There is no comparison between these barrels and a modacam barrel the Elrod barrel will win every time the modacam barrels are the best I don't think that anyone makes a better 22lr barrel. Beagleman
Any issues with the 457 action suspending these long heavy Barrels? Has anyone in the comments section ever seen the weight leveraged on that action become a problem? Any gunsmiths out there? CZ corporate… do you have any comment about this?
I've wondered that as well, I'd imagine this is getting close to the max amount you'd want to put on the stock tennon and grub screw setup. Shoots good tho.
Haha that's what happens when you only have a couple boxes of a particular lot. For my RimX I bought just a few of some random lots of ammo and just before I was checking out I added 1 box of x act. Due to price. I kind of forgot about it for a while then I brought it out when I was getting low on ammo and said let see. Truly hoping it didn't shoot good due to $$$. Well it shot stupid amazing. Basically like you last string without that one where you had some vertical stringing. It was .1 - .2. For whole box. I was actually upset as I am not buying that ammo for that price. But thankfully center x. Does the same thing. But I know how you feel when you don't have anymore of that great ammo. Sucks. But I have a spot for lapue in Ohio for testing coming in the fall. So I'll get all this hammered out. Great video
Hey Josh. Awesome video! Please put that barrel action setup into an MDT ACC Premier. I'd love to see how well that balances in that chassis. Also, isn't the 26" a touch too long for PR22/NRL22 - especially maneuvering through and around props? Would a 24" not be the happy medium instead?
It's going into the gen 2 premier once I have it. 26" isn't too bad for nrl. Most the props now are open props with minimal ports. I run 24-26" barrels quite often
Boy I am glad I saw your test. I bought a 24x1 inch last month and was disappointed with the performance of several ammos including TENEX. Oddly it was the cheaper Eley Match that consistently shot in the .2 area. SK LRM is next best. Mine is in a KRG Bravo and I just installed a Jard trigger. Once I get this dialed in I may part with my RimX and just shoot the CZ
Does a 24" or 26" barrel really make a significant difference in accuracy and speed in rimfire shooting compared to a 20" or 22" barrel? So that I just must get the longer barrel?
I went to the Lilja website, there is no 1-inch offering. .900" X 18" and .900" X 21". Waiting for my CZ457 Varmint MTR to show up. I'll see how it goes stock, but I'm gonna want some options.
Can you recommend an accurate barrel for the same rifle for hunting? I believe that barrel would hurt my shoulder if I carried it for longer than 10 mins.
@@bad_vaporizer depending on budget there is a lot of options. Proof sells a carbon prefit which would be the most money or go with any smaller diameter prefit like a .9" x 16"
Hello, Josh... been awhile since I made a comment on your channel, though I do watch it. I would like to share my most recent enlightenment. Using a scope on a CZ 457 at 50 yards, I discovered how to shrink by tight groups even further. I have found it difficult to focus on the reticle while maintaining in the background awareness of where my aim point is. I have found that using the "T" reticle mark works for much tighter groups with ease. I align the horizontal part of the "T" under the aim point and use the vertical part to align the left/right aim. This method has eased my effort to focus on the reticle while being aware of where the aim point is resulting in MUCH tighter groups with ease.
This is the first time I’ve wanted a Lilja barrel - wow! You were like Elijah on that last string - I kept screaming at my phone - stop talking mid group!!! 😂😂😂
i put the lilja varmint taper on my benchrest gun... finally broken in this year... consistently getting 249s and 250s at the local shoots on ibs targets... it loves tenex
Josh, you have this Match 22lr LOT/Ammo Combination dialed in. I have 3-CZ457 Rifles; an MTR w/ Factory Barrel w/ 3-6oz Jarred Trigger, one with a 23" Lilja Barrel on a Chassis w/ 3-6oz Jarred Triger, and a Royal w/ a Timney 1lb flat blade trigger. What is the LOT number for that Eley Team 22lr ammo? Where do you get it from? Thanks.
