Very interesting tutorial. I am kind of an old school person, having my Yamaha DX7 MK1 since 1986 and making my own awesome patches every since. I know how I can make sounds on my DX7, but this is the first time I see how you use FM8 to make sounds. It's very different. I can see that FM8 can do a lot more than the original DX7....
That simple delay trick was awesome! In fact, maybe you should do a short video just on that. I've done a lot FX by using simple delay on very short time scales but I've always linked the Left and Right channels. Then you turn the feedback up and it creates this comb filter effect. By changing the Hz in tiny amounts the pitch changes. But still, after fuckin around with Ableton's effects for 10 years I still learn new tricks all the time. I try to approach every tutorial like a Gold Miner patiently searching for that little nugget of precious metal.
yeah, reggaeton song are great, thanxs for your tips and way to share the divine knowledge of making reggaeton melody, thank you I be following your tutorials now....gracias...
HEY thank you man i was just done with 30|30 trial and i had seen alot of tutorials but none told me how to animate parameters from FM8 to Ableton REALLEY THANK YOU
@DubSpot At 12:09 when you say you could throw a loop on if you want. You are working with the "D" OSC. You click and it adds another red dot allowing you to put in that loop. What do you click at that point to add the loop in? I can seem to only be able to variate the existing dots that are already there, but I knew there was a way to add more like you did. BTW, I agree that FM8 is overlooked. I've been messing with it lately and there is all sorts of great sounds and options. Thanks!
So i've been using massive for a while and i've been able to do some great stuff. After a while though it becomes pretty easy to make those heavy mid range sounds, and I wanted to make something more advanced and complex. I've never really understood FM synthesis before but this video really made it simple. Just had to say thanks :)
@Senj1n Lack of richness as in armonics? On a FM synth with 6 operators, ext audio modulation capabilities, saturator, overdrive, tube amp, and cabinet emulation? Are you sure that was the definition you were going to? Secondly, the "definition" in lows can be achieved with EQing, making filter feedback, among other things included in FM8. Isn´t trillian sample based anyway?
As I understand FM is actually modulating the phase of the wave, but actual Phase Mod algorithms calculate the modulation differently to FM algorithms, thats why FM and Phase Mod sound different, am I kinda right here?
@ElectricMoodz yes I totally agree, grouping your synths together and having one just for sub really gets a great sound. Also using corpus to add sub bass is cool too.........
from what i've watched in a lot of tutorials it seems like once you kind of get the idea of what a basic bass sound is you can really just manipulate it on taste.
i have a collection of over 15k presets for FM8 :). but selecting other sound banks is a little slower now, because FM8 has to readout so many files within my custom folder.
Dude, I am at this point now. Massive is great but it's becoming to limited for me. I really wanted to try and understand Fm Synthesis. Very excited for fm8
When I for example click osc "F" then go to add an envelope, there are none to choose from, it says "Init" only in stand alone mode can I see/use the envelopes. What's up w/that?
How do you record just the mod wheel? when i try it deletes all my notes as if it thinks i'm rewriting them. please respond as soon as possible, thanks a ton!
This is is an awesome video but my problem is that I am learning that "doing this to that does this" but I still don't really understand how and why. Id like to comprehend the mechanics of fm synthesis so I can be creative with my synth design. Can anyone recommend a good video/article/site whatever?
One thing i dont understand with this tutorial is why bother creating feedback loops in order to make saw waves from sine waves, when you could just change the sine waves to saw waves in the menu?
@Senj1n That has more to do with the sound designer than with the synth itself. Do you at least know why it sounds like it sounds? Or you use trillian presets? You know what´s really going on?
The DX7 MK2 is the ultimate ambassador of FM. I am trying to show that through my demos. FM8 is excellent at software level. But make no mistake about it. Nothing can fully replace a HARDWARE DX7 MK2 it is on its own.
Yeah, FM8 can make a lot of things besides bell sounds, but it really makes sense for few of them. For me, FM8 remains equal to bell sounds. And Alchemy is better at that. It's fancy though.
i would say not the best in terms of creativity and uniqueness (as the title says) but hey at least you explained the features and controls of the synth.. yep but than again no in depth in terms of FM where for example i would love to know and learn more.. I personally often seek these synth tutorials because i try to learn create new pro sounding sounds rich and fat, know what i mean? push it to its limits, try to mimic HW synth with it. I would like to thank you for your effort and keep up! Maybe some guys here think its useles because everyone can create soud like that just tinkering around. you know what i mean... maybe also show us some effecting. (i know dubspot is paid service and not the cheapest one i might add) next point i would like to point out is that whole video is just spinning circle around one sound color i mean nothing changes there.. by infinite modulating one oscilator by another you are not getting heavier/ dirtier sound out of it. From my impression - less modulating more effecting, even a filter there ma would not do damage! Thanks for reading this comment :D. Please dont take it as insult!!! peace ;)
That was awesome :D Kinda got bored because you never tried it with the song for the whole video and I was like "It's gonna sound like shit when he mixes the bass up".. Turns out, sounds great xDD
that's simple. just create an sound you like. put a chorus or a flanger over it and 2 different lfo that have the same tempo. and the first with a sine and de second with a sawtooth. If you create an envelope that fades between lfo 1 and lfo 2. small distortion maybe. not to much. and just play with effects till you like it if you want to know more. Just PM me
funny so many kids think fm8 is complex because they read it somehwere, .... i find it WAY easier to make a patch in fm8 then in any substractive soft synth ... there's a way to learn things inside and out and it is called a MANUAL. read it ;)
I really wish I understood any of this:P:S Alas, I am but a humble guitar player... Maybe someday synths won't seem like alien technology - maybe o.0 Thanks for posting, at any rate!
@TehUndeadCpt i can make pretty insane yois in FM8 alone with no external effects, anyways, triangle waves are your friend in FM8 for talking basses (NEVER use the wah in FM8, its lazy and makes it sound like shit). anyways, make one operator a sine wave with a .5 ratio, then open another operator with a triangle wave, and feed into the sine wave, and play with your pitch whell, you will already to start to hear formants! send me a message if you want to get in detail.
