Fun fact: On the topic of Nicktoons getting cut off abruptly, Ed, Edd, & Eddy creator Danny Antonucci originally tried to pitch his show to Nickelodeon, but he quickly retracted his proposal because the network wanted more executive control over the series. Suffice to say, I think Danny seriously dodged a bullet, as I doubt Big Picture Show would’ve been allowed to happen if the Eds were owned by Nick.
Dude got the longest running Cartoon Network show of all time out of it. I'd say that's a great fucking deal. Not to mention it's one of the all time greatest cartoons ever and still has a huge following.
The only self-sabotage I'm willing to defend was "Avatar: The Last Airbender." Surely, there were a few executives who knew, if the show ever got TOO popular, the other executives would ask for more seasons. A LOT more seasons. It must've been a tricky balancing act to keep the show successful enough to finish exactly when it needed to, but not SO successful that Viacom would be compelled to un-finish it.
That makes sense. Part of the reason SpongeBob can stick around for so long is that it's episodic; who cares if one episode doesn't connect to the others?
In all honesty viacom along with nickelodeon would have shut down years ago if spongebob had ended and that would be a good thing because Viacom is one of the worst companies I have ever seen alongside disney they can go to hell
I will forever love SpongeBob SquarePants, but it really sucks how Nickelodeon has treated so many of their cartoons. My Life as Teenage Robot is a good example and the way it was treated pisses me off. It also infuriates me how Nickelodeon's SpongeBob obsession has created such much hatred for SpongeBob. Especially fans of Invader Zim. But to be honest, Nickelodeon doesn't even treat SpongeBob well. Way more reruns than new episodes and the reruns are sped up so they can fill in commercials.
@@icecreamhero2375 but they noticeably speed up the episodes that you're better off just watching them on streaming (which might be what they're trying to get you to do)
And y'know? Zim could've been a bigger success if they actually stuck to their original plan and made a Teen Animated Block. Zim was actually picked up by the Network because they originally planned to make a block for an older demographic and Zim was meant to be the first show made for said Block. It got treated rather poorly by the Network, production was troublesome, it was a huge mess. I understand it didn't initially succeed, but it garnered a HUGE fanbase after it had been cancelled and it was stupid not to have gotten a new life until almost twenty years later. It did extremely well on Nicktoons, being the second most watched program (it was beat by Avatar), it had tons of merchandise that had been sold. It's a shame it took so long for them to even CONSIDER bringing it back.
Frankly Viacom should just create their own Adult Swim, load it up with some new cheap 11 minute shows, along with reruns of Invader Zim, Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, (only seasons 1-3 of) Spongebob, South Park, Beavis and Butthead, Daria, Dr. Katz, Ugly Americans, Wonder Showzen, even Drawn Together, and they could rotate some obscure junk in there too (Shorties Watchin Shorties, Freakshow, Lil' Bush, etc.) and give shows like Invader Zim a new episode order of have Jhonen create a new series entirely. And they could easily hit the ball running with that kind of programming block. I mean are they really content with their Nick at Nite numbers? That shit can't be doing particularly well, especially these days, and certainly not compared to what I imagine Adult Swim continues to draw in.
@@BlinksAwakening Pan Pizza brought up the same point as well when talking about glenn martin dds. IIRC he also said that why would Viacom do that when they can just dump all their adult programming on Comedy Central.
Just imagine e if Tom Kenny got pissed off enough to leave. Then they'd REALLY be screwed! Sure, Nick would try to replace him, but the fans would NOT accept it. He's voiced the character for so long, people would have a cow if he got replaced.
100% agree! I've heard tons of SpongeBob imitations, and none even come close! Tom Kenny leaving (or God forbid, passing away) would be the end of the franchise.
They'd probably just get to work on perfecting an AI that could perfectly recreate the voice. I mean that tech is here as it is, and perfecting it can't be far away, I'd be shocked if it takes more than a decade at this point.
'Spongebob' is to Nickelodeon what 'The Andy Griffith Show' is to TV Land. The only cash cow they can rely on to generate the most revenue possible leaving everything else twisting in the wind.
Also what "South Park " is to Comedy Central and "The Simpsons" are to Fox Network. A cash cow is sometimes impossible to kill. Look at PBS. They already had 53 years of Sesame Street, and even recent racist controversy at Sesame Park has failed to shut down the series yet. And for an educational network that relies on funds and grants instead of commercial promotion, that's a given.
@Will N Whether "Sponbgebob" can survive 53 years as long as Big Bird remains to be seen. Matt Groening is apparently going to his grave to see that "The Simpsons" will be ubiquitous forever even long after he's gone. "The Simpsons" seems to have a longer shelf life than his other creation "Disenchantment", though "Futurama" has proven to have long lasting fans hoping for a possible re-boot.
@Will N I hear you. November 10 will exactly be the 53rd anniversary of "Sesame Street". November 10, 1969 was the exact date it premiered on PBS, then known as NET. Detroit showed it on Channel 56 WTVS, which is still in existence. You're probably right about Spongebob's longevity. It won't last forever, but for now it doesn't seem to want to cease either. The same thing goes for The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, and Teen Titans Go. Detractors will celebrate especially on the day that Teen Titans Go will finally be cancelled. They are pretty sick of that show. So far, the longest and oldest TV show in TV history remains NBC's "Meet The Press", which has been running constantly nonstop on Sunday mornings since 1947. Even before that, it's been a radio show for two years. So that's so far 77 years of "Meet The Press". That's quite a longevity on TV as I ever heard or seen it.
