Nikon Z6III vs Sony A7IV: Not even in the same league 

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Precisely why i switched from sony to nikon this year after 4 years…Sonys function very well, but the colours are always tough work…nikon is a joy to creatively work with, in photo its even more so i feel… and…INTERNAL 6K RAW ARE U KIDDING ME… :)…

@@EzMeck Thanks for your insight, this is very valuable information!

Just because you have nikon sony doesnt become bad. No one competes with sony while taking pictures. Videos? How many people buy camera for videos other than creators? If you are a creator you dont have budget for a1, a93 etc , then the content quality is pathetic

@@abhisekmohanty4959 i dont think anyone here claimed the Sony was bad? I built my Filmmaking career either the a7s3, i LOVED that camera. Sonys Efficiency and Function are amazing. Nikon cant compete with Sonys IBIS or AF-Performance when it gets hectic…BUT: the overall IMAGE that Nikon internal RAW can produce is better. It has a higher ceiling because its RAW and Nikons colour science is easier to work with. RU-vid is FULL of People claiming Nikon cant compete, and here were simply stating that Sony might be overrated sometimes, because their colours require much, much more work, even tho their cameras are indeed excellent.

Good choice!

dont get it. when you sell a camera you will lose 200$ which is the exact amount they will discount that nikon for. how is that math going to work out?

u are wasting time and money in changing brands. What an hobby

Looking back at this video and using the Z6 iii more, S5iiX… nah.

@@FramesTM you guys spend time in buying gear....Let me see the video s u do please

Welcome to the channel!

Im curious about F mount lenses on this Z6III camera? Do you have some experience on this? I have 4 lenses F mount. And i think Z mount lenses for nikon are too expensive.

True. If I want the Z6III, I would just wait for the big discount that Nikon offers sometimes.

Strange indeed

@@felm.974 likely to see a discount in christmas? :D

@@thefocalcode Yes, they did it for the Z8 (Iwish I had waited lol) so they might do it for this camera, if not by Christmas, then by the spring.

Yes.. Or it should've had a 30MP sensor.🥹

Well, changing lenses during wildlife is a rare thing. And it depends on practice how quickly you can do it. We’ve been changing lenses like that forever

The Z6iii has fantastic AF. I feel same as the Z8. Could be even slightly better. In image quality the Zf is beautiful. The RAW files are better than Z8’s. But you can’t spot much difference in 99.99% scene in terms of image quality in most situations between the z6iii and Zf

If you are on a budget, then probably yes, if not, you would probably benefit from the resolution of the Z8 🙂

Oh yes

@@JosefFoti Thinking of moving from Canon to Nikon as Nikon has got the best wildlife lenses lineup currently. I wanted to invest more in glass , so i was thinking of getting mid-range body with a good glass to start off.

@ShoebSaiyad go with the z6iii. Lenses are always more important

@@FramesTM how above dynamic range ? I heard its not that great ? What would you say ?

My simple answer to that is, you can use manual mode in any camera. But the joy of being able to track and subject when it’s doing the cutest thing ever out in nature… nothing can put a value on that

What you have gone for is an excellent set up though!

Get the E to Z adapter! makes Sony E lenses focus and work on Nikon.

100%. The Z6iii is many leagues ahead. Megapixel is the only advantage on the D850. If you don’t need to crop more than 50% of the times then sell it and get the Z

Buy the Z8 to replace the D850, otherwise you may regret!

Resolution of D850 (45MP) compared to Z 6iii (24.5mp) were not as dramatically different as it seems, if both had an OLPF. But the Z 6iii has one and the D850 has not. If both were the same then doubling resolution (think in PPI) means doubling a sensor of X*Y=MP becomes 2X*2Y=4MP. However the OLPF - introduced to help software in deBayerisation of the raw image - takes a lot of sharpness away that is not a problem at 24MP but 36MP and higher gets in the way. Compare in DxOMark Nikon's D800 (with OLPF) to the D800E (Eliminated OLPF) by having the sharpest F-mount lens on both. You'll be shocked to see the difference. Next compare a D750 or so to the D800 and you'll see that the impact of more MP on sharpness is less. Same applies between D800E and D850. The difference between a full frame 24MP with OLPF though and a 45MP without OLPF is huge. If you only shoot video that doesn't need the extra MP the Z 6iii is fine. If you frequently print very large where people can walk up to your prints, buy the Z 8. I migrated from a 24MP D camera to the Z 7 when firmware was at 2.0 to get rid of the OLPF that had caused me some color cast in stronger backlit scenes, and to get rid of 45 years of chromatic aberration with pro F mount lenses. Also tint differences are gone between "S" class Z lenses. Buy a Z 8 with FTZ as migration strategy and replace lenses one by one.

