Nike Air Zoom Pegasus 39 Shield - as good as GORE-TEX ? 

Ha ha thanks. It is what I call trail running :) Mind you must be in need of some “protection” on the Surrey Hills now after all this rain ?

@@TimGrose it's not actually been too bad after these last few days of dry weather. I am sure that will all change on Tuesday 🤣

Thanks and yea if you are primarily using it on the road then the Shield is the more obvious one.

Thanks. Yeah short of total immersion over the sides they are pretty good.

Got to be done :)

Is the Winflo 8 Shield the one that looks almost identical to the Peg 39 Shield but maybe has Cushlon not React ?

@@TimGrose not so sure it felt super simular and the person was on a budget and the winflo was a lot cheaper I held them next to eachother the foam felt the same to me

Odd about the Air Pod popping just walking about. Hope you can get those replaced ? I did get the 38 Shield at a good discount last year but still managed to get my feet soaked on a very wet run in them although could be the usual story of the top of my socks getting soaked then water inevitably seeps down. I also have the Endorphin Speed 2 RUNSHIELD and last winter ended up doing far more miles in them even if there were more just splash proof. Know what you mean about the "noisy" feel of the 39 but it feels a bit more like true GORE-TEX in that regard and seemed from the tests I did standing in the water below the level of the laces that are more waterproof than I thought Shield shoes are designed to be. I haven't done much more than an hour at at a time in the Shield 39 so far and were fine for that but I don't have much issue with sweaty feet in any shoe.

Must have had half a dozen pairs of shoes with air pods in them and this was the first time I’ve had one pop, so hopefully just unlucky!

@@Trwoodward did nike replace them?

Yeah when a shoe gets wet you certainly lug round a lot more ! Perhaps I should also have tested how quickly it dissipates especially if my feet keep dry. Not sure about soft midsoles. The most effective way through mud is probably XC spikes which certainly aren’t soft. Rugged outsoles usually seen in trail shoes will render most shoes stiff won’t they?

@@TimGrose Yes but they have a design that release the mud quickly.. I have a few runs in road shoes like Clifton 7 and Topo Ultrafly 3 and just looking at mud makes each one hundreds of grams heavier.. With sticky mud you notice that you run on clunky shoes.. What I often don't realised was that as it rains or I accidentally hit a puddle I don't really feel wet but I get very tired legs and my run gets slow.. Then I take the shoes and socks off and boy are they soaker and heavy..

@@i.p2088 yeah soggy feet isn’t great which is largely why I like these sort of shoes. Obviously on “normal” runs I don’t plough through fairly deep fords out of choice :) I remember I did have to on this very one once when the water level was higher and the bridge was submerged ! It was in RC Elite v1 so they must have been less “super” for the next mile but fortunately I only had to go.

Good to hear - well apart from the temperature. It wasn't far off 20 deg C in the UK this weekend. Definitely shorts and T shirt weather on my run today and no need for weatherised shoes as did a totally dry road run. Yeah getting the exposed part of your socks wet is always the "problem" I find with weatherised shoes. The "best" ones in that regard I have had were probably the weatherised version of the Peg Turbos as they had a neoprene bootie to cover your ankles. Just felt a bit odd to run in especially as they had no laces and just a Velcro band to lock you in as it were.

Tricky one but I would probably say the GORE-TEX one as just gives a few more options. That would be the one I would wear if the conditions were really wet. I also got that one when it was really hot here in the UK and didn’t have any overheating issues. Think the Shield one would be OK too and I even used them for good one time when forgot my golf shoes and worked well and kept my feet dry. Might just depend which one you like best and which colour as other options than black are available.

Which race is it? I can see a few on 5th Nov that we are still marking as provisional although you would hope they have finalised things by now. Good idea for a video.

@@TimGrose Thanks Tim, it was the Glos XC that the FOD took part in. The results have been final on their site for a week or so, but maybe they haven’t notified you.

If pushed for one weatherised shoe, I would go for the Peg Trail 4 GORE-TEX. I have a separate video on that. That one is a good road/trail hybrid plus of course has the GORE-TEX for the best waterproofness. If you were only going to use it on the road then this Pegasus Shield but sounds like you are not. BTW I think the one they are selling now is this same shoe I tested for this video this time last year but they seemed to have dropped the "39" to avoid confusion given the regular Pegasus is now at version 40.

@@TimGrose Thanks for the reply. I don’t tend to go on trails or in the rain (where possible). Was mainly gonna wear them for Parkruns (in winter) as they tend to be a mixture of terrain. I bought all 3 in the sales to try on! What do you think? Shield 39 - £65 (black and white) Trail 39 GTX - £80 (all black) Trail 39 - £81 (yellow)

@@elninochin0 ah if you actually have all 3 in hand you can of course see which feels the best. I think the Shield/GTX shoes are possibly even better when it is not actually raining as this time of year the ground will be wet but you shouldn't get your feet sodden at the first puddle like you would in a non weatherised shoe. Still think my favourite would be the Peg Trail GTX.

Yeah perhaps the cold water plunge was a bit extreme here but otherwise doing the job here. I never got too with the regular Peg 37 as felt it had too shallow a toebox for me. Maybe the Shield one was better ?

@@TimGrose The Shild 37 is a lot wider than the regular 37 and these look cool with the pink swoosh...

