Nikon Z6II vs Canon R5 vs Sony A7III Autofocus Comparison- This is what I learned! 

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Hey Manny, I saw a great video from the Monochrome Memoirs channel where they tweak some custom settings to improve the AF performance in the z6. You should try those, and also optimize settings in the other cameras and repeat the test. Here's the custom settings for the z6ii: Change setting "a3" to "1". Change setting "g4" to "+5" and for "When to apply" choose "Always". Change setting "g5" to "High". Use AF-C.

One thing not mentioned. The Nikon allows you to switch between right and left eye with a click,. But the Sony and Canon don't. That is a huge advantage. Get the wrong eye with a Sony or Canon and you need to recompose.

Thank you for these unbiased real world actual use-case tests

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Whice best for weding z6 ii vs z 7 ii

@@l.c.ahir. z6ii, the higher megapixels of the z7ii are not necessary for wedding shootings. Plus the z6ii has the higher burst rate (pictures per second). I would pick the z6ii

@@matic2601 thnks for information

@@mainmain5303 Yes and it's 2 years younger... so... what the generation number means...

@@mainmain5303 Well... i think all the systems are more or less on the same plane... in this video the Nikon wins the first test,m but the Sony for example win the second and third (the model who walk in front of the camera)... so for me is a "tie"... what i mean in the previus comment is that the number of the generation doesn't count because now all have the same technology avaiable

@@mainmain5303 It's not even all auto focus, it's literally just the face / eye AF from a distance, lol. The A7iii doesn't even have working IBIS, and has the worst ergos. The Canon is impressive but also costs 2x as much as the Z6ii

But these weird Sony colors and this too much digital style will never change. That's why I switched my A7 ii to a Z6 and I couldn't be happier. With the firmware 3.0 the AF has much improved, and this video shows Nikon will soon reach the top, with firmwares.

I'm afraid that Nikon Z might well become the new Pentax of the mirrorless age, because Z is a lonesome-island monopoly system with no 3rd party support, but instead it has a too limited choice of too monopoly-priced (overpriced) lenses. Z's market share (which is still not departing) will not attract any 3rd party AF lens support (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina) in any foreseeable future. So I think that Nikon will continue to lose market share, and in e.g. 10 years the Z market share might have declined towards the levels where Pentax is currently in the DSLR world. I'm so pessimistic about Z for the longer term, that at the moment I don't intend to upgrade from my Nikon D7200 to Z. Instead, I'm awaiting what 2021 will bring (e.g. an A7 IV update, and then re-assess the options again).

@@tubularificationed Ah, that is ok. Nikon will be a good attachment to DJI, Fuji or Sony. Nikon owns a lot of patens which can be exploited.

​@@tubularificationed lol..dude... people to this day make professional videos with 50 year old Nikkor glass. Pro photographers use old Nikkors all the time. Nikkor is the second most popular lens system after Leica M..Do you think anyone running out to buy a Tamron or a Sigma that is more than 20 years old? If anything, 3rd parties want Nikon more than Nikon want them.

@@tubularificationed rumor has it tamron will make z Mount lenses. nikonrumors.com/2020/06/15/rumors-tamron-to-make-mirrorless-lenses-for-nikon-z-mount.aspx/

@@tubularificationed I have the Tamron 24-70 2.8, Tamron70-200 2.8, Tamron 35 1.8 and Tamron 85 1.8, Sigma 12-24 2.8. I shot 4 portrait sessions and 3 weddings in less than a month after getting the camera in hand and faced no issues in autofocus. To substantiate my statement, our website is www.subhankarbarai.com What more 3rd party support can I ask?

Yes. Also the Sony isn't in Real Time Tracking-that's the mode designed to stick to eyes even if objects are in front of the subject. (Disclaimer, I work with Sony's media team.)

Just for the clarification, it would be good to mention how the AF responsiveness was set up on each camera. I have Focus tracking on my Nikon z6ii set up to Fast and it reacquires focus from a blocked shot super fast.

