Nine plays Sanctuary Shattered Sun Survival Pre Alpha 

Seeing the move orders get immediately calculated as routes for each unit as well as their target positions is magical! By far the most impressive feature of this game. Can't wait!

lt looks very optimized so far. This is an extraordinary job. :) I love it and every FAF player is too :) Also, Gyle will be pleased.

An option to adjust the size of the icons might be something to think about at some point.

I can tell I'll be addicted to this as I am FAF. The quality life improvements are great.

Looks very familiar, love it

I honestly wasn't sure if I was going to play this over FaF, but seeing how well they kept true to the vision of being a spiritual successor has me really wanting to play now.

Absolutely cannot wait. Would be cool if Shattered Sun take a page out of Beyond All Reason on the control scheme

Nice to see a whole playthrough! Hope the wreckages still fall. Like the select and drag army formation!

This looks awesome. Love the way you can arrange the units. Cool game mode.

little things like: upgradeable extractors, storage banks, attack-move engineers defaults to reclaim, selecting holograms, simplified assist, and the way you can spread your units around with the click and drag formation. this game really was made by fans of the genre, i love where this is going, looks very comfy and i cant wait to see more videos as the game progresses! Id love to see a "global icon scale" added, so people with high resolution monitors can have the icons smaller so they dont overlap as much. A PATROL function along the "spread" formation would also be super convenient, maybe by pressing P before doing the spread formation. IMPORTANT FEEDBACK PLEASE READ: Im curious if you will enable us to draw DYNAMIC lines with our formation? perhaps by holding a modifier button like CTRL/ALT/SHIFT? Id love to be able to select all my units, and draw an oval/triangle around my base, and they just spread around it. If you can make them ***PATROL that "organic line"*** you draw around the base or objective; I really think a TECH DEMO/TRAILER of a feature like this would set this game apart from other games in the genre... Micro is one of the hardest parts of RTS games, but if you can empower players to have armies dynamically moving around along their dynamic lines, easily and accessibly, it will create a huge point of satisfaction. This WILL NOT take away from the necessity of high level micro in pro-play, but it will add some level of autonomy which ***makes your army feel ALIVE, compared to the static icons of the rest of your base.*** Ive always found "patrol" mechanics extremely powerful, but also very primitive in 99% of RTS games (such as selecting a start and a finish line, and everything in between is at the mercy of the pathfidinging and other jank), ***if you can create something new here, it will add YET ANOTHER way you can set yourself apart from the rest (innovatively speaking).*** DYNAMIC LINES WITH PATROL ENABLED FURTHER EXPLANATION (if needed): If you just select your army and draw an organic line around your base, and your army just comes alive and patrols along the route, it would be very satisfying to watch and use. The patrol aspect would probably be pretty easy (conceptually), as you would just have an inner and outer route, and as they got to the end of the line on the outer route, they would loop around onto the inner route. Once the units are interrupted by enemy aggro, they can abandon their route and engage in combat until the enemy is dead, then return to their dynamic-shaped patrol line. LIKE ANTS FOLLOWING THE TRAIL TO THE FOOD EXCEPT IT LOOPS AROUND ALONG THE SAME LINE! (((Based on how many units are selected compared to the total distance of the line, these "inner and outer routes" could be 2 units wide, or even thicker, very similar to the tech you are currently, just using organic lines instead of forced straight lines. You may run into the phenomenon of the "shorter" inner routes needing the units to move slower compared to the outer routes just like how OLYMPIC *TRACK AND FIELD* RACING LOOPS HAVE DIFFERENT STARTING POINTS due to this, which may require a bit of problem solving on your part, but if you made it this far already it will be no issue.)))

This game really does look like a blast from the past, and in a good way.

The only issue I have with this game is... the "tactical" icons of buildings and units are still visible even on a pretty close zoom. Supreme Commander got it better, icons were visible only when player scrolled back a little bit more. That way the immersion is greater and you can look at those spectacular battles. Other than that, it looks neat

One thing I really, really appreciate here is how *big* it feels - this is something that SupCom got right and no other RTS really to the same extent. The slow explosions in particular help this feeling a lot.

waiting a decade for the real "supreme commander 2" was worth it

Looks incredible so far! You guys have nailed the unit movement, command orders, & pathing. It looks like such a huge improvement over the tech limitations from Forged Alliance. No more unit bumper cars 😆, I can't wait!

