Nikon Z6 II Auto Focus = AMAZING?! (WAS I WRONG?)

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This is a REVIEW of the Nikon Z6 II and it's subject tracking, eye af and entire auto focus system. How does it do? Does it SUCK or is it actually good? Has it changed much from the original Z6?
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@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

What do you think? Is it good, bad or indifferent? Do you understand what I am talking about when I mention "acquiring" the initial focus?

@tianmoezelaar5689 3 года назад

I understand what you’re saying but I feel like you’re misjudging the market for the z6ii. And you can change the af sensitivity right? To stop it from going onto others. Keep on the good work

@smapguy1987 3 года назад

Why do you need to shift the subject tracking box? Point the camera at the subject you wish to track instead.

@Kintec86 3 года назад

Still for weddings - D850 Nikon is a work horse, maybe Nikon Z7 III ? Was hoping for "faster" initial focus. Good luck getting those candid shots .

@chiragmetha7601 3 года назад

Jared you should do comparison of R6 and Z6 ll for autofocus and RAW Files, ( exposure Recovery and Iso capacity ) No one done this video before. I was wondering for this from nikon z6 ll lounch.

@dominiqueleblanc2193 3 года назад

Fast auto focus aquiring is primordial. In my case I often shot when I think I will get the shot for 3 or 4 frames. If I don't get those and miss, I don't get tbe money shots. My two cents.

@tectorama 3 года назад

Sounds like Jared needs to read the instructions, instead of going off on another "I love Sony" rant.

@championthewonderhorse9733 3 года назад

Sony might be ahead on AF (marginally) but is behind on the key things like IQ and colour. But YT reviewers are obsessed with eye AF as they have nothing to talk about and need the AF controversy to earn their income.

@TerbrugZondolop 3 года назад

Haahaahhhahahahh

@mudpuddlehuddle 3 года назад

Can you expand because the statement you made was an accusation without the ammo.

@khamid1 3 года назад

Sounds like YT didn't justify your bias = FLAME

@VividFizzy 3 года назад

@@mudpuddlehuddle nah there’s plenty of ammo, you can answer your own questions. Someone can make a statement without being obligated to walk you through a thought process and help you arrive to an understanding. Never heard someone call “spoon feeding” as ammo, but whatever you need

@toryharvey8224 3 года назад

When activating subject tracking just point the square at the subject then activate, instead of using the joystick.

@Extile00 3 года назад

Scary that people need instructions for such things these days. Seems obvious.

@tucompaivan 3 года назад

So he doesn't know how to really use the nikon z62?

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

@@tucompaivan So you leave a smart ass lame comment? "so he doesn't". One, I am a human being, speak to me directly as this is my video, my channel, my comment section. Don't speak to me as if I am not a real person. Two, maybe the system is designed poorly and it just didn't click in my mind for whatever reason like when I am using a Sony or a Canon, that's exactly what I do. Also, at my briefing, Nikon demonstrated with the joystick. Shit happens, stop focusing on one minor thing vs the entire review.

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

@@Extile00 Scary people leave stupid comments instead of constructive feedback. You know, it simply didn't click for me like it does with the Sony and the Canon's. With those, there's a box already active and I move the camera to find the subject. And yes, I should try that with the Nikon. But you should also try not leaving a comment like you did.

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

Yup, that's what I do with the Sony's and the Canon's. Jusrt didn't cross my mind in this situation this time.

@DESIGNS-vo1mt 3 года назад

The music had me on the edge of my toilet!

@andrewf.7813 3 года назад

activate subject tracking, put the box over your subject by moving the camera (not moving the box with joy stick) and start shooting. That seems a shorter and quicker way.

@zZola_Photography 3 года назад

That's what I was thinking... unless your working on a tripod I always find this to be easier for wildlife and quick moving subjects on my d500.

@FlyinRyanProductions406 3 года назад

Yessssssssssss!!!!! My thoughts too. Lol

@markshirley01 3 года назад

Yes drives me mad why move the box move the camera its so easy and a lightning fast technique. Ive never used a joystick in my life.

@arunashamal 3 года назад

@@markshirley01 i have an old nikon dslr with the focus point clitoris, out of all the 100s of thousands of photos taken I never changed the focus point with that .. seems very slow..I'd rather recompose and focus!

@tr_murf4399 3 года назад

Yeah, not a feature I've used a lot since it was introduced, but it's only a two-button maneuver when you move the camera to the subject. The joystick I've never loved for moving subjects. Usually set in Dynamic Area-AF on a third and leave it until I change compositions. Fro shoots some fast moving subjects. Sounds like he wants more reassurance from the GUI (which is understandable), because the camera is hitting focus.

@miguellombana9847 3 года назад

You can put subject tracking on the OK button and use the OK button to reset it, the 2 fingers in the front thing are not needed, I have mine setup that way and it's much faster, plus when you're in the white box or get ready mode, you can put it on your subject before you manually press the AF-ON to sync it to where you want to focus and it will track from there. Much faster, much easier and a lot less fumbling around with front F-buttons

@photographerjonathan 3 года назад

This is what I always hear from Nikon shooters. if you do this or you do that the camera will be like this. but no matter what you do its less intuitive than the competition which focuses better, faster and snappier. which enables you to not have to think about your focusing all the time.

@sanekn 3 года назад

I don't know if it's a good technique but I'm in the "white box" mode all the time basically, so i can just hold the shutter button and recompose instantly all of this with subject tracking all the time. Works great for me ! Z6 user here. Besides the times I need to do portraits in which case I use just an eye AF and it works good enough.

@championthewonderhorse9733 3 года назад

@@photographerjonathan Less intuitive if you don't already use Nikon maybe, and anyway, the results are worth it - much better than the competition as even Fro acknowledges.