I’ve been very happy with the Eley Match. I’ve been sticking with a Eley Match and Eley Tenex. I default to Wolf Match Extra for casual shooting. I should mention I’m using a Tikia T1X and And Anschutz Model 64
Josh I had everything marlin made back in the day. From semiautomatics tube fed mag fed same with the bolts. They all shot lights out with cci mini mag, could it be the 16 micro groove barrels. What's your thoughts
I guess I got lucky with my 457 Franken-build - started with a 457 American that easily did 0.3" at 50 using Eley Standard, put in a take-off Varmint (non-MTR) CZ OEM barrel and an MTR stock and with SK Standard+ at 50 it's a 0.2" MAXIMUM grouper (Leupold 12x), and at 100 using same it's 0.4" without problems (using a bog-standard Harris bipod - definitely no Ransome rest here!). That was my third Franken build - prior 2 used "Match" MTR barrels and wasn't thrilled. This bog-standard Varmint take off on the other hand is phenomenal. Total cost? $250 including second hand stock and barrel from the LGS. And the fact it LOVES SK Standard+ is a massive bonus.
The new Lilja barrel on my 457 hasn't had enough ammo testing yet. The factory barrel shot SK Standard well, and the Lilja barrel seems to like it. It also liked the SK match target. I have 4 or 5 lots of Standard to try and maybe 2 or 3 of the Match Target. This may have to happen closer to the fall season, seeing it is 108⁰ - 110⁰ almost every day here in Las Vegas. Haven't tried the Eley Team much yet, I have a few thousand rounds of that for my 10/22. I'll be watching to see how yours performs.
Thanks for sharing you're knowledge Josh, always look forward to to your video's. When you purchase a new barrel are you looking for a certain inside bore diameter, says 0.217 by 0.222 and if so what lands and grooves are you looking for, if any ? I was also wondering what chamber dimensions are you running ? Thanks again for all your help, Dave
Hay Josh what shims do refer with the lilja same all you rifles shoot well do you run the same shim in all you barrels if so what do you use Thanks great videos
Changing the barrel moves the gun from ARA Factory Class to Unlimited...correct? Noticed the targets are an ARA Factory Class target instead of the smaller Unlimited Class targets
If your shooting Ara I do believe that would move you to open. I don't shoot benchrest so I'm not 100% sure in their rules. The unlimited targets are smaller, the targets in the video are unlimited targets
I’ll say it again….26” is WAY TOO LONG for the CZ ACTION!! It’s just not strong enough…not to mention having tenon screws and not being threaded. 21-22” max on a heavy barrel. Seen it over and over. The top Smith’s will tell you the same thing. If the action was strong enough then the benchrest guys would be threading and using CZ actions for unlimited class.
@@dcs27006 lots of smiths now offering heavy barrel cz barrels. I've had my custom cz with a long heavy barrel for quite a while now. It's been good to go. No signs of any issues
@@PursuitofAccuracy heavy barrel is ok Anything past 22” just doesn’t work well. With that being said yes it will shoot…but a properly lapped 21-22” barrel will out shoot. Muller works, Shilen or any of those. A 21-22” will out shoot them every time. It’s just too much weight for the action. I’ve seen multiple benchrest guys improve accuracy by shortening them from the muzzle even knowing they were cutting off the tightest part of the taper they still increased accuracy. Spend the money on a custom Shilen or Muller that slugs tight at 21-22” and you’ll be happy. I get the weight helps balance. But I see too many flaws in the action to hang 26” off of it. One of the top Smiths in our area Blake Gann will tell you this same thing. Love the content and not trying to discredit anything you do….I just hate to see people thinking 26” is “the most accurate for CZs when it’s not”. Now in PRS style it may make you more accurate by improving your balance. But in overall BR style it won’t be the most accurate.
@@dcs27006 yeah I think most guys going after 24-26 heavy barrels are prs shooters looking for extra barrel weight to balance the rifle with. I'm not at all claiming the barrel dimensions are increasing accuracy at all. Appreciate ya watching and commenting
@@PursuitofAccuracy absolutely! And I can see where balance outweighs a lot in PRS style shooting for sure. Lots of tricks on helping accuracy on those CZs…if your not removing the barrel often or anything 638 loctite will make the barrel/action as good as it can be without threading it. Use the tenon screws only to secure the barrel while loctite is drying. Once dried it’s almost as good as being welded lol
Good informative video Josh. Thanks. I am interested in the Lilja for my 457. I shoot mostly BR. As others have said, I see only 18 and 21 inches on the website. Do you have to special order the 26 inch barrel? Is there an advantage in 26 versus 21 for BR shooting?
