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Nikya of the Old Ways Commander Deck Tech 

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Nykia of the Old Ways has a pretty significant restriction on the commander ... but, but, but ... that MANA! I'm all in.
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@JohnDoe-mv9kp
@JohnDoe-mv9kp 5 лет назад
hahaha "Molder Slug : Fortunately for it, Mirrodin is a plane without salt" On the contrary ! artifacts lands, skullclamp, affinity and disciple of the vault harvested one of the biggest among of salt! (among players, but still!)
@classymofo1059
@classymofo1059 5 лет назад
I saw a lot of commander reviews for this card and pretty much everyone said (a big smorc creatures-only deck wont work, u need noncreature spells, etc.etc.) I don't think people realize the effects. "You cant cast noncreature spells" and "double your mana"(essentially). This DOESN'T MEAN you can ONLY SPEND your mana on CREATURES. you can use your mana on activated abilities of permanents that are already in play. Land abilities, artifact abilities, you name it. People just look at the card and say (double your mana but only for creatures? Trash.) I'm so excited for this deck, looking forward to it alot
@teradul2480
@teradul2480 5 лет назад
Dude, Hatchery Spider can puts a green permanent on the battlefield - that means Zendikar Ressurgent, Garruk, or Domri being put onto the battlefield while Nikya is on the battlefield.
@NicolasRodrigues-n4u
@NicolasRodrigues-n4u 5 лет назад
Also,genesis hydra
@tonionitoklan4872
@tonionitoklan4872 5 лет назад
You do need creatures in the graveyard though
@theunicornsrock
@theunicornsrock 5 лет назад
@@tonionitoklan4872 Yeah, but if all you do is play creatures and swing with creatures something will die eventually. Not to mention the couple of cycle abilities in the deck
@tonionitoklan4872
@tonionitoklan4872 5 лет назад
Jeremy Nakai true, it will sometimes be good, but their may be times when it’s a dead card in your hand because there’s only 2-3 creatures in your graveyard. Late game when there’s more it could be good
@theunicornsrock
@theunicornsrock 5 лет назад
@@tonionitoklan4872 Fair point
@OvAeons
@OvAeons 5 лет назад
Audio is a little a head of the video me thinks, talking about cards gets really misaligned at the end, also wrong name in title and description XD Y and I are swappeded
@azerim2039
@azerim2039 5 лет назад
Yup, audio out of sync
@noxouphe4370
@noxouphe4370 5 лет назад
I thought that was his new video format.
@simonbirrer958
@simonbirrer958 5 лет назад
This isn't usually this way? My first video on this channel and I thought this was his style, which would be horrible
@OvAeons
@OvAeons 5 лет назад
@@simonbirrer958 i have watched many techs and other videos, and yeah this is the only one where the audio was not matched with the visual
@robinmarks4771
@robinmarks4771 5 лет назад
I was feeling fairly meh about all the legendaries in Ravnica Allegiance, but your enthusiasm, DJ, has me hella stoked to build a Nikya Anti-Civ deck now. Thanks for your posi energy.
@matterhorn731
@matterhorn731 5 лет назад
No love for Teysa "Deathharmonicon" Karlov? :P
@RaginKavu
@RaginKavu 5 лет назад
What about Prowling Serpopard? With that many creatures, being able to cast them without the fear of a counter is really good!
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 5 лет назад
That one is really dependant on your playgroup. It's great in my playgroup because a couple of my friends play lots of counterspells!
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 5 лет назад
@Sean Cole Yeah on top of preventing your creature spells from being countered. That's one of the best new uncommons for commander that's been printed in a while! Because my play group plays lots of counter spells and I'm usually the target for them that card alone makes me want to play more commanders with red and green.
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 5 лет назад
@Sean Cole Yes that too. You make a good point. At the very least It's a better Fires of Yavimaya as long as It's not in a token deck.
@fabianbock5691
@fabianbock5691 5 лет назад
Very interesting deck tech! I think a great addition to this deck would be Yeva, Nature's Herald. She gives your green creatures flash which helps a lot avoiding sorcery board wipes and stuff.
@Daigo1228
@Daigo1228 5 лет назад
Love it! Thanks, DJ for the help. You great ideas for the deck
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 5 лет назад
I like how this deck is like the sasaya deck you created last time but more consistent. Gotta love them big manas.
