You are. Although there are some modern and very nice stations in NY, far too many are left to rot with only enough money distributed to keep them functioning.
@@limedickandrew6016, many older stations have been renovated and cleaned as well. But, yes, many are still in a rotten states. In America the government has long prioritized the automobiles and the highways on which they drive. Public transportation is given a back seat, and the transit-dependent New York has been struggling with this over the past fifty years. Yet, claiming that NY subway overall is like a public toilet is simply not true.
Back in 2000 I had a very good job offer from a company, which occupied 4 floors in one of the Twin Towers. I went to NY on an H1B visa and after a month or so I decided to come back to Russia.I realized that I would not trade Moscow for New York for all money in the world!
Once I spent entire week just driving around exploring different stations. Some of them are boring, some are like museums, some are leaking 😅. None are decrepit or dirty.
Grand central looks fine. problem is however that in Moscow subway EVERY station has unique look and really well maintained. You can not say that they took best looking station in Moscow and took worst looking in NYC. It would be quite opposite if you took Grand central you would take best NYC to average Moscow station and still comparison might not be in NYC advantage. Trains are modern. Internet connection is NOT lost when train is in a tunnel. Chargers are at almost every seat.
@@65rdjr The situation here is the same as always. You have half of the stations located on the surface, and a lot of stations are just parallel. You have the same thing with railways, formally they are longer, but in fact, they are 4 roads running parallel to each other
Moscow train system is not only subway it also includes City Train lines so in total it will be more than 400 stations in Moscow and its nearest suburbs.
Russia wasn’t considered civilized in the 90’s, was it? But it upgraded itself. The US will, too. On the other hand, a country that sends its boys to fight an imaginary enemy and openly denies its citizens freedom of speech cannot be considered fully civilized. The US doesn’t have draft since the end of the Vietnam war. And you have all the freedom to badmouth the president (who doesn’t have an absolute power anyway). If anything, Pyongyang has beautiful subway, too. Does that make North Korea civilized?
There is difference in perception: Americans are pretty down-to-eath capitalist people and for them subway is just means of transportation. For Russia subway is also a place for aesthetics.
@@user-pq2bn9ce9q, вы вообще как давно а Нью-Йорке были? Наверное только виртуально, через видосы. Я объездил все нью-йоркское метро и могу сказать что эта станция далеко не самая чистая. Есть много станций гораздо чище и красивее этой. Хотя есть и хуже. Когда старая и неотремонтированная станция нью-йоркского метро сравнивается с одной из самых новых станций московского метро, это сравнение необъективное.
You can’t live at a metro station in Moscow for one simple reason: they all shut down at 1am and don’t reopen till at least 5:30am, completely dedicating these hours for repairs and thorough cleaning. New York’s subway is 24/7, which makes it more difficult for repair and cleaning crews to regularly access each and every station but makes it easier for the homeless to do so. It’s a tradeoff. But I still believe that with adequate funding it will be possible to bring NYC subway to the state of a good repair while keeping 24-hour service.
This is not the most beautiful metro station yet. And in Russia there is a station that resembles a museum. Это еще не самая красивая станция метро. А в России есть станция, напоминающая музей.
@@AntonAnton-rf5zl, ну так и в Нью-Йорке есть станции посимпатичнее и более ухоженные чем та что показана на этом видео. Не чета московским станциям-музеям, конечно, но тем не менее.
The New York metro was for the biggest part built before any metro line existed in Moscow, it would be fairer to compare entrances that were built in the same period
I can bet that with a good leadership in a few decades the USA will surpass the entire world yet again and make NY subway better than San Paolo (not betting it against Moscow though).
The US is not stuck in the past. If anything, most of NY subway lines were already up and running before the first line opened in São Paulo. The flip side of it, of course, is that the oldest stations in São Paulo are way younger - and, therefore, more modern - than most stations in NY. However, if you had been to any of the few newest stations in NY - or any part of the younger metro systems such as the ones in DC, LA, or Atlanta - you would see the evidence that the USA is not stuck in the past. And with the signal modernization currently under way in New York, yes, it can and will stand a chance, maybe even against São Paulo (not saying for sure because I’ve never been there), and surely against the old European metros comparable to NY by age. It will just take some time. Right now it’s indeed technologically stuck in the past, but that’s slowly but surely changing.