@danielvilliers612 3 года назад

@@photographerjonathan are you sure, there is a chinese review where the z62 is as fast as the R6 without mask and faster with mask. There is also this one in french does win but the z6ii is a fraction behind and much better that the Sony and Xt4 last. He does explain that Sony assured him the a7r4 had same Af as a73 etc. My guess is that it is much more muddy than that. I am sure even the person face could influence results ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VZXEW6fsNSw.html

@jamesryan1939 3 года назад

Z6ii is the best all around full frame camera with price in mind. At $2000 it is incredible, I have use the z6 since it was released, this is a solid upgrade. This is really the wedding photographers dream, but certainly is capable all around, not to mention video.

@FormlessPhotography 3 года назад

second that! Mines arrived Friday just one day after shipping started.

@thekingofhearts8687 3 года назад

absolutely!! at this price I do not think there is a better hybrid camera out there, ticks most of the boxes. Also the quality of the Z glass is brilliant!!

@Mf-lc8og 3 года назад

Yeah he is OBSESSED with Canon and Sony comparison but Sony is DEFINITELY not in the price range like this body. Especially for people like me who don'y have much money. I've learned to sell my camera bodies to help with the cost. But I have the D850 and the autofocus in my opinion sucks. I'm not sure whether I should trade in my D850 to get a Z6II. I love the resolution but I really want the speed.

@ryanconstable681 3 года назад

Considering I just went from a D7000 to the Z6 II, this camera is absolutely incredible to me.

@Leo-hh7pz 3 года назад

Just do it dude! I jump from D300 to z6 and it's already amazing.

@AlanHoey86 3 года назад

I jumped from a D40x to the Z6II lol.

@kyleyasso4166 3 года назад

I'm considering making this same jump! I primarily shoot portraits, am I really going to struggle hitting focus with the Z6ii?? I'd be shooting with a z mount 35mm prime. Alternatively I could jump over to Sony. Trying to do my AF research since missing focus is my primary issue with my D7000 (or maybe it's just me...)

@joeycastrophoto 3 года назад

I’m in the same boat. D7000 I shoot portraits and looking to jump or switch. Not sure what to do at this point.

@ryanconstable681 3 года назад

@@kyleyasso4166 my D7000 missed on focusing CONSTANTLY. That's what pushed me to pull the trigger for the Z6 ii. The autofocus, sharpness and high iso capabilities are amazing. You'll see a HUGE jump from the D7000 to the Z6 ii.

@JoeHoddinott 3 года назад

Fro bro, you don’t need to bounce that AF box in continuous AF tracking. It starts in the middle. Center it on your subject and either half-press or BBF and it sticks to your subject. Release and it’s back in the center. Super quick to swap AF subjects and always have active point.

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

yes, I will try that. I do that with all the other systems.

@championthewonderhorse9733 3 года назад

@@froknowsphoto But you don't do it with Nikon and then bag them?

@sanekn 3 года назад

Yep i agree, that's what i've done since the beginning with my Z6, works quite great, but i guess this video is about pure eye af performance.

@JoeHoddinott 3 года назад

@@sanekn he talked about bouncing the AF point with the joystick which really confused me. Since 3.0 on the Z6 you haven't had to do that for continuous AF tracking. I'd assume the Z6II is the same in that regard. I think that's a big oversight on Fro's part when making a video about showing off the AF and starts to mention his struggles and workarounds. I know it's hard to be an expert of all cameras when you're trying to review everything, but the saying stays true in many regards - jack of many, master of none. That's why it's important to also look at people who primarily shoot the system you're interested in as they have more real work experience. I enjoy Fro's humor and when he puts into his programming, but as a technical reviewer, there are others with more valuable info when you're just trying to get answers.

@jackbrumby1892 3 года назад

Right on Joe. I switched from D500 to Z6II a few weeks ago. I've never had so many in-focus shots. Maybe my shooting technique (honed for 50 years!) just works better with my new camera.

@Realletsplaygrey 3 года назад

I love my Z6. I can't wait for Nikon to catch up with the eye AF. I can't wait to see the Fro switch back!

@championthewonderhorse9733 3 года назад

I think the one flaw he identifies - about having to activate auto AF can be addressed in firmware. I also think Fro's analogy between the horse and car is not accurate when describing eye-AF. To me, it is more like AWD or 4WD - great to have but not every car user needs it. Same with eye-AF. Great for fast moving human subjects, but of little use to landscape photographers, studio photographers, still life photographers and many others. And the eye-AF suffices for 90% of user cases. So it is a false equivalence to compare cars with horses IMHO.

@danielvilliers612 3 года назад

The ads are much much closer that people think ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VZXEW6fsNSw.html

@_Just_Some1 3 года назад

Why do you need fro back? Enjoy your camera and forget about him. These million sub you tubers are all for controversy, that’s how they survive. Not honesty.

@Realletsplaygrey 3 года назад

@@_Just_Some1 I've been following Jared for 10 years. His opinions are trustworthy IMO. He's a real pro in the real world. His reviews are intensive and practical. I'm a Nikon shooter so of course I enjoy when I see people I look up to shooting nikon since RU-vid is so flooded with canon and Sony.

@cactus22minus1 3 года назад

@@Realletsplaygrey sorry, but he’s extremely click-baity. I’ve been watching a long time too, but he’s just gotten aggressively ignorant at times.

@adrianvanleeuwen 3 года назад

Totally impressed with the AF tracking of z6ii. Almost never missed focus and moved along with subject very quickly in your video. I guess to get the best out of the AF subject tracking, best to use Z lenses with dual lens motors for speed as someone in comments mentions. That and the dual processors makes AF focusing fast. Nikon, way to go!!!.

