The point gap between Gretzky and 2nd place (Jagr) is bigger than the point gap between 2nd place Jagr and 100th place. I didn’t believe it until I looked it up. Insane.
@@oilersridersbluejays Deadmonton fans like you are why I don't care if Yanks win our Cup for the next 100 years. A "second assist" is often a freebie tossed in to pad stats...Id sit through a review of all his assists to see how clear cut they were.
He also has the most goals in history so the "cheap second assist" logic is illogical. Gretzky was the best offensive player ever, period and it didn't matter what era he played in he would still dominate offensively.
@@projektkobra2247 - obviously Gretzky has the most secondary assists since he has the most primary assists and the most goals as well (and thus the most points). It would be a bit weird if he was #1 in all categories except secondary assists. It sort of comes with the territory.
They also didn’t play as many games in a season. The game was different back then , I’m aware of that but 20 less games a season during an elite players prime could equal a lot of points . But players can’t play until their in their 50’s anymore so you can’t really compare eras but you can compare players to other players that played in the same era .
Yup. He is the only player that I accept may have been as good or better then the great one. And he played his prime career during the dead puck era AND came back from cancer. I mean super Mario is a very earned title.
@@patrickthomas2119 well said ... His back was not always healthy &&& was always a huge target for hooking, slashing, holding, etc. -very often not called ... He will also tell that the biggest thrill was captaining Team Canada to Gold in the 2002 Olympics (my opinion the Greatest Team ever assembled) !!!!!!!!
@@patrickthomas2119 His first 10 seasons were played before the dead puck era and even the first two seasons weren't that bad until he retired the first time(unless we are currently in a dead puck era). He really didn't play in the true dead puck era until he came back at 35 years old, past his prime.
He has 4 of the top 10 goal seasons (and is +6 over Brett Hull [the highest not-Gretzky season]), 9 of the top 11 assist seasons, including 1-8 (and is +49 over Mario Lemieux), and 9 of the top 11 points seasons (+16 over Mario Lemieux...and Gretzky is the only player to ever record a 200 point season, and has FOUR of them).
@@craigusselman546 - Gretzky’s 163 assists (in one season) was secure even when prime Gretzky was still playing lol. That record is completely insane. Even more insane than his 50 goals in 39 games, which is also insane.
Jagr didnt play during a half year lockout in 95, full year lockout in 2004, he left the nhl from 08 to 11, and another half year for a lockout in 2013. Thats 5 whole seasons of gaining no points...
I think the video would deserve an update due to the fact that Stan Mikita and Peter Šťastný were Slovaks even though the Czechoslovak flag looked like the Czech one looks like today. It is confusing because few people in the world know it. The only Czech in the ranking is Jaromír Jágr. Otherwise great video.
Fans who were too young to or were not born during Gretzky’s playing years do not know that he easily could have gotten more than 100 plus goals in his career if he was not so determined to pass the puck as often as he did instead of shooting the puck
I think he was going for the “more assists than anyone else has points” title as soon as he broke Gordie Howe’s record. He knew he would be the only player in history who could ever do that while simultaneously scoring the most goals too. He stopped caring about scoring goals at that point.
Gretzky, being the all-time leader with assists alone, is probably the most amazing sporting statistic we'll ever see. His dominance of the game is something we may never see again in sports.
It's amazing that some of them are defenders and still put up so many points. And it will be interesting to see whether it'll be Ovechkin or Crosby who first passes Mikita.
anyone who understands hockey will tell you that points alone do not define the worth/skill of a player ... Mark Messier & Jerome Iginla providing excellent examples !!!
maybe but hockey is undoubtedly becoming much more international in the great players. the dynasty Blackhawks were very Canadian but their star was American and Hossa was Slovak. the Lightning were led by Russians Kuch and Vasi and Swede Hedman more than anyone. etc. even Crosby's Pens, obviously led by Sid, but you had Russian Malkin right there and Phil the Thrill on the last 2 teams.
It seems Gretzky was going for the “more assists than anyone else has points” title as soon as he broke Gordie Howe’s goal record. He knew he would be the only player in history who could ever do that while simultaneously scoring the most goals too. It’s as though he stopped caring about scoring goals at that point so he could focus on this one insane achievement.
Stan Mikita was born in Czechoslovakia..but he was an immigrant to Canada, and learned hockey here as a child. That's why he was on Team Canada in old 72. Cuz he was Canadian.
@@joeheid2776 Wayne never even played 1 game with a player who was in the top 20 scoring at the time they played together. The Pens gave Mario a few to play with to help him win a cup.
@@dannycarlow8204 And neither was Lemieux at that time. Coffey wasn't in the top 15 then. Neither was Recchi. And certainly not Jagr. Trottier would've been but he was a 4th line role player by then. I get your point but Mario was in the same boat timewise.