@@JermaniBurroughs, moreover, such systems already exist in New York’s both international airports - with standard tracks at JFK, and as a monorail at EWR. By the way, platform screen doors are being planned for a few subway stations in New York as well. And two subway lines are already fully equipped with automated system that propels the trains with no operator’s input. The only reason the operator and the conductor are still onboard is because of the labor rules.
Mesmo assim 95% das pessoas escolheria NY ganhando em dólar num país livre! As ruas da Coreia do Norte é mais limpas quê a Suíça! Você escolheria corea do Norte por causa disso?
Подскажите есть ли у вас такой же интернет как у меня в деревне я живу в лесу на усадьбе до ближайшего города 29 км на машине у меня проведён оптоволоконный интернет мой тариф это безлимитный интернет на скорости 420 мбит\сек 100 каналов цифрового тв и 2 сим карты для телефона с безлимитным интернетом и бесплатными звонками во все сети сейчас в месяц я оплачиваю 710 рублей или 7 даларов при том оплату я производу через мобильное приложение не выходя из дома оплачиваю интеренет и коммунальные платежи за электричество Если у вас всё это есть то я соглашусь с вами если же этого у вас не будет в ближайшие 20 лет тогда вы сами знаете в какой отсталой стране третьего мира вы живёте
@@Biboran. Eu estou na praia conversando com pessoas de verdade me divertindo. Não tenho tempo de ficar na Internet. E desde quando Rússia é primeiro mundo? Minha pátria e a sua são duas merdas, más a minha pelo ou menos não ataca vizinhos e não têm um psicopata como o seu Presidente! Querendo destruir o mundo
@@Sheik-Jalim.Rabeii Начиная с 1945 до 2024 года сша развязали 153 войны Начиная с 1945 до 2024 года конфликты в которых участвовала Россия их 4 Так кто агрессор и нападает на другие страны сша у которые развязали 153 войны или Россия которая участвовала всего в 4-ёх ?
The Moscow... Ancient architecture and futurism in the subway . Historic buildings and monuments amidst ultra-modern skyscrapers. Face payment and robot couriers in the middle of people in a classic dress Cultural words from past centuries along with modern slang... Clean streets.. An ideal city. The mix is best from ancient times and the future.
@@abenm613 I'm native Chinese myself, and of course living in the US is better! Higher wages, and you have your freedom. But the US also has its problems. Like high crime, (embarrassingly high for the wealthiest nation on earth) car dependency, traffic, drug abuse, etc. The US, China, and Russia all have its own issues. I never said living in Russia or China was better. This is just about the subway
@@abenm613 10-15 лет? А что, метро только сейчас в Нью-Йорке построили? Или в США стали жить значительно лучше?)) И с чего решили, что в Украине не проводится культ фашизма? Если такие же глупые люди как ты говорят, что "Бандера - не фашист, а герой! ". Хотя Галичина входили в состав СС официально, а войска имели немецкое оружие, и немецкую технику... А потом пишут, что Украинцы просто защищались от русских и Германии... Такой бред... Защищались против Германии с немецким оружием? И Поляков видимо по приколу уничтожали... И на других границах кошмарит пытались. Сейчас в Украине улицы в честь Бандеры называют, а коренных русских с русским языком отторгают... Навязывают украинский)) Да и Донбасс же не бомбили... Хорош тут по ушам ездить.
@@DmitriyNeizvestniy, Стефан Бандера умер в 1959 году, более чем за шестьдесят лет до нападения путинской армии на Украину. Однако для глупых людей вроде тебя Бандера и сегодня живее всех живых. Российские пропагандисты проделали профессиональную работу по зомбированию народных масс. И это, похоже, надолго. США на протяжении истории всегда успешно исправляли собственные ошибки. И ошибка с загниванием метро - не исключение. России же исправление ошибок дается гораздо тяжелее. Красивое метро - пожалуй одно из немногих утешений для зомбированных россиян.
