Nikon Z 85mm 1.8 Vs F 85mm 1.4 | What Could Go Wrong ....? | Matt Irwin 

I ran into the same problem with my FTZ adapter and my tripod. I got myself a Smallrig L-bracket. When you use that to mount you camera you can easily switch between Z-lenses and the FTZ

I did see the lesson and the conclusive evidence between the two lenses but as you no doubt know I also learned more about your persona and you pass my high standards for a swell and patient artist. Stay healthy. We need people like you. I mean this.

including the bloopers was awesome!!!!

Always enjoy your videos. Great that you tell it as it is without all that over enthusiastic preamble some RU-vidrs seem to find essential!! I have both a D850 and a Z6. I would really like to see you do some of your lens comparisons showing how they each perform in their "native" environment - i.e. in this case - your F mount 85mm on a DSLR, such as a D850, and the Z-mount version on a Z6/7 and see if they effect you highlighted is still prevalent. Keep up the great work.

Fun video. As an ex-Melbournian now living in Brisbane your videos make me realise how much I miss the Melbourne landscapes. Just to add my voice, yes, I would also love to see a video of how you removed the background in that last shot please.

Really enjoyed this video. So impressed by your willingness to show how things really go. We all get bombarded with perfectly shot videos where everything goes flawlessly. Always enjoy your videos.

Matt, again, another video that makes me extremely happy I went with the Z6 & Z7 Cameras. rumors has some more lens releases with the z5. it is said to have the 50 mm 1.2 being released but by time the 70 - 200 mm 2.8 is released i will be paying off that lens making me wait for the 50. anyways. Keep up the great videos man... be safe. ps. you have some serious patience.

I thought this was a very enjoyable and entertaining video. However, here is my only issue with it. I don't know a single person that uses an 85mm lens for landscapes. Whenever I'm doing portrait work, I have my 85mm F1.4G lens on about 98% of the time (and I have the older 70-200 F2.8 but I much prefer the look of the 85mm). I think a more interesting and valid comparison would be actually shooting with the lenses in a scenario in which you would probably be using them. Not to mention, no one gives a rat's azz about corner to corner sharpness in portrait work. Now...chromatic aberration is sometimes an issue (especially if they are wearing glasses or silver) but easily resolved in Lightroom. Thanks for sharing Matt!

I preordered the Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4-6.3. I so hope it comes before my trip this 20th.

Great vid Matt. Can’t believe you didn’t blame some of the mishaps on Mark :). But thanks for showing us how we all have these days and simply move on with things. The bath house scene at then end was nice and of course we’d be keen to see how you did such a nice job cleaning things up in PS.

Hi Matt, I think you really have to change your ballhead and plates. And I believe you are a very patient Man. I used to use manfrotto head and plates back in 1997 until 2004. Since then I use Arca style plate. Nowadays many copy versions of Arca style plates. To be honest if you had used arca style plates, you would not get that frustation. I do own Z6 and just acquired D850 (Yes, I am very late to the D850 party). I just used my 85mm f1.4 again after years sitting in my dry cabinet, and I love it again, but plan to get either 50mm S or 85mm S. Your video really helps. You confirm that 85mm S is really Rock. Thanks!!

I'll never forget when I dropped my Voigtlander 28 f/2.8 pancake last year. The whole D810 fell down right on the lens, and because it's all metal, it survived the impact, but there's a big scratch on the edge of the filter thread. It bothers me until today... I'm so much more careful with the gear from then on.

Hi Matt, as long as you were in Photoshop you should’ve took out that pole to, that would really make that a great shot but that’s my opinion. Stay safe!

Great video, it’s good to see someone else just ‘having one of those days!’. If you use Arca Swiss plates you can use the small rig L bracket / plate for the Z6/7. This has a deep base which allows you to mount the FTZ adaptor whilst on a tripod, it also provides a deeper grip so you little finger doesn’t slide off the bottom of the body - take a look!

