ain't his fault dog it's ALL DANNY'S FAULT. He's playing like a bonafied scrub "Stephen a voice"
@OwenJennings-c3n
@OwenJennings-c3n 5 дней назад
Bill B,former Giant good track record
@BIGBLUEGMEN
@BIGBLUEGMEN 5 дней назад
1. The Giants might be a playoff team with a competent QB. Look how Tyrod and Devito played. 2. Daboll took a bum like DJ to the playoffs. If he calls a bad play the 6th year QB should, I don't know audible? 3. Evan Neal gave up two sacks last year with a QB that consistently holds on to the ball too long. 4. So are we now regretting signing Jones when everyone else said what other option was there. 5. Joe Schoen didn't take over a bad situation. Once Golloday fell off the Giants were good but this idiot signed a bum QB to a 40M contract, and a 10 sack guy in Burns to a 20 plus million dollar contract. 6. Joe could have literally paid to bring Barkley and XM back. Saved the money on Lock and drafted a QB and picked up another LB for the defensive coordinator. 7. Joe Schoen the really sleep Joe needs to be fired ASAP FOR POOR CONTRACT MANAGEMNT.
@dannyduds1058
@dannyduds1058 3 дня назад
Daniel Jones has been a waste since being OVERDRAFTED in 2019
@mitogaming101
@mitogaming101 5 дней назад
I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG, NO ONE IN THESE COMMENT SECTIONS WOULD BELIEVE ME. In the 2022 offseason I knew he was the worst gm, I said he will be fired but all these Giants fans were like "bro what are u talking about" "he is the best" He made zero moves every offszn. I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG. Wit the darren waller trade, to paying jones not our best player, to trading for burns that does nothing, to drafting errors like players that always get cut every preszn, to a poor roster for daboll to work on. I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
@TheSportsCritic
@TheSportsCritic 4 дня назад
he is terrible for extending Daniel Jones and letting saquon walk
@parispolatidis2601
@parispolatidis2601 5 дней назад
I actually think the problem is with Daboll, not Schoen. I truly believe that Daboll has a strong personality and that his strength is creating a united locker room. However, his play calling is just atrocious. Every single play is either a short rinky dink pass or a run. We NEVER air the ball out deep. The play calling also lacks any creativity and never utilizes our wide receivers. I think Schoen has actually drafted some solid players like Hyatt, Nabers, and Wandale they are just never utilized. Very frustrating to watch this play calling every weekend.
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 5 дней назад
He’s the outside hire you wanted, folks! Remember? 2021? Begged and pleaded for a rebuild and outside hire? You asked for it!
@BigClep1
@BigClep1 5 дней назад
At this point I wouldnt be surprised if Schoen and Dabol both get fired and DJ is given one more year to prove himself
@geraldbeasley
@geraldbeasley 5 дней назад
Will McClay Cowboys Draft Picks on another level. His low RDS. are better than Schoen top picks
@GrizzlySzn
@GrizzlySzn 5 дней назад
Ill keep Daboll over Joe! I promise you Joe is the problem! Daboll didn't want saquan to leave and all that weight loss was him stressing about saquan
@bobtis
@bobtis 5 дней назад
His draft picks have not really done much. I think100%. Jones will be forever hated and responsible for this mess. Keeping him was a big mistake. Coach would go B4 he does. He is very iffy. New Coach would be a must.
@43captrexkramer
@43captrexkramer 5 дней назад
My issues are as I've stated before can't let a starting safety walk 3 straight years Peppers, Love, and McKinney and then talk of concerns about the secondary. Then address O-line with questionable talent and expect upgrade in play, remember Andrew Whitworth wanted to come here and Gettleman passed. Bengals let him walk because of age but he would have been better than any of the assclowns we've signed the last several years. As for your point in bringing in another GM, apply that to Saquon, he went to a team that is ready to contend right now whereas right now we're staring down the barrel of another dreadful season.