@chesra9515
@chesra9515 5 лет назад
I'm not a regular viewer but thank you for this deck tech. I have been looking for a exciting new Gruul commander for 2 or 3 years now. I was initially disappointed with Nykia but your video really inspired me to make this deck and it might be the one I have been looking for. Gruul creature based control and big smack down. Thanks again.
@jacquesdespadas
@jacquesdespadas 5 лет назад
Nikya is one of the two legendaries in RNA that I'm most excited about. Her "downside" really isn't. A lot of people espouse the theory that you want as many effects on creatures as possible anyway. And you can use that "downside" as camouflage. She won't always be on the battlefield, and with sacs and Temur Sabertooth (as mentioned by another) you could engineer her removal, float a ton of mana, and pull off something big that no one expects. I think she wants Ramunap Excavator, Wayward Swordtooth, Mina and Denn, and maybe Ghirapur Orrery and a slightly elevated land count and/or lots of fetches. Landfall seems like a good subtheme. :D The last non-creature card I would recommend is Sunbird's Invocation. Nikya will allow a higher than average curve, which means cycling through you deck fast. But even a strict creatures-only build will be so much fun. I love it! 🤣
@garrettmartin4589
@garrettmartin4589 5 лет назад
Missed your voice DJ!!! Always love your deck techs!!! Planning on a fun build for this deck, you gave me great ideas!!!
@koblfricker278
@koblfricker278 5 лет назад
BLESS!!!! Been meaning to build this as soon as she was announced!
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 5 лет назад
"Bloop bloop bloop bloop; make a copy."
@SubSonicEctomorph
@SubSonicEctomorph 5 лет назад
I’m SO excited to build her!! Thanx for this tech
@Tobylovesmusick
@Tobylovesmusick 5 лет назад
I have a Surrak deck based on using only creatures as spells. She was an auto include. You gave me more thoughts too, thanks!!
@warrioraidan
@warrioraidan 5 лет назад
Your audio sync is delayed. Lagging for about 3 to 5 seconds.
@clauderodrigue6461
@clauderodrigue6461 5 лет назад
I’ve been waiting my whole life to hear dj say let’s smash
@oateater5044
@oateater5044 5 лет назад
I've gotten to the point where I thumbs up these b4 even watching. Always great decks, with great synergies.
@Danem2186
@Danem2186 5 лет назад
Looks fun! I was thinking about putting this in a Surrak, Dragonclaw deck, but you may have changed my mind!
@iisaka_station
@iisaka_station 5 лет назад
Thanks for this deck tech, DJ
@yugiohinvasion5951
@yugiohinvasion5951 5 лет назад
I love this awesome gruul smash up. If you were to do another gruul deck tech I would love if you did rosheen meanderer (aka X marks the spot).
@leviv168
@leviv168 5 лет назад
I love all the hydras being mentioned. They arent in enough decks and theyre my favorite type 😍
@joshuac952
@joshuac952 5 лет назад
Thank you i pulled a promo Nykia at my prerelease and i was looking for a deck list for her
@ceulgai2817
@ceulgai2817 5 лет назад
I've designed a +1/+1 counters Animar and an Oops All Creatures Animar this winter. The number of overlapping cards is reassuring. Also, the Green Divination is Citanul Woodreaders ;)
@tylerf1636
@tylerf1636 4 года назад
Planar bridge getting whatever u want onto the battle field and nyx bloom ancient tripping all permanents being tapped for mana would be great additions to this deck and also archetype of endurance giving all of ur creatures hexproof and taking it away from your opponents locus of mana would also be amazing with seedborn muse tap everything on everyones end step and just build a butt load of mana to use before ur next turn comes around
@brandoncreek5709
@brandoncreek5709 5 лет назад
Silklash Spider is also a great mana sink, even though its ability only affects creatures with flying. Can really mess with some decks that rely on a bunch of fliers to do damage, and can be great answers to big flying threats with huge power since you'll have so much mana.
@matterhorn731
@matterhorn731 5 лет назад
Shefet Monitor seems like it could be a good include in this deck, as it cycles for 3G to also tutor out an untapped basic or desert. So with Nidya, it kind of cycles for just 2, and you can use it to tutor out a utility desert like Scavenger Grounds or Endless Sands (which could also temporarily get rid of Nikya if you need to cast noncreature spells). And it's also a 6/5 like Krosan Tusker.