Yeah, I believe this is the case with all. I can tweak the sensitivity settings of my z6II, such as time delay in refocusing on objects that obstruct the subject.

I saw a video from Monochrome Memoirs which showed how to tweak the settings in the (original) z6, and the Eye-AF was significantly improved. I think Manny should try those settings.

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Is internal 10 bit 422 a confirmed coming update?

@@professionalpotato4764 Incorrect, Its 10bit 4.2.2 upto 30p via HDMI and upto 12bit If you have the paid pro res raw / black magic upgrade. The update coming est Feb, allows 60p internally @ 8bit in DX Crop (1.5x Focal). However I tested out the 8bit on the z6ii and I can confirm that its absolutely stunning anyways.

@@professionalpotato4764 they ware not officially declare what updated coming in next firmware.... Except for 4k 60p..as we was not expect after releasing Nikon Z6 II Firmware Update Version 1.01 Released . But we expect because of dual processor may be they add this..

@@bif0978 I see. Thanks for clarifying. I really hope they can release full readout pro-res raw and internal 10 bit in a firmware update. Having to pay an additional $900 just for 10 bit is a huge dealbreaker for me. And the line-skipped pro-res makes it as future-proof when I scale up.

@@professionalpotato4764 From my understanding. 10 bit output to an external recorder is natively supported

acknowledging there is a simple work around or that a camera has a different work flow is a major point reviews always seem to miss with these tests

I just switched from Canon and not looking back! Love the files that come out of Nikon.

Great ergonomics, great buttons, great IBIS, great menus, great grip and now 2 card slots, better AF, eye-AF that allows you to switch between right and left eye, and proper grip, and great IQ and colour SOOC, for a price less than Sony or Canon. What's not to like?

@@RejeRush which Canon did you switch from, out of curiosity?

@@cooloox The EOS R. I've used the R6 as well but wasn't too impressed by the files in comparison to Nikon.

You're a hardcore fan

ASML laughs in EUV

Well it wasn't on top in this video, so I beg to disagree 😂.

A7IV dropping next year, time for Nikon to "catch up" again.

bruh a7iii doesn't have the latest focusing tech

Explain please!

@@TheRichard2025 z6ii : 2000€, eos r5: 4385€. And the Speed of the z6ii is only a little bit slower.

@@benjamingless7120 Dishonest comparison. These cameras are chalk and cheese. Try birds in flight or high speed sports. Look at the megapixel count. You'd need to compare the Z6ii to the R6 or Z7ii to the R5 to keep it real.

Or you could just go with the r6 and get basically everything except the megapixels in the r5

The $2500 r6 has the exact same af performance as the r5

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About time someone compared last generation Sony tech with recently released Canon and Nikon bodies?

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Nikon and Canon are ahead : colors are more natural, contrast and rendering are more film-like whereas Sony is more digital. Canon sensors dynamic is average...

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ever heard of Taylor Jackson?

Taylor Jackson (a very successful wedding photographer and major RU-vidr) discusses this fact a lot. It is the reason that he is using the Z6 II over the Canon R6.

@@LUITESLIFE not like on s Nikon its more action - and not everything is saved.

Finally someone who mention this!!

Yes 🙌🏻 I absolutely agree with this. Eos r5 Is too costly and it cannot be compared with Nikon z6 ii . But I’m pretty much sure that Nikon will give it back to all canon and Sony users , thank you. Happy Christmas 🎄☺️🙌🏻

@@aneesahmed4564 I believe the image quality and the files from Nikon body are much better than Canon... Canon seems so unsaturated and boring... I'm talking specifically about the R series not DSLRs... Canon DSLR colours are better...

how is the situation after the year? :D not as expected, huh? ;))))

@@eM4rio I own Z6ii happy with the AF, it does the job pretty well. Not Sony level but very close. Nikon still got time to release better firmware update

@@nagual2335 yeah, they will release Z6III with the same AF level as A7iii was as new update :D . Right now, Z6II is comparable with a7ii I guess. So not so great. I love Nikon's as they are tough and great build bodies. But beside AF problems, lenses options are very limited with them. You can get cheaper + better lenses for Sony instead for Nikon.