@@jpdj2715 Great insight and perspective, this greatly helps me, thank you!!

Do not sell d850

I mean plz go for the Z8 if weight is no concern. And if you’re okay with tilt screen. It will get better updates even I think.

@@FramesTM thank you

I have another doubt if you can clear I have d750 but I used Z7ii for some time and found raw photos are so noisy in normal lighting or with on camera flash so I have denoising them. JPEG pics are good out of camera as I am not professional don

don’t want to give much time for editing. Z8 maybe same noise issue will be there. Z6iii I guess will be noise free in raw.

@sibasishmohanty7871 See generally higher mp pictures are noisy. But the main issues of how Lightroom interprets Nikon Z files. Just always bring down clarity and structure to -10 each. Check if any sharpening is added by default. If so then bring that down to 0. Also ensure that contrast is set to 0. Then save that as a preset. That will make the files look smooth as butter. Each time, just apply the preset and then start editing the rest.

I always feel Sony autofocus is better when I am not testing it. Our perceptions played games with us. The reality is often different. The Z8 has been shown to do better af in birding than A1. So!

A6700 has AI autofocus that A7r5 and A93 have. A7iv doesn’t.

I agree. I have both the Z8 and A7iv. It's because the Samyang lens is far inferior to native Sony lenses.

@@TyLaiMD what

@@livejames9374 He is using the samyang lens on the A7iv, which is a 3rd party lens and not as accurate as a sony lens would be.

Funny, my video on it is coming in a few hours

Are you asking me how the Z6iii compares with the Z8?

What the title says friend. That camera. There is no A7SIV yet

​​@@FramesTM he's talking about 0:08 honest mistake 2:43

@@FramesTMlol you kept saying A7S4 then can’t admit that you made a mistake.

@fjaajf I admit I said. It’s also written A7IV. It’s also known that there’s no A7SIV yet. Therefore unless you’re being strange, you can’t miss the intended communication.

You get the dynamic range you get no matter how you use it

Agree

Haha that’s a slip of the tongue man. I am also reviewing the A7S3. So that was on my mind

True

What lenses do you own

@@FramesTM Tamron 27-75 2.8, Sony 50 1.2, 85 1.8, 11 1.8, Samyang 35 1.8, 18 2.8 For Nikon only the 40 F2

@@FramesTM btw, 24-70 F2 coming to Sony so don’t give away that Sony body ;)

@zakiradi450 Ya well won’t but that kind of lens. It’s for confused people.

@@FramesTM not at all dude. It will be a dream lens for traditional wedding photographers. No need to switch between cameras for portraits and function shots. Also if they manage to keep it around the weight of 2.8 lens then perfect for travel.

Nikon is on a strong ground. They don’t need my bias. Anyone bashing Nikon aren’t taken seriously anymore. So the role of a ‘Nikon defender’ is invalid now. I would definitely highlight things that Nikon do right because they do so much right. But the tone, if you notice has changed and will continue to do so

Sony is great. The A7IV is a super super camera

Then get the sony to nikon adapter. Yes, they exist.

@@seemyworld1 i thought of that but do I really what to have an adapter on all the time, compromising the weather sealing & mount integrity…

Will try to do that

Z6 iii

Thanks for your comment

@@FramesTM You you actually check your math and get it right. Maybe ask a friend who passed the JEE?

@UnconventionalReasoning agree with the facts. Disagree with the rest thanks

Why do you want 1.4? 1.8 S prime lens from Nikon are as great as L lens from canon or 1.4 from sony…and 1.4 vs 1.8 are very similar in term of bokeh

Hey ya that’s a good idea

Thank you Bijan!

Haha get the Nikon or the Lumix

Yeah, it’s the end of the world🙄

@@peterenevoldsen7199 why r u gay?

@@peterenevoldsen7199 no one said it was creep

Singh, the dr of Sony is not better. It has noise reduction and colour shift. The datarate of 4K 24 raw normal quality is equal to Sony XAVC si. It’s all there in he video. But I’m not your dad. Spend the money where you want to. Z6III has 96% of sensor coverage. And Ji nahi, Sony does not have 729 af points. Nikon doesn’t have 300 af points. Those are only SELECTABLE points for autofocus single. In mirrorless cameras af happens on sensor on every pixel with thousands of micro lenses. It’s not as simple as you think. Buy what you are biased for. That’s it.

Where do u get those Nikon stats, ur ass 😂. There is no way u compared the colors of the sony to a nikon and saying the nikom has 75% coverage when even the original z6 had 95%. Also the Nikon lenses are better than Sonys iver a mile so it doesnt matter than sony has more

Nikon says it’s 95% coverage. You’re comparing video with noise reduction to raw which has no noise reduction. What a nonsensical post.

