Nightline Frank Zappa September 13, 1985 Part 1 with Ted Koppel 

Just after Ted himself said “not yet” after Candi said “we’re not trying to take away 1st Amendment rights”.

Sven Jansen Yea, Europe. Rape gangs and no go zones. How's cologne Germany and Sweden doing? Ariana grande concert, eagles of death metal, Charlie hebfie. London bridge standings. Germany at xmas had bus plowing down people. Have fun in Europe land of flaccid whiskey dick wankers. Our military saved Europes butt but whatever. Keep hating if that's what gets u through the night.

The US has better free speech than any place in Europe

Rap got more popular after they put explicit warning labels on albums.

Everything according to these censorship types.

Headed by Tipper Gore, not part of the religious right. Interesting note that Donny Osmond who is religious, is anti-censorship. The authoritarian left still thrives today with demands of censorship. The Right was certainly not blameless and has advocated for censorship. Nowadays they are mostly pro free speech.

@@EverSinceMyExorcism Donny Osmond was a very young musician, so I can understand his feelings for anti censorship. The pendulum has long shifted since this 80’s interview took place. The far left is damaging the patriotic values of America. There was a time when the right wing where anti Rock n Roll. We are at least two - three generations past that. Everybody I know who is right wing loves Rock n Roll, from Elvis up to the 80’s Hair Metal and Metallica. The left wing used to create culture. The Hippies of the 60’s were largely left wing who created and made their own music. Today the left wing are composed of authoritarians who are anti culture. Counter culture is looked down upon and silenced. The right wing back in this interview were older people with Reagan esque values. The Millennials who are right wing today want culture to thrive, while the leftists do everything to censor and ban things they don’t like. Times are different in contrast to this 80’s interview.

His appearance on Ed Sullivan offended the parents, so his second appearance only revealed his upper body. The Ed Sullivan RU-vid channel uploaded the initial Elvis appearance from 1956, which has gained millions of views. Tipper Gore herself was very young back then. Then she turned around and proposed for censorship in the 80’s like her parents generation did decades earlier.

Axeman89 He explains his idea of conservatism in his book. I highly recommend that you read it. It has nothing to do with what we know today as conservatism. Obviously…

@@Tyrell_Corp2019 That’s because back when this old 1980’s interview was made, conservatism had a different meaning. Now we have right wing radicals and far left authoritarians who are just as insufferable. There’s no proper ground anymore.

@@KratostheThird Yeah. I'm a moderate myself. I believe both sides have valid points from traditional definitions. For example: Too much government? Yeah it can happen. Too little? Yeah it can happen. Taxes? Same. There's a balance that needs to be struck. But now, it's no longer policy. It's mainly a hollow and stupid cultural battle. Seems like we are waiting for the adults to arrive. For now, I'll take the democrats. I don't see how "conservatives" are going to stop drinking the Rump Kool-Aid. To be continued...

@@Tyrell_Corp2019 The moderates don’t have a party of their own. Libertarians, by their own merit, really aren’t any better than the Left or Right. Today however, Frank Zappa would likely be called a right wing conspiracy theorist. That’s how much the culture has shifted. And it’s all a smear campaign. Rational conversation is no longer encouraged.

@@KratostheThird As far as I'm concerned "Libertarians" are very confused. A long conversation I'll avoid. Zappa considered himself a 'practical conservative'. He didn't care the musician's union but at the same time he wasn't against the social policies of the left. Over all I'd put him slightly left of center with some conservative ideas. I don't think for a second he'd go along with the teenagers who started QAnon. Or any of the nonsense we are seeing from that side today. I'd put in the same camp as Bill Maher today. I call him an "Age Of Enlightenment" liberal. Meaning... rational thought and the true meaning of freedom should always be in our sights. (Which is why Maher will go against the 'pronoun police' just as much as Rump)

The PMRC, headed by Tipper Gore, not a conservative. Interesting to note that Donny Osmond, who is religious, is anti-censorship. The authoritarian left still thrives today with demands of censorship and policing speech.