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Manny’s channel is a treasure

@@ShotByGreenLightTV stop spamming ffs

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@@ShotByGreenLightTV good luck with the spam reports.

The Z5 already has really good subject tracking and face tracking. Firmware updates will make it even better BUT it's still quite good. You can watch a lot of videos in decent situations compared to the A7iii and it performs just as good. On top of that, the Z5 has amazing IBIS and none of the Sony FF cameras have working ibis.

@@RiposteThis completely agree, but it can always be improved, right? Fuji just pushed a firmware that gets the AF speed of the X-T3 up to the level of the X-T4.

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It is not a workaround, it is expected the photographer to choose the desired subject. Not using the settings, just pointing the camera in the general direction it INTENTIONALLY selects the nearest subject which is appropriate for a camera to assume the nearest subject. That is a feature people like in the D850, the best pro DSLR made. Those of us who read the manual do not have problems with missed focus. Nikon assumes the photographer knows which subject he wants and allows him to select it but even if AF picks the subject and it is not the one desired, it is very easy to switch to the subject to the right or left instantly. Notice how when the Sony locked on the wrong subject it was hard to override the camera's choice. For groups or weddings, the Nikon is better reflecting how they are actually used. When the Sony selects the wrong subject you have to pull the camera off the scene entirely to let is try again until it guesses correctly. The Nikom switching between subjects with the joystick button or the multifunction button, one press of the multifunction switch in the direction of the desired target results in the focus point instantly capturing the next face in the direction you pushed the button or joystick. Works great and is perfect where subjects are close together but on different focal planes, like a group shot of a wedding party. Remember also, focus and the focus indicator is not the same. Several RU-vid channels have pointed that out, Sony has a fast colored box but it does not indicate whether focus has been attained and more than one reviewer discovered that more shots were in focus on the original Z6 than a73 in burst or rapidly moving erratic subject. That is also related to focus peaking, the Z6/7 are joys to manual focus for fine are or old MF lenses because it is so accurate but Sony users seldom use focus peaking because actual focus and focus indication are not that close to each other.

@@stanspb763 if it’s expected for the photographer to pick the subject then why does auto area af exist? It’s expected upon the photographer in other modes but I don’t understand how you can say that when the whole point of auto area af is the camera deciding the subject especially when it has face and eye detection.

@@stanspb763 well said and spot on! Nikon 850 is still my dream camera. Nikon user here thank you!

@@stanspb763 you earned a sub. thank you!

Agreed! Since when is how good a camera soley dependent on auto focus? The z6ii has so much more to offer!

The siii is leaps and bounds ahead of the a7iii, it’s only a matter of time before the iv gets the same one and widens the gap again. The siii is incredibly tenacious and honestly is way more accurate than the nikon or canon. The siii doesn’t get tricked by the lamp post the same way the a7iii does.

"easily fixed" how do you know it's easy, are you part of their development team? 😛

@@RiceCubeTech except that Many says the very opposite in this review

One BIG advantage Nikon has is the ability to switch focus between the eyes with a click. It's fantastic. I had a Sony and it often went to the wrong eye and to get it off the eye I had to turn away and recompose. With the Nikon, if the AF has gone to the wrong eye, I can click it across in a split second. The Sony A9s do that, and cost more than 2x more. I don't think the Canon does it. It's a big benefit.

I just touch AF the rear lcd screen if this happens or use the new 3d tracking on the old z6

@@xophaser I understand that is an option but that doesn't work for me during a fast paced wedding event. I cannot take my eyes off the viewfinder but as I said, I can always use subject tracking.

Do you use Wide area Eye detect AF mode with that box?