"So what are we gonna do about this new show, Glitch Techs? I don't think it's really gonna work out..." "Well, we can't just shove the failure on Nicktoons Network anymore. Greenblatt will never let us hear the end of it." "...I know! Let's shove the failure on Netflix instead!" "GENIUS!!"
Speaking of Netflix, in the case of their kids and family section in the animation department, it appears they seem to be doing the exact same thing as Nickelodeon by canceling a lot of stuff that people wanted to make, including an animated adaptation of a comic called Bone. And funnily enough, Nickelodeon was actually the first choice for it back around the 90s.
We really dodged a bullet when Pendalton Ward turned down Nickelodeon as the home for Adventure Time when the network revealed he wouldn't get the creative freedom he needed.
One of my favorite Nickelodeon "success" stories is how they greenlit "Fairly OddParents" for a mere six episodes, having no faith in it whatsoever, but since they happened to air it as the pre-show for their "real" E-ticket attraction, "Invader Zim," guess which show got higher ratings by a total fluke? Well, since Nickelodeon had no plans for a second season of FOP until the very last minute, they were left with a seven-month content drought on a show that was really looking to be their next SpongeBob. Whoops!
Even if Cartoon Network still clings onto Teen Titans Go, they atleast give some other shows a chance and still air Gumball. What Nickelodeon does is EA levels of BS
Cartoon Network has been the experimental network since spongebob basically, even if taking risks is what brought Nickelodeon early success in the first place n
It's why, imo, CN has been the source of banger after banger with only a few dry spells (the mid to late 2000s & currently) compared to Nick. A chronological laundry list of shows from the 90s up into the 2010s that are seen as mostly classics that were given time to cook & find an audience as a result, as well as sources of nostalgia for many. Although they have been falling into familiar patterns when it comes to TTG...
i fucking hate how they never aired the series finale of as told by ginger (which was a BIG tv movie by the way) and some of the unaired episodes of the show didnt air until 2016...
Yeah, I don't understand why Nick delays the airings of completed episodes. A lot of these episodes would be released years after the show already got the ax. Wouldn't it make more sense to just push it out as soon as possible and pretend it's not there anymore?
It's very painful to see that Nickelodeon doesn't give a chance for cartoons that ended up not as successful as Spongebob and usually just put the rest of the episodes on Nicktoons channel. Let me be clear about the situation. Remember the 2010s cartoons were all about plot-driven cartoons and adult-oriented shows, something like that appeals not only to kids but adults as well? Apparently, Nickelodeon did miss out during the decade. Outside of Korea and TMNT reboot, mostly they show most of their gross-out cartoons like Sanjay and Craig and Pig, Goat, Banana, Cricket, and their infamous sitcoms that I don't give a shit, at least after Victorious and Big Time Rush have ended it. And these underrated cartoons like Harvey Beaks and Robot and Monster didn't stand out among the crowd and soon aired on Nicktoons and being forgotten for many years. The Loud House may be successful, even rivaled Spongebob, but it wasn't enough to save Nickelodeon from its downfall. On top of this, Stephen Hillenburg *didn't want spin-offs at all.* But he sadly passes away, so Nickelodeon greenlights those Spongebob spin-offs without his blessing, at least he was aware of one of the spin-offs before he passed away. So basically, Nickelodeon squeezes Spongebob as much as they wanted until it dries out. The Loud House might become the other Fairy Odd Parents or the original rugrats. As I said, Nickelodeon missed out on the 2010s decade. But maybe, just maybe, that there could a new life for Nickelodeon. One word: Paramount+. maybe they would change for the better for the sake of the steaming service. They may move on from traditional cable television and hopefully learn from their mistakes and try something new.
For quite a long time, I've actually had aspirations to pitch a show idea I'm passionate about to a network like Cartoon Network one day. But now I've been having second thoughts now that I take into consideration on what channels Nickelodeon are doing to their animation, especially since CN is now *wholly* owned by Warner Bros now. The spirit of the networks in the 2000s and 2010s that I grew up with that were fun and gave me aspirations of maybe wanting to join in just isn't there anymore, at least in the United States. Even with stuff that I didn't get to fully experience in their prime like the mid-2000s era of Nicktoons Network, I feel like I really miss out because the creative energy and vibes that I get from looking back on those channels are long gone. This is especially as I get intrigued into "nicher" properties from way back when like The Ren & Stimpy Show and Puyo Puyo. It's sad, but it's true... R.I.P. to the ambitious eras of the things that I once grew up with 💔 Really love watching your Media Mementos stuff, TAS. The way they're presented is really unique and stand out from the crowd. Here's hoping you can get more of the recognition you deserve for your hard work, you're severely underrated ;3; 💖💖💖
I mean times have changed, there are other networks you can pitch it towards hell you can just post it online and have the word of mouth go through out
Even cable television is dying. I still have hope, I would pitch to Disney if they green light my show into a full-fledged series. Hopefully one day, my show would be a miracle not only plot-driven cartoons but the whole industry to get me into making animated feature films I always wanted.
The only thing that can kill Spongebob literally is taking him out of the ocean and placing him without protection on the land. Or place him in Sandy's tree dome without proper water protection. He'll dry up within seconds. A network can only get greedy enough to make Spongebob into the show that will never die, ala "The Simpsons", "Family Guy", "South Park", "Sesame Street", etc.
Nickelodeon prided itself on being "Creator Driven" when then initially started to produce their own animated shows in the 90's, but when it became clear they had money maker in SpongeBob, they tossed it right out the window. It's network that screws creators over, not help them. I can also confirm that the Loud House has taken a massive dip in quality.
