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The whole before reaching the Devola and Popola fight presents the Shadowlord as the ultimate opposition force that you must destroy, but Ending B drives it in deep that he's just figuratively and literally the same as you. Just a guy who wanted to save his sister and his people from a terrible disease.
He is literally nier and the original lol. I guess dev and popola really fuck up to not kill or at least subdue nier replicant body to be possessed by shadowlord
@@carval51 well to be fair the shadowlord only cared about gestalt Yonah, and kidnapped the replicant Yonah against devola and popolas wishes because he was tired of waiting. Plus Weiss also got amnesia from Nier hitting him so he forgot the whole plan.
@@amogus3596 well it's still good, like seriously I prob would be like that and it's not like he's against the whole world or something as he still help them to help yonah in a way. popola could just kill replicant nier and remake him again and save yonah first considering one sole goal of nier is to save his sister and it make him more cooperative. in a way it's their fuck up, plus in all honestly no matter strong our nier is they could also ask for the whole android army in the world to send reinforcement to subdue him since it's kinda humanity last hope bastion
If you watch Nier Orchestra 12020, Nier (Shadowlord) did not have much faith on the government after waiting for so long so he chose to take matters to his own hands and escape Yonah and bunch of Gestalts. He also admitted that he don't really cares about what happens to the world as long as he can save Yonah.
Many Years from now Nier will be remembered as the man who destroyed the world. His outfit will be acquired by machine life forms in their trials in automata.
Even though Ending A is probably the most positive (at least in the original game when Ending E was only just part of a light novel), it still would've led to humanity inevitable extinction, followed by Aliens invading Earth for some reason, which results in a glorious mess where androids fight in a supposed endless cycle of war against machines. All brought to you by the brilliant and somewhat deranged mind of Yoko Taro.
I would hardly call it a happy end, and humanity is dead long before the Aliens arrived because of it. It isn't outright said, but you are given the info to underatand. The Gestalts can't remain sentient without the Shadowlord, and you kill him. This causes every Gestalt to relapse... which results in them becoming Shades. When this happens, the Black Scrawl takes hold of the corresponding Replicants, and they are all doomed to die a slow death.
@@yoinkiez exactly this to me is the saddest most unsatisfactory ending also NieR killed everyone just to get his sister which means NieR didn’t unlearn his selfish ways also the way yonah snubbed kaine does not sit well
The worst of it is that this was all part of the Flower’s ultimate plan to destroy humanity and become the new god of its replacement, the androids and machines.
Drakengard : you were just finishing your business with the big bad baddie that escapes to another world, somehow this action causes you to slowly doom the another world you chased big baddie to Nier : you're just trying to save your sister / daughter, but that action would cost you the entire humanity. But you don't give a shit anyway Automata : nothing you do actually matters
I can not fathom how tragic 4:18 does to you. Her brother risked everything to save her but the original Yohna remained compassionate even after what she's been through. Replicant Yohna would have felt the same way if she knew the entirety. Technically, Replicant Yohna has ultimately driven the Original Yohna to die.
I think she was cursed to die regardless. Her Replicant contracted the black scrawl so it was terminal and her Gestalt couldn't fully link with her body anyways. + The replicants gaining consciousness probably would have made the unification impossible, since they're hearing voices from their bodies separate to their own
@@lowhp_comic yonah would still live on as human and Replicant being sick, the human sciencetis couldnt not find a way to save yonah so their prioritey was to save whole humanity instead of only yonah so they lied to nier [shadowlord] telling him she will be healthy after 1000 years so they just seperated her soul and body,and she was not fully turned into a human because Shadowlord[Nier original] had to became one with Nier replicant, Or as a Back up Grimoire Noir and Weiss have to fuse and it would ultimatley turn every soul into their bodies again
@@lowhp_comicnot really? The Grimoires were made specifically just in case something like this happened. It was possible to force the reunion, and while there would probably be some other problems down the line, such as split personalities possibly being in conflict for the bodies, it would all be worth it cause the next generation of humans, no matter how small, could be born, finally free of most of the problems from the past.
I think the great thing about Nier is that no one really did anything wrong, that's what makes it such a memorable story. Everyone had their own motives and you can sympathise and agree with all of them.
