New York YANKEES at Detroit TIGERS 5/24/58 Original WPIX Broadcast (Kinescope) 

YES!! Fans paid close attention to the game. Maybe, it was the fact teams had bonofide ALLSTARS in those days! Plus, no drugs!!!

THATS A GREAT REMARK ABOUT PEOPLE STARING AT THEIR PHONES 📱 LIKE MINDLESS ZOMBIES 🧟‍♀️...THEIR ALL ADDICTED TO THEIR FFNNNGG PHONES 📱

And to loud Music if you want to call it that, all during the game !

You are so right. Announcers back then had character. They represented how ordinary people saw the game. Today, they think they impress by analyzing a routine groundball.

Ernie was the best ever!

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Nice to not hear a female voice on a MLB game played by Men

Baseball was still the undisputed king of American sport at this time. The NFL's sudden death OT championship game between the Colts and the Giants would be played 7 months later and begin to change things.

I’ve never been to Detroit except to the airport, and I can’t imagine what it would have been like to go to Briggs/Tiger Stadium during its heyday.

Hopefully they play ball there again soon.

Yep, it's about the game not the announcers constant rambling.

In later years, though, Phil(G-d rest his soul) was too given to talking about neighbors and family and his barber. But, yeah, Phil knew the game and was insightful, and humble.

Agree I can’t stand Michael Kay I mute when he’s on

@@robertkelly6282 michael Kay was so much more likeable when he was with john sterling. Now he just irritates me. I love david cone and paul o'Neil though.

Yeah, they talk about analytics, pitch count, the shift on the infield etc etc etc, i mute them. They can't touch old school announcers, never, ever

@@written12 I enjoyed Phil, Bill White & Frank Messer.

Amen

@@leftykoufax7084 #32 My favorite pitcher of all time!!

💯 % correctomundo

Nerds have taken over baseball and sports in general, when all ANY team needs are the best players to win. They’ve made sports into rocket science because they couldn’t make ANY team they tried out for. Barkley was 💯% correct ! They couldn’t get the girls in high school either!😂

Joe Buck is extremely anti New York in all sports.

I know right? Watch a Yankee telecast today and you've got "Talk Show Michael" Kay asking Paul O'Neill what restaurant he ate at last night or telling David Cone a story about when Cone pitched for the Mets in 1989. The game barely exists to them.

Well, you may "digress," but you're completely on point. Technology and the rise of athleticism has also made it easier for the public to accept pro sports in general as entertainment and players, as a corollary, as ENTERTAINERS. MLB is no longer an extension of geographic loyalties but largely a Vanity Fair website ⚾

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Alexander Hamilton does not hold Weehawken in high regard.

Melvin Allen Israel was his full name .

Me too. Loved Mel and Red and the Scooter

all I heard was "Ball 1" and i was like.....DAMN!! MEL ALLEN!!!

Sad how over produced its become.

Love the fact that there’s so much silence so you can hear the background crowd ambiance.

Phil Rizzuto as well

What is generally forgotten is that Lary was often a .500 pitcher against the rest of the league. If you take away his two twenty - win seasons (1956 and 1961), he had a losing record for his career.

Today...they don't shut up!

While we all agree Joe Buck and Tim McCarver's nonstop blather is annoying. This type of announcing ( "Batter steps to the plate, adjusts his helmet, adjusts his gloves" announcing is even worse

john smoltz is the worst, yet we have to listen to him blow out his ass non-stop every World Series and LCS.

Mel Allen was a pro. He & Red Bsarber were two of the best.

Later in his career, Allen talked incessantly. Supposedly this factored into hks firing after the 1964 season.

I graduated from Windsor's Faculty of Education in 1986 with Reno's daughter Ruth. That summer Reno played in a Tigers Old-Timers game.

Mr. Bertoia used to stop in Nemo's, on Michigan Avenue right by the old ballpark, 15-20 years ago, and they're still going strong and have a park&shuttle on game days to the new park, also the Red Wings and probably the Lions and Pistons too and I think he took that over to the Tiger game , don't recall exactly. Anyhow he was a very nice gentleman. He was very low-key, and gracious and polite to everyone.

& I misspoke, 58 was Mantle era, not Joe D, it’s incredible u can link Ruth -Gehrig-Joe D- Mantle- Berra,-Murcer-Mattingly

Did you ever meet his brother, Milt?

I think they started the center field camera that year

Barber was the losing pitcher in Don Larsen's perfect game.

He pitched for the Giants, Dodgers, and Yankees.

Indians also.

Charlie already had two hits by the end of the segment shown. I remember his baseball card saying that he was famous for always hitting well on Sundays. And, as this is an afternoon game and the lst of a three game series, it was probably being played on Sunday.

Maxwell at one time lived in Paw Paw Michigan. His best year was 1956 when he made the all- star team..He was nicknamed "Always On Sunday" because of his knack of hitting homers on Sunday against the Yankees. In 1956, the Tigers had two twenty- game winners and five .300 hitters but still finished fifth in an eigbt- team league.

Charlie Maxwell at 96 is the oldest living former Detroit Tiger as of 2023

your 100% correct Norm I feel the same as you that’s why we are here 😎👍⚾️ I can’t watch todays game alot has changed in 20 years and it’s not good what a heartbreaker 😫⚾️ thanks for your comments

​@@pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229 Hello phobia films!! I am a cardinals fan and I love hearing Harry Cary and Jack Buck!! Do you know how I can get radio broadcast of the season's of the 61,62 and 63. Thank You so much take care God Bless!

1958: When God was in heaven, Eisenhower was in the Whitehouse and Mickey Mantle was in centerfield.

This season inter league play accounted for 25 percent of the schedule. Why not just do away with tradition totally and play each team an equal number of games? Just ruin the novelty of AL vs NL in the World Series.