Amazing work, looking forward to get it first hand

It looks really good. What would be a pain in the ass to add, but would add tremendously to the realism of/identification with the units is to add some small animations to them (like supcom), barrel recoil/body roll when firing, slight body tilt of the units with legs walking. But whatever, its good already.

it looks great ! good luck guys!

In sc2 the unit icon changes size as u zoom in and out, here the Icons looks way big

this looks incredible! I can't wait to see the next step in the large scale RTS game! one minor thing that I would appreciate would be more cursor states like drag cursors and selection and such just to have a cleaner looking ui

Can't wait to get my hands on this in early access 😍

The first time I saw a big unit on wave 20, I thought it was an badass looking mobile artillery unit.

I love how snappy the UI and controls feel. Compared to Supreme Commander and Planetary Annihilation

Оптимизация управления просто шикарная, юниты не зависают, инженеры не мешают друг другу, еще и графикой это все помазали вкусно. Жду недождусь раннего доступа

really start to look good keep up the good work

Really nice work so far, exiting for further developments and great performance. Like others mentioned already: icons too big if you zoom a bit out, you can't see the cool units anymore. Or maybe only display the icons when you zoom out from more far above. In FAF I like the way the commanders are fighting each other, curious how that plays out with the commanders in this game. Happy that this game is not going into the direction of BAR where every base unit is like paper and blows up because of a fart. Oh and one more thing, like the music as well.

This looks amazing

I am so excited!

If we could get a mini-window that just constantly shows close-ups of action, that might help us see more than just the icons on the map :)

GG! lets let the spice begin to flow!!

Lol "We haven't built the pause button. ". You know that's going in the next sprint.

The unit models are shown off in the previews and showcases but it seems like they're hidden behind the strategic icons most of the time even at zoom levels where it should be possible to distinguish one from another.

something about the icons (pop in distance and their size) is not right. Hope, they are adjustable.

So hyped

This game deserves more attention from the RTS community.

Looks great, but I wish the unit visuals would pop-in way earlier when zooming in. In the video the unit icons only went away when zooming-in extremely close. I hope they fix that or at least make it a feature in the settings.

awesome work, guys. can't wait to spend my hard earned money! :)

Love it. Only suggestion although this is nitpicky. I would prefer that the symbols over the units only showed when I am too far to be able to see the individual units. I feel like it is hard to appreciate the huge graphics upgrade when everything is constantly covered by the symbols.

gg

10:20 now that was sexy, formation attack move to reclaim I do wonder about com upgrades though, this game seems more based on supcom than TA, and it would be a shame to just let the com sit around as a slightly better engineer. Personally would have loved to see the commander in this scenario take to the frontlines, both dishing damage, reclaiming wrecks and building PDs while using the time between waves to grab upgrades that change how you engage

OPINION Viewer feedback: The strategic symbols on the units need to disappear a little bit earlier in the zoom. The scale of T3 T4 and T5 units seems off to me. Probably because of FA t4 colossus and other experimental units being like 3 or 4 times bigger than the T3 cybran spider bots or the others. Or sometimes even bigger like the Czar and the Awhassa (probably written 😅 wrong but the stratigic bomber T4 of the Seraphim) Here it seems like the T3 are kinda small and T4 are a litle bit bigger and then T5 is the real jump.

This Supreme Commander mod looks great!

any advantage to creating a long line of energy generators to the north as opposed to building a more local block of energy gens?