He sit his ass and expected everything to go according to Popolas/devolas = gestalt project lol the only time he did something was when he kidnapped Yonah
I'll never forget facing the Shadowlord for the first time and i how freaked out at the music syncing with the start of the fight. It's pure brilliance.
It's haunting that you can hear the gestalt brother call out to Yonah at 10:53. Even though their speech is supposed to be all gargled, that name rings out clearly. Really added to the moment
During that final 3-hit sequence, starting at 10:25, if you look closely, you can see that he's crying (his tears are yellow). You might even say that the final magic blasts he sends out are like his "tears" too :(
I love the music transition @10:25. How it goes from Shadowlord's boss theme having the orchestral cover the epic part- giving it Replicant Nier's Vibe to fight for what's his. Then to the choir- a balance between the showdown of Replicant and Gestalt Nier, To the music box- which represents Gestalt Nier's lost will to live after what Shade Yonah does.
@@emm.kash708it's been like 2 years since I played this game, so I'm a little rusty! 😂 In route A, the protagonist (replicant nier) kills the evil shadowlord, the monster who took his sister. When he takes him out, it's a cool moment and visually striking, but the silence and long take makes it a bit unnerving. With the context that route B provides and your understanding of the shadowlords true identity, the scene is suddenly not badass anymore, but very tragic. It lingers on the protagonist who just unknowingly killed his human self and doomed humanity to extinction. I don't recall the scene itself changing between routes, but the added context from route B changes the tone entirely. I'm not sure what you're referring to with the perspective switch, but like I said it's been years since I played the game.
Somehow I blame nier and not, he in his egoist ways kills a lot of people, because he didnt try to understand others, even the shades or what they were, when popola and devola told him the truth, he didnt even care, he did what he wanted, he doomed mankind and the androids. He will will be remembered as the man who destroyed the world, but I understand, what would you do for someone you trully love, how far would you go to save them?, I had been in that place, to be know and remembered as the villian, anything to protect the ones close to you heart. Mankind can be so selfish and selfless
That's the cruelest part of this game. Making a choice no one should ever have to. Sacrifice everyone's life or sacrifice the one life that makes yours worth living for.
I can not forgive the Shadowlord for the manipulation he inflicted upon his fellow Gestalts to bring his daughter back. Because of him, many lost their lives. The ones that hurted the most were Kalil, that Shade at the Memory tree and Roc, along with their corresponding companions. It's in this manner the two Niers are different. The Replicant really did learn to care for the world. Popola and Devola should have deployed Louise when they had the chance.
I still feel like the Father version is more compelling to me. I love both the father and brother concepts, but there is something more emotional about a father fighting for his child then a broth fighting for his sister. It feels more gut retching to think of a father failing to protect his child. This story is dark either way.
People who have only have played automata, I feel sorry for them lol this is way better, automata was good most of the stories are touching and all but replicant,.. lol hands down (automata didn’t have the same impact replicant did )
Maybe you are right, I played nier automata and I was very shocked by the thought of existentialism but nier replicant makes me think that if you want to protect what you love, even if it means sending the world to the trash, I would do it, which makes me think about: make a decision and accept the consequences whether they are good or bad. nier replicant maybe it will impact me more, maybe after all I have not played it but I plan to do it.
I found NieR replicant to be really shallow compared to automata. and not just storywise. replicant has width, but lacks depth. automata has deeper ideas and themes that give the game more to present to the player. this also gives the player more to reflect on and contemplate in return. NieR replicant was just sad. but NieR:Automata was sad AND depressing. replicant lacks entirely in the existential horror and existential 3-way mirror aspect that automata Excells at. on top of that, 2B and 9S have a significantly better fleshed out relationship than the characters relationships of replicant, especially in the romance aspect of 2B and 9S vs NieR and kaine. the relationship is the entire character focus of 2B and 9S, but for Nier and kaine, it's a minor, very minor detail that suddenly gets brought to the forefront without much being expanded upon prior to its sudden importance. replicant is a much smaller scale, down to earth game in its portrayal and experience. there's no grander message to read into, no out-of-game mental jump ropes and hurdles. it's just about the characters. automata is about the characters too, but it uses those characters to also nail into the players heart "bigger" questions and pains. you not only have to deal with the characters suffering and sadness, but you also have your own dreadful existential crisis boiling under your skin, and you can relate it to the characters struggle to justify their existence too. I called automata a 3-way mirror before. what I meant by that is that, the player, the main characters/androids, and the machines can all look into each other. the machines and androids obsess relentlessly with humanity, and are constantly fighting each other and realizing how similar each other are. humanity (the player) is constantly observing the state of world that these beings that obsess over us live in, and how they perceive us and each other. all 3 individual groups are observing all 3 groups at once existentially, and each group reflects on their own existence and the other 2 groups existence as a result. replicant doesn't have that. replicant just has the player observing the written story. and like I said, while replicant inflicts sadness, so does automata, but automata also has depression stacked on top of it.