@@abenm613фашисты - волки в овечьей шкуре это США. Вот вы и есть настоящие фашисты. Вы устраиваете террор на всей планете. Подмяли под себя Европейские страны, и решаете кто на земном шаре неправильный. Скоро вам настанет пизда.
there are 20 million people living in New York vs 13 million people in Moscow. new york subway takes 1 Billion trips every year vs Moscow metro 2.5 Billion trips every year
@@DmitriyNeizvestniy😂 Tokyo city only 13milion but have 40.milion live in metropolitan area. We use how many people live in urban area not size of city administrative area. You idiot
Not true. The City of New York has somewhere between 8 and 9 million residents. The City of Moscow has considerably more; even before the annexation of the southwestern suburbs that almost double the area of the city’s proper.
В чем заключаются твоя свобода? Вы не знаете значение слова свобода!! России великая держава! Потрясающая своей красотой и разнообразием, у нас в школах детям преподают правильные ценности,, У нас везде чисто и красиво! Люди очень добрые!! Еда вкусная и натуральная! Мальчики выглядят как мальчики, а девочки как девочки! Мы любим свою страну и своего Президента!! Почему что этот человек за 24 года поднял огромную страну с колен и теперь мы та страна которую боится весь мир!!! А метро это лишь проведенная параллель между вашей «свободной» и нашей «утопающей» России))
@@AnnyLoneAloneа пендосодрочер который даже и в США то никогда не был! А строит из себя бывалого знатока американской жизни и общества!😂😂😂 Странные вы черти !🤦
Свобода говоришь? Ну-ну ну-ну 🤣 Ультралиберальная диктатура и тоталитаризм прикрытой маской демократии и лживых свобод! Где за личное мнение и убеждения увольняют с работы, выгоняют из съёмного жилья и устраивают травлю в соцсетях! Где ЛГБТ диктует как жить детям а если ты будешь против то тебя лишат родительских прав! И так далее и так далее! Перечислять можно до бесконечности вашу мля липовую свободу!
@@user-vr1ju6lq4r Unfortunately mother Russia's war against tiny Ukraine has exposed its military to be substandard in every way. Poor training, outdated weapons, poorly equipped troops, incompetent military leaders, and the list goes on. I assure you no one is scared of Russia, not anymore.
The idea that this comparison has any significance, the utter lack of the million times bigger context that needs to be created to make it even vaguely meaningful, is ridiculous. What does this prove about either country? If you were to compare 'small town mid USA' with 'small town mid Russia' it would be more significant, and a very different comparison, but that would still be a stupidly narrow and simplistic comparison.
You showed a video of a subway station in Bronx, which is one of the parts in New York which are poor and dirty. But yes, i agree, if you take the whole system the Moscow Metro is better.
This station is in Brooklyn, not in the Bronx. It doesn’t depend on the borough or the neighbourhood. It depends on planning and budget. Some station get repairs sooner than others.
@@denissartisskis1625, if you compare the newest against the newest, NYC would pale in quantity (because subway expansion in NYC barely takes place and is nowhere near the Moscow level), but not necessarily in quality (because new stations in NYC are also built with aesthetics in mind). It’s the older stations that were built prior to 1980’s that pale in comparison with their Moscow counterparts.
@@denissartisskis1625 go to 81 St on CPW or Times Sq-42 St or Coney Island-Stillwell Av or 34 St-Hudson Yards or the 63 St Line stations or 5 Av-53 St or 2 Av Line stations
Bro has never been to South Ferry (1) Station, Bowling Green, WTC, Abandoned City hall Station, Grand Central Terminal, Moynihan Train Hall, 81st Street, The 2nd Av Subway, 34th St Hudson Yards, The Astoria Line, The Archer Av line, Bleeker St on the (6), The ESI stations like 53rd St, Coney Island, The 42nd st Shuttle. Like bro do some actual Comparisons like for Example. Court St on the (R) or South Ferry on the (1) Vs a Random Station on the Moscow Metro. But not a Random Rundown Station in Brooklyn or in the Bronx. That’s like comparing a Dirty Room vs a Luxurious Living Room. But The Moscow Metro (Of Course) Is better than the MTA anyway even if you compared NYC’s best Station like WTC or Hudson Yards.
To be fair, I’ll say that the video doesn’t look like the best station in Moscow. Although it is modern, its beauty probably won’t even be included in the top 50 stations in Moscow
@carkawalakhatulistiwa What century are you living in. Rich and average people used the subway every day. Cars are not considered a luxury item anymore.