CatDog is really surprising, since Nickelodeon actually pushed it hard early on (tons of promotion, merch, an original theatrical short with a higher animation budget that played before the first Rugrats movie) all that, yet it falled into the Nickelodeon Rock Bottom
Close, but killing the sponge seems tougher than it is. Not even the death of creator Stephen Hillenberg could stop the cash cow from overflowing. And Hillenberg pleaded before his death not to spin off his creations into spin-off shows for financial purposes. With the spin offs of "Spongebob's Coral Camp" and "The Patrick Starr Show", Nickelodeon didn't listen to Hillenberg's pleas, like the avaricious businesspeople they are. I particularly like "Loud House" because the family lives in a imagined Detroit suburb (I'm from Metro Detroit myself, so I consider that an honor), and the show has their legion of fans, but they also have plenty of detractors as well (the creator, Chris Savino was a known sexual harasser, the characters could be unlikable in certain cases for slapstick purposes, Lincoln's teacher, Mrs. Johnson seems like a groomer/cougar who likes Lincoln a little too much for a woman her age, Lincoln has way too many girlfriends, Lori's a bossy bitch, etc.) It's a take it or leave it kind of show. "The Loud House" has beaten "Spongebob" in the ratings time after time since their debut, but it seem like they'll always be #2 second best behind Spongebob. It's not for ack of trying, though, since Savino was a former writer for "The Fairly Oddparents" and "Dexter's Laboratory" before creating "The Loud House"; it's just too bad he got canned. Like John K. & Dan Schneider had to learn the hard way, there are some things the Nickelodeon suits doesn't tolerate.
@@icecreamhero2375 Royal Woods, Michigan is a fictional town in the Metro Detroit area. It's based on Royal Oak, Harper Woods, and Huntington Woods, all metropolitan districts of Detroit. Chris Savino himself was born and raised in Royal Oak, Michigan and came from a family of 9 kids. He upped the ante to 11 kids, and was originally going to make The Loud Family a family of Rabbits. He changed the rabbit concept to humans and got the greenlight from Nickelodeon. For the record, Butch Hartman (The Fairly Oddparents; Danny Phantom) originally grew up in Benton Harbor, Michigan, Richard Pursell (Ren & Stimpy; Spongebob Squarepants) originally came from Milford, Michigan, and voiceover Rob Paulsen originally came from Livonia, Michigan. Of course, Royal Woods is fictional, so don't look for it on a real map; it doesn't exist.
For the longest time, Nick was where creators could create. That’s how they got Rugrats and Doug and Ren & Stimpy and all of those shows’ offspring. Oh Yeah! Cartoons gave us Fairly OddParents and a few other shows. We had Zim for a couple years. And then came SpongeBob. I’m glad Jungle Movie eventually got to be made. And the Rocko and Zim specials eventually got let out of the vault. As for Zim, devil’s advocate, they want their viewers to be in demo so they can tell that to advertisers. Teenage eyeballs are worth more on MTV.
To be fair, whenever Nick does a reboot or at least a reunion special of a classic Nick property, like how they did to Hey Arnold and Rocko's Modern Life, they actually did get the original creators, voice actors and the rest of the crew to be in charge of the revival. As for my take on The Loud House as a casual viewer, I think the show is doing well for a long-running series. They have episodes that help make the show enjoyable to watch such as Leni being in charge of her siblings while Lori is now in college. And the Casagrandes spin-off series is a fun series for having such cultural diversity.
Nickelodeon launched a shorts program to create new shows. Nicktoons might be going through a redemption arc. Maybe they finally learned a lesson. "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot. It's not gonna get better. It's not." -Dr. Seuss Viacom now owns the rights to Garfield and is producing an animated show for it. I hope against hope they won't kill it for Spongebob.
This is probably not the best comparison, but if there’s one thing that one of my friends learned from episode 25 of VeggieTales Abridged, it’s when Larry says, “Maybe I don’t wanna do the show anymore. Maybe I wanna try something new.” That’s exactly what a lot of people should learn these days, and not just with shows or any other type of media, but with stuff in general. We all may not like it, but sometimes, just like you said, trying new things can work. Too bad the executives at Nickelodeon don’t seem to remember that. It’s almost like they don’t really understand what success truly is. Success isn’t always about money, but that’s how Nickelodeon sees it. It's no wonder a lot of people have been losing trust and respect towards them, especially for those who actually want to make their own stuff.
13:57 For the record the KCAs also do the "bullet-point" approach with SpongeBob about as often as they don't, but in a different way- when they take that approach, they announce SpongeBob's win during the commercial breaks (as they do with any of the awards they don't have time for in an hour and a half)
Look. I loved Spongebob and the Fairly Oddparents. But God am I annoyed that Spongebob is *all* the network is known for now, especially after going back and rewatching Invader Zim and the Angry Beavers. Hell, the irony about Catdog and Spongebob still makes me laugh because Catdog was going to be the moneymaker and they forced everyone to work on it when they wanted to work on Spongebob - the network saw that and how much cash Spongebob raked in and decided to make him into the network's mascot by happy "accident". Also, thanks for reminding me that Disney charbroiled and killed the Muppet reboot on a cliffhanger.
I was really disappointed when they canceled Invader Zim. And I never cared for that excuse that teenagers and young adults wouldn't buy merchandise. Every goth in school had Invader Zim stuff.
The only time I got genuinely mad at nickelodeon was with the treatment of Rise of the TMNT and Glich techs. Is the worse. Besides, can we talk how they see to always hire sex offenders and con artists as major creators, and always giving them more and more works?