@@MonsteRNieR oh well. Both are objectively phenomenal. Automata is what resonated with me the most. It's good that both games see appreciation from people.
Sucks how the Shadowlord was actually trying to save humanity and the death of the Shadowlord actually caused the Human Race to go extinct and that's why Nier Automata happened, our character is an idiot but it's not like they knew the whole story anyways. But it honestly makes the main character seem like a psychopathic killer since everyone you have been killing is the orginial humans lol.
I think Shadowlord's goal was to save his sister, not exactly humanity. And I don't think replicant Nier wan an idiot. He is similar to Joel from TLOU.
@@TheAlin1213 his goal was both his sister and humanity it was already explained what his goals were and more of it was explained in Nier Automata that Nier knew and volunteered for the project that's why he was so protected. All the Shades were connected to him and thats why with his death caused the death of humanity. I forgot what the project was called. It's been a while.
I don't know how you can call MC an idiot or psychopath since he didn't know shit about the whole thing about Replicants and Shadows. Devola and Popola explained him this very vague But it's not important. The main thing is that replicants have gained self-awareness. So why the hell they supposed to sucrifice themselfs for humans? I am not even talking that before this whole reveal about Replicants and Geshtalts, for Nier they were just Shadows - an enemy basically. I am not sure you can call him a psychopath. Yeah, this is sad that humans extinct because of chain of unlucky events, but it's not Replicants mistake for sure
It's like they left it in there intentionally, which i find it a nice touch and brings back nostalgia how slow, chunky and thrashy everytime Nier fights.
Me gusta mucho como NieR adaptó parte de la personalidad de Weiss al crecer, y Weiss de la de NieR, esto podemos verlo con la frase "I'm nothing like you" que ambos sueltan en sus correspondientes batallas contra Noire y las gemelas
I honestly am not a fan of Kaine helping in the first phase. To me, this is easily the most personal fight in the game, making it a 2 v 1 isnt fair. I mean, the Shadowlord is literally fighting himself here. Its a heart wrenching fight of two who are also one with a specific goal, yet it conflicts so greatly with the other.
@@kraosdadafusfus8034 Yonah has the same VA as she did before (Heather Hogan). Nier is the only one with new VA's, by virtue of this being the first time that Brother Nier has been in anything outside of Japan.
It was an architect of a mastermind who created this boss battle an obsolete and If it was it Nier It should have been me to feel the urge of my power underneath him than before, There’s something different about the final boss that It must be concluded back in 2010 over the year 2021.
I feel like what's tragic about brother nier and sister yonah is both of them being thrown into a world of cruelty, when they're both only children. You see Nier having to grow up faster and take all that responsibility, when he himself is lost in all of that, and that includes both the replicant and gestalt Niers. One of the side stories that precedes the game depicts how he struggled to find money for an effective medicine to help Yonah, and he had to sell his body to an older man who was also violent...and that's just one example. He became completely devoted to his sister, but had to pay heavy prices. I recommand the drama Cds as well, they depict a part of gestalt Nier/Shadowlord''s past, and the life in general of humans after ending E of Drakengard, but before project gestalt was fully initiated. It wasn't pretty.
@@johnhogan8327 As an older sibling, I never thought siblings owed each other nothing, so it's an interesting point of view. Always thought that if something happened to our family (or even in general), I'd take care of my brother, but I guess it's far from universal.
