Nikon Z7 Real World Review (vs D850 vs Sony a7R III vs Canon EOS R) 

Jared Polin Using That Fro Pack as I type. I love that Kensington with grain 🔥

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Hey brother Jared, I have been shooting with a Canon t3i and kit lenses for 7 years now. I have no glass of any kind. So I know the Canon workflow. I am ready to upgrade and wanted to ask what should I go with? Maybe mirrorless at this point? I shoot mostly landscapes, concerts, scenery, different outdoor events. I'm looking at the Z7, EOS R, Nikon D850, the Canon 5D Mark IV, and the 6D Mark II for vlogging. What do you suggest? I definitely want to make sure I get something great for my hard earned money. Maybe we can meet up sometime if and when you come to Central Florida. 🤘

boooo, grain booo lol.

I can tell by your video that you want her ass to be slapping on your lap. Go for it brah.

Saurav Sinha you make great content too.

He's a great presenter and has a fantastic videographer on the team. Killer formula.

@@JjackVideo i fully agree

Completely agree. I sometimes do not enjoy his humour, but this RWR are fantastic. Regarding photography, it is easily one of the best things on RU-vid.

100% agree

José A. Ochoa he’s definitely cheesy at times but there’s no denying Fro knows his stuff and knows how to do a thorough review.

thanks John.

A lot of people haven’t been around that long, and missed a lot of what he used to do. I have his photography tutorial downloaded on my computer from who knows how long ago. He got me into photography. Ya bastard.

Yeah, this was was quite informative (unlike all the "EEWWW, only one card" slot reviews). There are a lot of us who were interested in how the camera actually works in different situations, & this was a detailed review.

Still losing images if one card slot fails.

@@Lon1an not if you take with both at the same time..

@@rdebeer4071 How would you get same image in both cameras?

People took this seriously. Oh my.

The first and second generation of Sony have many many problems with a single slot. Only the third generation is "perfect"

You should check out Photo-Me-Ike's review.

Real world photographer ??!! Hahahahahahahaha... you definitely never seen a skilled photographer's work, to quality this gear's junkie of being real world photographer.

Thank you for pointing that out! That is helpful to me, as a noob.

Will do that too, I'm still hesitate between z7 and z6

Also own a D500 and am looking to get to full frame. Something I haven't seen mentioned but have heard from other photographers I know is that the Nikon EVF is fantastic and about as close/good as you can get to an OVF. I tried the Sony A7R3 in store and hated the viewfinder which really turned me off to mirrorless at the time. I imagine the Z6 will be faster/better focusing - something a D500 owner would appreciate. I've also considered a sidestep to the Fuji XT-3 even though it's crop.

@@timphillips3873 problem of crop is the lens you cannot find the equivalent of FF + it's often more expensive. With Nikon FF you can use sigma art 1.4 for not so expensive

Negativity coming from Sony and fuji people looking at specs, and not using the camera

I own the D500 as well and like you I'm on the fence about purchasing the Z6 or Z7. Did you end up purchasing one? Which did you go with? @@timphillips3873

I have those settings off. Jpeg preview yes

The Sony's provide a jpeg preview as well in camera, but you can change the EVF to not show applied settings basically making it an digital optical viewfinder somewhat. Not sure if that's what you're talking about in this situation Ike. Hope you're well man and I'll see you in the Oastler streams..

Photo-Me-Ike The EVF has a setting to brighten the monitor when shooting in low light. It can be turned off for seeing the actual exposure.

This applies to sony as well. I have an a7riii and even on my a6000. Images are brighter in EVF and live view screen because it is showing you the camera's "corrected" jpeg preview (not the flatter raw file). The whole histogram thing wouldn't have helped as the entire image in the concert setting was pitch black with her only lit up. That would automatically push the entire histogram to the left.

One advantage of Nikon and Sony cameras is the nearly ISO invariant sensor. There are even shooters who never high ISO, because pushing the photos in post generally yields a cleaner image than exposing "correctly." I do that for most night photos. Though the Z7 can show banding in certain conditions, (mostly a strong light source on the right of the image) it can be easily be pushed four stops with no degradation of quality, so an underexposed NEF file is no big deal. blog.kasson.com/nikon-z6-7/nikon-z7-banding-constancy/ (JimK of Dpreview forum fame) BTW, the same source noticed that the histogram reads low than the actual settings in low light. Apparently, the Sony does, too, though at lower light levels still.

