New Zealand Family Reacts to The American Revolution - OverSimplified (Part 2) 

Another fact about Arnold that a majority of American's do not know. At Saratoga Battlefield there stands a monument to part of Benedict Arnold, namely his leg. He was wounded in the battle and wound up losing his leg from the wound, but because he later betrayed his country, it was deemed inappropriate to erect a statue to a traitor, no matter how great his contribution. So instead, a statue was erected to that portion of himself that he sacrificed for his country, his leg.

He has company...Joe Biden.

@@Whoozerdaddy A one-legged statue wouldn't look right.

@@glassontherocks I don’t recall Biden ever inciting an insurrection…

@@glassontherocks That's why it is literally a statue of his leg.

My husband is named John Paul… his dad was a US Navy officer….

A crazy Scottish pirate is the father of the US Navy. Sounds about right.

@@tiffanypatton9293 I don't believe John Paul Jones was his actual birth name .......Seems to me he was ' on the lam " and changed his name ..

@@jimmythetout109 weather or not this was his birth name, that’s the name he went by during this time period in his life

John Paul Jones's body now lays at rest forever beneath the chapel at the US Navel Academy in Annapolis where the Marines guard it 24/7. True story.

Yeah, it's synonymous with traitor. When I was a young child, and before I really even knew who he was in history, I knew that being called a 'Benedict Arnold' was being called a traitor.

What everyone knows about Benedict Arnold is mostly wrong. History is written by people who want to spin it their way. Also to make things seem more dramatic and more well simplified lol. Anyway Benedict Arnold had many more reasons than are known by most Americans for what he did.

@@wendylynn4318 None of those reasons justified pledging your life to the people only to betray them. Even the british thought he was scum for that betrayal.

@@wendylynn4318 Being a traitor is so bad that there is only one penalty listed for the crime and conviction......Death .....let that sink in .....no matter how many reasons you can come up with to justify it.

The irony of everyone here talking about how bad Benedict Arnold was because he committed Treason, while failing to note that every single person fighting for the colonies were committing Treason against the Crown.

@@RichardDeal That Battle happened in 1779 during the Revolutionary war. Jones Died in Paris in 1792, and such never saw or participated in the War of 1812.

@@Texolotl thank you Professor KillJoy

@@theselfishangryguy1946 You're Welcome

The best part is that he was Scottish...haha. CHOSE to fight for us.

I firmly believe that Captain Jack sparrow was modeled on John Paul Jones. Especially the way he stole that shit from the British in the beginning of the first movie.

Shame his blood disease shortly afterwards drove him mad

@@joshschneider9766 Annnnnd.... you are talking about King George, not President George. Just to clarify.

@@HemlockRidge Nobody calls him President George. It's President Washington. ;p

@@coltjames9159 Oh REALLLLLLY? Gosh!

Yes, I was responding to the last line of the original comment. Not sure why that callednfor clarification

quikstrike98 - Regarding Ben Arnold. Well said.

What was it that they said when he died? "If we could bury his leg (that he had lost in battle for the Continental Army) as a patriot, and hang the rest of him, we would?" or something to that effect, lol. He started off as a Loyalist, of sorts - he only wanted the British to pull back and honor the constitution they had with the colonies. He only went for independence when the British decided to play hardball and make it all or nothing...so there is that, when you consider him as a Continental general. Kind o fa mixed bag. He really was a military genius, and had he been tapped properly, might have been the greatest hero of the war. His pride, though, ended up being his downfall.

He was desperate for promotion and approval that rarely came. I think his wife had Loyalist sentiments, too.

@@BlueRidgeCritter Could you imagine an alternate timeline where he was tapped properly, never became a traitor, and wound up being some great figure in history?

@@BlueRidgeCritter it was an answer to a question about what the army/congress would do if he was captured. They said they would cut off his leg and bury it with honor, and hang him as a traitor. There is also some claims that the second time he was hit in the leg he wished it would have killed him instead.