@MichaelCortese1 3 года назад

For what I shoot (almost always slow moving people and even slower moving buildings and bushes) the Z6 is more than enough for me. But god damn do all these videos want to make me upgrade, I can only imagine what Nikon is gonna do with the firmware updates and 2 processors. If you watch other side by side comparisons the Nikon is keeping up and in many cases actually winning with the AF (WHEN you use it like a Nikon and not like a Sony/Canon). And then take into account I'd rather look at a Nikon files + S glass and also the price point I don't understand how it isn't Nikon isn't the clear winner these days. At the end of the day, Nikons are producing more beautiful images, and that's all I'm concerned with

@freetibet1000 3 года назад

I love your slow moving buildings and bushes comment! I can hear you’re a Nikon lover like myself and I share your sentiment about where this Z system is going. To me it seems it’s only going to be better and better now that we know how amazing the new glasses are for the system. Great times up ahead for us Nikon lovers!

@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz 3 года назад

I have Z5 and i LOVE IT! Long live Nikon!!!

@ravinc1568 3 года назад

@@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz How would you say it's video capabilities are. I honestly am confused with the "expert" opinion, I want to hear from a user. My use will be studio recording, product recording and travel videos. Thank you. I have the D7200 and I was waiting for Nikon mirrorless.

@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz 3 года назад

@@ravinc1568 i got Z5 for photography only, but if you are looking for video work using Nikon sys. then get Z6 ii

@ravinc1568 3 года назад

@@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz Thank you, I would definitely be using for video as well. So Z6 II it is...

@pants912 3 года назад

I'll be the first to admit that I was one of the harsh critics against you bashing on nikon. But to be fair you gave everyone a great video and an unbiased opinion on this camera. I appreciate that. Well done bud. I enjoyed this video quite a bit. I apologize for my criticisms

@77dris 3 года назад

I don’t get why people think Fro would bash on Nikon. He’s not a baby like Camera Conspiracies or Gerald Undone. Jared has been a pro photographer for over a decade and tells it as he sees it. Nikon just is behind Canon and Sony and these are facts. Would people rather he lie?

@tubularificationed 3 года назад

OK-but-overpriced glass, where this problem lacks mitigation from 3rd parties, is still the no.1 issue for me. And now this video re-confirmed, that Nikon is not up to the AF task where AF really counts (i.e. people photography, i.e. eye AF usability, e.g. acquiring initial focus etc). So I don't think that Z is a rewarding upgrade target for me in 2021 (being still a Nikon DSLR shooter). I'm rather hoping now that Sony fixes some of their ergonomics issues once and for all with the A7 IV (or any new body in 2021).

@Bad_Wolf_Media 3 года назад

@@ramonarias1234 It's not just sports that are affected. If you're shooting portraits or landscapes, the AF-tracking system probably isn't that important. But those are very select fields of focus. If if you're just someone that wants to shoot your kids, they tend to be in motion. Even if that's the "only" thing that's lacking (it's not), that's still a big deal! Nikon has also been slow on releasing higher-end glass that pro shooters use. They're finally, slowly, starting to pick that up a little bit, but they're still behind, and the affordability is arguable for the better glass.

@mcunner 3 года назад

Why are you apologising when he clearly bashed Nikon without even trying the systems. Same as Tony and Chelsea. Hated on the cameras before they were even a thing.

@Extile00 3 года назад

@@mcunner Bruh, he literally uses 2 Z6's to film these videos

@jvicks22 3 года назад

Great stuff ! Thanks for making these videos! This makes me believe Nikon is really gonna bring it with the z8/z9. This seems to be a vast improvement for sure. I’ll still wait for the z8 z9 but so glad they are catching up !!

@stevennatario5967 3 года назад

So much useful information 🙌🏼 Thanks Jared for this great content!

@ushanastrivedi368 3 года назад

What I do on my Z6 is focus & recompose with subject tracking & then you don’t need to move focusing points with joystick. Once you move your camera in such a way to put box right on subject & start tracking, you can operate super quickly. Try that & things will change dramatically. Yes, during face/eye detect, there is no active point to fall back on if camera doesn’t pick. Nikon should add that & make subject tracking different focus mode like 3D tracking and you don’t need to hit buttons to activate/deactivate.

@JasinBoland 3 года назад

Hey Fro great Vid as usual. Just picking you up on the 1.8 lenses. My experience is that due to them being so much thinner, when I’m shooting a heavy backlit film poster I’m getting much less flare to the point I put my D850 and 85mm 1.4 back to bed and completed a 3 day shoot on my Z7 and 85mm 1.8. They really do have their strengths. Thanks for listening.

@SooksVI 3 года назад

Great review. Probably better to wait for a true successor for those that have a Z6. Just one note; when using the function button and tracking box, you don't have to move it with the thumb stick. Just position the camera and start focusing and it will follow. This functionality was part of a previous update Nikon did on the original Z6.

@Pmeyer1226 2 года назад

If Nikon wants my money for a z6, it’s going to have to be a z6III with an expeed7 like AF, like a mirrorless version of a D500, otherwise I see no point in giving them another dime.

@lifeafterbeats 3 года назад

Damn fine video sir. Can't wait to own a Z 6II. I'd like to say that this video gave me the confidence to buy it, but it was your 3 way Eye AF comparison a few months ago. I bought a Z 5 based on your firmware 3.0 review and based on its performance I'll be pickup up this body as well. Thanks

@lukaspictures 3 года назад

Z6s subject tracking works like 3d tracking. It's my most used af setting on z6 and it works perfectly. Fn1 button to enable it while in auto area af and you just move your camera on a subject, press and hold af on. When you stop pushing af on button subject tracking box comes back to centre. You don't need to use arrow buttons for letting camera to know where to focus.