@@Guru-jp3zi Ah probably as well I did not have those then as wide shoes are the last thing I need. I used to get the narrow regular Pegs off Nike by You but they seem to have stopped doing that with the 39. Fortunately neither the regular or Shield 39 are too wide for me albeit I would ideally want them narrower.

Ah well I did these get ones for £90 which is pretty much the cheapest shoe have bought this year and it feels very similar to the standard one. It was the same with the Speed 2 Runshield for me albeit they were more expensive. Not heard of such a spray - might have to give that a test!

Forget water repellant spray, a candle and hairdryer is much cheaper

@@macewindex564 ha ha. Maybe the answer is really to go round the side of these fords and stay dry anyway.

They have gtx trail if you just want gore tex but i got the shield because i like the bouncier feel of the pegs

@@johndoe9575 I have the Peg Trail 4 GTX as well and been using both of late. The trail one is actually more of a road/trail shoe and if anything I feel it is ever so slightly softer than the Shield - perhaps due to the storm tread outsole on the Shield making it firmer to me than the standard Peg 39s. If I was doing an all road run I might opt for the Shield but if doing bit of both and/or wanted maximum water protection would go for the trail one as I did today.

Yeah it seems a lot more waterproof than Shield shoes seem to have been before. It is obviously a stiffer material so is a little more noisy. For me the upper is a bit wide so feel there is room above my toes as it were especially as the material has to fold a bit when I pulled in the laces. I never really have problems about shoes being too hot or cold but I always wear thin socks so chances of getting “hot” aren’t too high.

Yeah think would be good for that. I have worn these walking round a damp golf course and kept my feet dry.

I doubt you will find them much different in that regard. That said I don’t feel they are too hot or cold for running in myself.

@@TimGrose so in the end they are the same as the Pegasus 36 GTX in terms of warmth during the winter for casual walking :/

@@ivankardum87 similar I would say yes. Of course they are intended for running in the main and TBH I don’t think I have ever felt I had cold feet in a running shoe actually running.

Yeah I have done that with some shoes but it does sometimes change the feel across the midfoot and with them already quite tight for my narrow feet danger of almost cutting off the circulation as it were. Plus I find it feels a lot slicker with "just enough" lace lengths.

I thought I showed in the video that the Peg 39 Shield here resists water very well. They are designed for road running in the main and to give a similar feel to the normal version. As such very good winter option when conditions far more likely to be wet. GORE-TEX is probably a little more water resistant but the Pegasus that has it - Peg Trail 4 GORE-TEX is more of a road/trail hybrid that has better grip off road. So kind of depends what you want to use it for but it might just come down to which can find cheaper and which prefer the look of. I use both.

@@TimGrose Thanks for your response. Is Nike Pegasus 39 Shield waterproof or water repellent?? Water resistant??Because you have had this shoes. I don't know what the difference is among waterproof, water repellent or water resistant??

They are more designed for wet roads. I have done some short bits of slightly muddy trails in them and was fine but if was doing a route with lots of mud would opt for the Pegasus Trail 4 GORE-TEX that I mentioned in this. "Slippery" rocks is a terrain I don't normally do but, if I did then whatever was wearing would just take those sections more carefully. I think I would also look for out and out dedicated trail shoe for that environment if wanted to do it regularly.

I think you have only lost once :)

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You mean for a 1600m (or mile) race or just to go for a training run? I don't have the Rival 3 but I think it is meant to be a fairly low cost shoe you could race in but could also use for some daily training. The Pegasus is a bit more expensive and feel is designed principally as a daily trainer although you could race it just as you could in anything really. Probably largely depends on how much you value the Shield protection.

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Do you like them?

It is a little heavier but not really noticeable.

@@TimGrose tks Tim. I just gotten the Shield version today but after learning about the noise from the material I'm thinking twice about whether to sell it or exchange. I didn't know the difference between shield and regular when I bought it.

@@Gurugurustan doesn’t really bother me maybe as am used to some carbon fibre plated shoes that aren’t quiet either.

It is advertised as a road shoe but IMHO will be fine in most off road situations.

It is advertised as a road shoe but IMHO will be fine in most off road situations.

@@TimGrose and same for Pegasus 39 also right, as I am not going to run in much loose soil or very soggy surface, it is bit hard mud track where I do my daily training and go for road runs weekly once.

@@RakeshKumar-ve9je yeah the standard Peg 39 is decent off road. Obviously if if it is wet, you are going to get your feet wet very quickly which is when these Shield type shoes make for a better option.

@@TimGrose Ya thanks for the info, but I can't opt for Shield as the climate in my city in India is almost hot and humid for most of the year except in rainy season, so I can't use them for longer time as it doesn't have breathable mesh, so I've bought standard Peg 39 based on your suggestion.

Ah interesting. What's the problem with the GTX for you? I always though GORE-TEX shoes work well through snowbound courses.

@@TimGrose the gtx shoe is too cold, the shield is much warmer - so having both shoes is perfect for the entire year

@@mattiaslindstrom8798 ah I see. Good to have both as you say.

Grip is fine for me in either the regular or Shield Pegasus 39 on the road. In fact I felt the regular one did the best of the 4 road shoes I tested for my video last week. What sort of trail surface are you talking about?

@@TimGrose On pavement, gravel, dirt they are fine. Technical trails with rocks, roots, up and down mountains I haven't had much luck with Nike.

Ah I see. That is just terrain I don’t really ever run on. “Trail” for me is more wet and muddy at least in the winter. In summer can often wear anything “off road” in same locations.