@@TaipeiGeek Yes you can. However I found toggling between subject tracking and normal eye/face detect as a faster and convenient option for me

Whatever works for you 👍

@@MannyOrtiz I wish you used Wide area Eye detect AF mode with that box. Since Nikon has that and others not, it would be good to show the advantage of Z6 II. People will buy the camera just because of that feature.

But, that is the point of Eye-AF or Face AF. The camera finds the eyes or face of a subject in the frame for you. I used to use a small AF area or single AF point with less advanced cameras AKA DSLRs and old mirrorless cameras to focus when photographing portraits. Your camera can still miss focus or focus on something else if the subject continuously moves, if the AF area is still too big, or if the focus is just off. But, with these cameras, you don’t have to worry about those things. They will lock onto an eye. Yes, they will occasionally miss focus, but you don’t have to move your AF box around or do focus and recompose.

@@n0f4ke74 I'm a Z 6II user and you're right, one of the wide area modes would have been better in that scene. I was just commenting on the results of the Auto-Area AF mode.

​@@n0f4ke74 You are right. i'm happy with my New Nikon Z5 and i don't like using Eye Af even if i have the best Sony camera! because i like to move my focus point to the place i want in the frame and i will not relay on Eye Af and hope my subject eye be in focus. if you need the MAX. benefits, then use your original skills and let the EVF help you to do that, but not to let the camera do everything. (The pilot switch off the Autopilot during landing and takeoff) Thanks!

I added a Z6 II to my Z6, and while I see a noticeable improvement in AF and general responsiveness, the Z6 is still an amazing camera. That 50mm f1.2 on the other hand is going to be epic. You’ve done the right thing.

@@ghas4151 heck yeah man. I love how the af is. I'm just so happy seeing good news with nikon. I want all cameras to succeed. Not leica. They suck hahahha

True that - it is impressive! Seems like Nikon is right there though, and I doubt it will be long before they are all literally on par with each other, which means its time to start looking at other criteria - like build quality and the quality of the RAW files. That said, all the cameras today are awesome. If you can't get the shot with any of them, then you aren't a photographer.

@@baronsilverton6504 I have the Z6 and R6. R6 files are good and AF is just fast! But I'm finding Z6 RAW files (not even the Z6ii) better. Just more flexibility and dynamic range IMO.

@@baronsilverton6504 The Nikon Z Mount is the Opposition Killer though ..

@@R2X2Z Its pretty well known that Nikon RAW files are among the best in the business. Canon has always lacked for dynamic range - the DR is better on the R5 and R6 than past Canon cameras but not yet up to Nikon's level - so yes your experience is more confirmation of this fact. I also find the build quality superior on Nikon to both Sony and Canon - this has yet to change either.

@@Mr09260 Agreed - going forward Nikon should be able to develop the best lenses. They should be able to maintain best edge to edge sharpness due to the closest flange distance of 16mm and any other lens can be adapted to Nikon but not the other way around. Sony E mount is already adapted to the Z system and apparently the adaptor works very well. It will not be long before Canon RF lenses can be adapted as well - but Z glass can never be adapted to the RF system. Nikon definitely has the long term edge - assuming that they survive the next 12-24 months - but I believe that they will. I think they can afford to lose money for a few years - this was built into their model moving forward. They are taking the steps in layoffs etc that they need to take to get past this time period and back on top :)

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Till you go home and half of your photos (moving subject) is slightly out of focus ! That’s what made me sell my Z6/7 I see some improvements finding the subject but how quick is it to follow a walking person God knows but i dont trust Nikon anymore. Truth said: their files are amazin

@@moealyasini2784 "half of your photos (moving subject) is slightly out of focus!" Then you are a bad photographer!! Shame on you not the camera!

@@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz lol yeah? Then why are all my photos are in focus now with my Canon R5 ? Lol you’re stupid

​@@moealyasini2784 The stupid thing is when a photographer like you relay 100% on the camera to get the photos in focus! ... sorry you are just a camera user not a true photographer. You know!! The best photographers in the history didn't have all these technologies in the past but they created art that will last forever!