@jellosapiens7261
@jellosapiens7261 5 лет назад
Speaking of Zhur-Taa Druid, there was a janky combo in RTR-Theros standard where you'd put a triton tactics under an Elite Arcanist, tap the Druid for mana to activate the Arcanist and ping them, untap both with the tactics, and repeat until they're dead.
@Jeffxm003
@Jeffxm003 5 лет назад
Hell yeah DJ I saw this card and had the same reaction. This should be fun. Ever heard of Moonveil Dragon?
@crovax1375
@crovax1375 5 лет назад
Hellkite Charger would be great mana sink for this deck. And Flamewave Invoker would be really deadly in this deck, especially if Seedborn Muse is in play too
@Kiltzombie
@Kiltzombie 5 лет назад
My Karador is legit all creatures. It has become my favorite deck and I'm pretty proud of it.
@magicalmusketeershadow1153
@magicalmusketeershadow1153 5 лет назад
would you want to play a Vorinclex in the deck for the double mana and stoping opponent from untapping lands
@caseyrichter6193
@caseyrichter6193 5 лет назад
Love this! Puts new flavor on gruul.
@generalawesome7279
@generalawesome7279 5 лет назад
Please do teysa karlov
@zabadoo2898
@zabadoo2898 5 лет назад
so going to make this deck.
@nonlinear3084
@nonlinear3084 5 лет назад
Is there any "exile till end of turn" red or green creatures to cheat te commander
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 5 лет назад
Here are some card suggestions. Magus of the Candelabra lets you double your mana with your commander. Experimental Frenzy since you empty your hand fast and have lots of mana, allowing you to play multiple spells a turn. The creatures that lets you play extra lands per turn helps when you already played your land for turn and have a land on top. Temur Sabertooth for easy protection for your creatures.
@FabioKoala444
@FabioKoala444 5 лет назад
Very cool deck!!!
@TheMrBigShot96
@TheMrBigShot96 5 лет назад
What about omnath locus of mana to help hold up some green? Probably wouldnt hurt to add locus of rage as well to put up some blockers.
@pdahl615
@pdahl615 5 лет назад
I built the budget Ruric Thar deck and started upgrading it. I wanted to lean into all creatures like this deck and creature control, but it felt like I was playing 60 vindicates and not doing much to finish then off. I just want 5 more Ruric Thars ... Maybe I should give this a go while I'm waiting...
@addambarcelos
@addambarcelos 5 лет назад
Curiously I have a mina and denn deck here. Ramping is fun xD
@edwardsmall6916
@edwardsmall6916 5 лет назад
Nice deck. I studied your budget Ruric Thar deck and built a not so budget version. I might try this guy at the helm with a few tweaks.
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 5 лет назад
Don’t forget Kiki and zealous combo. And Kamahl is an excellent mana dump and board wipe enemies Lands when they wrath for the lols
@dtopa7524
@dtopa7524 5 лет назад
Moonveil Dragon for SUPER firebreathing! and maybe this is finally a home for Whisperwood Elemental.
@KnowNoFear313
@KnowNoFear313 5 лет назад
In a heavy creature based deck, it might be a good idea to have some recursion, in addition to Genesis. Perhaps you could try Eternal Witne- *gunshots*
@ssj4tankman637
@ssj4tankman637 5 лет назад
Feldon of the 3rd path synergizes awesomely with magus of the wheel
@Louiscypher93
@Louiscypher93 5 лет назад
What about apocalypse hydra? If you pay 7 or more mana it enters with double the number of plus 1 counters on it. You can then sink mana into it again to remove plus 1 counters to deal damage.
@insanitygaming3027
@insanitygaming3027 5 лет назад
Lurking predators be crazy lol
@jamesschnurr8146
@jamesschnurr8146 5 лет назад
So one method of ramp you didn't mention is land untappers. Krosan Restorer does work in my Nikya deck. Threshold is easy to hit, and oncenyoy do, it effectively ranps you 6 Mana a turn
@vincevigil8933
@vincevigil8933 5 лет назад
another great video my friend
@michaellussier1142
@michaellussier1142 5 лет назад
You say downside I say just gotta be creative with your building and smart with creature etb/activated abilities/die triggers
@Onbutteredtoast
@Onbutteredtoast 5 лет назад
Love vexing shusher in the deck
@oberondargos5465
@oberondargos5465 5 лет назад
Oh ya... We Smashing!