That doesn’t work for evf. There’s no touch and drag

We try hard to actually bring real reviews.

The Z6 probably will be better for video.

My vote goes to the Z6. The extra megapixels aren't worth the money for me. Also I think the Z6 doesn't bin pixels when shooting FX video, which would be an advantage.

Especially moving up from a D750, and a sweet spot price-wise, too.

@@lustig8312 Yes, no bin pixels on the Z6

The Z6 is the all-rounder, faster, better low light, a bargain, and more videocentric. For images lilkely to be printed large of cropped the Z7 is the D850 of the mirrorless world. I have been on the fence trying to decide on the D850 to add to my D800 kit or head to the Z mount. I borrowed a Z7 with 24-70 and unlike Jared,I was very impressed with that lens. It was actually brighter in the same since at f/4 than my 24-70 2.8 wide open. The most impressive point was zero distortion and the same excellent sharpness in the corners as center wide open. Only a few specialty large format reproduction lenses are able to do that. The Z mount it the reason to pick this over the competition. The construction quality beats the Sony in every way. If the Z6 is built the same, for anyone shooting outdoors or in rough conditions these are the only mirrorless out built at pro quality. For those who shoot burst, not me, the buffer was not large but cleared amazingly fast, about 1 second when I tried just holding the shutter down until it slowed down...in the time it took to lift my finger and press again the buffer was empty again. The AF was considerably better than on my D800 but I never had any problem with any camera with getting focus as long as there was light. But I am not a wildlife or sports shooter. I only had a few missed focus when first trying the camera until I read the manual and for the rest of the week missed none. The AF is much better than I was expecting given the poor reviews by a few RU-vidrs. I have never seen such emotional overreaction to a new camera release. Some of those people will probably feel pretty embarrassed when people realize the reviewers were only seeking clicks and making outrageous statements gets clicks.

so you have 1000 photos, they all come in and have over sharpening, I now have to tweak every photo.

mbickerdike17 nikon traditionally have always had theirs on the bottom of the camera unlike sony & canon

@@stepheneckert4006 correct, I just assume since Mirrorless bodies aren't exactly traditional that they may have or use pins in the battery compartment. If there aren't then there will be no buttons, just power. Thanks!

James Edits Things if you do Photos and videos and do not have a second body to pair with the Z6 then def get the z7

suli6969 lol ! Horizontical

BubuSnow93 agreed !

35mm for astro?

I've never noticed the CA in my sigma 35mm f1.4 art

@@TheChindoboi ye I've checked and it's actually not that bad, astigmatism however is definitely way more present than in the new Nikon @​ John Smith yep, 35mm is a great focal lenght for astro. You can do single shot that are more detailed than a wider angle lens, you can do panoramas that will be better than wider angle lenses because a 35mm can capture more light or you can use it with a star tracker.

Yeah, I too wasn't sure about: "the 35 1.8 is great, but maybe not amazing in feel, so get the Sigma". Why? Why would one pass on a great native lens and get a Sigma to use with an adapter?

Z 7 no such thing as ZED 7

Tyson Wright 'the D810 is the best stills camera on the market' is a pretty big call. I shoot sports and birds on flight on a 5D4 + 100-400mm Lii + 1.4x iii and there isnt a better combo for my style of shooting. Focus mate - if you dont nail focus your shot is toast. Btw, I attend a lot of motor sports events, and my setup seems to be the standard @ these events atm.

@@nordic5490 D850 is the best one.

mr Sony lover, nope. Canons DPAF is the industry leading video AF and works great on the EOSR, the 6D2, the M50, 80D, 5D4 and more. Try harder mate.

ruffdraft with the Sony a7 III

Scott Miller yup all new sensor according to nikon

It's probably a slight modification of the D850 sensor, nothing substantial.

It's weird because the specs are basically identical, just a bit worse than the D850 because of the banding issues. My guess is that they just picked the 850 sensor and modified it to allow PDAF, and that would also explain why there is banding, probably due to read noise differences caused by the different specs needed for AF

It is the same sensor, just that no camera company wants to admit that they are reusing parts.