I've always considered Washington to be a great leader and much more principled than Jefferson. Washington seemed honest or at least mostly honest in his views especially later in life. Thomas Jefferson did a lot of good, but it felt like he was just playing politician and it was hard to tell what he did and didn't believe in, especially in the case of slavery. Even John Adams who is known for his large ego and stubbornness seemed more principled and honest in his beliefs as he opposed slavery and didn't own slaves, but Jefferson claimed to be against it yet had no issue with owning hundreds.

Yeah it's very convenient to wait until you are dead to free your slaves. You know get the work out of them while you're alive.

@@rich355 nobody really knows anything about these people. You know history is written with all kinds of motives.

@@wendylynn4318 That's a fair point, but honestly you can still have a decent understanding on someone without knowing them, based on the factual things. It also depends on where or from you get your information. Geographic location impacts the way certain figures are portrayed as well.

@@wendylynn4318 All I'm going to say is washington throughout his entire service to the US essentially spent every penny he had to assist in stabilizing the country and funding the army. That becomes a rather difficult arrangement once ones beliefs change considering the entire nation would feel the consequences.

I'm a "born" computer scientist -- I know how to write code for machines very well, along with the formal grammars that underlie any programming language. As a non-expert in law, I have nevertheless long had a programmer's fascination with our Constitution: to me, the clauses of the US Constitution seem so suggestive of the ways that the designs of computers, and computer languages, are specified in ordinary human language. I particularly enjoy reading Appellate and Supreme court rulings which hinge on careful evaluation of existing constitutional and case law: they often read like computer science papers. Such a paper might address an ambiguity or contradiction in the existing specifications, or deal with a use case not hitherto encountered, etc. Another feature both court rulings and new computer science specifications have in common is that they "bracket" their main specifications with all sorts of clarifying statements about what was and was not meant by the main specification, to be as clear and specific as possible.

It was so difficult to adopt the Constitution, because of the current agreement that held the sates together, called the Articles of Confederation, made it so difficult to get anything done for the states as a whole entity.

The US constitution is definitely the most significant document in the last 2000 years, along with the Magna Carta. My son lives in New Zealand and tells me more people over there realize the significance of America, and its birth, than here. Over here in the United States, we’re in a great battle for constitutional interpretation and adherence. If it weren’t sad, it would be ironic, that James Madison was too smart for his own good. At first he was reluctant to pursue a bill of rights. Good people like Madison, think everybody else is good. He said, what is not there by explication, cannot be derived by implication. A lot of people disagreed, including his Baptist friends in Rhode Island. If we didn’t have the Bill of Rights, we would’ve rolled over sometime ago. But right now, America is in a fight for her life..

@@stevemcc4447 not just America but the entire world, the United States is the only superpower and the number one consumer and if it continues on this course the whole world will be affected

@@JustMe-gn6yf Yeah not too sure about that. But America is the number one producer. Number one inventor. Number one promoter of freedom. And it’s not the consumer issues that are a problem here. It’s the moral issues.

You fought each other in the “Battle of 1812”.

@@Fergus_0703 The War of 1812 was against the British. I mean there were a few wars before the Civil War... The Barbary Wars, The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War and then the Civil War.

@@brennangum6236 oh, I thought you meant the British and Americans. Forget my comment✌🏻

"Four score and seven years ago...", in other words, 87 years.

Wasn't what I'd call peaceful though. From the start, there were tensions, and multiple compromises to maintain unity. Who was the southern Senator to kick the shite out of a northern one? With his cane. On the Senate floor.

Well not that much in New Zealand...

Kind of reminds me with my kids for that age. It goes by so damn fast. My daughter turned 40 this year! Of course I had to give her grief over it! If I had a advice to this mother and father I would say savor each moment. No matter how good or how bad savor them all.