This was going on before the Sponge even got all that powerful. Anyone remember KaBlam? It ran for 4 seasons in the last 90's. They gave Action League Now a chance for it's own standalone series. But they had one episode of the Henry and June Show that was well-received. That spinoff had so much potential to see what it was like in their personal life. Then it disappeared from existence until it found it's way onto RU-vid years later. There were Nicktoons I thought were a little better than KaBlam, but that franchise is without a doubt the most underrated Nicktoon ever. Other than diehard Nickelodeon fans from the 90's or the people who watched Nicktoons TV in 2004, nobody remembers the show and all it's genius. There's no home media beyond a video tape from a pizza promotion in the late 90's, and Nicktoons Network took off KaBlam in 2005 when they did the rebrand. It got confined down to some of their shorts being shown on commercials as "KaBlam presents." It's really crazy how many bad decisions Nickelodeon has made over the years.
I find it absolutely hypocritical that they merchandise the hell out of Avatar and Zim, and yeah, most other Nicktoons in such a nostalgic fashion when they treat even their most successful cartoons so shabbily. You'd think they would have just pulled a Ren and Stimpy and start airing Zim on MTV, where it would have worked FAR better (this is back in the 00's, before they turned into a reality TV network, just to make that point clear), but no. Yet, when it turned out it had a fandom, then they just kept shoving plushies and action figures and T-shirts into Hot Topics as perennial favorites. But what REALLY ticks me off is how they treated both TMNT shows. The first one was quite successful and they would run it regularly. If not daily, at least a reasonable weekly time slot. Then the first of their movies came out and they purposely sit on new episodes for months on end to hype the movie up. Something I don't quite get, and other networks pull the same crap. Things were still fine until the second movie came out. They pull the SAME thing, but this time, the movie is an outright flop, and when it was clear that a third film was out of the question, they started mistreating the hell out of the series, waiting even more months for them to start up again and dumping season 5 on Nicktoons. Then they had this great idea to reboot the series WAAAAAAYYYYY too soon in hopes they can get a rebooted movie series. That is still involving Michael Bay's production company because, yeah, the problem was the cartoon series, not a terrible production company headed by a military fetishizing hack. And barely a year after TMNT '12 ended, in fact almost a year before the last episodes aired, they gave us Rise. Now, I really liked Rise, it had potential, it wasn't a cheap retread of the 2k3 series, but it REALLY needed at least 2 or 3 years for the last one to clear out the '12 merchandise. But fine. So, they had the BRILLIANT idea of making most of the episodes 11 minutes long so they can air a half episode and stretch the first season, and Playmates decided to OVER produce the first wave of toys just after TRU died. Oh, and in development, Nick changed its head of programming to someone worse than the last guy who didn't LIKE this series. Given that and the fact they realized that a new movie reboot wasn't going to happen, they effectively ALL sabotaged the show with terrible airdates and long hiatuses of FINISHED episodes. So they dump most of season 1 on Nicktoons, and cut the already ordered second season's episode count WHILE it was far in development. Seriously. You WANTED the reboot. You insisted on rushing a reboot out to keep the brand up. Then NOPE! Let's put ALL the funding into "Side Hustle" a show that exists.
Ren and Stimpy being a kid's show on a kid's network makes a lot of sense. Adult animation didn't hit mainstream yet, and even The Simpsons was seen as a kid's show at the time. Merchandising didn't help its case. I'm sure in time Rugrats would have still became the hit it was, but Ren and Stimpy put Nickelodeon on the map and started the first major push in the animation renaissance period. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was pitched to CBS all the way back in 1987, but wasn't sold because they were and original property that wasn't selling toys and Ralph Bakshi pitched Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures in its place. Zim, however, Viacom should have known better. They should have simulcast it on MTV or even MTV 2, the way they did with Ren and Stimpy, and it would have been the perfect place and time too. MTV didn't become the reality TV network yet, and at the time they did have (at least on MTV 2) an animation block that consisted of Beavis and Butt-Head and Aeon Flux reruns as well as a couple anime series, something called "Stankervision," and this thing where they used video game Mods to reenact music videos. Zim would have had the perfect demographic in that airing, a college aged cartoon viewership. As it stands, Zim is the show Nick couldn't wait to get rid of until they realized they could make bank selling toys and shirts at Hot Topic.
@@mightyfilm Fun Fact: Nick wanted to revive Zim, but Jhonen Vasquez said that the budget that Nick gave him was too Small. Since Horror is what made Zim so great, making Zim scary on a low budget is too hard for Jhonen. Especially when he's more experienced in comic's compared to Animation.
@@orangeslash1667 Sounds like something they'd want to do on the cheap for Paramount +. I'm sure the money they would have made off of the merchandising would have given them budget enough, but I guess they want to let that all go to some awful sitcom featuring an internet celebrity they'll get bored with half a season in. GOD, I hate Nickelodeon.
As of yesterday, according to the Nickelodeon Press, they launched the Intergalactic Shorts Program 2.0, which can let a lot of people from around the world their stuff become something new. Hopefully this will bring Nickelodeon back in the right direction again.
Technically, Avatar was not meant to last long. It was decided by the creators, not the network. Though it could make sense for Nick to not give Avatar enough attention as Spongebob.
I hate how Nickelodeon still cares so much about SpongeBob that I don't watch the that show anymore. If Disney did have both Pepper Ann and Recess as the first two Disney Channel original animated series instead of relying on ABC, SpongeBob could have been produced by both United Plankton Pictures and Disney Television Animation for just Disney Channel then Disney would have done the 60 episode run of just 3 seasons like most other Disney shows (that's if Nickelodeon had refused in picking up that show and instead picked up Angela Annoconda).
