I think that the F mount is much brighter (half a stop for sure) than the Z mount not because of the coating but because of the number of elements. If you want to shoot in the dark I think you should defiantly stay with the F mount. All the exposure that I see were correct to the Z mount and over exposure for the F mount
Thanks for doing the homework I can't do on my own before making a new lens purchase. You also helped me to understand some of the inconsistencies I find with my f-mount lenses on my Z50.
Not a problem! I am in that transition in fully switching to Z mount. I just want to see the overall benefits in doing so. This is a journey I want to show folks and Im glad it helped! cheers mate!
Great video. Made me realize, I wasn't watching DRTV, if you have time make a video NIKKOR Z DX 16-50mm f/3.5-6.3 VR VS Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED Thanks
Definitely makes me want to go for the Z-mount lenses where possible. I wonder if the issues are as pronounced with the higher grade F-mount lenses or it's mostly seen with the cheaper F-mount lenses.
@@theCameraVille I'm definitely going to get the 24-70mm f4 (don't really need the f2.8, and the price difference is just too big to get it just because I want it), and will also save for the 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Not sure about the wide angle lenses. Heard a lot of good things about Laowa's 15mm f2, so thinking about going that way. Telephoto lenses are just too expensive when it comes to the Z lenses. When I break through as a top professional photographer, who everyone wants to hire, I'll get all the Z lenses 😄 but it seems that the prices are justified for the most part. Insane thing is that just getting the Nikon Z5 improved the image quality insanely for me. Had the Fujifilm X-T3, and when I compare the images I shot with my Voigtlander lenses in the X-T3 to the Nikon Z5 there's a huge difference. Not just in the obvious APS-C to FF, but also in sharpness, detail, and so on. The Z-system really seems to have a lot going for it.
@@theCameraVille Fun story, I was actually planning to buy into Olympus and/or Panasonic, mostly for the built and IBIS, allowing me more versatility (for what I'm doing image quality is less important), and I only had the Z-system as a possible option to consider instead. But to my luck (?) where I live it's literally impossible to get any of the newer MFT cameras, and even used I had a hard time to find anything of interest. So I ended trying out the Z5, and I was blown away! The really annoying part of this is how "influencers" actually do manage to influence you. For some reason I've got this idea that the Z5 was a "cheaper" built compared to the Z6. And while that might be the case, comparing the feel of the Z5 to the X-T3 is like night and day. It just feels more substantial. I'm less concerned using it in more demanding situations now, than my biased ideas would allow me to think it would be. It annoys me that though I'm aware of bias and the negative perceptions you can get from reviewers on RU-vid (no offense, in the general sense), it still got to me. People have been trashing Nikon for the Z5, but truth to be told, for a lot of people it is the perfect full frame mirrorless camera. When you don't need a high number of frames per seconds, and you're not doing any serious video stuff, and the top LCD screen is not something you absolutely must have, and so on, then the Z5 is really an amazing camera for a very affordable price. Compared to the Canon RP it offers so much more for an entry level camera. Nikon has been smart about the Z-system, very smart. For people who can't see beyond their own subjective needs and requests, then obviously it might seem differently, but why in the world are they reviewers on RU-vid then? Sorry for the rant, I'm just so fucking happy about finally getting here, and finally finding what seems to be the perfect camera for me. With the compact 28mm and 40mm lenses they're supposed to release, I'm just in heaven.
I could agree to most of your analysis but not to the severity. Mostly the G-Lens was slightly inferior to the one for mirrorless. However, looking at the price tag it is nearly 4x as expensive. And that price difference is extreme given the gain in quality. Or in other words. I would never buy a nifty fifty for 800 bucks. From my point of view it is just crazy.
This 50mm S is probably better than any other lens available on F mount. If You will find some better glasses performance of F, propobly will be not many, and cost a lot. Any S line is just another class from the best. Standard Zoom 24-70/f4; is better than prime on F mount from G line.
Nice comparison...z primes are better than f mount lens. The f mount primes are a cheaper option but with ftz adapter they are close to same size and weight.
Yup exactly. The Z mount is slightly bigger in size and of course weight. But crazy, this compact system is very promising so far. I enjoyed the AF and also the other features with the z50. Also I want to mentioned, that is my 50mm 1.8 G. That has been my nifty fifty for years. I think if I do more portraits, I will 100% consider in just picking up the 50mm 1.8 s. That was amazing. Nailing focus so nice. The only test I had to repeat was with my FTZ and F mount. Z mount was always right on target for my simple testing.
It would be nice to see same test with Nikon DSLR like D750 and 50mm 1.8g vs 50 1.8s on Z5 or Z6 to see the whole truth. After AF fine tuned on D750 1.8g it's actually very nice lens, small and light as feather which is big pro and pretty sharp also from 2.2 and above
When you put them next to each other and look at their sizes, it's easy to assume they just stuck the old 50mm to an FTZ adapter, all in one new plastic body, which is why the price is increased. Why would the new 50mm 1.8 S be so much longer than the old one? Compensating for a thinner body and a raised sensor?
BAHAHAHA yes!! lol!!.. Actually I was doing that and it worked lol!! but yea, the af is a mm off but its fine. I think sooner or later this will force user to adapt to the issue, adjust the af tuning or just buy Z mount lenses haha
I don't see much difference sometimes I think f mount is better. There is a huge difference in price. Other tests I've seen show the z lens as significantly better. I use the f mount on both f and z mount cameras I find the vibration reduction improves f 50mm lens.
Just sharpness is mainly it. Also another huge one is the adapter. Adapter can malfunction while native mount on any body wouldnt. The adapter adds more power usage from your camera. Also you cant use 3rd party battery on NikonZ, so you end up paying more for power for the adapter. Also in video focusing rattle is bad. In the near future when the Z 50 drops in price, people will end up buying it. Currently folks who dont want to pay the extra, the 50mm 1.8g is fine.