@SouthernEmperor 3 года назад

Dang, this Z6 II is amazing. Man, I was trying to see what was happening with Nikon and I bought the 850 with alot...alot of glass a year ago. This Z6 II is a great video camera.

@BermyBwoy 3 года назад

Thanks fellas for taking the time to make this video :)

@joannespeight9505 3 года назад

Just got my Z6ll. Wanted to watch your videos on this before going out. Thanks for the help

@thekingofhearts8687 3 года назад

Great real world review!! Really useful! About the subject tracking, instead of using the joystick just point the camera at the subject and press your back button af or half press shutter button and the camera sticks to it, leave the af button or shutter button and the box returns to the middle and its a pretty fast process once you get used to it. Works well on my Z6, should work better on the newer model.

@CelsoMollo 3 года назад

As I shoot more landscapes and travel photography, like you said the auto focus is great, so I stick with Nikon because I like everything else and I am going to buy the Z 7 II . Thank you for the review.

@spangari 3 года назад

Same here ... Am leaning toward Z7 II for it’s megapixel power for kandscape and travel

@coltoncyr2283 3 года назад

From someone (enthusiast) who shot with old dslr, this focusing looks amazing enough!!

@viewfinderthis 3 года назад

Right !

@mpgnz73 3 года назад

I agree that the Nikon S lenses are extremely fast. The reason for this is that they have dual stepper motors with each one driving different element groups. There are recent videos now with side-by-side comparisons with the Canon R6 and the Nikon Z6II obtains focus more quickly every time. Nikon do need to work on the AF graphical overlay though as the user experience could be improved by increasing the refresh rate.

@RealRaynedance 3 года назад

I could be wrong, but I remember hearing that the Z6II and Z7II both have 120Hz EVFs.

@tailsnelf 3 года назад

@@RealRaynedance Nope, still 60Hz.

@SeafightMaurice 3 года назад

@@RealRaynedance Most likely this will be kept from the 2nd iteration and used for the pro-level bodies that are confirmed for 2021 ;)

@michaelc3693 3 года назад

Agreed, that focus overlay will give you seizures! It dances around like a psychotic on meth, and don't get me started on how red=in focus in AF-C but means it's not in focus on AF-S!

@stacygreene8172 3 года назад

@@michaelc3693 Strongly agree!! The colors need to be standardized! I was confused as hell when I first got it and was changing modes.

@franksamet 3 года назад

Thank you for this, it was interesting too see how how the 6 ii performed.

@MickeyKodak 3 года назад

This review was pro, not filled with Clips and Scatches in the mix... no just info... And im very happy my Z6II wil come soon with the Grip following... I just have a Z7 and im pleased with this tool

@soroorfarahnak4055 3 года назад

Thanks Jared, I am trying to choose a brand to purchase my first ever camera and your reviews are incredibly helpful.

@Hrishi1970 3 года назад

Very reassuring to see this honest real world review. It is important to call out functionality that can be improved and Nikon has always listened to their users.

@Mf-lc8og 3 года назад

Not sure you can call it "honest" since he is sponsored by Sony.

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

A quick note on why I didn't move the camera to the box vs using the joystick. First, when I am using the canon and the sony, I do exactly that, it just intuitively makes sense and is always active. With the Nikon, I needed to click the function button to turn that box on and for whatever reason, I used the joystick because that's how Nikon explained it to me when I was being briefed on the camera. So it didn't cross my mind to do the same thing as I do with the other systems. I will do that next time I am out shooting and see if it makes a difference. But I have a feeling it will let me find the subject quicker but I still don't like how that box works. In all honesty, like I said in the video, if there was a box active at all times like the Canon and Sony's, it would be much more effective.

@Chris-13 11 месяцев назад

I use both Sony and Nikon for different reasons . The focus tracking on the Nikon I have set to my function 1 button. All that is required is to initiate focus on the back button with the tracking square where you want to track … job done

@johnpeterson7264 3 года назад

Nikon will rise again !! (I hope ...)

@mikni4069 3 года назад

Yeah if their imagine division live long enough, but with their lates financial reports of the second quarter of the fiscal year that doesn’t look to promising. Nikon is struggling hard really hard, the reports more or less conclude that it needs to cut costs so the future isn’t looking very bright. Nikon is looking more and more like the Next Olympus than a brand that will make it, I would love to go back to Nikon some day, but they need better bodies and I need some sort of guarantee that my gear won’t be absolute because Nikon decide to bin the devision that looks more and more likely to happen.

@kennethbradstedlarsen5194 3 года назад

@@mikni4069 the new financial report actually looks promising. They are doing better than they expected themselves and should be profitable next year

@andreasgiobel6355 3 года назад

so will Nokia, it will kill Iphone....or? No, seriously all competition is good for consumers

@mikni4069 3 года назад

@@kennethbradstedlarsen5194 You really need to a be a big Nikon supporter to make that report look good. It might be better than feared but it’s still a bad financial report, there is no way around it, especially when you take into account that ILC market is shrinking every year.

@mikni4069 3 года назад

@Seasexnsun You could win with a m 4/3 it’s not about IQ but more about the story/subject. But let’s stay in the past.. there are many photographers who has shifted away from Nikon because they have fallen behind the race. DSLR have lost to Mirrorless on almost all fronts except things like battery run time. Most sensors Nikon uses are Sony made, there are only very few left that are made in house. Sony make several parts found in rivals cameras but people won’t realise and accept that. Nikon won’t be dominated anything if their imagine devision go broke, that’s a promise. But lets stay in fairytale land where nothing ever changes.