God imagine if we lived in a universe where Disney did a 2-3 season run of SpongeBob before being forgotten about and Angela Anaconda was a hugely successful Nick show that was still going with several movies
"Jellystone" unfortunately turned out to be a flop. A lot of fans didn't like the changes C.H. Greenblatt made to the series (changing the character's genders, transforming The Cattanooga Cats into Chuck E. Cheese-like animatronic robots (I in particular hated that angle), sneakig "Chowder" into an episode, who is not an original Hanna Barbera character from the 50's & 60's,etc.) Was the fuss over "Harvey Beaks" worth this abomination to old H-B characters? I guess it was to C.H., as he gained attempted revenge against Nickelodeon.
It's interesting, big companies seem to do this really commonly. They'll subtly sabotage new, small stuff they're not 10,000% confident in, while still giving all their time and money to their tired, overdone golden boy. No promos, hardly even an official mention anywhere, absolute garbage time slots, it sucks. I saw this happen with Sonic BOOM on Cartoon Network as well, and it was the first time I learned about this. It's not just in TV but with movies and games too. disney didn't advertise Atlantis much because it was a 2D theatrical release in the early 2000s, they knew it wouldn't bring in crazy cash so they didn't even half-ass it. nintendo did the same with every Chibi Robo release, hardly a bit of promotion because they didn't see it pulling Mario or Zelda numbers. It's fuckin disgusting man, I can't imagine how discouraging it must have been to be an artist before the internet. Like shit still sucks now what with companies essentially bullying through copyright and banking on users not understanding fair use and not having the cash to go to court even if they did. But God damn it as long as something uploads and stays up, you can get more eyes on it. You don't have to put all your faith in greedy ass companies who's higher-ups believe their money will go with them to the grave.
I think CatDog was also a victim but even early on or something. It originally was thought to be the next big hit back when it was new (Nickelodeon even chose it over SpongeBob and immediately ordered 70 episodes and giving SpongeBob only 6) and you can tell they thought this since they already made so much merchandise of the show in preparation of it's release which is why it looks like there's so much merch of CatDog. Ultimately, it didn't really have much impact on its viewers at the time, and after SpongeBob came out the next year, everyone allegedly was talking about how cool SpongeBob was and wished to work over there instead of CatDog. Nickelodeon probably realized that CatDog wasn't doing well at all and they basically abandoned hope by 2000, which makes sense why the last season didn't even air until 2004-2005 on nicktoons.
Catdog didn’t last long simply because it had Too many Mean Spirited characters. Children don’t want that in their cartoons all the time, they needed characters that related to them, NONE of the characters of CatDog did that
Amy Winfrey pitched the idea of "Making Fiends" to Nickelodeon and it was moved to Nicktoons and was cancelled after only SIX episodes because it failed to catch on like SpongeBob did. To make matters worse, apparently Nick has the rights to the series locked up and Amy can't pitch the show anywhere else or do anything with the world or its characters. Thankfully her career hasn't ended and she's even directed some of the best episodes of Bojack Horseman, "Free Churro" and "The View From Halfway Down".
Personally if I was running Nickelodeon I would use the fact my network has a show that prints money to basically make whatever we wanted, and have it last as long as the creator wanted it to, if it did well, hey extra money, and a way to replace the thing if it ever stops making money (any losses would be made up by SpongeBob. You basically have a safety Net that not only stops your fall but gives you money
This isn't just a nickelodeon thing. Cartoon network has its own obvious issues as they seem to love to jam teen titans go down our throats in recent years
Despite being acquired Canadian cartoons set to air on Nickelodeon, at least "Zokie of Planet Ruby" and "Hamsters of Hamsterdale" are original ideas. I just hope Nickelodeon doesn't treat them badly in favor of their cash cows or cling on to them too much if the former cartoons end up being just as successful as SpongeBob, The Loud House, and/or PAW Patrol.
I don’t mind Hey Arnold!: the Movie. I remember enjoying it when I saw it in theaters and even today if I watch it I’m fine with it, but it does seem like it would have been more successful if it was a made for TV film. The fact they decided to not have Hey Arnold!: The Jungle Movie be made until over a decade after the show ended is sad. It’s clear that should have been the theatrical release film between the two and that would have served as a great way to end the series in either 2004 or 2005. It’s a shame how Nickelodeon has a constant record of ending/cancelling shows before they have a proper conclusion. At this point they’re motto is essentially: “If it’s not SpongeBob, then what’s the point?”
@@abdullahibouraleh6919 True. Its interesting though, because the first season of AT feels like it was written with Nickelodeon in mind, and then they grew and did their own thing from season 2 on.
R.I.P invader sim : was not sponge bob R.I.P makeing fiends : was not sponge bob R.I.P my life as a teenage robot : was not sponge bob R.I.P jimmy Newtron : was not sponge bob these shows will be missed
3:27 - Imagine having a thermometer playing the _SpongeBob SquarePants_ theme song sticking out of your asshole. 7:00 - I was wondering if this show was going to make an appearance on this list. This was one of my favorite shows as a kid. I haven't seen it in years, but I still remember most of the episodes from the original two-and-a-half seasons. It had such a unique premise, art style, and aesthetic. You don't see Streamline Moderne in cartoons very much. 7:56 - This is another show I liked as a kid. I remember staying up late in the summer while school was not in session just for the possibility of seeing it air in the 3:00am time slot. 11:08 - My dad and I used to watch this show every evening before he went into work and before I went to bed. We both liked (and still do like) military-related stuff, so a show about sentient penguins acting like soldiers was an entertaining premise for us. I have good memories of that show, and I remember being disappointed when it dropped off the face of the earth one day and never appeared again. 11:53 - My friends used to make fun of me for liking this show. They insisted it was a "toddler's show". But I didn't care. To this day, I will still defend it from critics. It wasn't one of my favorite shows, but I liked it because it was different from other shows on the network at the time. I can appreciate differentness.