@@dawsonshaw7741 I wish I could go there the idea of climbing snow covered mountains then going through a jungle to jump in pristine Pacific Waters kind of has its appeal you know. If you're into geology there's enough going on in New Zealand to keep you busy for a lifetime. If you go on Google Earth and look at the topography of New Zealand you may get a little puzzled. I include the seafloor in that statement. I mean why is a volcano that rises up out of the Pacific pretty much everyone knows. It's also the tallest mountain from base to peak in the world. I think it should be the only way mountains are measured personally not sea level but from base to peak. New Zealand on the other hand I believe has some volcanic areas but it's also uplifted seabed. Very different than Hawaii and many places. Excluding the amount of volcanic activity that Iceland has New Zealand is kind of similar to it.

@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer You sound like you are a good father.

@@deirdre9746 best I could be. I guess I did pretty good my kids friends loved to come over when I was there. I worked too many hours that was one thing I did wrong. For 10 years I averaged about 60 hours a week working 13 out of 14 days on night shift. Then we went to 12-hour shifts and I would work 48 to 60 hours but have days off. I would come home from work and take care of my kids. Catnap on the sofa when they were taking their naps. I don't recommend if possible working overtime.

Its hilarious the universal spite for the british Empire at that time. Love how the French supported us so fervently financially and military might wise it caused a economic crisis and inspired their own people to revolt. Like legit ruined their monarchy in sticking it to the british

I think many of our allies in the revolution did it just to spite the British.

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Poland had sent General Kosciusko to help train Washington's army

It also led to a feint in the Persian Gulf, when port-a-potties [required by U.S. regulations] were prepositioned on a beach and lane markers were set up for an alleged Marine Expeditionary Unit amphibious landing. It led to a major shift in Iraqi forces to cover that approach, while the Marines and Coalition forces charged from the southern border.

@@CaptainFrost32 I hadn't heard about that, but it's pretty cool. :) port-a-potties are certainly a cheaper sort of equipment to deploy in a feint, heh.

@@angiepen Also funnier.

Angie Penrose - You are absolutely right, no question asked.

Yes! As well as prohibition

They also need to do the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution. Really, they need to do all of Oversimplified's videos.

Yes.they must do the Amercian Civil War.it's great and funny tbh

Just know that particular video really is oversimplified and somewhat bias in its omissions.

@@mytech6779 Yes, it literally has the word oversimplified in the name of the video.

Said in a demand to strike his colors (surrender) by the captain of the HMS Serapis. The Bonhomme Richard was sinking, 2 of its guns blown up, and had a fire near its powder. The battle went on for another 3 hours, with Jones closing his ship close enough for men in the sails to inflict considerable damage on British sailors. The Serapis and Countess of Scarborough struck their colors. Jones transferred to the Serapis and the Bonhomme Richard sank the next day.

@@markuhler2664 On August 14, 1779, Jones was to provide a diversion for a French and Spanish fleet that was going to invade England. Jones had four other ships with him when they sailed for Ireland. A few days into their voyage, one of the ships, the Alliance, broke away following an argument between its captain and Jones. Thereafter, the Alliance would periodically rejoin the fleet, only to break away again. In the early morning hours of September 23, 1779, the Alliance rejoined Jones’ fleet. By mid-afternoon, Jones and his fleet encountered a large fleet of merchant ships near Yorkshire, England, off the coast of Flamborough Head, being guarded by the HMS Serapis and the HMS Countess of Scarborough. As Jones and his ships gave chase, the British ships maneuvered between Jones’s fleet and the merchant ships so the merchant ships could flee. The Bonhomme Richard fired one of its big guns at the Serapis, but it unexpectedly exploded, killing crewmen, damaging the ship, and causing the crew to not use the other big guns for fear the same thing would happen with them. The Serapis then used its heavier guns to pound the Bonhomme Richard. At one point, the bow of the Bonhomme Richard ran into the stern of the Serapis, resulting in the Bonhomme Richard‘s flag falling. When he noticed the flag was down, a universal sign of surrender, the captain of the Serapis asked Jones, “Has your ship struck?” which meant was Jones surrendering. According to a crewman, Jones replied, “I have not yet begun to fight!” Indeed he fought a bitter fight with grappling hooks, both crews trying to board each other, and the Alliance firing on the Serapsis and hitting both ships. On the morning of September 25 John Paul Jones ship the Bonhomme Richard was sunk to the bottom of the Sea from British damage. Luckily for John Paul Jones and his surviving crew they sailed away... aboard the captured Serapis