If you're going to have engineering stations, make sure to add an option that lets them rebuild structures that have been destroyed within their radius. This way building a defensive line using defense towers and engineering stations can actually be viable and low-maintenance just like the infinite build-queue feature is for units. Otherwise maintaining a massive defensive line made up of defense turrets will become too tedious and energy consuming and you will just resort to factories producing infinite units. This way engineering stations that are within each other's radius can infinitely re-build themselves (given you have the economy) giving you a semi-automatization of your defensive perimeter. It will also allow the maintenance of your base to be a lot smoother resulting in an exact reconstruction of the outline of your base, in case you get attacked and your engineering stations survive. This way each engineering station will be responsible for the maintenance and re-construction of a small sector of your base and will become incredibly valuable assets to protect(especially when your base is massive). They will remember where everything is, unless you personally delete the structure. You should be able to turn them off and on again to save resources. You should be able to see all the things they are going to rebuild by pressing "shift" like in supcom. And maybe if you click on a building they are going to rebuild, make they build that one first. They should be available at T2 and at T3 their radius and build speeds increase. If 2 engineering stations have the same building in their queue, they can build it together. T2 ES(Engineering station) should only be allowed to rebuild T2 structures, but a T3 ES can rebuild T2 structures more quickly. A T2 ES can assist a T3 ES rebuilding the same structure. You should be able to upgrade each ES to an above tech by clicking on it just like metal extractors. That way you don't have to replace them when upgrading your base (would be annoying). One faction should have experimental T4 ES, that surpasses all the other ES of the game. Although it may be too op. If you implement these structures like I stated above, they will become one of the most essential structures in the game, and the game (especially late game) will revolve around them a lot. So maybe one faction having a T4 ES would be too much. But ALL factions should have the ES or they will have a severe disadvantage. I think if you put this above idea in your game, it would greatly distinguish it from it's contemporaries while adding such a big QOL feature as to make it an instant staple when talking about SANCTUARY and other games like it. It would make the game unique and imo would be a big step forward in base management, automation and logistics handling. Your role will no longer be to annoyingly rebuild everything in your base but to "supervise" it kind of like Factorio. This will also mean the ES will maintain crucial relevance for the whole match and be among your most guarded structures. Making it an essential way to cripple a base in the long run. If you make them, make sure to design them to be rather big and easily identifiable. also I think they should be half as big as a factory and maybe half the radius of a T1 defense at T3. They should be quite expensive. Radius should be big. I think a big base should have at least 3 of them to signify its stature and progression. If an ES gets destroyed and rebuilt by another ES, it should not regain its memory in my opinion or getting through bases would become too annoying and slow. Although if you added the option for them to regain the memory of all the structures in its database before being destroyed, I would certainly always enable the option, because I love automation and I'm lazy like that. Id love to see it xD Please consider. :)

Wow! The Illuminate experimental units from Sup Com 2's revamp mod making an appearance was a real suprise! Do you have someone working on this game that also developed that mod? Specifically i am talking about the Chosen's T4 Hover Bot being very similar to the "Andromeda" which made an appearance in that mod! Also the Chosen T4 Bot, the walker one with 6 legs looks super similar to the "Apastron" from the Illuminate experimentals as well which showed up in that mod! They are different from what i remember playing with all those years back so if you do have someone who worked on the revamp mod for Sup Com 2 who used those units as a base to build off of for this game they did a really good job!

Maybe its me but the units feel a bit, how to say, difficult to see the difference between the units on medium zoom level. They are all so dark / small? Is that the right word? Even the big experimental just blend into the terrain.

Is the T1 PG ( the one that shows the sun ) Is that model side or does it actuality remove the surface vertex Plaines? - I would imagine its model side. also the music is awesome good job to how ever did it.

btw when we see some real air combat situation? 🙂

Would love to see a commander? Like in action doing things like killing the enemy lol

The movement line indicator seems too big and cover the laser beam, need to fix that

Any reason your not using structure like shields and put your beam units under it to preserve them and let the shield take the damage?

Готов сделать первый предзаказ в своей жизни, лишь бы игру выпустили со всем что запланировали

When is the release? I want to buy

this looks very good! faf casual player here, hear me - just make it close enough to FAF and take your time to polish it to not blow yours and ours chance at having a finally good enough successor to forged alliance forever, and I'll buy it with no hesitation. Really tired of FAF's oldness and crashes with poor performance. I'm gonna wait as long as you take, just make it fine.

does sanctuary solve faf's issue with the game slowing down after so many units are on the map. will i be able to watch a 500v500 asf fight without going to -10 assuming my hardware can handle it lol

Will there be a story campaign?

no audio?

Wann können es wir endlich apielen???

Boxes with sprays vs Boxes with sprays

Whoa, you guys are using unity? I thought you were using unreal Gameplay looks awesome and soundtrack sounds really cool

it's a purely cosmetic and subjective element, but I find that the lines showing the direction of the units are far too thick. I hope it will be possible to modify their rendering, as it overloads the rendering of the strategic map. Anyway it's really promising.

I am still guess icons too big, we not see the units, only icons

Another gameplay with icons every where !.I want to see units , and animations.Come on !.

Ждём всем селом

Those icons are way too big. Need to be at least half that size.

I can't call it supreme comander 3, because they DEAD, we need new one and IT THIS.

Hmm looks like the faf philosophy in pvp just spam units. Not like it's bad and i am really going to enjoy this game but the speed is a lot faster then supreme commander.

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imagine building a game with good graphics and then hiding all units under 2D icons... Why not just keep playing supcom.

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