Yes unfortunately the sad thing that only Moscow is so beautiful together with some other big cities. My dear Russian friend, who unfortunately isn't rich, lives in a city where it's already a lot if they have a few buses.
To be fair, Russia - as well as the entire Eastern Europe - knows how to keep their subways in state of a good repair. But you’re right: Russian cities are not created equal, and in terms of expanding the metro and renewing its rolling stock Moscow is far ahead from its fellow St.Petersburg.
Bro has never seen the Oculus, natural history, seventh avenue, Hudson yards, new Penn station, enhanced stations😂. Real mature when you select a back entrance in the Bronx. Lol. NYC has a lot of subway stations the second most in the world and more expansive then Moscows. It has good and bad ones.
Ikr these comparison videos chose the worst stations to compare, gotta admit the MTA is behind on renovations but it doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it? Theres tons of renovations happening and being planned like on the 7 line
Метро Москвы далеко впереди метро Нью-йорка, там самые красивые станции и самые большие. Как пример огромная станция Нижегородская, где соединяются 2 линии метро, а также есть остановки для общественного транспорта
@@pavelkroll, так никто и не спорит что впереди. Более того, Москва даже впереди Питера (не говоря уж о других городах России) в плане расширения метросистемы и обновления подвижного состава. Однако это не означает что метро Нью-Йорк так ужасно как его обрисовывают.
These "shitty old stations" is overwhelming majority in NYC subway and three new platforms is a drop in a bucket. In Moscow metro all stations, even oldest soviet, are clean and not shabby. Moreover, over the past five years in this system have been opened more than 50 station, and most of them look just as futuristic as in the video
@@Chort_off gotta agree with you on this but the MTA is actually finally doing something about it, their redoing many stations on the 7 line at the moment and recently some on the J, they also publicly released more than 9 stations that will undergo a remodel. Nyc subway is a shit hole at the moment gotta admit but it looks like it’s getting better since their finally replacing old trains on the A line with the new R211 and getting new stations. And they plan for screen doors at stations so people can’t jump in the tracks
Age is not an excuse for poor condition. The reason New York’s subway had deteriorated in the first place is that it was underfunded. This is also the reason it takes so long to bring it back to a good shape. But it’s getting there. Compare the 70’s with today - it’s heaven and earth.
Руководство МТА получает зарплату хотя бы за то что метро сейчас не такое каким оно было полвека назад. Вы видимо давно в нью-йоркском метро не были и не видели отремонтированных и почищенных станций.
@@abenm613 У меня нет машины. Я пользуюсь исключительно метро. О каком улучшении вы говорите? Об этом поверхностном непрекращающемся «освоении» бюджетных средств? 😂😂😂 Это метро выглядело убого 30 лет назад и сейчас выглядит также. Не вижу никаких реальных улучшений.
How long ago have you last visited New York? And even if you did, I suspect that you only saw a handful of stations that happened not to be among the new or renovated ones. Comparing the metros of New York and Kiev is ridiculous because Kiev’s first line was opened in 1960, and to date it only has three, while New York’s oldest underground line was opened in 1904, and some of the ground-level and elevated parts of the system are even older. Besides, Kiev’s metro was originally built by the same Soviet regime as Moscow’s, it has the same specifications and similar rolling stock. New York’s subway was originally built by two competing private companies and only later taken over by the city. None of the Soviet-era metros were ever neglected; even during the economic crisis of the 90’s they were maintained and expanded. In New York, on the other hand the subway was allowed to deteriorated in the 70’s. It’s easier to have always consistently maintained the system than to bring it back to state of a good repair after neglect and deterioration. But New York is working on it.
the USA is considered developed. You are implying the USA is not developed, wich is true. The usa is far behind russia in infrastructure. The usa bombs middle eastern country's, russia builds infrastructure for its citizens
I'm no fan of New York city, but this is like showing an armpit train station compared to a pretty nice station. New York has some really nice train stations, Moscow does too, and both have some pretty run down stations
I’m a New Yorker, too. But, unlike you, I have ridden the entire subway system and can testify that many stations have been renewed and are in a much better shape (and the few new ones that we have are nothing to complain about at all). But, yes, lots of stations are still like this one, and it is embarrassing.