The way they bank on Nostalgia for their 90's shows Rugrats, Rocko, Arnold ect isn't going to work for shows from the other decades since nearly every Nicktoon since the mid 2000's has been treated poorly & wasn't be able to grow a fanbase as large as the 90's shows. The over reliance on old proprieties and Spongebob will only stagnant Nickelodeon's possibilities for business.
When I saw Avatar the last Airbender as a kid, I didn’t get its third season on Nick’s main channel. No, there was one weekend when they had all of season 3 airing during that time. FOR ONE WEEKEND!!! Thank god, I was lucky enough to see that! I would’ve gone five years without seeing the finale, like My Life as a Teenage Robot.
Today Episode: Nicktoons on Strike Nickelodeon: Countin' me money, money sweet than honey. Money, money, this. Money, money, that. Profit will make me wallet fat. What?! Profits down 3 dollars from last month?! I gotta start runnin' tighter ship around here! C.H. Greenblatt: Thank you for choosing Nickelodeon. Here's your change. Nickelodeon: Mr. Greenblatt! C.H. Greenblatt: What? Nickelodeon: What's with all this "change" nonsense? Chris Savino: Over and under, grab the end, put it through here, up and around, round the horn, bring it back home. Nickelodeon: Chris! I ain't payin' you to play dress up! (Greenblatt signs deeply.) Breathe on your own time. I don't pay ya to breathe. C.H. Greenblatt: You hardly pay us at all. Nickelodeon: OH, that reminds me. I got somethin' for ye. C.H. Greenblatt: Ah, yes! Our meager restitution. (He takes the envelope and smell it.) Ah, the sweet smell of payday. (He opens it and finds a pair of underwear.) Huh?! Nickelodeon: Oh, sorry, that's my dry cleanin'. (He trades envelopes with him.) Here's your check. And here's yours, Chris. Chris Savino: I can't accept your money, Mr. Nickelodeon. Drawing is my passion. C.H. Greenblatt: What is this?! You're making me pay you for animations and plots ?! What is the meaning of this?! Have you gone off the deep end?! Nickelodeon: There's gonna be a few changes around here. Every time I catch you two goofin' off, I'm gonna charge ya for it. Chris Savino: 18... 19... and... 20. Here ya go, Mr. N. I think this should cover all my nonsense. Oh, and here's an extra fifty cents for when I was trying my shoes. C.H. Greenblatt: Uh, Chris? What do you think you're doing? Chris Savino: I'm just giving Mr. Nickelodeon the money I owe him. C.H. Greenblatt: Well, I'm not paying that cheapskate Nickelodeon one cent, and I suggest you do the same. Chris Savino: Why? C.H. Greenblatt: We've got to unite as workers and demand the respect we deserve from the boss! In fact, you and I should go on Strike! Chris Savino: Wow! You and me go on strike? C.H. Greenblatt: Sure! After all, you like your job, right? Chris Savino: Right! C.H. Greenblatt: And you wanna keep working here, right? Chris Savino: Right! C.H. Greenblatt: And while you work here, you expect to be treated fairly, right? Chris Savino: Right! C.H. Greenblatt: Then let's go on strike! Chris Savino: Yay! A strike! Goin' on strike! We're goin' on strike! I still don't know what strike means. But we're goin' on a strike. (He inadvertently kicks Nickelodeon in the rear-end as he sweeps the floor.) Hey, guess what, Mr. Nickelodeon? Me and C.H. are gonna go on strike! Nickelodeon: A strike?! Chris Savino: Yeah. Nickelodeon: You mean you're gonna make picket signs? Chris Savino: Yeah. Nickelodeon: And you're gonna make protest speeches? Chris Savino: Yeah, yeah! Nickelodeon: And you're gonna demand me respect?! Chris Savino: Yeah! Noo... No! C.H.! You didn't tell me I was gonna get fired! Without Nickelodeon, I-I-I... Oh, Greenblatt, could you hold me? I think I'm gonna be sick. C.H. Greenblatt: Chris! (He grabs and pulls Chris off the door.) Newsflash, Chris! I gor fired, too! (Chris suctioned to the door, vice versa.) This is exactly why we need to go on strike! He can't treat us like this anymore! He owes us for all the precious, irretrievable moments we've wasted in this trash heap. (Greenblatt and Chris look through the door to see Nickelodeon blowing dust off his old "Help Wanted"` sign.) Soon, he'll realize he needs us more than we need him. We are workers united! (Chris hold Greenblatt's hand.) Ahem. Chris Savino: Sorry. C.H. Greenblatt: Just do exactly as I say, Chris, and in no time, you'll have your job back more. Chris Savino: And more? (Imagines himself as employee of the year.) C.H. Greenblatt: Alright, Chris, now listen up. I'm going to teach you how to strike. First, we must get rid of our uniforms, (He takes off his hat.) they are a symbol of our oppression. I want you to throw your hat on the ground like so. (Greenblatt throws it into the ground and stomps on it.) Now, stomp it into the dust! Your turn, Chris. (Chris hesitantly takes his hat off.) That's the idea. Now, throw it on the ground. Chris Savino: (He attempts to do so, but the hat sticks to his hand like gum as he wails.) I can't do it, Greenblatt! This hat is my friend! It never oppressed me. C.H. Greenblatt: Chris, you're pathetic! Look, I threw my hat to the ground. Officer: Aha! A confession! Next time, think before you litter. (He sticks a ticket on Greenblatt's forehead.) C.H. Greenblatt: Okay, pay attention, Chris. Now we're gonna make picket signs. This is a very important part of striking. Chris Savino: Like this, Greenblatt? (Holds up a picket fence on a stick.) C.H. Greenblatt: Not a picket fence. Picket sign Chris Savino: How's this? (Holds up a sign that has a finger picking a nose.) C.H. Greenblatt: No. This is a picket sign. Nickelodeon Unfair. Short, sweet, and to the point. Chris Savino: How about this, Greenblatt? C.H. Greenblatt: Chris, it's "Unfair," not "Funfair!" Boy: Funfair? Where? I could go for some fun. Chris Savino: At Nickelodeon. Boy: Hey, everybody! Let's go to the Funfair! (A crowd trample C.H. Greenblatt to the station.)