Entertaining, Matt. Good video on the 85s. I had a chuckle at the foibles. We've all been there ;)

Matt do compare with the Samyang Z mount 85 1.4 and the Sigma 1.4 on the ftz if you can. Especially on the sunset CA cause that was a nice revelation. You saved my money on the Nikon F 1.4, I currently have the F 1.8 and wondering if I should upgrade to the z 1.8 or the sigma 1.4 (which I can also use on the D750) Cheers!

Matt , have you tried the smallrig L becket for the Z series ? It works great to allow space for the FTZ adapter for tripod use .

Hello, I need your help. I bought an Atamos for my Nikon Z9. How do you record the evf while shooting pictures. Every time, after I shoot 2 pictures, the Atamos stops recording. How can I make the Atamos continually record the evf even if I shoot 100 pictures ??? Thanks man!😀

That was hilarious! The guy setting up his shot in your shot was perfect!

I recommend 3 Legged Thing L-bracket for Z and Equinox Switch. They are small enough to fit the ftz adapter without removing the camera.

Thanks Matt. The sticky outy bit on the FTZ is a pain in the bum! I do like the 85 f1.8 on my Z6, it’s great for so many applications. Oh, yes, please a lesson on taking out the bin would be great thanks. Manage to get some fog earlier in the week?

Hey Matt! You might want to check out the Sirui TY-C10 (also named AM-10C) Arca-Swiss tripod plate. They are very small, so one can always stay at the FTZ, one always at the camera. They don't interfere, even when changing between Z- and F-lenses!

Since we both have grey in our beards we call it films, that shows our age but in this time of digital can it really even be called video? I am happy with film. Nice to see I’m not the only one that no matter how much planning goes into something it can still go wrong

That was fun to watch regardless of your FTZ frustrations.

Matt, change to the Arca Swiss system and put an L bracket on the camera. The FTZ doesn't need a mount

I can imagine whats in your trash bin at home!......thank you for the reminder of what can go wrong, thank you for your time, have a nice day....

Interesting comparison... I would also like to see how you removed the bin....

Wow Nikon Z lenses do seem a step or 2 ahead of F mount, thanks for sharing Matt. 👍

You can remove that bin in Capture One now too. But. Is it the same as Photoshop? I don't know! Use both and see which one turns your beanie. Nice that you shared your dress rehearsal with us. :^)

I had the same problem with the F2Z mount also. It would have been nice if they made it so the tripod mount could come off of it. I like your style of videos.

Great video Matt, thank you! :)

Thanks for this Matt, i have a question and maybe i could be way off base. What makes you sure that it was fringing going on and not it actually picking up the refraction across the wave tops. IE a rainbowing effect from the mist coming off the water and catching the sunlight. The reason i ask is i wonder if its actually opposite, that the expensive lens is giving a false representation because the coating on the lens actually reduces that like a polarizer. I ask this because normally fringing is uniform in color but since we see yellow to green and then purple that it may not be fringing.

Why would anyone dislike this video?

nice video and nicely imperfect... ;) And yes, I would like to see how you removed the bin... thx!

You should use lens hood instead of a filter, greater bumper, and doesn't get welded to a lens after dropping.

I was looking forward to the piece of you moving down and setting up in front of the guy setting up in front of you 😂 10/10 for perseverence 😜👍

That issue with the FTZ drives me up the wall as well! Also it doesn't help that I have a peak design anchor mount that needs a hex screw... To mount a Z lens I need to remove the tripod mount, remove the FTZ, remove the anchor using the hex screwdriver, add the mount to the z50 and then mount it on the tripod 😑 Also yes, please do show how you removed something of that size!

Time to retire Matt ;-) I think we've all had 'those' days! I think if I do go Nikon Z mirrorless I will stick with their native glass, no messing about with adapters! You were making me nervous with that unstable looking tripod. Also, I find that cameras and sand don't mix too well!

I remember the same exact dilemma I faced switching between z mount and f mount lenses with a tripod base plate attached. After a few days I did get used to it though. But its still an extra step every time. Wish the FTZ was made without that tripod mount.