Ur a goof just because tboth camera have close to the same auto focus coverage doesnt mean sony more accurate or faster ..its been proven that the z63 is more accurate...have u even ever used raw in post ..u should know having the ability to change exposure in video like u do in stills is leagues better then some baked in compressed 10 bit log on.the sony 😂😂

And Nikon Just caught up to Sony’s 2018 release Sony a7iii in autofocus 😂. Nikon fanboys hate Facts so sad. 😅

Concerning dynamic range in video, the a7iv is the best of sony mirrorless camera, better than the a7siii, the new a7rv and the new a9iii…so this is not a « problem » to compare it with the z6iii Concerning photo’s dynamic range, same…I don’t think that the a7v will have more DR than a7iv You will never see internal raw on the a7v…so the z6iii will have the advantage for that In video, I don’t think that the a7v will offer something revolutionary, compared to the a7iv, perhaps 4k60 without crop but no more AF yes maybe we will need to wait the new a7v…but I don’t think that the difference will be significant

@@peterra2532 you don’t “think” you are going off your feelings. Not Facts. But it’s okay you can be a Nikon shooter it’s okay no problem. Just know Canon Sony and Panasonic have better autofocus dynamic range and value over Nikon cameras. But you can choose which ever just know those are far superior leading the camera industry atm.

@@alphaandomega2709 Currently I own a z8 and a lumix s5iix...in the past I have worked with the a7iv, a7siii, fuji xh2s and the r6mkii. In photos, the z6iii actually has less good DR than Sony, Lumix and Canon. In video it's different, the canon is limited with the c-log 3, the n-log is better, then above you have the s-log 3 and especially the v-log (the best)…but thanks to the n -raw Nikon takes the advantage, the quality of your images will be better than the competition which only offers 10bits. For AF, the z8 is similar to Sony and Canon, the lumix s5iix and especially the xh2s seem inferior to me.

@alphaandomega2709: I think Nikon creators and way more skilled than the Sony canon Lumix creators like you. They never had to change and they make money despite their inferior gear.

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@@FramesTM couple of big RU-vid influencers have made videos about this. I personally have not been to the Nikon site yet too confirm.

New camera is not always better than old camera.

At the time A7iv and Z6iii were both $2500. It's fair to compare two equal priced cameras, if Sony thought the camera was outdated they would have discounted it like they are now

Agreed

Ok

or use macbook, its run well to handle prores code.. even with just intel version

@@okiwidianto8582 all computers, laptop will suffer.....just with denoise or some text or effect it will slow down the process. and by the way. 6k? to watch most video s on the mobile screen?

I am sorry it caused your hurt.

@@FramesTM hahaha you're right

A7iv and Z6iii were both $2500 in the USA when this video was released

Every Nikon lens is better than every Sony lens. In third party, except Sigma all other brands are available

Hahaha

Where are the f1.2 primes on Sony? Where are the superlight super telephotos on Sony? Where are the built in teleconverter lenses on Sony? After 10+ years. The biggest problem of Sony isn’t the brand. It’s the blind unintelligent partisan culture its users have.

Best 24-70 2.8 ever made? Best 50 1.8? Best 24-120 as well as 180-600, Plena, super light telephoto lenses for the pros? You should turn on your monitor, or open your eyes.

@@thephenom6327 I’d be happy to give you my opinions on those but what are your selection criteria for “Best”..?

@@bradl2636 The 24-70 2.8 is absolutely sharp even at 2.8, even at 24, even in the corner of the frame, which is unthinkable for any other similar zoom lens. The 50 1.8 is a Sony Zeiss 55 1.8 at max and that says it all I highly recommend working with them at least once, if you don't have the opportunity, go to digital picture and just compare z 24-70 2.8 vs rf or e and you will realize that if you want to invest in native and expensive lenses, the canon and sony options are not even close.

Why? Does the viewer not see colour when you shoot in log? You send them a note saying “say ignore the colours!”

Cf express card is more robust than 2 sd cards on the same camera…

The a7IV is no longer a contender in the price bracket. It is way behind the competition. The canon r1, nikon z6iii and lumix s5iix are way better for the price.

Haha

@@peterra2532 cf express overheats and fails like all cards. if you do pro video shooting and trust a single slot camera good luck.

@@peterra2532 LOL. Sure it is. NOT.

Do what you like. Including sounding stupid.

Thank you!!

That's a long way 🤣

What should it be compared to from Sony?

@@FramesTM Currently not any model at the moment. Maybe wait for the new one.

@XDR2201 NO! At this point people deciding between the two should know what they provide. When Sony launches a new one, I will surely review that

I think it's fair comparison camera they don't change that fast we should think how much you will pay,

Why shouldn't they be compared if they cost the same?