While I love having these partial game clips of old sporting events, I always wonder what happened to the rest of the broadcast? Why would only this 31-minute segment have survived?

The year 1958 was the first year that the Yankees had WPIX to themselves with the Giants having moved to San Francisco..

Before liberals

@@edreed5571 Liberals.. oh, you mean those who pushed for MLB(and everyone else for that matter) to integrate?

None of the players or announcers in this game were multimillionaires, or even millionaires. Today, virtually all of them are. And the product they produce isn’t any better than it was in 1958.

With Phil talking about the camera angle where you could see the catcher, pitcher, second basemen and mantle I wondered if Mel and Phil were doing the commentary from New York to save money and the camera shots were their only means of viewing the game. It jsut ahd the feel of one of the Covid broadcasts from the last two seasons.

@@44032 They didn't have the technology to do that kind of a remote broadcast back then. There just weren't that many camera angles really until the '70s. Keep in mind the reason why only one announcer is talking at a time is because the other guy's in the next broadcast booth over, on the radio. Where's Red Barber tho?

On Game of the week, Pee Wee Reese as announcers. Heard Dizzy sing The Wabash Cannonball and -call plays as :"a blue darter" ( a solid hit), a "dying quail" (blooper), and a "frozen rope" (line drive)

Tell me about it- July 25, 1959

That caught me off guard lol

Phil Rizzuti

No instant replay, no talk of pitch counts or a 95 mph fastball. No batters stepping out of the box to fiddle around. No 3-4 hour games. Just baseball as it was meant to be played.

@@frederickrapp5396 you said it! i don't watch anymore (since the nineties). and i go back to the mid-forties.

@@frederickrapp5396 Remember Colavito when he would make the sign of the cross on home plate and then point the bat at the pitcher??

and he would hand sailors & soldiers a drink, reaching up into the grandstand from the b'cast booth. what a time!!

Amphetamines was his undoing.

Total BS. Mel Allen never drank during a broadcast. This is a malicious rumor, confirmed nowhere by any journalist. There are two exhaustive biographies of Allen, and neither mentions any such drinking in the booth. You might consider not slandering dead people when you have no idea what you're talking about.

@@davanmani556 Allen was a client of Dr. Max Jacobson, like many of the leading celebrities of the day, including President Kennedy while he was in the White House. Jacobson told his clients that he was giving them vitamin injections but laced ths shots with amphetamines and corticosteroids.

And using both hands when making the catch.

Washington first in war, first in peace, last in the American League. Laughed twice when I heard the out of town scores.

In California, before the Giants came to S.F. and Dodgers to L.A., ball fans had St. Louis as their main team.

@@ralphowen3367Before the Giants moved to San Francisco, my Dad was a Yankee fan because they were always on national TV every week. Some things never change.

Martin was never the same player after getting traded. Went to KC, Tigers, Reds, and I think finally Twins, whom he ended up coaching and managing for 1 year. Fired after taking them from mediocrity to winning division in 69

Ironically, Martin was at the Copa Cabana but had no involvement in the fracas. I believe Hank Bauer had to go to court about it. Still, the incident got so much negative publicity in the tabloids that it gave Yankee G. M. George Weiss the pretext to deal him to the Kansas City Athletics. Weiss considered Martin a bad influence on Mantle.

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Harvey was more known for this batting average. He hit .303 lifetime and .319 this season but with only 8 home runs. We are privileged to see one of them.

Mostly do to commercials!!!!!

Your comment makes it sound like Frank Lary was in the big leagues when he was 12 years old, and kicking ass against the vaunted Yankees!😄😄😄 Of course, I know you mean that YOU were 12 years old, not him.😊 For the record, Frank Lary was 28 in 1958.

I would assume the kinescope reel ended just when Mantle was batting. I think they usually needed 4 or 5 reels to cover an entire game.

I disagree that players in 1958 were “playing for the love of the game.” They were playing for money 100%. No guaranteed multi year multi million dollar contracts either. Most of the ballplayers were making around 15K a year, and they’d get around another 7K if they won the World Series. They were all on one year deals, and if they did not produce, they would be gone the next year, the next month, or the next week. There would always be another guy anxious to take your job away from you. They never knew when they might be gone, only management did. Owners could pay them exactly what they wanted to, or release them for any reason with or without cause. Players could never lay down roots in a community or be certain to raise their families in one city only. The players were interchangeable pieces of cattle, and they all knew it; even stars like Mantle, Berra, and Kaline. They could be traded on the owner’s whim, and for any reason and at any time. You notice how the players never smiled, or gave each other high-fives, or celebrated after a home run. A quick hand shake would suffice. The owners wouldn’t like excessive bursts of emotion, and the ballplayer could be gone the next day. Loyalty only existed if you produced and behaved, and it was always a one way street. For the fans, it might have been a game, but for the players it was strictly business.

He later managed the Tigers to the 1972 AL East title.

Yes the box score is in there

Billy Martin and Casey Stengel reportedly never spoke to each other again after he was traded by the Yankees. They were deeply, deeply, estranged.

@@WhiteCamry Martin also managed the Twins to a division championship in 1969 with a 97-65 record but was fired after the season.

You are right about frank lary

Don't forget Jim Bunning

AKA "Taters".

How was Scooter not playing at this time, was he retired. By then?

The Scooter was rather unceremoniously released by Yankees GM George Weiss (coldhearted and tightfisted) on August 25th 1956. Luckily for all us fans of The Scooter, then Yankees TV/Radio-sponsor "Ballantine Beers" insisted that the Yankees (and George Weiss) hire Rizzuto as an announcer for the 1957 season. And the rest is history...HOLY COW!! RIP dear and beloved Scooter!