I am working on a movie project and I was sent two Sony photos of portrait of actors they needed to retouch. Oh good, never saw lifeless images like that. it was in raw and under good conditions. I was bemuse what to do.

Canon color is the holy grail of color science.. how dare you. ( Just in case I am a canon fanboy embassador)

@@ivankiefer3886 I am happy for you being a fanboy. Enjoy your narrow perspective. But, a word of advice, get your eyes tested. The pictures of people in this video clearly demonstrates Nikon’s better rendition of skin tone.

@@mikehyde8225 Nikon Z6 (I) shooter here. Canon is MILES ahead in color science, especially in skintones.

if only internet was wise enough to understand... its borderline stupidity to see videos basing nikon for silly reasons

Totally understand where you are coming from. However, being someone that is fortunate enough to have their hands on the latest and greatest tech in cameras, this is the only thing that stands out to me about the Z6II. Until you experience what the other brands have to offer is when you will start to become spoiled lol I’ve praised all of the other benefits of this system on other videos. You make great points about build quality ext but this video was specifically based on wide area AF since that’s how I shoot.

Yeah man off with their heads! 😂😂

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How much you want for it

@@chriswalker6233 I am not selling it yet.

You mean the Z50

@@mainmain5303 Totally correct. I am fan of cameras that are awesome 👌👌

Thank u

Happy 97 Bday to you

Have fun with your slow AF workflow and OOF photos, grandpa 😌

@@joenicolette youd be surprised on the age bud. I just don’t rely on autofocus. Take auto focus away from those who do and what happens? You get blurry images because you don’t know how to focus.

@@joenicolette lol it’s truly remarkable how in 2020 people still hold on to cumbersome workflows when technology can free them 😂😆😂. But.... it’s a free country 👋

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Nikon rules ?! It's a dead company. They are next on the list.

@@Makta972 on your list?? :D if so, i am not afraid :)

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If you have those cameras, can you compare how fast AF of A7r3 vs Canon R5? Is A7r3 still good at the moment?

I’ve seen a few reviews where the R6/R5 85 f2 combo can’t keep focus with moving subjects.

@@livejames9374 This was terrible news for me, I had to cancel the pre-order and take time to think about the situation. Perfect lenses for me "on paper" and terrible in reality. They just don't have time to do anything in video mode! ((((

@@vadimverenitsyn maybe there will be a firmware update.

@@livejames9374 last chance, yep! (((

AF is great on the A7III, but it's only one aspect of the equation. There is more to a camera than just AF.

It's eye AF is better than cameras coming out this year, but the other AF it is not. Plus it doesn't have ibis, and has the worst ergos. The Nikon subject tracking is absolutely incredible.

@@jtes1442 That's a video which focuses on the AF, so do I. Also, the A7 III it's at 1/3 of the price of the R5...

@@RiposteThis The A7 III HAS ibis, Canon and Nikon had to put them in their camera because Sony did. The Nikon tracking is the worst, but that's know. Again, if Manny had used the A9 II or the A7S III which have a superior AF than the 'old' A7 III...

@@Riedle_ It technically has IBIS, but it DOES NOT WORK. You can watch a million reviews about it, you can check multiple sources. The E mount is a CROP SENSOR mount, so when they put the FULL FRAME SENSOR into that mount, the mount covers the corners of the sensor, so the IBIS can't move the sensor enough to actually do anything. The Nikon eye AF tracking is the worst forsure, but the subject tracking option is the best. Until Sony gets rid of the E mount and moves to one better, it'll never have IBIS, which is super shitty.

For example - the Z6II struggling in the video around 3:45 with distance to the subject - this has been specifically addressed with the new firmware - it would be great to see how it did now in comparison.

There are so many factors that play into this decision. Right now, Sony has a huge advantage in lens options which is why I’m kept it as my main system