He is also believed to have said, "Damn the torpedos - straight ahead!" Just a LITTLE of his rocker?

@@valeriefields7902 Wrong commander and wrong war. That quote was from Union Admiral David Farragut in the Civil War.

@@davidwiley8752 - You could have been clearer, about whose ship was what and such, but by end of the story, I believe you told it pretty well, along with some stuff I did not know, so I thank you for that. All the while, with my wife barking in my ear, for no good reason, having nothing to do with the subject, nor anything logical, from my view, but if I were to say, 'See, I told you so, as this is how shit goes down sometimes', basically, I would loose any women who might be reading this shit anyway, so of essennce, what do I really have to loose, but self respect? Sorry for the bombardment, but I had to get it off my chest, either that or one of us will be dead in the morning. Just kidding man. I'm neither homicidal nor suicidal, altho, at times, I do consider the option. Again, just kidding, but it allows me to feel good, when all other's seem to conspire against me. Woe is me,. Yeah, I get it. Grain of salt. No worries, other than the obvious, but actually, I'm pretty experienced as to how to deal with such. I've fired up the engines of more than one thousand foot freighter or another, but apparently, not quite so my wife's engines. Just kidding, blowing off steam, but it's all true, sorry to say, at times, anyway. I don't know who she thinks I am, but the more I keep my mouth shut, the better this whole things gonna work out, being that we are already about 30 years into it, as if anyone's counting. I know she cares for me. It's just the 'why' of it, that leaves me to ponder, underneath the vitriol. She says, sink or swim, but I say, eat it or wear it. The whole point of which, being yours, that I intend to re-enforce, in that, not quite as eloquently put, but I think we both mean to say, 'I have not yet begun to fight'. So, thanks for bringing that up.

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That's pretty damn awesome. I mean, someone has to be related to him right? Lol

@@jackiechan6460 a bunch famous people are related to him as well: Tom Cruise, Elizabeth Taylor, John Moses Browning, and a few others as well. We are descendants of the same French ancestor.

My family was still in the rice fields of Japan and manchuria

I actually crossed the Delaware too, in a car, on a bridge. But still.

Just started Turn tonight, so good

Just finished watching Turn; one of my favorite shows!

It’s my favorite show! I’ve seen it several times is so beautifully done and it really captures how America’s first patriots struggled with everything, and how they had to try and balance patriotism and family needs and how often those are combined

Started watching Turn when it was originally broadcast (or was it cable?), but it's been awhile. If I remember correctly, it goes into George Washington as spymaster of the Culpepper Ring.

@@amydevol8224 hi h vih. i h vih. v h v. v. ihh. iuv h ivi hi h ihh. ih

Yeah, come visit before we get really really bad.

Just please don't make the mistake every other tourist makes and try to visit everything in the span of a week. A week might be enough time to drive one-way from coast to coast...might, depending on traffic. Pick an area and see everything there, I promise wherever you go there'll be more than enough to amaze you.

@@emPtysp4ce Haha. I've had to explain to several Europeans that driving across America is like driving from Portugal to Iraq

Agreed, but dodge staying in the larger cities...you get a much better feel for what makes this country amazing by traveling through the countryside and the smaller towns. Most foreigners make that mistake and take back pretty much the same experience you would have in any larger cities.