@pielin6636 3 года назад

Thank you for the testing. I feel your points with Nikon!

@romanpul 3 года назад

I think you have a really good point there when it comes to the AutoareaAF. When I first got the Z6 with firmware 2.0 there was absolutely no way to override it. That did improve when they added the tracking mode but I do find that a big inconvenient in some situations. I think it would be a major improvement if they either leave the tracking box there all the time or build in an override where you can tell the AF to look at a different focal plane when pressing left or right on the click wheel

@fetzie23 3 года назад

One thing I noticed about the recordings of the Nikon and Sony in the video, was that the Nikon was so shake-free it looked like you had it on a gimbal. In comparison it made the Sony look like it didn't have any VR/IBIS at all.

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

Correct, the no stabilization in the lens really caused that sony to be shaky.

@stepheneckert4006 3 года назад

Agreed, that was the first thing I mentioned to Jared as well but we doublechecked and the a7C did have steadyshot enabled but that lens has no IS, and the Nikon had VR on the lens (70-200) on top of the in-body VR which clearly works much better than the Sony.

@danielvilliers612 3 года назад

@@creamynessification yep game changer for me

@championthewonderhorse9733 3 года назад

The Sony basically doesn't have IBIS. I owned one and never noticed it, I assume because the sensor is clipped by the mount. Whereas with the Z6 I noticed that as I depressed the shutter the image was rock solid in the EVF - very similar to Olympus.

@stepheneckert4006 3 года назад

@@championthewonderhorse9733 couldn’t agree more. When we filmed handheld with the sony’s, I always noticed a ton of handshake in post, almost like this IBIS was non existent

@SlapandDash 3 года назад

Really great objective review and great examples. No such thing as bad feedback when it's so constructive. Hoping firmware updates can fix a few of those issues you mentioned. My brother has purchased the Z6ii and I am looking forward to having a play (I have the D800e).

@timk8258 3 года назад

Why are you EVER moving the subject tracking box around with the joystick? Just point it at your subject and hold down the AF-ON button until you want to switch to a different subject. Is it a perfect system, no, but using it that way would solve a lot of your usability complaints.

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

for whatever reason I didn't consider that even though that's how I use the Sony and Canon.

@duncangroenewald 3 года назад

@@froknowsphoto it's called a brain fart - happens occasionally - trump will pardon you before 20 Jan 2021 just before he pardons himself and the rest of his family. You need to do a recount - I mean a re-review...

@oliverdesouza5741 3 года назад

The Auto Area modes are designed for a situation where multiple subjects may be of interest where the most easy to focus upon one is chosen and tracked until a bigger / more significant one appears. The idea is that you are doing general family & friends type work so you just want a quick solution. Hence, you would also be at a general DoF that say f5.6 would provide. There is no way in that mode for the camera to know you want one player over another. In contrast the Single Point, Wide-Area Large & Small modes are designed so that you can select the most preferred subject either by moving the AF box to your subject, or by putting it in a typical area like dead centre, or slightly higher for portraits etc, and moving the camera to the subject. On the latest Z6ii and Z6 with firmware, once acquired the tracking algorithm applies and sticks with your subject whilst the shutter is half-pressed if that is what you want, but since you typically want your subject to be in the centre of your picture, you still are best to move the camera to follow the subject as well. This is an enhancement to the way the Single point and the Dynamic Modes on the old DSLRs worked, but actually introduces a potential risk so you should be careful with the stickiness options. Sony and Canon systems work the same and whilst they may be slightly faster to acquire the subject in the Auto-Area type modes, you cannot be sure that the subject they have picked is the one you want, hence most sports photographers still use the more selective zone modes.

@michaelnikonfuji3539 3 года назад

Love crazy from but super glad to see detailed review mixed in with his personality

@hautehussey 3 года назад

Jared, what are you talking about? It’s practically negligent of you to say that you need to arrow the tracking box around! And tells me you’re not using best practices.

@NomadicDuck 3 года назад

I thought it was pretty good. Biggest thing to me is that Nikon is definitely improving and will hopefully with either some firmware or next iteration we will see some improvements. Definitely has me more confident in picking up a Z6-ii sometime in the near future!

@IustinPop 3 года назад

Overall, very spot on and balanced review/analysis. Thanks!

@danharris2253 3 года назад

Can’t wait for the Z 7ii Autofocus test!! I’m sure firmware 1.0 will be good.. but... the future for these dual processor cameras looks very good through firmware updates (through the app connection)

@9161Wilee 3 года назад

Great review!

@nibbanapatipada9538 3 года назад

@Jared The autofocus mechanism depends on two things. 1) Processing speed - which looks like Nikon did some tweak here. 2) Most Importantly, Autofocus Logic - this comes up with firmware updates. Even though you add v6 engine to your car it is not going to move faster with the square shape wheels, right? do you have the latest firmware? without those, we can't really tell if Nikon threw away the old square-shaped wheel and put some really nice perfectly round wheels with Yokohama tires?

@lcador9 3 года назад

Additionally depends on hardware and implementation. Review the differences in such amongst the various manufacturers and you will understand why Nikon lags. Particularly look at the Sony A9 methodology.

@nibbanapatipada9538 3 года назад

@@lcador9 yes, I can completely agree with you. Canons and Sonys are doing astonishing work. But, Undoubtedly, without the firmware, there is no real insight here. It's a new horse walking with an old granny. If you do not have the newest firmware, it is not going to do any changes except doing the same thing a little faster than what it used to do. The real question is what "Nikon" thinks about it. If they think their logic is perfectly fine, they got a problem. If not, we will see that in their next firmware update for Z6II.