@tfrench4366
@tfrench4366 5 дней назад
If you want the revolving door to continue, then cut him loose. A lot of the draft picks many fans loved. It's easy to be an arm chair QB and say now his draft class sucks. The whole SB nightmare is not because they didn't try to sign him. The GM and coach need more time. I'd give them 5 years. Let them get their own QB and then 2 years to make it work.
@jameswilliams3310
@jameswilliams3310 5 дней назад
Just to remind Giants fans Schoen DID NOT draft Josh Allen that was Brandon Beane!!! But Schoen did draft Casper aka Kayvon the friendly pass rusher!!! 👻👻👻🤣🤣
@davidhealey3138
@davidhealey3138 5 дней назад
The team made the playoffs in 2022 and is definitely improved. Schoen and Daboll deserve to draft/develop their own QB
@TommyRibs
@TommyRibs 5 дней назад
Lets see how they do this season. I still think Schoen and Daboll are the right guys. Daniel Jones sucks, they didn't draft him, and the rumor is that it is Mara is the one that wanted to give Jones the deal, not Schoen and Daboll. Has he been perfect, no? But he needs time. We have to give these guys time. Keep building the team, and then find the QB. Next year is the year to draft the QB. Ewers or Beck HAS to be a GIANT next year.
@goodeatzentertainment1415
@goodeatzentertainment1415 5 дней назад
8:15 The problem is we have a team full of Teddy Bears & they are scared to speak up about Daniel Jones
@ZackAttack5858
@ZackAttack5858 5 дней назад
I need to see his QB draft pick before I'm ready to judge him. No one can win, look good, or be truly evaluated when Daniel Jones is your starting QB. He goes first, then we will see about Schoen and Daboll.
@newjerseyjustin
@newjerseyjustin 5 дней назад
people saying fire joe schoen aren’t real fans and it’s pathetic
@BradleyRMarion
@BradleyRMarion 4 дня назад
The reason the team looks like it’s regressing is because no one believes DJ can win the game. Very hard for a defense to perform knowing the offense will throw a pick 6 more often than a TD. They cannot rally behind a leader like that
@prestigeshogun1534
@prestigeshogun1534 5 дней назад
For the last year or so, I’ve believed Joe Schoen was one of the more overrated GMs. He isn’t terrible, but he hasn’t hit on his draft picks, gave Jones a big contract and let Barkley walk, not really building a great roster. I personally believe he should get a chance with Daboll to restart with their own QB, but Jones could very well cost them both their jobs.
@OZWizard
@OZWizard 5 дней назад
If GIANTS lose this weekend, you have to sit Daniel Jones, give our backup QB's chances to see who is capable and also Mara has to make some calls to Bill Billicheck as new Head Coach and John Gruden as Offensive Coordinator. Keep Schoen but fire Daboll.
@BasilOgno
@BasilOgno 5 дней назад
All these first round busts and letting Barkley go...wtf why is he still here...
@Anthony2X19
@Anthony2X19 5 дней назад
The irony of Joe Shoen being next on the blame train 😂😂
@ianbrennan6260
@ianbrennan6260 5 дней назад
This falls strictly on coaching. I know people think DJ is horrible. Reality is that DJ would be a serviceable backup and we see all the time that even with backups coaches can get these guys to put points on the board . We saw it all of last year when 20% of starting QBs were hurt. They still put up points. Dabol has to wake tf up.
@BlackIce540
@BlackIce540 5 дней назад
Gettleman was better and did more in a shorter time frame. He drafted all of the guys we made the playoffs with. Gentleman couldn’t pick a coach, he drafted better than Schoen 100%. Schoen got rid of Barkley, Gettleman got rid of OBJ. Gettleman drafted well tho! Andrew Thomas, Dex, Saquon, Jones etc. Schoen got Darren Waller, drafted Neal, let Barkley walk, didn’t give DJ 5th year option and then paid him 40 mill per year. It seems like Schoen doesn’t have a plan or know what he’s doing build wise.
@scottshields7726
@scottshields7726 3 дня назад
Honestly, after a couple of years, at least one unit should be where you want it. We have neither
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