Yeah. They are gestalts, the embodiment of extracted human soul outside of their body to save their life from incurable epidemic that'll erase humanity. They are the real human, they waited for the epidemic to vanish. The replicants are just body that lost it's host, but somehow, after so much time passed, they became sentient
Will you show all the endings? So much death at the end. Lol So as I understand, Shades are kind of spirits that can possess people to become "whole" but there seems to ve a clash of consciousness so even if theyre possessed two souls exist?
No. Shades are the souls of true humans split from their bodies during Project Gestalt. The Project aimed to allow humanity to survive the White Chlorination Syndrome by splitting the souls (the Gestalts, or Shades) from the body and crafting a new body for it that is resistant to the disease, called a Replicant, which is what you play as. However, as the Gestalt and its Replicant body are linked, and the people behind Project Gestalt didn't expect Replicants to gain souls of their own, whenever a Replicant develops its own soul, its Gestalt-turned-Shade goes berserk, and the Replicant will eventually contract the Black Scrawl. When the Shadowlord put Gestalt Yonah into Replicant Yonah's body, the soul of Replicant Yonah was stuck inside and begging to get out and see her brother.
@@gabrielb.2695 Nier's Gestalt (the Shadowlord) was also the Original Gestalt, the guy who kept the few stable remaining Gestalts from relapsing. Without him, all the Gestalts eventually relapsed, and humanity died to the black scrawl.
Devola/Popola mentioned wanting to wait for another round of bodies, but Shadowlord got impatient and wanted Yonah back right away. So it was possible to get them the body they wanted. Unfortunately, this replicant Nier got too strong for his own good. Doesn't help that Weiss is technically evil and had no problems ending humanity despite regaining his memories and knowing the truth. Wouldn't be surprised if he got hacked by the aliens at this point.
Cause there are 2 different versions of the game in Japan the playstation got brother nier and the xbox got dad nier while every other part of the world got just dad nier
When Weiss says that he doesn’t mind being called “Weiss”, after the entire game of correcting people for not using his full name. Nier says “I knew you’d come around” (to being called Weiss).
@@bytheninedivinesassaultass7316 Could you please tell me the specific name of the track it's from? I clicked on a bunch different versions and couldn't find it.
@@bigmiki2620 the track is called ashes of dreams. Theres multiple versions with lyrics in different languages, but the song is the same. I'm not sure if there is one available without the vocals if that's what you mean.
Wait, wha? In original game the final "Aaaaaargh" was said by original Nier (Shadowlord) , not by Weiss. So this moment was even more heartbreaking. Why they remade this context for book? Fuck this!
Not sure about the new voice acting. The OG hit hard and was very satisfying. The new stuff feels too, "smoothed over." Too clean. Y'know what I mean? "Dyown't speak in sucha mannah FOOL... Ai am NATHING like yew..." becomes "Don't speak in such a manner fool. I am nothing like you." It's not bad, just less amusing than the OG. 5:00 "Y'know?" really weakens this moment. Take out the "y'know" and have her speak firmly as she did before. This is a big moment for her... y'know...? lol. 7:56 This is good though, I like how Weiss's weakening voice sounds like static... Almost like he's a sort of machine, an engineered tool. Fits nicely with the lore~. 8:35 Man... I don't like being a nag but, does anyone see what I mean? The acting is a lot flatter and monotone than the original's. All said at mostly similar volume, pitch, and inflection. Sorry, it's good to see this game again. But, some of the changes for the acting I'm not hot on. 10:45 Wait... Y'hear that? I think that's the OG Shadowlord yell~. Glad they left that in right at the end~.
@@Lonewulf321 Little things make up a whole experience. When lots of little things get changed, people notice. The game's not bad, I still like it, but some of the changes are not so hot.
You do realize this was the first NieR right? It wasn’t perfect gameplay-wise, but the story and characters were great. Plus, without Replicant, Automata would have never existed. Now, this is an upgraded version, not a full remake, so, if you just played Automata for the gameplay, maybe Taro’s games aren’t for you after all.
@@wallacesousuke1433 look. The point is, this is a predecessor. Sure it seems a lot less than its successor, but thats because its an older game. You cant compare an old man to his son. XD So saying this is worse than Automata is kind insensitive. Many people still like it despite its oldness which proves it was and is a good game. You couldve easily just said, "I like Nier Automata more. This isnt really my thing."