@bedavid 3 года назад

Jared I'm not sure you know how to use the subject tracking. Press the ok button to activate subject tracking box, point it at the subject and press okay again and it's locked on. Alternatively, you can press ok to activate subject tracking, point the box at the subject and hold the af-on button down to track. When you let go of the af-on button it snaps back to the centre and you can restart the process over to acquire a new subject.

@brianczarnecki5949 3 года назад

Yes! The back button af-on method is the way to go

@bigbrownmab189 3 года назад

Did you try to tinker with tracking sensitivity level in the settings or just leave it at its stock setting? Just curious to know how that was if you did?

@MyContestPix 3 года назад

Luv the dramatic music!!!

@hitmanhart22 3 года назад

He got some muscles back today...good review Jared

@bclowe91 3 года назад

If you keep the tracking box in the center, point and activate it on your subject, then recompose, it works a lot faster than using the joystick to move the box.

@Iamtaufiqueraza Год назад

I agree he behaves like an amateur

@ju2705s 3 года назад

RTFM... tracking AF works direktly from middle position & after activation you can directly reframe with tracking Objekts. Easier isn't possible and should also work for you...

@srikanakadurgaartscreation3724 3 года назад

Excellent explanation sir Thankyou very much

@TorridDesign 3 года назад

Great review Jared, fair points all around. Nikon's getting there. I hope the upcoming Z8/Z9 kick it up a notch with a potential pro sports model coming.

@danielvilliers612 3 года назад

Its much closer what you think ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VZXEW6fsNSw.html

@sassyfrasssmith 3 года назад

Mine arrived on Monday!! Trying to decide if I keep my D610 as a second body or trade it to put toward glass. We shall see.

@richpoinvil9618 3 года назад

For focus tracking, instead of manually moving the focus point to the subject, can't you just move the camera and then activate the AF and then recompose to start shooting? Tou 4marked about moving the focus point in the viewfinder.

@jeremey9998 3 года назад

Not sure if it because I use back button AF but, I just bring it up move the camera to the subject and lock it in then reset. I've never used the arrows or joystick with it

@scaniatacan 3 года назад

Thanks, Jared. Could you please make some low light AF test?

@1258stdavid 3 года назад

Thanks for the video Jared. Respectively I think this is an easy photo session to shoot. The constant you have is good light. I shoot soccer in the evening with stadium lighting with my D5. My ISO is pushing 12000k and I need a shutter speed of at least 1000 with a real difficult environment for the camera to focus. Let take this z6II for a spin in that environment and see how it performs. Againwhat you shot in this video isn't that difficult IMO.

@jimgreen8915 Год назад

exactly. shoot in low light in these dim stadiums and fields and then tell me. I very heard about lagging in low light, which is why I'm hesitant to buy.

@tommywinterskioldvestlie3600 3 года назад

I have both the Z6 and the Z7 today but are now upgrading them both. Received my Z6 II today and hopefully the 7 II in december which i have ordered. Really looking forward to out them into action. Regards from Sweden.

@mpgnz73 3 года назад

I got my Z6II today too! Just working through the menus as I watch this.

@Floriancharp 3 года назад

@@mpgnz73 hi, I got my Z6II few days ago, love it, I'm from a D810, I got the 24-70 2.8 S also =) Do you have any info when adobe will deliver the codec RAW ?

@tc6912 3 года назад

Shooting 14bit raw, what was your burst rate and buffer count? Based on your thoughts and some of the viewers comments, it sounds like we need another round using the system a little differently to make a better comparison. The Canon sure looks more snappy in your video, but are the results different? Thank you for being open minded and objective.

@RobRides 3 года назад

Good stuff! Thanks man!

@MaxsWorkshop 3 года назад

Hey Jared, is it now possible to preview the image in 100% view at higher apertures than f/5.6 on the Z6 II? The Z6/7 automatically stop up in 100% view, which makes it hard to get hyperfocal distance right at higher apertures. Also, do you know if the self-timer still goes off, when you turn the camera off?

@Hamalmc 3 года назад

great preview Jared.

@rjpg 3 года назад

Birds in Flight AF, please do that...the smaller, the harder it takes to focus (D500 does quite well).

@Sebas-sg1kj 3 года назад

Just downloaded some raw files, the image quality is OUTSTANDING.

@daveyineluctable5525 3 года назад

I honestly think the Nikons are getting no love simply because they don't have a single camera with a full flip screen. Seriously, the Z-mount lenses are gorgeous, the IQ is tremendous, and eve the video output via Atomos is amazing. It's just one of those damn dealbreakers, and personally I have shot MANY photos where having as full flip screen has MADE the shot, due to still being able to see the frame from very awkward angles.

@diegocuevas6064 3 года назад

@@daveyineluctable5525 I loved this comment!

@kurtier 2 года назад

I’ve had my eye on this camera since it has come out. I’m hoping that they continue to improve it with firmware updates. Is there a possibility of an updated video on your end since there has been some improvements? Thanks for the great content as always!

@skyrunr 3 года назад

I think you're missing the other/standard/common/preferred way to enable subject tracking. Center the subject, OK button twice, compose and shoot. Am I missing something? Dynamic wide now has the added eye/face tracking. Much better to move around the larger focusing box with the joystick too.

@wab99 3 года назад

I think you should make a few prints and give them to the kids. That would be pretty cool.

@bastiaanvangemert1179 3 года назад

I have a question for you, how did you open the RAW images in Lightroom from your z6 II? I cannot open them because adobe does not support it yet.