Chris Savino: Nickelodeon is unfair! Nickelodeon is in there! Standing at the concession! Plotting his oppression! JoJo Siwa: What the heck does that mean? Chris Savino: I don't know. C.H. Greenblatt told me to yell it at people. JoJo Siwa: Then you must be Chris Savino! Chris Savino: Yes! JoJo Siwa: Dude, you are like a cartoonist legend! Will you sigh my jacket? Chris Savino: Anything for an aspiring actress. So, did you come down to help out the cause? JoJo Siwa: No, I came to take your job. (Chris is shocked. She grabs her jacket and runs into Nickelodeon.) Hey, thanks, dude! C.H. Greenblatt: Attention, Chris Savino! You are a terrible striker! You just let your replacement cross our picket line without so much as a single threat. Chris Savino: I'm sorry, Greenblatt. How about I try the signs again? C.H. Greenblatt: Forget the signs! I've got something for you to do. Go stand over there. Chris Savino: Like this, C.H.? C.H. Greenblatt: Almost. A little more to the right. And... perfect. Attention, people of America! You have been cheated and lied to! Wife: I knew it! (She slaps her husband.) C.H. Greenblatt: The gentle laborer shall no suffer from the noxious greed of Nickelodeon! Man#1: Hey, what's that guy talking about? Man#2: I don't know, but he's got a megaphone. C.H. Greenblatt: We will dismantle oppression board by board! We'll saw the foundation of big business in half, even if it takes an eternity! Chris Savino: Gee, I don't know what Greenblatt's taking about, but he sure sounds convincing. C.H. Greenblatt: With your support, we will send the hammer of the people's will crashing through the windows of Nickelodeon's house of servitude! (Everyone cheers.) Girl: Wow, all this supporting is making me hungry. Boy: Hey, everybody! Let's go get a bite. (Everyone cheers as they're run into Nickelodeon, trampling C.H. Greenblatt once again.) C.H. Greenblatt: Nobody gives a care about the fate of labor as long as they can get their instant gratification. Chris Savino: That was a great speech, C.H.. You practically had them eating out of your hands. Nickelodeon: But they didn't, did they, Mr. Greenblatt? Cause they were too busy eatin' out of mine. I wish you two had gone on strike earlier. Thanks for attractin' all these payin' customers with all your signage and your sloganeerin'! Chris Savino: Alright, Nickelodeon. You've gone too far this time. You can pick on me, but C.H. Greenblatt is a great leader. We are workers united! We're tired of your smelly greed! And we're gonna saw all your tables, and we're gonna smash stuff with the people's hammer. And we're gonna... we're gonna... um... C.H., what was that other part? C.H. Greenblatt: Dismantle your oppressive establishment? Chris Savino: Yeah, that, too! And me and Greenblatt are gonna stay on strike until we get what we deserve! Even if it takes forever! (C.H. Greenblatt's eyes become bloodshot as he opens the door to his house, takes a bath, looks in the mirror, and sits in bed, wide-eyed.) C.H. Greenblatt: on strike, forever? (Imagines himself as an white bearded old man holding a sign "Nickelodeon Still Unfair" cobwebs branch from him to the ground. Old Man Chris Savino approaches him.) Chris Savino: Hey, Greenblatt. I bet old man Nickelodeon is gonna break any day. Eh, C.H.? Eh, C.H.? C.H. Greenblatt: (Back to reality as he lies in bed screaming.) I gotta beg Nickelodeon for my job back and put an end to this nightmare! (He runs to the door and opens it, but Nickelodeon is there about to knock on it.) Nickelodeon: Oh. Uh, evenin', Mr. Greenblatt. Uh, I was just in the neighborhood and I, uh, though I'd drop by to... beg ya to come back to work! Nickelodeon is a wreck! I'm ruined without you and the rest of the original creators. (He grovels at Squidward's feet) The new staffs I hired is ruinin' the place! And the worst part is, they won't leave me alone! (The staffs are JoJo Siwa, Fairly OddParents: Fairly Odder and The Patrick Star Show appear right outside the door) New shows: Alright, Mr. Nickelodeon! Nickelodeon: See what I mean?! (sobbing) Greenblatt, please! You gotta come back! C.H. Greenblatt: You'll give us anything we want? Nickelodeon: Yes, anything. So what do ya say, Mr. Greenblatt? C.H. Greenblatt: Your story breaks my heart, Mr. Nickelodeon. Why don't we take a little walk and discuss my terms? Nickelodeon: I got a bad feelin' in the pit of my wallet. (Meanwhile at Chris Savino's house, where he sits on bed listening to country music) Chris Savino: Gee, being on strike with Greenblatt sure is a kick. Greenblatt's words are still buzzing around my head like an angry bumblebee. Greenblatt was right! I can't just sit here, it's time for action! (He kicks open his front door, hammer and saw in hands. He runs to Nickelodeon) I will restore the working man to his rightful glory. I will dismantle this oppressive establishment board by board! (Pulls up a floorboard. Then saws a table in half) I will saw the tables of tyranny in half! Gnaw at the ankles of big business! (Takes a bite out of a wooden beam.) C.H. will be so proud! (Morning to C.H. Greenblatt and Nickelodeon walking to network station.) Nickelodeon: Well, Greenblatt, those were intense negotiations. C.H. Greenblatt: I'm glad you saw it our way, Mr. Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon: Now I can fire them staffs and get my golden creators back. (Greenblatt notice something and screams) Well, see ya at work. (He seems not to notice the disassembled Nickelodeon Studio as he puts his key where the door used to be. Chris Savino peeks out from the pole, trying to hold in his laughter.) C.H. Greenblatt: C-Ch-Chris. W-W-What have you done? Chris Savino: I did exactly as you said, Greenblatt. I dismantled the establishment. Now we'll get our jobs back for sure. (Nickelodeon walks through the rubble of the Nickelodeon Studio and sits in his chair. When he opens his eyes to see the debris. Only the floor and base of the walls remain, so when he looks straight ahead from his chair, he can see Chris and Greenblatt at the dilapidated door frame. Nickelodeon falls into literally pieces.) Nickelodeon: C.H. Greenblatt! Chris Savino! Both: Yes, Mr. Nickelodeon? (Chris is excited as Greenblatt is nervous) Chris Savino: Here it comes. Nickelodeon: In order to pay off these damages, you two and those other old creators are gonna work for me, forever! Chris Savino: Ya-Hoo! The strike worked, C.H.! We got our jobs back, forever! ("Forever" echoes inside Greenblatt's mind once again, and his eyes in bloodshot.) One eternity later... (A skeleton C.H. Greenblatt and skeleton Chris Savino working at Nickelodeon)
@@dylanneibch6171 OK, I think you’re being a little too extreme with Chris Savino and C.H. Greenblatt here. Yes, they both got in trouble with Nickelodeon (albeit for different reasons), but it’s also still true that their stuff hasn’t/still isn’t being treated that fairly. I know what Chris did was very wrong and some could say inappropriate, but he should’ve gotten a second chance because he did actually seem legitimately sorry due to the actions he caused. He even said that he had to go to therapy. All that C.H. did was just speak out.
Great and informative video! As much as I love Nickelodeon's content, the way they treated their shows that aren't SB PISSES me off, with Teenage Robot being the worst offender IMO. I'd much rather work at Cartoon Network than Nick nowadays.
It's great spongebob became an overnight success but the other nicktoons paid the price for it. A lot shows should have went on longer than what they did. Rocko's modern life, aaahh real monsters, hey arnold, kablam, the angry beavers, catdog, the wild thornberrys, as told by ginger, invader zim, chalkzone, jimmy neutron, my life as a teenage robot, danny phantom, and avatar. Rocket power had a great run in my opinion, so it didn't need to continue. Catscratch, the x's, el tigre, back at the barnyard, the mighty b, and making fiends had potential.
I never knew about how they treated avatar because I was 10 at the time when it premiered but I do remember season 3 being impossible to keep up with back then and I watched the show religiously back then with my sister and also the last Airbender is now going to be milked with the opening of avatar studios
What's funny is Nichelodeon is owned by paramount and viacom, same people who own MTV. About the time they killed Invader Zim, MTV would have loved that show I'm willing to bet.
You know. SpongeBob should've been made as theatrical shorts and movies, television specials, comics and short webtoons instead of television series. If they want him to be popular as Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse, then they should've done that idea instead. The Peanuts did very well because of their specials and movies.
If theatrical cartoons was still a thing instead of fading into obscurity due to budget issues, declining two reel shorts nor anything in between (Unless animation studios do that on occasion, but not as much as the golden age of animation studios were.) and didn't enter television, it's most likely that Spongebob Squarepants would be more popular than on television, and be more timeless as Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Popeye, Woody Woodpecker, Felix the Cat and many other classic cartoon characters. Heck, Gertie the Dinosaur is still more timeless as it was in 1914, except not many people knew Gertie was and most people who were alive in 1914, died.
16:55 Fun fact about that one: The air dates of the third season are a complete trip. Of the 20 episodes, 12 aired on Nickelodeon between August 9, 2003 and July 4, 2004, four aired on Nicktoons Network, one on November 24, 2004, one on November 14, 2006, and two on October 22, 2016, while the remaining four were released on CBS All-Access on January 12, 2021, a mere two months before that was replaced by Paramount+.
20:30 There are TONS of terrible stories about Nickelodeon's mistreatment of their shows, but the one that affected me the most was The Fairly OddParents. The show was actually doing quite well on the main channel, even during its 10th season. New episodes were set to premiere in late September 2016, but Nickelodeon pulled them and instead opted to make viewers wait months for new episodes just for it to be shoved onto Nicktoons in a less than desirable timeslot (Wed. @ 9PM). It would air on the network for months until its final episode in airing order premiered in July 2017. Sure it may not have been the worst case of mistreatment from the network, but it stung a lot.
I found it weird that Nickelodeon pulled the plug on Invader Zim right in the middle of the show's second season production. Nickelodeon has done alot of nasty stuff before but abruptly pulling the plug on a show that has low ratings, but a solid fan base, is the worst thing Nickelodeon has done.
Imagine the world where Sniz & Fondu's creator didn't leave the network. SpongeBob got it's spot because that other show was dropped when the creator left. Imagine the world where SpongeBob didn't get it's spot. Yes we would've lost something huge. But it could've been a short term loss and a long term gain.