I think the faster the glass the more compromises you need to make. Often the 1.8 lens is far better optically than the 1.4 or 1.2. I’ve seen several tests of both Nikon and Canon primes and apart from the cost, size and weight, there’s chromatic aberration and softness even stopped down to f1.8. The f mount 85mm f1.8 might have performed better. I have little experience with the expensive lenses but it seems to be a recurring theme in tests 🤷🏻‍♂️

The f version is no slouch but the z version is just on another level. Even the color reproduction from that z lens was just that little bit better. Wow

Hi Matt, I know this was a "FUN" video but if you have of have the battery grip/holder for the Z cameras that will clear the FTZ adaptor solving this opportunity, well so I have heard. sorry I was late with this. Just keep smiling as at least your aloud out. I have another weeks minimum and am just about to give up.

I would like to see the same comparison taking a portrait though?

If you have the battery grip attached the FTZ rotating problem should be overcome. Meike also have a simple grip that allows the FTZ rotating problem to be solved.

All Z lenses are superior to f glass, but I still prefer for portraiture my 85 1.4 F mount lens. I use less the 85 for landscape, having this focal covered by more lenses like 70-200 VR2, 80-400...

I enjoyed this one. I was not surprised by the results. I would like to see the video removing that background.

Peak Design Lens holder mate :) but not yet available for Z mount...... :(

I enjoyed this one,(even as a Sony shooter)if I did videos this is what they would be like.😂😂😂.Nice one Matt 👍👍👍

Matt the small rig L bracket cures that?

Would love to see the photoshop video to this!

Hey Matt, since we know the Z lenses are the best lenses on the planet, wasn't this comparison just a foregone conclusion? 📷😁👌

Matt, Hilarious, thanks for the chuckle!

My Christmas list just got one Z lens longer...

Matt, why don't you get an L-bracket for the Body and a Arca Swiss plate, then you won't have the ridiculous problem we just witnessed!!

Maybe shows up why the nikon ftz adapter may need to be redesigned to allow for ease of use but one would assume that this issue would have been experienced in testing.

I'm alone in liking the ca and flair photos more. I love shooting into the sun just to get it

Nikon's lens designers obviously didn't graduate from Cornell University's Systems Engineering program. Use case scenarios matter. But they got rid of the bizarre color fringing in the Z series, so all (or most) is forgiven.

couldn't the tripod mounting to the camera be rotated 90 degrees for clearance?

The Nikon afs 85mm f1.4 was not as good as for example the sigma Art 85 f1.4 would have loved to see this too.

I feel your pain with the FTZ!

How the HELL did you remove that bin from the photo?? :)

1.8 is clearly a better lens, and cheaper, and lighter

enjoy your isolation !!

*shakes head lots* "I'm very happy with how this is going" lol In all seriousness though, i am hanging out for the Z7s and will buy that on day one with the FtZ adapter and probably the 85mm F1.8 S, then start collecting lenses for it. I love my D850 but the images the Z system can make are just too good to ignore.

Nikon really messed up on the Z bodies by not making them just a bit longer . Let that pinky land on something and have room for that second card and integrate perfectly with the FTZ and and and .

The battery pack solves that mate.

Nikon should release another FTZ adapter that doesn't conflict with tripods ... 2 years on market and they haven't changed anything.

Should've used your battery grip!

Don't blame the FTZ and prepp...:)

Sorry you had such a run in with Mr. Murphy (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy%27s_law). But thanks for persevering. Very informative. Hope all is OK for you, Marc and everyone re the latest covid in Melbourne. Cheers and keep healthy!

Confuscious he say never work with children, animals and FTZ adaptors!

Using lens UV filter 😱😱😱 omg!!!

Get an L bracket amd then you can switch without issues. 😁

Yes, nothing like having everything working the first time round. Real life rears its ugly head...........................

Where is a good pandemic when you need it. Oh well life

Fun video. As an ex-Melbournian now living in Brisbane your videos make me realise how much I miss the Melbourne landscapes. Just to add my voice, yes, I would also love to see a video of how you removed the background in that last shot please.