On the other hand, if you had been to this particular station (Church Ave on B/Q) you may have noticed that the design itself - columns and ceiling specifically - is not that bad. In this video the camera focused on the mezzanine areas and the old doors. In comparison to this, a new station in Moscow obviously wins. But, even though Moscow does take much better care of its entire metro system, a more fair comparison to Church Ave would be some of Moscow’s older radial stations built in the 60’s-70’s.
While Moscow metro is generally superior to New York City subway in almost every respect (with notable exceptions of 24-hour service, wheelchair accessibility, and the ability to reroute trains in case of a disruption), this particular video does not provide a fair comparison between the systems. The Moscow footage shows one of the newest stations in the system, while the New York footage shows one of the oldest and not renovated.
@@DmitriyNeizvestniy, New York doesn’t have as many new stations as Moscow does, but the few it does have (built over the past 15 years) are not worse than in most other major metros. As for the renovated and modernized stations, New York has plenty of them.
@@abenm613 well, in Moscow there are no stations with rats and with leaking walls... There are absolutely no unkempt stations in Moscow. Even if there is a clear comparison, New York will still not win... this video shows a typical New York station and a typical Moscow station. Despite the fact that this is not the worst station in New York... There are also some with rats, with piss and with shit. Just your average NY station.
@@abenm613 What can we say... the first trains on autopilot will appear in Moscow in 2026. Old trains have Wi-Fi, phone chargers... The metro has 3 radial lines that shorten the journey. Every old station is a historical treasure. And these stations are also wide... At each station there are two tracks, namely direct and return. Also, these stations are designed as anti-nuclear shelters. The interval between trains is approximately 2 minutes.
@@DmitriyNeizvestniy, Moscow metro has no unkempt stations and leaking walls? Try Dinamo. I concede that New York wouldn’t win apples-to-apples comparison, but I would question your statement that Church Ave on the video is a typical station. Perhaps it’s about a near-average station, but too many are better than that, though some are even worse. I know New York subway too well to be told what its stations look like. As for Moscow, one of the newest stations is not a “typical” station either. If anything, why not consider Proletarskaya or Pervomayskaya to be typical instead?
Disliked As soon as i start watching the video. You know this Comparison is just Unfair & Dont make no Sense at all Ngl. 1. Before you start making comparisons At least look at the Most Spectacular Stations of Each Metro. Not Look up 1 & look up the worst of the other metro. If i were to make a Short like this look up the most beautiful station of each metro. & Then Post it.
there are 20 million people living in New York vs 13 million people in Moscow. new york subway takes 1 Billion trips every year vs Moscow metro 2.5 Billion trips every year
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa, there are only somewhere between 8 and 9 million people in New York City. Moscow has significantly more, even before the annexation of the southwestern suburbs to the municipality.
@@redemissarium, do you really think the homeless you see in New York and other US cities are normal folks who just happened to lose a job? NY is a heavily Democrat state, which offers all necessary social support for those who need it. How many New Yorkers have paid off houses? I would imagine it’s a relatively small percentage. It may be higher in Moscow, but even there I don’t think it’s the majority. Those who were privileged enough (or had their parents been privileged enough) to have Moscow registration during the the Soviet era have inherited their property from the Soviets. But Moscow’s population doesn’t solely consist of them. With young out-of-towners constantly moving in, with hope to fulfil their Muscovite Dream, the housing market there must be rather scarce. To Moscow’s credit, there’s more new residential construction going on in Moscow than it does in NYC. But that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re richer (though some of them may very well be). As for the city government itself, keep in mind that the City of Moscow is not only Russia’s largest and most populous city but also its capital, and it therefore benefits much more from Russia’s federal largesse than other cities do. New York City doesn’t have the status of a capital and is, therefore, pretty much on its own, just like other US cities. Washington DC is more likely to be a receptive of various federal subsidies because it is the US capital, but it has much smaller population, primarily consisting of federal employees. I also doubt the US feds provide any extra help to Washington Metro; instead WMATA relies on funding from DC itself, as well as Maryland and Virginia.