@kresselhousman743
@kresselhousman743 5 лет назад
all you need is any bounce or blink effect! 1)tap all your mana (for double) 2)cast non-creature spells (in the same main phase :-/ ) 3)replay your commander this still works with creature ETB effects
@nonlinear3084
@nonlinear3084 5 лет назад
Hydras in general would be good
@EvilDeath66X
@EvilDeath66X 5 лет назад
I am curious why you opted against Myojin of the Life's Web and Patron of the Orochi?
@Suplexmaschine
@Suplexmaschine 2 года назад
I'm playing THIS deck TODAY - any changes I have to do? (Deck was last updated 2019) thx
@beyblade9048
@beyblade9048 5 лет назад
An interesting card that could be really good in this deck is Kumano, Master Yamabushi. No one plays him and he might surprise a few players.
@firefist906
@firefist906 5 лет назад
im currently thinking about a new commander deck, and i have these options: sydri, nykia, xenagos or liliana, heretical healer - i really want to spend some money, so i cant build all of them what do you think? what should i build? i like nykia and xenagos, but cant decide which one to choose (gruul is my favourite guild and R/G my favourite color combination overall)
@andrewcullen2527
@andrewcullen2527 5 лет назад
Personally Nykia is better in my eyes, i prefer xenagos in the 99 because with some commanders you can just one shot people with xenagos. Plus i don't like how much extra removal xenagos opens himself to being an enchantment, sure he is indestructible but commander has a lot of exile so i dunno if it really means as much
@zabadoo2898
@zabadoo2898 5 лет назад
has anyone made a more budget version of this deck
@belugawhale8128
@belugawhale8128 5 лет назад
You should do a deck tech for Haunt of the Hightower (buy a box promo).
@KBgamer2010
@KBgamer2010 5 лет назад
Dude, DJ, here is something fun to add for Nikya here...Helm of the host? each combat, make more mana doublers? and hell add Aggravated Assault...basically now you have infinite Nikyas and infinite combats Also, Do Teysa Next if you don't mind
@Station9.75
@Station9.75 5 лет назад
They’re noncreatures...
@tmakalpha1
@tmakalpha1 5 лет назад
@@Station9.75 can consider Godo to cheat in equipment. Helm goes infinite with Godo, and Temur Sabertooth can bounce Godo for more fun stuff
@wolfie766
@wolfie766 5 лет назад
Whats a gruul deck without Thromok, but Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, and dragon broodmother would be awesome to include to.
@LxZero13010
@LxZero13010 5 лет назад
Hey how do I unlock your Lifelinker background?
@imasiontist653
@imasiontist653 5 лет назад
You have to do teysa next please!
@tetrismaster9227
@tetrismaster9227 5 лет назад
Even tho it is an enchantment I really di think lurking predators has a home in this deck easy but I'd like to hear what you think since you're the one who made the deck
@crynt1
@crynt1 5 лет назад
I like the idea of using bazar trader to make a instant and sorcery deck take control of my commander lol
@erickvinicius3443
@erickvinicius3443 5 лет назад
Temur Sabertooth can bounce Nikya back to your hand whenever you need to cast a noncreature spell
@chaotic3380
@chaotic3380 5 лет назад
Omnath, locus of mana seems pretty good here
@michaelsomething8881
@michaelsomething8881 5 лет назад
The audio desync is real
@jdlemon2217
@jdlemon2217 11 месяцев назад
Silverback Elder would be great in this
@friedpinnapple
@friedpinnapple 5 лет назад
Why have you passed on the opportunity to preview the deck you made for game knights? Still looking forward to seeing it in action and i hope you included an elenda the dusk rose.
@biggingergiant4435
@biggingergiant4435 5 лет назад
What do people think of zhur taa achient as a card?
@leraidnrop9927
@leraidnrop9927 5 лет назад
Kamahl Fist of Krosa needs to be in this deck
@ant_tha_kid8717
@ant_tha_kid8717 5 лет назад
Which set is avatar of growth from?