@@joelockard7174 countryside is beautiful

Wendy Lynn - What you say is very true, but I might not quite agree with your conclusion, assuming you made one. You are right tho. It is a long and convoluted story, that needs more respect, and for a long time, he was a well respected patriot.

He was a patriot, but got his little feelings hurt that he wasn’t made a celebrity!

@@catofthecastle1681 He just wanted credit for his accomplishments. I can understand that.

@@valeriefields7902 this is the most healthy comment thread of this entire video.

The Simplified recounting of the winters during the American Revolution barely touch on the misery that the soldiers suffered. That "your shoes look delicious" joke was actually true; rations were so scarce and they were so hungry that many of the pet dogs that traveled with the army were eaten and the men eventually wound up boiling the leather of their boots as an attempt to feed themselves at Valley Forge. Apparently the winter in Morristown, NJ was even worse, as the men not only had few food rations, many were not given adequate clothing or shelter, either. This is on top of the constant worry that they'd be caught and killed as traitors, worry for families left behind who might have their property seized for supporting the Revolutionary Army, and the general horror of battle.

Oppression? We were only asked to a pay 2% tax, to cover the cost of our protection, by the British military. Back in England, they were paying around a 30% tax. Who was really oppressed? Also, does anyone wonder why the Hessian mercenaries were employed to fight against us? It's because the British soldiers didn't feel right about waging war against their fellow Englishmen, so they defected and fought on the American side. It was problematic, and the Hessians were the solution. True story. PS: I'm not a lefty re-writing history.

@@stevenhoskins7850 - There is some truth in what you say. Still, I'm going to help pick it apart, at least a little bit. If any of this is true, meaning my bullshit, we'll see. First of all, as you alluded to, the Stamp tax, and others, many others , too numerous for me to remember, were in fact, meant to pay back a sense if 'debt', as the Brit's saw it, for saving our ass in the 'French and Indian' War, of about 1760. There is some legitimacy to such an argument, but please don't forget a few things. First of all, most Colonists (here in what became the States), didn't consider that their ass needed 'saving', in the first place. Rather, it was probably more likely, that it was just a matter of Britain expanding it's wings, to further their sense of 'empire'. Basically, Britain's run, was to gain control of Montreal (meaning, Canada), before the French did. That's basically what the French and Indian War, was all about. And even tho it taxed heavy on the British Empire, it was their choice to do so, not the Colonists, and don't forget, the Colonists had no Representation in Parliament, back in jolly good old England. It just was not a level playing field, my point. As you said, the Stamp tax, which was a tax on 'paper' in all of it's simplicity, was, as you said, probably just 2%, if bit even a bit less. But that meant, every card in a deck of cards, every newspaper (of free expression), basically, most of what went thu hands, if not, provided 'education', as the Colonists saw it, but just 'propaganda', as the Brits saw it. Fuck it, we might as tax them for that, which is how the cunts of the time pretty much felt. Actually, there was a fair amount of sympathy for the Colonists, back in jolly old England, but not quite enough to stem the tide of taxation, on the States, to re-pay a War, that they never asked for. Not to say there weren't 'problems', with the 'Indians', but who asked Britain to get involved? No one but Britain itself. Yes, there was trouble with the Indians, amongst the Colonists, but honestly, no one asked Britain to step in, let alone pay a tax for it. Fuck Montreal. Actually, Montreal is one of my favorite places to be. I've had more fun in Montreal than even god deserves.

Yes, I agree. Nothing funny about it.

What people forget to mention is the tar was boiling hot

@@hailarwotanaz5848 it doesn't get sticky when cold🤓

The British really should've reconsidered wearing bright red uniforms with a big X marking the center of their chests.

Triple Viktor - That's pretty much how I learnt it. As I recall, one of the few times the Colonists fought in 'open conflict', as armies normally did, was back in the beginning, I think around Lexington or so, in Massachusetts, but it was mostly because of circumstance, the lay of the land and that they were basically being routed at the time.