@@joeheid2776 Ron Francis certainly was as well. The pens had to bring guys in. The oilers drafted all of their hall of famers. Anyone could have taken them and 3rd and 4th rounders definitely aren't expected to be hall of famers. Mess - 3rd round. Kurri and Anderson were both 4th rounders. Obviously not very sought out by anyone for their potential greatness.
You can't deny that hockey is (and always be) Canada's national sport. Canadians are the best at it, despite the media pundits who try to convince you of otherwise
Same for Czechia. Unfortunately, hockey has been on the decline in our country, hopefully the bronze from 2022 and the gold from this year's world championship will pick it up again.
Expect to see Crosby launch up list roght at the end if this video is made again in a couoke years. I think Sid still has a couple hundred more points in him.
McDavid has the potential to reach 2000+ points. Gretzky was a true team player and used his other players to their and his advantage to simply win games. He was also able to create a lot of open ice for himself and his teammates. McDavid tries to do everything on his own and that is one main reason why he will never be on the same level as Gretzky. Hockey is a team game, not an individual game. I don't get why so many act like Gretzky wasn't as good as people think. I have to ask then. Were you even born yet or old enough to have seen him play in his prime? A few videos on youtube don't cut it. If you weren't old enough, stay out of it then. He was that good. Would he have as many points today. Maybe, maybe not, but he would most likely still be top all time no matter what era he played in.
Sakic could have potentially caught up to Mario and Stevie Y if not for that snowblower accident. I remember hearing talks about him coming back to the Avs, but then he got his hand mangled in a snowblower... such a Canadian thing to happen.
@@tombradyshow1222 Why didn't players in the 50's score so much more than Wayne when the goalies had worse equipment and no masks? Shouldn't it have been incredibly simple to score? Why was Wayne the only one to be so far ahead ahead of anyone in his era compared to statistical leaders in any other era?
@@dannycarlow8204 Thank you for this! I get so tired of people saying athletes 40 years ago couldn't do what present day athletes can. Every sport has improved due to a number of reasons, so you can only compare the era's that they played in. It's not rocket science but to some people it seems like it is.
@@Gretzky9999 In Gretzky's time and before they ate hotdogs, drank booze and smoked in the dressing room. Many players were also not "career" players...like they are today. No matter how you look at it and no matter what equipment was used/ wasn't used....his is a feat that will stand the test of time.
Ok well then that means Bret Hull is American because he grew up in the US and was developed here for most of his early years. He also always played for an American team
He moved from Czechoslovakia, not Slovakia. That does not make him Canadian. I was born in Canada. Moving to Japan at some point does not make me Japanese.
@@dannycarlow8204 you do know that Slovakia and Czech made-up Czechoslovakia right? Surely you’re also aware that you can get citizenship in country you weren’t born in right? Maybe take 2 minutes to look up his bio. He’s referred to as a Slovak-born Canadian. Not to mentioned he played for the Canadian national team.
@@vikrim1 when he was born, what was the country called? I know what happened after. Just what was the country named at the time of his birth? The country's name in 1940, not 2023. Be honest because I know the answer. I just want you to say it. Having citizenship in another country doesn't change where you were born, look it up.
@@dannycarlow8204 this is a silly thing to argue but first off, I never claimed he wasn’t born in another country I’m saying he’s recognized as a Canadian national so his stats are as a Canadian hockey player. Second, although at the time of his birth the country was Czechoslovakia, he’s also recognized as a Slovak-born Canadian. Again, take 2-minutes to read his bio from any of multiple of sources and we can spare ourselves this wasted time of arguing over semantics.
This all-time points leaders graph might technically be accurate, but what they're not including is Gordie Howe's (and others) WHA records. They were a professional league who merged with the NHL. While considered a professional league and the reason why Gretzky wasn't eligible for "Rookie of the Year", and of their goals or assists were considered null and void. Howe would be much closer to Gretzky if they included those 7 WHA years.
Why would they include the WHA totals? This is for the NHL. If you do professional records you have to include pro Euro leagues and the likes as well. That's a whole different list.
It's been very debated whether or not the WHA was up to the the NHL's level. I mean sure Howe was killing it there, but he was around 50 years old and many critics would argue "no way he puts up those kind of numbers in the NHL". They may be right, in his final season in Hartford he only put up 41 points.
@@dannycarlow8204 Why? Because they actually included some WHA statistics. Like I mentioned, if WHA wasn't up to NHL standards then why was Gretzky not eligible for "Rookie of the Year" because the WHA was considered a professional league so he played his rookie year there. Why rather then simply erase the history of the WHA, the NHL called it a "merger" with four of its teams absorbed into the league. Points records were null and void, yet they still acknowledge that the players actually spent time in the league, so statistics such as "rookie season" or "active player" or their history with a franchise was still valid. Guess this was the NHL's way of punishing the players who dared to play for their rivals.