@michaelc3693 3 года назад

I think he touched on converting them to DNG for LR here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oesE2ciWIqE.html

@paulcampbell7518 3 года назад

Using the Z 85 mm 1.8 on a Z 7 regularly for professional photography - Primarily vehicles, RVs, campers, etc., and it is unparalleled in my 20+ years of professional experience. Sharp, rectilinear, fast-to-focus, virtually distortion and aberration-free - The (near) perfect way to deliver light to the incredible Nikon sensor and processing chips.

@amiroa99 3 года назад

The 85 is an exceptionally good lens, I borrowed it for a weekend workshop in summer, I took half the pictures at F 1.8, it's amazingly sharp, beautiful bokeh, the lens is light and cheap ... No need some F1.4 lens or RF 1.2 lens / 85 with R5, when my hands ached after two hours of photography. I bought a Z 85mm finally, for 700 € it is a "must have" lens, and now, with the Z7II, it's a great combo...

@alhowse 3 года назад

Jared- do you have a video showing a first time user (came from a D700) how to setup and use the new eye focus, etc on the Z6 II??

@hugay1 3 года назад

Thanks Jarred i love nikon too also know what they are lacking behind but like what you said the nikon glass i really in love with. just the body need to upgrade to keep up to be the same level of the Competitors

@lcador9 3 года назад

I failed to compliment you on an excellent attempt to evaluate and document the autofocus system of the Nikon Z6 ll with reasonably fast moving sport action. By far the most comprehensive when compared to other channels attempts to date. Jared, you get two, no three, check marks!

@59jll 3 года назад

Hello, Did you notice a big difference compared to the Z6? Is it worth upgrading from the Z6 to the Z6ii? Thanks.

@TheAccidentalPhotographer 3 года назад

2 Questions Jared - 1) do you think a similar level of improvement will be made in this system from 1.0 to 3.0 like we saw with the original Z and where do you think that might take the AF for Nikon in your opinion & 2)at what point does the AF get to the point that its close enough for the things the Z does better than Sony & Canon (colours, ergonomics, glass etc) to make it more appealing for those not invested in a system or that have a use case that requires 8k video or top of the line AF for professional work? Finally just one point on the glass, I am not sure Nikon will bring out 1.4's. The 1.8's (while I get you don't believe they are Pro for your needs) are arguably better than F mount and competitor 1.4 glass (not to mention smaller & less expensive) and they seem to be focusing on 1.2's for genuine Pro glass. I suspect they will have 1.2's at pro prices & 1.8's for the prosumer market which, at more competitive prices and better quality, likely make the overall system cheaper for most of the undecided market.

@Ryanfunk080 3 года назад

I have the z5 and I’ve had so much trouble with it focusing in basic light indoors. What is the low light auto focus like because as a wedding shooter I’m tired of it front focusing

@SmartCaster 3 года назад

Why you need to move white box of subject tracking with arrows buttons? Why you not just move camera lock subject and recompose ( it's way faster) ?

@froknowsphoto 3 года назад

didnt even cross my mind like it does with the sony or canon

@SmartCaster 3 года назад

@@froknowsphoto That's typical workflow, which i'm using with Nikon Z6 original. If i see, that the camera don't recognize face/eye then i switch on subject tracking, white box is showing up. Then i move camera to put white box on my aim, push AF-ON (start tracking) and recompose as i need it. It's very fast process in real life.

@LEVIDOG03 3 года назад

I just love the work you do showing through the viewfinder, I was trying to do the same with my Atomos Ninja Blade and every time I take a shot it restarts the recording. I also only have a maximum of 20 seconds recording, when the Z6 is in camera mode, before it restarts again. Do I need another Atomos?

@lesterbean07 3 года назад

Thanks for all the info! I just switched from the d750s and I feel like a lost lamb lol. I used to use back button focus and the focusing modes on this camera are so confusing to me. Think you could create a guide on how to use this camera starting with settings, then talk about the focusing system (when and how to use the face/eye detection for still and moving subjects). I think as someone who feels clueless it would make it so much easier if someone would create a “how to use the z6ii in everyday portrait photography.” Maybe I’m just dense 🥴 I appreciate you and all the info! ✌🏻

@ChrisBoland 2 года назад

I feel the same. I just sold my D750 cameras and have been having a terrible time with the Z6II autofocus.

@lesterbean07 2 года назад

@@ChrisBoland I do feel it’s getting better with practice. But, on if my toggle buttons is a little sticky 😬

@spyrosbotsolis2125 8 месяцев назад

you are soooooooo right about z6ii autofocus. I use it for weddings. i have the couple 8 feet away from me. when use the single point, it focuses in the background 50% of the time. the eye autofocus is excellent as long as you use it on still faces. and during the dances it misses alot no matter what autofocus mode you use. its slow and you can miss many good shots.

@spyrosbotsolis2125 8 месяцев назад

@@GolfWhisky well I was stupid enough to sell my d750 and buy 2 bodies z6ii. But I am trying to make the camera work at its best by using it and learn more about its autofocus. thank you for your reply.

@Govinnu 3 года назад

So the final word is...Z6II is not as good as Canon or Sony for sports and action. Shoot.I am not a sports photographer and I can survive with Z6II. My thoughts are Nikon should find another sensor supplier to survive in the game. Sony is not going to give their best sensors to the competitors.

@RyanOttawayMartin 3 года назад

Absolutely love the the homage to what feels like a Michael Bay 90's soundtrack. Very... 'The Rock' RIP Sir Connery.

@Jeppyboi83 3 года назад

Fair review. I hope Nikon is taking notes.

@CaptainHurricane 3 года назад

Do you think it is possible to make the minor improvements to the autofocus system that Jared talks about , with a firmware upgrade ?

@ericecheverry 3 года назад

Thanks, Jared.