@@dobiebloke9311 Colonists fought in the open in traditional lines plenty of times. They just normally got smashed because the British were better trained and had superior numbers. They started to hold their own after they got training from von Steuben

@@panzerwolf494 - I wasn't aware of that. I'll look into it. Thanks.

They used guerilla tactics and it worked beautifully. The British were all lined up in bright red wool uniforms for them to pick off.

That's why you're here to elaborate. Please set it right.

Or the Barbary wars, which is where the U.S. marines were born, and was the most successful war,but also forgotten.

Except Americans, nobody care about this mini-war

@@Thunderworks fr, they are so self obsessed

@@Thunderworks Indeed there were more important things happening around that time… *Napoleon*

If they are directly your great whatever grandparents you are entitled to membership in the sons and daughters of the revolution. Google it :)

@@joshschneider9766 I plan on joining when I finish High School and College.

@@joshschneider9766 I allowed my DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution) membership lapse a decade or two ago and have no offspring to pass it down to. I have seven documented patriots among my family who fought in the Revolution, one of them a woman.

DC Mc - I pretty much agree, but as we have seen in the last 70 years, 8 years in no longer considered a long war. I wish I could say it is, but it ain't.

America learned during the War of 1812 a militia won't be enough to defend America, and that a brown water navy isn't a blue water navy. We needed a standing army and a blue water navy capable of breaking a sea embargo the brown water navy failed to do. Nor did a brown water navy discouraged the British from impressing our sailors. Never forget...

@@ronclark9724 - I tend to agree with you. As I understand it, what you call our 'brown water' Navy, was basically stitched together of what was available, and I do believe your conclusion of it's power, is right. As I recall, it wasn't until about 1795 that the US Congress commissioned the beginnings of a proper 'blue water' Navy. I forget the cost, but I believe it was at least several million dollars, in the money of the day, to construct 10 decent ships, or so, which was a high cost at the time. Basically, this was done by about 1800, on the dot. It was not only done as a defense against the British Navy, which was a rather pathetic attempt, altho we did win a few battles, at not much loss, but it wasn't even close to the Naval might of the British Empire. But the real purpose, which was effective, was to keep open the trade routes of our merchant ships in the Mediterranean (to the shore of Tripoli, as the song goes). Not only was Britain impressing our sailors, as to them, regardless of the conclusion and treaty that ended the Revolutionary War, sailors from the States were still considered 'British citizens', in their eyes, and thus, subject to be 'impressed' (kidnapped), into the British Navy, which obviously, we weren't very fond of. Got to go, back in a bit.

Definitely plan on doing that!

@@yournewzealandfamily what about the 2021and 2022 Nascar cup series season and reactions and there's the next generation car see for selves.

Boatlift made me cry so hard. Many from New Jersey participated in it. So many boats I have never seen the like. That and all the EMS and EMT's who took off from all of New Jersey to help in the recovery effort. Half of my towns EMS and EMT squad took off for New York immediately. I know all the surrounding cities squads did too. A lot were volunteer squads. We sent a lot of paramedics and life flights too.

@@sidwha4665 They are brave people, because not knowing what happened and if they attack again is very scary. God bless those who risked their lives to save others.

Every reaction channel is watching the same stuff lol

The Civil War's impact on American society can't be overstated

Watch something on the Articles of Confederation, first, though. ru-vid.com/group/PLjLK2cYtt-VDhehVBOUiBAZGNkA5nrdR0

@@thomashiggins9320 - I tried to follow your link. As such, my computer belched it out, as 'do not follow', the main point. So, aside that I will not follow the link you provided, I suppose you must have had a point to make, what ever that might be. Please just say it, unconvoluted, and I will listen.

My favorite childhood memories were touring Jamestown and Williamsburg on the way to DC. 😊

I would also add Mel Gibson's "We were Soldiers" about the Korean war.