"A lot sharper", "way sharper", "sky a lot better" is much exaggerated if I look at the video. Maybe it's the compression. The focus problem needs fixing, however. The CA need to be removed if possible.
i heard the killer lens for this category is sigma art 1.4 , but it's also need adapter true? maybe good idea to you for review in the future (it's heavier lens do and add the adapter it's make it worst)
Thanks Ian! I was strangely amaze how good the results ended up to be. I will have to say the Z mount lenses are very excellent. The CA control I amazing.
@@theCameraVille it must be the nano or whatever new coating which keeps the chromatic aberration & infringing to a minimum which in turn possibly also protects it from ghosting/veiling and thus providing better sharpness.
@@iancxxx Yup, it is amazing. I was surprise. I was hoping that it will be a hair better and I would say don't waste your money, buy the f mount but wow. That wasn't the case. I will review more down the road. Cheers!
Need updating firmware FTZ ii for 1.8G before use it? Because my z50 said "cannot shoot because an unsupported lens is attached" What the solution for my problems here Sir?
That is very odd since you have the new one. It should work. Make sure the contacts are cleaned and you have all the firmware update. Make sure your lens isn't set on "Manual" on the lens. Let me see. That should be it. I still own the first version and I remember they didn't roll out the firmware to fix the AF issue till a year after this video.
I recently got a barely used (NIB return) 50 1.8 S at B&H. Works great but the AF motor is audibly louder than that of my 20-70 f4 S and my 35mm 1.8 s. While the AF motor definitely has an audible wine to it, as I was trying to figure it out I noticed that the aperture "flutters" as focus changes contributing to the noise. It's most obvious if you manual focus the lens slowly. It flutters every so often. If you focus a tad bit faster it flutters even more. It's as if there some sort of crosstalk between the AF motor and the aperture motor. I don't think this is normal, but have you seen this in your copy? I'd hate to RMA a perfectly good lens if this is some sort of quirk that the lens exhibits (though my gut tells me it's a defect of this specific lens and may even be why it was originally returned). Thanks in advance.
The barely used part was a warning sign. I got the same deal with my 35 used at BH. Same story. I believe the previous owner may had dropped it and bang up the motor. I returned my 35 even thought it was a good price but I realize why it was later on.
@@theCameraVille thanks. The lens looks flawless on the outside so I suspect this was a manufacturing issue and that the original owner found this and either didn't report it to B&H or B&H missed it. But I agree this didn't look good. I just saved 150 off the retail and now without the rebates it's more like 250.
@@ElGrecoDaGeek yup, same with my 35. Looked new but it had issue sadly. I had to ask myself about long term, so I decided to quickly return it before my window of return expired.
Are you kidding, 3x the price difference....he nikon 50mm G is budget lens for $225. Unfortunately nikons 50mm f1.4 is vey expensive and not as sharp as their budget version......so try that against a Zeiss Milvus 50mm f1.4.....or a Sigma 50mm f1.4 art (same price range and auto focus).
Taipei Geek Yup there is a fine tune. I believe when I updated the camera, everything was remove. So at default for this lens, it will need to be fine tune.
new firmware update just now : “Fixed an issue in which fine-tuning values selected for AF fine-tune > Saved value were not correctly applied when pictures were taken.”
I guess it is a case of you get what you pay for. Z mount 50mm is a new design with better coatings, compared to an older simpler f mount design. So if you shoot wide open or crop more often the Z is the right choice. The z mount f1.8 lenses are really good!
My option is.. If u have more money.. Just go to z lens..my friend when shoot wedding.. Their ftz adapter got jammed.. So cant use g lens.. Its better to go to z lens..
Depends on the end user. The video AF might be a concern. In the end, I still use my 50mm G. If anyone want a level higher, the Z 50mm 1.8s is excellent. Exceeded my expectations.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1431716-REG/nikon_4185_ftz_mount_adapter.html Really depends on the situation. Also there is a version II coming out of the FTZ adapter which makes Z mount more tempting because now you are buying another adapter and maybe another later.
@@theCameraVille so interesting to hear ! i need it for product photography so usability wise i may need the 50 mm s ... or kit such as 24-70 mm they sale it like that in hong kong
Prices on Z lenses are insane.. Ok , they are better. But are they so much better? I mean, in some cases the price is 3x ,even 4x. No thanks, I don't think I'll fall for the G.A.S. this time. My f-mounts serve me well.
I own both at the moment. I can see why people would go with $100 G lens but the S series offers a lot of bang for your buck . The S series offers sharp and clear images during harsh lighting condition.
I have a crazy question just got the 50mm 1.8 the one at 200 and i put it on the F mount adapter anddddd why can’t i zoom in i move the F and it makes it sharper brighter i can’t zoom in or out is that the life of 50mm lens??? Someone help kindly lol
Thank you guys did a shoot with it yesterday and took my 24 also it’s worked out but man those 50 shots are so sharp and beautiful just had to adjust myself thank you again
@@michellesainz3468 there are actually two different models of the Nikon 50mm 1.8 lense. One is the Nikon 50mm 1.8D (the newer model) The other is the Nikon 50mm 1.8G lens (older model) Only the Nikon 50mm 1.8 lense G lense allows you to auto focus while using the FTZ adapter. I purchased the D/newer version and wondered why I couldn't autfocus.
I have feeling than Nikon intentionally broke the adapted lenses sharpness so that the users will slowly be forced to switch. There is no any explanation why with every firmware update the sharpness of F lenses became worse. I have noticed this with a landscape lens 18-35 3.5-4.5g and z6ii, shooting mostly at f8, and images suddenly became softer with new firmware.