@Mister_M3780 3 года назад

Well, perhaps they can improve the experience via a firmware update. I mean, look at the improvements they achieved on the Z6 and Z7 with firmware updates. I think, they've a good starting point with the 2nd generation. Greetings from Hamburg, Germany

@garfieldirwin 3 года назад

I think further improvements via firmware updates are guaranteed. Nikon's software engineers are still very much in learning mode...but are learning fast.

@danielvilliers612 3 года назад

Look at this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VZXEW6fsNSw.html

@liciniooliveira-becas3618 3 года назад

@Jared Polin. Jared, what's up with the sky in many of the pictures, like at 8:32 for ex.? Is it banding or excessive contrast? I see too much color/contrast, way "punchy" for a professional body camera. Just don't know if it's due to editing or natively.

@alexaalejandromedia3298 3 года назад

Great video, Jared!

@eddenton9107 3 года назад

I just got my Z6II yesterday. I take all the photos for our cat rescue. I had about a half hour to play with it yesterday. My other camera is a D750. It took me a bit of playing with it to figure out how to change settings in manual. ( The manual that comes with is useless LOL). But after the initial few tries I am pretty amazed at the difference in the sharp focus of the eye tracking on the cats. Out of about 25 photos I see two that missed and this may be motion blur. It was not very good lighting at all. I will know more soon but so far....wow, I am pretty impressed. But I'm sure I would be with the Sony. I already invested in Sigma glass for Nikon so nothing worth switching to Sony here.

@Yesthankyou8 3 года назад

I have a canon camera but I find the Nikon photos have something special about it, not sure if it’s the colours but the images come out really special. I’ve been considering switching to Nikon

@joelhernandez2469 3 года назад

Hey... I'm curious, what body and lenses do you use? Canon L lenses have great contrast and color.

@Yesthankyou8 3 года назад

@@joelhernandez2469 I have an RP and rf 35mm 1.8 and rf 24-70... the lenses are gorgeous but big and heavy... and expensive. I love colours too but just think Nikon and Fuji have something quite special. I’m considering the switch also due to weight and price of its cameras and lenses. I may end up going for APSC sensor if I manage to let go of full frame depth of field

@joelhernandez2469 3 года назад

@@Yesthankyou8 rf 24-70. Nice! That is a heavy lens with IS and the 82 mm filter size. A couple of thoughts: I have the 6Dmk2 and 5Dmk3 and I know the 6d2 and RP have the same sensor or at least almost the same exact sensor (am not sure if there was an update to it). I have noticed that my 6d2 sometimes over exposes couple of times in tricky lighting situations even after changing the metering mode. My colors seem odd at times compared to the exposures of the 5D3 (using the same lenses). This is something I haven't tested in a studio but just something I have noticed using it in the real world. With that being said, I am not sure if it's the best idea to switch camera systems just based on colors. I am assuming you edit your pics? If not, then that may be a good reason to switch. Also keep in mind that full frame cameras are better at using higher ISO than APSC cameras, something I am sure you are aware of ;)

@arunashamal 3 года назад

@@joelhernandez2469 have you shot Nikon?

@arunashamal 3 года назад

@@Yesthankyou8 The only Canon I'd applaud for its colors is 5D mark 1.. everything else that came after that has inferior colors compared to Nikon... and yes Nikon lenses do render images beautifully than L lenses...L glass have great technical qualities...but if you think about the character of a lens, Nikon all day everyday

@lavernewhite8 3 года назад

For portraits & control environment it's a winner 👍🏾👍🏾

@christy.c.hunter 3 года назад

Jared, has your opinion on the focusing changed since the April 2021 firmware update? I'd love to know your thoughts!

@AGag47 3 года назад

Seems no one wants to review this camera for wildlife so here goes. Compared to the Z6, the Z6II is vastly improved. Shooting with the Nikon 200-500 and the Tamron 70-200F2.8 G2 the II acquired focus more quickly and stuck on the subjects much more consistently than the previous version. I used the Wide Animal focus mode in CA-F. Panning shots were easy to capture and consistent while birds coming at you head on was better but not D500 level. With BIFS the Z6 would acquire but as quickly lose the subject but the Z6II "sticks" better. Since Adobe hasn't updated RAW for this camera, a workaround is to change the camera model from Z6_2 to Z6 in the exif and Lightroom will work. I prefer doing this to using Nikon's Capture NX software. I have the Meke MK Z7-G extended grip on both cameras and fit perfectly which to me means there's no difference in grip size. Even if your evf is in "automatic display switch" mode, if you pull out your LCD just a little, the camera won't switch to EVF mode when shooting at waist level. Battery level is improved. The Z6 accepted my third party batteries but the Z6II did not. I don't know if that's for all third party batteries. That was also the case for the Z5.

@trym2121 3 года назад

Huh? You should be able to just put the subject tracking box in the middle then acquire subject and move the camera whichever you want. Does eyeaf outside the box overrides the subject tracking box or keep steady on the subject box?

@diongalbreath9441 3 года назад

I just ordered a z6ii from ebay and should have it tomorrow. I’m coming from a d7200, I use it for my daughters nighttime football marching band. It has a scene selection on top and I set it to dusk/dawn. I see there is no scene setting on the z6ii. What would comparable settings be?

@jasonhowells7758 3 года назад

Nice review of the z6ii but I will say the overlay needs some tweaking, there is something magical about nikon colors and that 3d pop with the new lenses it is better than any other company. I also think that overtime with FW updates the cameras will get much better as I think the have hardly taped the extra juice out of that 2nd cpu.

@danielvilliers612 3 года назад

Yes bit it is not as clear cut as you would think ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VZXEW6fsNSw.html