@noxouphe4370
@noxouphe4370 5 лет назад
Game nights
@insanitygaming3027
@insanitygaming3027 5 лет назад
Dude this deck screams play Ulasht n Thromos in the same deck lol
@vinrod1802
@vinrod1802 5 лет назад
Hey, I'm new to commander and I've been looking at a few creatures to build my first deck upon, could you do a video on Marath, Will of the Wild? I feel it's an underrated commander
@jacquesdespadas
@jacquesdespadas 5 лет назад
Marath is still one of my too two favorite edh generals. You can play aggressively or controlling, tribal beasts, tribal elementals, +1/+1 counters, "good stuff", Enchantress, etc. His versatility might be a challenge for this style of deck tech video, but yeah it would be interesting to see. :). Until then, pick a main theme, a handful (emphasis on the"full") of ramp, 4-5 wraths, all the card draw options you can find, and have fun! :)
@faznishib1988
@faznishib1988 5 лет назад
Yo DJ, Nikya isn't in your decklist bruh. Is there a reason for Thuric being the commander I'm too noob to understand?
@exsimon
@exsimon 5 лет назад
RESOOOOLVE ❤
@Danny123Rios
@Danny123Rios 5 лет назад
Double your mana in the command zone?
@bastiwa2381
@bastiwa2381 5 лет назад
Nope, just when she's on the battlefield. She has no eminence ability
@cteal2018
@cteal2018 5 лет назад
Little off topic but need to settle an argument: Building a Boros deck (white/red)...is blind obedience legal even if it has an orzoh mana cost activation?
@johannpohland2826
@johannpohland2826 5 лет назад
Temur sabertooth, cloudstone curio
@lanetanner8938
@lanetanner8938 5 лет назад
Was looking at this commander and was like "etb/kicker nykia would be awsome"
@bennguyen4664
@bennguyen4664 5 лет назад
If DJ gets the Shaman of Forgotten Way to trigger off successfully Jimmy is probably going to tilt because he tried to go with that tactic once and it backfired on him
@robertcotrell9810
@robertcotrell9810 5 лет назад
Thantis please!
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 лет назад
you have the wrong commander in the deck list, Rhuric Thar is the commander there. I haven't counted the other cards, there might be 98, in which case its alright.
@cobra_commander2255
@cobra_commander2255 5 лет назад
Bazaar Trader + Homeward Path is a beautiful combo for this deck. Lock down those nasty control players.
@andrewsowl8696
@andrewsowl8696 5 лет назад
Moltensteel Dragon? Helkite Dragon? Maybe?
@bradamanteknightofmemes680
@bradamanteknightofmemes680 5 лет назад
pls make judith edh!!!
@mattpieroni94
@mattpieroni94 5 лет назад
Why Is the commender night's deck video down? Whatever, money down on u! Go DJ!
@seasnek7024
@seasnek7024 5 лет назад
Could just add some werewolves as they love you only casting single spells per turn and Nikya ramps to them
@andrewlloyd808
@andrewlloyd808 5 лет назад
Nek Minit control player drops Humility...
@superfunk2066
@superfunk2066 5 лет назад
98 permanents, primal surge tap out for max value-> bounce/destroy nykia-> cast primal surge-> flip deck on the field-> win by kiki/zealous or some other degenerate combo.
@erikchupela7074
@erikchupela7074 5 лет назад
Is this the list on #gameknights?
@ChillyJack
@ChillyJack 5 лет назад
My first thought was Bazaar Trader for messing with opponents in a spell based deck.
@tmakalpha1
@tmakalpha1 5 лет назад
Combat trick wise, would suggest the Bloodrush creatures from Gatecrash. Rubblehulk can one shot somebody with your commander sometimes. gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?text=+%5Bbloodrush%5D
@illbean1337
@illbean1337 5 лет назад
Sweet vid, but what about the old Vorinclex and craterhoof? Always gotta bring the ol' craterhoof ;)
@dragullongblackfang8073
@dragullongblackfang8073 5 лет назад
I miss some protection but that it just me and dont forgot to add vhorinclex just to be mean and the father of mean card urubrask why is he mean well he taps all their creature on the turn they good summon and then basically it gives your creature haste which mean your opponent its lock down from attacking and then well smash then after you use shaman of the forgotten ways and kil the shit out of them
@bobbyfasciano4137
@bobbyfasciano4137 5 лет назад
I think I’m just going to put Primal Surge in and no other noncreature spells...
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 5 лет назад
Bobby Fasciano Yeah just have it in your hand the whole game and then when they board wipe you go “Fool you activated my trap card, I wanted you to kill my commander”
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