@@glennboyce2878 it's actually about the Battle of la Drang in Vietnam.

I must find my DVD of 'The Patriot' and watch again.

Yeah, that bit about the British turning their attention to the Southern Colonies was roughly where The Patriot is in its portrayal of the Revolutionary War.

@@thebikewatcher9819 Thanks for the correction.

I read that too. It was riveting.

Technically, it was a historical-fiction. The writer wanted it to be totally accurate to the facts, but he had to guess what exact conversations took place between people--except where he had letters available. It's a very entertaining look at real events from the American Revolution! And yes, the goal was to be as non-fiction as possible.

Konetchy - What do you mean? Is there a connection between Paul Revere and Paul St Louis, whoever that is?

@@dobiebloke9311 No I just find that piece of History interesting.

@@mr.konetchy7302 - If you are referrig to Paul Revere, I totally understand. What puzzles me, is the addition of Paul St Louis, in your comment. Still does.

Yes! I’m an elementary teacher and agree!

True. The founding fathers thought that by ending slavery too quickly, it would ruin the economy as the US was so dependent on slave labor, hoping it would as you said die out as it became less viable. Who would have thought technology would lengthen something terrible? In hindsight, though, it would have been better if they had nipped it in the bud and just abolish slavery from the beginning. It’s a good lesson as to why we should never drag our feet about important social issues. Yep! There’s your answer, fish-bulb!

When the Declaration (1776) and Constitution (1787) were adopted, the issue of ending slavery was still in the beginning of consideration. Slavery had been legal under virtually every society since prehistoric times. Ending the practice would take generations...it probably still exists even today in one form or another. No country officially abolished slavery until Haiti ended it in 1804. I think asking the 13 colonies to form a new country and win a war against the British Empire was enough. Asking them to abolish slavery and end global warming at the same time might just have been a bridge too far!

Every country in the world has some form of humiliating past and some form of glory. Everything in history is a matter of perspective and how it is understood.

@@huckfinn2850 No, ever country on Earth is perfect. Except for the USA

@@huckfinn2850 Wink

It’s not a matter of America forgetting, it’s the rest of the world forgetting that is the problem.

@kevin mcconnell i agree with you

And the Mexican American War.

In addition to those and the Mexican War, all against foreign nation-states, we also had essentially continuous, or at least continual, warfare with Native American groups, including the Northwest Indian War, Tecumseh's War, the Red Stick (Creek) War, the Seminole War and the Black Hawk War -- just for a partial list. Some of these were wrapped up into the War of 1812, and others took place either before or after that conflict.

What developed countries don't have freedom of speech and individual freedoms?

@@xXPurplePeopleEaterX It sounds like you are “Challenging Me” and my assertion that America is a Great Nation? When it comes to “Freedom of Speech and Individual Freedoms”, I think it deserves noting that in America, these “FREEDOMS” are not only “Understood” but, committed to writing! Our Forefathers created a couple of documents called the “Bill of Rights” and the “Declaration of Independence” that GUARANTEE THESE LIBERTIES TO EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN! That’s the difference my friend!

Thanks Joseph!!

I agree. The War of 1812 is often also called the "Second War of Independence" as it was essentially the war that decided that the United States would indeed stay an independent country and not return to its former status as a British colony.

Do the Articles of Confederation first, though.

Good analogy. 👍. A 'shotgun wedding' to use the traditional term.

War of 1812 wasn’t the brits trying to reclaim the colonies. More like the US biting off more than it can chew

@@KalEL224 Britain was impressing American citizens into service with the British Navy and we wanted them to stop doing that. Is that what you refer to as our biting off more than we could chew?

@@pauld6967 that’s not the start the war of 1812. The US invaded Canada trying to take over British lands Britain retaliated. Or did you not want to admit we started that one?

@@KalEL224 Nope, that wasn't us. Probably Canadian hooligans trying to distract us from the impressment happening on the high seas. :-)