@@jayanxiety Have you lost your mind? Nobody is erasing the history of the WHA. Those stats all still exist under the heading of WHA Statistics. Do you think player's stats from the KHL should be added to their NHL stats as well or the XFL stats added to NFL stats? The stats of the NHL are for hockey players playing on NHL teams against NHL teams. Nothing else. WHA stats get separated just like we separate stats from players that play in the Swedish Elite League after their NHL career. Of course player's time in the WHA gets acknowledged. That's because they played there, just like a player's time in juniors gets acknowledged. Everywhere a player plays gets acknowledged in their own personal stat history. I don't think you even understand what you are trying to go at here.......I know I don't. You make no sense. Maybe you should do a video like this one that says "All time professional hockey career point leaders". Then you can finally be happy because all the numbers will be together again and you'll hopefully stop your crying.
It’s so insane that a player that good (2nd all time in points by 1986) had a 10 year head start on Gretzky, but Gretzky still somehow passed him in points before Dionne even retired… 😮
Thing about the current goal leaders is they changed the game so that people can’t score as much as Gretzky did ever again. His lead will never be met again. They don’t allow for it now.
You could hook a lot more in the 80s than you can today. If you touch someone's glove with your stick today, it's a penalty. Auston Matthews can cut across the ice without worrying about a headshot. It's different today, but easier in some regards.
The great Gordie Howe first to 1500 and everything else up to 1800. Gretzky first to pass Howe and first to all levels beyond Howe. As painful as this is to say it looks like this list is missing Ovechkin.
@@JaN-nh2fo well, it's Jágr we are talking about here. When he was 40 years old, everybody was telling him that his hockey carreer is over. 12 years later he still plays. Sure, not as good as in his prime, but still good nontheless...
@@dannycarlow8204 By your logic, Czech republic also didnt exist, only Czechoslovakia, so it would be Czechoslovak flag, not Czech flag. But that doesnt even matter because in 1940, due to Nazi Germany effort, the country was devided, and first republic of Slovakia established, so Stan Mikita was in fact born in Slovak Republic, which used the same flag with the coat of arms being separate (so fun fact, todays Russia flag was originaly Slovak). Also, we are talking about his nationality, which in no way shape or form was czech. You could argue with Peter Šťastný that at the time, he was actively playing for Czechoslovakia so you might have a point. But still, most recently, he represented Slovakia and is of Slovak nationality. If Czechia changed the flag after the split, should Jagr still have the old flag next to his name? You make no sense. Hence, the Slovak flag should have been used.
Cool graphic. One thing that's missing though is ± statistics. In 1970-71 Bobby Orr had a ± of +124, which I don't think was ever matched. Even Gretzky never came close to this. Orr's ± was pretty high for a few years when he played.
That's correct. Jágr had 1079 points as a Penguin, 319 as a Ranger, 201 as a Capitol, 130 as a Panther, 96 as a 96 as a Devil, 54 as a Flyer, 9 as a Bruin, 26 as a Star, and 7 as a Flame. 1921 points. Mark Messier had 1034 points as an Oiler, 691 as a Ranger, and 163 as a Canuck. 1887 points.
@@loilt5091 and that's what this is. All time career points leaders. The only criteria is how many points did you score in your career. What is bogus about it?
Czechs do not claim him as their own. That fight is between Slovakia and Canada. Also, the Czech flag was the Czechoslovak flag so more confusion for everyone.
@@881terror I hate to break it to you but he was born May 20, 1940 in Sokolce, Czechoslovakia. Whether you like it or not, that's when and where he was born. Those are the facts of the matter.
Wimp Gretzky points came a lot against laughably weak western teams...and he got a lot of dodgey second assists. A construct to sell the game to different Americans, who all thought hockey was Slapshot.
@@oilersridersbluejays -You are probably one of those adult creeps who have his sweater. I wonder what they think of weirdos like you. I grew up in hockey..had pro refs camp with us as a kid. A rising tide raises all boats including the thug goon bodyguards and the refs...not to mention those precious gates. He was protected to save the game from a new WHA, and the loss of Orr, Hull, Beliveau, and Howe. But sugar-coated dreams are enough for your ilk.
@@projektkobra2247 Every star was protected back then. That's why it was called the enforcer era. Of the 80 times in history that a player has amassed 300 penalty minutes in a single season, 67 of them came in the 80's and 90's. The 86, 87 and 88 seasons are the only seasons that averaged one fight per game while the average has only been one fight every five games for over a decade now. Yzerman was the most protected. He had a bunch of psychos on the bench with him.
